1. Has I-69 signage been added to I-55/240/40 in Memphis? Any Photos?
2. Anymore news on the addition of I-69 along the parkways in Kentucky?
Thanks,
Stephen
Edit: Just merged the two topics since they deal with the same stretch of roadway :) -florida
I drove the Brethett/Penneyrile Parkway section of future I-69 in Kentucky back in late November. As of that time the only referencees to I-69 were a few of the larger green "I-69 Corridor" signs. There were not cutouts or trailblazers posted anywhere.
Quote from: ssummers72 on January 20, 2009, 09:36:29 AM
1. Has I-69 signage been added to I-55/240/40 in Memphis? Any Photos?
as of about December 12th, no. I-69 signage stops at the MS/TN state line.
Hello All,
I was wondering if anyone has photographed any of the signage addition of I-69 through Memphis. I know that is was extended along I-55, I-240 and I-40 to TN-300 on the North side of town. I have read about it being added but I have not seen anything official except from Mississippi near Hernando. Could you post the photos or could you send them to me if possible.
Thanks and Take Care,
Stephen
I'd like to see that too, if anyone has it!
we'd definitely like some I-69 from Tennessee... we have Mississippi coverage now, as can be seen here:
www.aaroads.com/shields/thumbs.php?state=MS&search=69 (//www.aaroads.com/shields/thumbs.php?state=MS&search=69)
and if anyone finds a state-named Tenn I-69 shield, that would be the best thing of all... or any other number, because as far as anyone knows, there are zero state-named shields left in Tennessee.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 01, 2009, 03:25:49 PM
and if anyone finds a state-named Tenn I-69 shield, that would be the best thing of all... or any other number, because as far as anyone knows, there are zero state-named shields left in Tennessee.
There used to be a couple of them at I-40's Exit 407 (I think), whatever the exit number is for TN 66 to Sevierville, Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge. They were located on the north side of the interchange, on the county road that leads up to US 25W/US 70, as you approach the interchange heading south.
When I saw them I did not have the opportunity to take a photo, and that was several years ago. so they may or may not be still standing. If anyone's going to Gatlinburg or the Tennessee Smokies region, hop off at the TN 66 exit and go to the north side of the interchange and see if they are there. There were two, standing side-by-side, the typical "East turns right, West goes straight" advance shields you usually see at an interstate exit.
I personally would love to see shots of the I-69 signage in the Memphis area. I want to make sure I made the TN I-69 correct. I mostly made it on info in an e-mail I got from TDOT.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/hb/hwymap.php?mt=g&r=tn.i069 (http://cmap.m-plex.com/hb/hwymap.php?mt=g&r=tn.i069)
Here's some video of I-69 in DeSoto County, Mississippi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ycKRhMbcYQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ycKRhMbcYQ)
Be well,
Bryant
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no I-69 signage in Tennessee.
Quote from: golden eagle on September 02, 2009, 01:32:11 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no I-69 signage in Tennessee.
I was there in January and there was no mention of I-69 until you entered Mississippi.
There is a Future I-69 Corridor sign on I-40 West just south of TN 300, but other than that, there was no other mention of I-69 when I went through Memphis in July.
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Here's Interstate 69 between S.R. 304 and Old S.R. 304, west of Hernando and northeast of Tunica.
Be well,
Bryant
First overhead on SB 55 for I-69
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First SB independent signage
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NB 55 just after you enter TN
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I grew up along I-69 in Indiana. That's crazy seeing it signed in Mississippi. I knew they were expanding it all the way to Mexico; I had no clue segments were actually open. Thanks for the pics!
I really don't think I-69 should be signed at all in the south until the corridor is 90% finished. I mean those "future corridor" signs could be there for many years if not decades. There are future I-69 corridor signs in the Houston,TX area. Maybe construction is coming along faster than I expected it, but is the new I-69 really that close to being a reality? Especially since many of the existing interstates need to be fixed if not completely redone. The most laughable thing about 69 is it took Michigan many years to complete the interstate in the state. I remember as a kid seeing all those Temporary 69 signs along I-96 in the Lansing area and I-69 was not wholly completed until I became an adult- The Potterville and Lansing to Port Huron sections. I'm glad I-69 is coming along down there but I think it is premature for Mississippi to sign 69 with 55. I wonder how long the future I-73/I-74 signage is going to stay posted in North Carolina.
The current south end of I-69 in Mississippi is an at-grade intersection which I thought was strange.
Arkansas has "future corridor" signs along US 65, but no telling how long they will be there.
Quote from: US71 on April 19, 2010, 11:14:07 AM
The current south end of I-69 in Mississippi is an at-grade intersection which I thought was strange.
Arkansas has "future corridor" signs along US 65, but no telling how long they will be there.
Have you ever seen an future I-49 corridor sign in Arkansas? I have not.
Quote from: bugo on April 19, 2010, 11:45:23 AM
Have you ever seen an future I-49 corridor sign in Arkansas? I have not.
Now that you mention it, no, I haven't.
Wow, I hadn't been here in a while. Anyhow, has it been determined where I-69 will exit Mississippi into Arkansas? I've gathered information in the past that it would pass a little north of Greenville, while another path takes it closer to Clarksdale.
That part's been decided for years (close to a decade now). If it ever gets built, it'll cross the river on the "Great River Bridge", to be located at Eutaw Landing (west of Benoit, MS and just a little northeast of Arkansas City, AR).
So I-69 will gobble a part of US 61, eh? The Great River Bridge was decided almost 10 years ago? hmmm... perhaps there's a funding problem.
Quote from: leifvanderwall on April 21, 2010, 01:53:17 PM
So I-69 will gobble a part of US 61, eh? The Great River Bridge was decided almost 10 years ago? hmmm... perhaps there's a funding problem.
We're talking about "The Delta" here. Everything moves slow there.
Quote from: osu-lsu on April 23, 2010, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: leifvanderwall on April 21, 2010, 01:53:17 PM
So I-69 will gobble a part of US 61, eh? The Great River Bridge was decided almost 10 years ago? hmmm... perhaps there's a funding problem.
We're talking about "The Delta" here. Everything moves slow there.
Except the semi trucks ;)
Quote from: US71 on April 23, 2010, 07:25:42 PM
Quote from: osu-lsu on April 23, 2010, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: leifvanderwall on April 21, 2010, 01:53:17 PM
So I-69 will gobble a part of US 61, eh? The Great River Bridge was decided almost 10 years ago? hmmm... perhaps there's a funding problem.
We're talking about "The Delta" here. Everything moves slow there.
Except the semi trucks ;)
And tornado winds. :-(
Although mile markers instead of signage, seemed like a good idea to 'revive" this thread. Due to efforts of one individual, there should soon be mile markers on short section of MS I-69 (DeSoto Times: Sept. 25, 2010):
http://www.desototimes.com/articles/2010/09/25/news/doc4c9d51959e89c689788410.txt
"It took four years and the concern of a constituent but mile-markers along the completed portion of Interstate 69 from U.S. Highway 61 in Tunica to Interstate 55 in Hernando will soon be installed.
That section of Interstate 69 opened with great fanfare in 2006, but since that time there have been no mile-markers along the way to gauge distance or alert authorities if there was an emergency.
Mort Abramson, a retired DeSoto County Sheriff's Department employee, waged more or less a one-man campaign to get mile-markers posted along the heavily traveled route between Memphis and the casinos in Tunica and other points south ....
"I hadn't really thought about it until Mr. Mort Abramson brought it to my attention," Davis said. "I've driven it many times but I just never paid attention to the fact they didn't have them. It's definitely a safety issue."
Davis contacted MDOT officials, who in turn, got the ball rolling.
"When I talked with MDOT, they said it's their intention of putting them up," Davis said.
District 3 Transportation Commissioner Bill Minor assured Davis the mile-markers would be installed soon."
Is Mort a member of this group? Whether he is or not, I nominate him for Roadgeek of the Year: best practical application of roadgeek interest to solving a current, "real world" issue with a major highway.
EDIT - QUESTION
Be honest. Assuming Mort not a member of this forum, had anyone else in this forum noticed absence of I-69 mile markers in Mississippi?
It will be interesting to see if they use I-69 mileage from the Great River Bridge or if they will use MS 304 mileage.
Quote from: codyg1985 on September 26, 2010, 09:56:43 AM
^It will be interesting to see if they use I-66 mileage from the Great River Bridge or if they will use MS 304 mileage.
I think you mean I-69. :P
Way to help out, admin...
Quote from: Grzrd on September 26, 2010, 12:32:06 AM
EDIT - QUESTION
Be honest. Assuming Mort not a member of this forum, had anyone else in this forum noticed absence of I-69 mile markers in Mississippi?
Yup, the only indication of how far you have traveled are the mileage signs.
I the only I-69 signs I saw in Memphis were the "future corridor" signs on I-55 south of I-240...that was back on the Memorial Day weekend.
Quote from: codyg1985 on September 26, 2010, 09:56:43 AM
It will be interesting to see if they use I-69 mileage from the Great River Bridge or if they will use MS 304 mileage.
Looks like they can now use I-69 mileage with confidence:
"Area leaders see the Federal Highway Administration's Record of Decision that will bring the North Mississippi sector of Interstate 69 around Clarksdale as the kind of economic news they had been seeking for years ....
crews from the Mississippi Department of Transportation can now "put up signs that indicate future I-69."
The FHA decision officially validated the construction of a 120-mile multi-lane divided interstate highway in a southwest-northeast direction from south of Benoit near Mississippi Highway 1 in Bolivar County to east of Robinsonville near Mississippi Highway 304 referred to as the Section of Independent Utility of the national I-69 corridor ...
Jimmy Walker, chairman of the Chamber's Transportation Committee and Coahoma County's representative on the I-69 Coalition, recalled that support for I-69 had been in the works for more than a decade.
"It means we're going to have signs indicating future I-69 that will help developers," Walker said.
The most important aspect from the FHA decision, Morgan said, is that it will mean "Congress can put funds into the contract for future development of I-69."
Morgan said all of the environmental impact studies have been completed that clears the path for construction funding.
"It's a great day for the Mississippi delta," Morgan said." (Sept. 29, 2010 Clarksdale Press Register)
(http://www.pressregister.com/articles/2010/09/29/news/doc4ca24e9bda01c671228696.txt)
Too bad I'm not attending the King Biscuit Blues Fest in Helena (and colaborative events in Clarksdale), otherwise I'd get pictures. :no:
Jimmy Walker, chairman of the Chamber's Transportation Committee and Coahoma County's representative on the I-69 Coalition, recalled that support for I-69 had been in the works for more than a decade.[/quote]
That sounds DYYNNOOOMIIITE!!!!! :-D :spin:
Quote from: Grzrd on September 29, 2010, 01:38:45 PM
Jimmy Walker, chairman of the Chamber's Transportation Committee and Coahoma County's representative on the I-69 Coalition ... It means we're going to have signs indicating future I-69 that will help developers," Walker said.
Received an email this morning (yep, a Saturday morning) from MDOT re possible "Future I-69 signs: " ... [MDOT] has discussed placing these signs with the City of Clarksdale and will be working towards getting this accomplished. We are also going to review the environmental document to determine what other sections( where I-69 will run concurrently with existing highways) may be eligible for this signing ..."
Problem there is, outside of the Clarksdale bypass, none of the "concurrently with existing highways" is even remotely considered freeway, let alone Interstate grade. They should be able to post "Future I-69 Corridor" guide signs, but actual Future I-69 shields is a no-go until MDOT upgrades more of the corridor to freeway.
Quote from: Grzrd on September 26, 2010, 12:32:06 AM
EDIT - QUESTION
Be honest. Assuming Mort not a member of this forum, had anyone else in this forum noticed absence of I-69 mile markers in Mississippi?
I actually noticed that when I traveled on 69 when I last drove it last year. However, I've wondered how would they number the markers with the interstate not anywhere close to being completed in Mississippi.
Quote from: golden eagle on November 28, 2010, 11:23:19 PM
Quote from: Grzrd on September 26, 2010, 12:32:06 AM
EDIT - QUESTION
Be honest. Assuming Mort not a member of this forum, had anyone else in this forum noticed absence of I-69 mile markers in Mississippi?
I actually noticed that when I traveled on 69 when I last drove it last year. However, I've wondered how would they number the markers with the interstate not anywhere close to being completed in Mississippi.
I received an email from MDOT this a.m. regarding the mileage markers:
"These mile markers were installed within the last month. These are considered temporary and the mileage begins for these at the beginning of designated I-69, just east of MS 3. This mileage runs from west to east and terminates at the intersection of I-55. Ultimately the mileage will begin at the Mississippi River and run to the Tennessee state-line when completed."
Has anyone noticed the new, temporary markers yet?
So, has anybody been in Memphis lately to see if TDOT got off their behinds finally to post I-69 on the section it got approval for?
It's (I-69) still not signed through Memphis.
Be well,
Bryant
Man, what is wrong with TDOT then? They ask and get approval and then don't post it? Sounds like they only did it so Mississippi could post it on their segment of I-55. Otherwise, they are pulling a NCDOT (US-311 extension approved, but not posted yet).
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 04, 2011, 09:54:18 PM
Man, what is wrong with TDOT then? They ask and get approval and then don't post it? Sounds like they only did it so Mississippi could post it on their segment of I-55. Otherwise, they are pulling a NCDOT (US-311 extension approved, but not posted yet).
Mississippi couldn't sign I-69 without Tennessee getting approval?
Quote from: golden eagle on March 04, 2011, 10:53:46 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 04, 2011, 09:54:18 PM
Man, what is wrong with TDOT then? They ask and get approval and then don't post it? Sounds like they only did it so Mississippi could post it on their segment of I-55. Otherwise, they are pulling a NCDOT (US-311 extension approved, but not posted yet).
Mississippi couldn't sign I-69 without Tennessee getting approval?
Along the I-55 multiplex at least.
69 signs have been signed along the 55 multiplex in MS since 2007. I know because I have a blurry photo of it from a 2007 road trip on my computer.
In this case I am going to take the contrarian view. Why should TN spend the money to erect a considerable number of signs through Memphis along three existing interstates for a roadway number that will serve as a pointless concurrency until the time that I-69 actually begins to be constructed north of Memphis?
I suspect at the time that begins to happen or at least until the signage along those sections of I-55, I-240, and I-40 would normally be replaced, then I-69 will appear.
Well, then why did Mississippi post it on their section of I-55 very fast? They even replaced some BGS's that had only been up for ~1 year to do it (right at the I-55/I-69 split). You would think they would have both posted it the same time. But then again, TDOT might be pulling a NCDOT (requested US-311 extension in 2003, but haven't posted it yet). But you would think with approval from the FHWA, they would have done this by now. :ded:
I don't know why MS did what they did, but it is likely they had just opened an actual segment of I-69, so at least in their case, they had a reason to erect the signs. As far as the multiplex with I-55, you could make an argument to leave the I-69 signs off for now. Maybe they just wanted to sign it up to their border and be done with it.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 07, 2011, 09:08:37 AM
Well, then why did Mississippi post it on their section of I-55 very fast? They even replaced some BGS's that had only been up for ~1 year to do it (right at the I-55/I-69 split). You would think they would have both posted it the same time. But then again, TDOT might be pulling a NCDOT (requested US-311 extension in 2003, but haven't posted it yet). But you would think with approval from the FHWA, they would have done this by now. :ded:
Pretty sure it all has to do with casino access - now you can just follow one number to get there.
I had not thought of the casino in Tunica, but that could explain why they went ahead and co-signed I-69 on the I-55 segment.
Quote from: AlpsROADS on March 07, 2011, 07:36:42 PM
Pretty sure it all has to do with casino access - now you can just follow one number to get there.
Not entirely. 69 forks off and swings south on 719 then ends, but the main road to the casino is straight ahead on MS 304. However 69 is trailblazed along EB 304 to get you back to the Interstate.
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QuoteNot entirely. 69 forks off and swings south on 719 then ends, but the main road to the casino is straight ahead on MS 304. However 69 is trailblazed along EB 304 to get you back to the Interstate.
For Harrah's and arguably Gold Strike, the "main road" is to follow 304. But for Hollywood and Sam's Town, it makes more sense to stay on 69 (which becomes 713). Most of the non-casino hotels are also closer to 713 than they are to 304.
I drove through Memphis Tuesday and all I saw were Future I-69 Corridor signs along I-40 north of the I-40/240 downtown interchange.
I want to post an update on this. TDOT "might" at least post an "End I-69" shield at the State Border on I-55. I sent an e-mail to Steve Chipman who is the head project manager of I-69 Segment 9.
He said the main reason why nothing other than "Future Corridor I-69" signs have been posted is because of the existing economic conditions. They also "do not see a benefit in signing existing routes until more of I-69 is completed. It would require modifying overhead and ground mount signs, added cost for surveying/establishing locations, developing a plan, and securing funding."
However, my suggestion in the e-mail to at least post an "End I-69" shield at the State Line "might have merit". He said he would pass that idea along "for consideration to see if it was possible". If it does happen, it would be the first "true" I-69 sign to be posted in TN, even if it has the "End" banner on top of it.
Most likely they'll ask Mississippi to, which frankly makes more sense, since it's Mississippi that wanted to sign it to the state line.
Until "more of I-69 is completed", it makes more sense to limit I-69 signage. Adding an END sign isn't going to do much more than confuse people.
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VERY NICE!!!!! Non-neutered shields! :clap:
Quote from: cjk374 on March 16, 2011, 06:54:47 PM
VERY NICE!!!!! Non-neutered shields! :clap:
Mississippi started bringing back the state name around 2008. I hear Louisiana is next. Tennessee? Good luck!
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 16, 2011, 11:12:33 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on March 16, 2011, 06:54:47 PM
VERY NICE!!!!! Non-neutered shields! :clap:
Mississippi started bringing back the state name around 2008. I hear Louisiana is next. Tennessee? Good luck!
Really? The next time I head to New Orleans, I'll check for such signs between Causeway and the 610 split in Metairie.
Quote from: brownpelican on March 18, 2011, 03:57:02 PM
Really? The next time I head to New Orleans, I'll check for such signs between Causeway and the 610 split in Metairie.
Jeff Royston just scoured the I-10 corridor and found precisely one new state-named shield. It's on a green sign in the town of Iowa, with a control city of Lake Charles.
my computer is being wonky so I can't upload it. Alex, a little help?
La 383 or US 165?
Quote from: Adam Smith on March 20, 2011, 03:41:46 PM
La 383 or US 165?
not sure. I just got the photo and the description that it's in Iowa.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 20, 2011, 03:49:24 PM
Quote from: Adam Smith on March 20, 2011, 03:41:46 PM
La 383 or US 165?
not sure. I just got the photo and the description that it's in Iowa.
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And here it is...
:wow: That looks sweet! Saves us the trip to Iowa (pronounced I-way)! :sombrero:
La 383 then. The US 165 interchange with I-10 is a folded diamond with no services, as I recall (from 2007).
Yeah, that's LA 383, all right.
And looky here....FHWA Series C font....no Clearview!! What happened, LADoTD, used up all the Clearview on I-49 between Lafayette and Opelousas??? LOL
Anthony
They've been putting them on state highways.
Quote from: Anthony_JK on March 23, 2011, 10:56:03 PM
Yeah, that's LA 383, all right.
And looky here....FHWA Series C font....no Clearview!! What happened, LADoTD, used up all the Clearview on I-49 between Lafayette and Opelousas??? LOL
Anthony
And I hope they lost the directions to the clearview store! :pan:
That I-10 green sign looks really nice!
Quote from: Anthony_JK on March 23, 2011, 10:56:03 PM
And looky here....FHWA Series C font....no Clearview!! What happened, LADoTD, used up all the Clearview on I-49 between Lafayette and Opelousas??? LOL
Uh yeah, I don't see what the problem is! :)
Quote from: froggie on November 13, 2010, 01:26:15 PM
Problem there is, outside of the Clarksdale bypass, none of the "concurrently with existing highways" is even remotely considered freeway, let alone Interstate grade. They should be able to post "Future I-69 Corridor" guide signs, but actual Future I-69 shields is a no-go until MDOT upgrades more of the corridor to freeway.
Not surprisingly, froggie called it ...
Last Friday, Clarksdale community leaders unveiled a new "Future I-69 Corridor" sign (linked article has a photo of the sign):
http://www.pressregister.com/articles/2011/04/06/news/doc4d9b12f614e3d422793615.txt
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 16, 2011, 11:12:33 PM
Mississippi started bringing back the state name around 2008. I hear Louisiana is next. Tennessee? Good luck!
I-49 is a mix of Neutered & Named Shields.
Quote from: US71 on April 07, 2011, 02:21:53 PM
I-49 is a mix of Neutered & Named Shields.
new ones? I just know of two surviving I-49 shields with state name from the last Louisiana state-named signing batch, which was around 1991. One is on the mainline and one is at a nearby exit.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 07, 2011, 04:39:35 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 07, 2011, 02:21:53 PM
I-49 is a mix of Neutered & Named Shields.
new ones? I just know of two surviving I-49 shields with state name from the last Louisiana state-named signing batch, which was around 1991. One is on the mainline and one is at a nearby exit.
I didn't get a good look (it was getting dark), but I saw at least 2 or 3 "named" between Lafayette & Alexandria two weeks ago, but more neutered than named
those must be new. excellent!