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Title: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: Alps on January 29, 2013, 09:03:05 PM
But I still think all of the roads are just for show...
http://goo.gl/maps/jyqez
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: corco on January 29, 2013, 09:17:30 PM
I'm pretty sure somebody just traced an aerial- wherever the road alignment gets questionable on an aerial, they stop mapping.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: The High Plains Traveler on January 29, 2013, 11:06:59 PM
How long until we see GSV?

Also, love the comments on locations like Pyongyang Indoor Stadium: "Got to see Phish play here during the Winter 2000 Tour. Killer show — I scored some heady shrooms from a military dude out in the parking lot. Cost me like 30 cents or something. Exchange rate is amazin".
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: NE2 on January 29, 2013, 11:57:55 PM
In after OSM.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: kphoger on January 30, 2013, 10:52:19 AM
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on January 29, 2013, 11:06:59 PM
How long until we see GSV?

Not until they rig up a walking cam.  But I bet they could find willing walkers for pennies on the dollar.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: formulanone on January 30, 2013, 11:11:35 AM
Double to triple-digit AADT's at best.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: empirestate on January 30, 2013, 11:34:16 AM
I think the common border of North Korea, China and Russia would be a pretty fascinating place to visit: http://goo.gl/maps/dGkSt

I also enjoy that you can view Russian topo maps of the area on http://transport.marshruty.ru/Transport/Place/86466-Khasan%20/
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: vdeane on January 30, 2013, 11:40:03 AM
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on January 29, 2013, 11:06:59 PM
How long until we see GSV?
I doubt North Korea's government would ever allow anything like street view.  It's worth noting that North Korea's data is 100% map maker, so it's not from actually going to North Korea to find out the conditions.  Interestingly, North Korea uses US/Canada style cartography, while South Korea has its own system.

Quote from: empirestate on January 30, 2013, 11:34:16 AM
I think the common border of North Korea, China and Russia would be a pretty fascinating place to visit: http://goo.gl/maps/dGkSt

I also enjoy that you can view Russian topo maps of the area on http://transport.marshruty.ru/Transport/Place/86466-Khasan%20/
I wonder how that road transmorgifies into a rail line...
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 30, 2013, 12:24:49 PM
Quote from: deanej on January 30, 2013, 11:40:03 AM
I wonder how that road transmorgifies into a rail line...

http://vienna-pyongyang.blogspot.com/2008/09/khabarovsk-khasan-border-russiadprk.html

there is a rail crossing between Russia and North Korea.  the road merely leads up to it.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: vdeane on January 30, 2013, 04:42:20 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 30, 2013, 12:24:49 PM
Quote from: deanej on January 30, 2013, 11:40:03 AM
I wonder how that road transmorgifies into a rail line...

http://vienna-pyongyang.blogspot.com/2008/09/khabarovsk-khasan-border-russiadprk.html

there is a rail crossing between Russia and North Korea.  the road merely leads up to it.
That's not what is shown of Google Maps...  :pan:
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 30, 2013, 04:47:58 PM
where is there a magical transmogrification?

http://goo.gl/maps/eQKLb

there is a road that ends half in the middle of the water...
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: kphoger on January 30, 2013, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 30, 2013, 04:47:58 PM
where is there a magical transmogrification?

http://goo.gl/maps/eQKLb

there is a road that ends half in the middle of the water...

Yes, zoom in a few levels and it becomes more obvious.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: Alps on January 30, 2013, 06:08:44 PM
Quote from: deanej on January 30, 2013, 11:40:03 AM
Quote from: empirestate on January 30, 2013, 11:34:16 AM
I think the common border of North Korea, China and Russia would be a pretty fascinating place to visit: http://goo.gl/maps/dGkSt

I also enjoy that you can view Russian topo maps of the area on http://transport.marshruty.ru/Transport/Place/86466-Khasan%20/
I wonder how that road transmorgifies into a rail line...
Based on satellite view, the North Koreans have no issue running a road straight into a rail line, because no one uses the roads anyway.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: Zmapper on January 30, 2013, 07:40:02 PM
Is Google updated enough to give forced marching directions?
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: mc78andrew on January 30, 2013, 09:30:14 PM
What a bizarre place.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: vdeane on January 31, 2013, 10:58:57 AM
Quote from: kphoger on January 30, 2013, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 30, 2013, 04:47:58 PM
where is there a magical transmogrification?

http://goo.gl/maps/eQKLb

there is a road that ends half in the middle of the water...

Yes, zoom in a few levels and it becomes more obvious.
I did, but by that point I had switched to satellite view, forgetting that map data and where stuff appears in the imagery does not  always match up in Asia; under the satellite view, the road is on the railroad bridge, and railroads do not appear in the satellite map data layer, so it appears as if the road becomes the rail line.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: KEK Inc. on February 05, 2013, 12:13:10 PM
You can watch documentaries of people going into North Korea.  Most of the roads are just wide barren expanses of unmarked tarmac with occasional trucks.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: kphoger on February 05, 2013, 01:26:02 PM
Am I the only one here who didn't know the roads hadn't been mapped in North Korea?
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: NE2 on February 05, 2013, 02:13:33 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 05, 2013, 01:26:02 PM
Am I the only one here who didn't know the roads hadn't been mapped in North Korea?
Nope.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 05, 2013, 02:18:27 PM
so have these maps been verified independently?  or am I going to stumble upon a twelve-lane freeway on the map, corresponding to random vegetation on the aerial image?
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: Alps on February 05, 2013, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 05, 2013, 02:18:27 PM
so have these maps been verified independently?  or am I going to stumble upon a twelve-lane freeway on the map, corresponding to random vegetation on the aerial image?
Shh, that's the secret underground nuclear missile test bunker No such thing.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: kphoger on February 05, 2013, 06:47:29 PM
Quote from: Steve on February 05, 2013, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 05, 2013, 02:18:27 PM
so have these maps been verified independently?  or am I going to stumble upon a twelve-lane freeway on the map, corresponding to random vegetation on the aerial image?
Shh, that's the secret underground nuclear missile test bunker No such thing.

Never trust a North Korean cabbage patch!
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: SteveG1988 on September 30, 2013, 11:11:12 AM
The road is where people go to get liberated from their country, free floating across the river with a handy push from an officer and a bit of metal.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: Desert Man on October 02, 2013, 09:26:00 AM
North Korea is a secretive place, a real life "Hermit's Kingdom" by leaders trying to keep in itself from the outside world. Not only a void in Google maps until recently, at night from a satellite: it took pictures of North Korea without lights! You can easily tell the country by a lack of outdoor lighting, in contrast to highly-electrified South Korea, China and even Japan.
Title: Re: North Korea roads now mapped in Google Maps
Post by: SteveG1988 on October 06, 2013, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: Mike D boy on October 02, 2013, 09:26:00 AM
North Korea is a secretive place, a real life "Hermit's Kingdom" by leaders trying to keep in itself from the outside world. Not only a void in Google maps until recently, at night from a satellite: it took pictures of North Korea without lights! You can easily tell the country by a lack of outdoor lighting, in contrast to highly-electrified South Korea, China and even Japan.

Someone noticed that there are pricks of light in the countryside...that line up with known prison camps.