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Title: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: 1995hoo on February 05, 2013, 09:34:21 AM
Salt Lake Tribune: Utah lawmakers move to create more 80 mph speed zones (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55743991-90/allowed-areas-data-limit.html.csp).

The story says the 80-mph "test" zones were deemed a success and that the average speed in the 80-mph zones increased by only 1 mph over the average when they were posted at 75.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: US 41 on February 05, 2013, 11:28:09 AM
I hate low speed limits. What I hate most is when they lower the speed limit on a road. I'm glad some states are raising speed limits on their roads.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: nexus73 on February 05, 2013, 11:31:08 AM
We're still stuck with 65 MPH in Oregon thanks to nannystatism ruling the roost.

Rick
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 05, 2013, 12:02:29 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 05, 2013, 09:34:21 AM
Salt Lake Tribune: Utah lawmakers move to create more 80 mph speed zones (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55743991-90/allowed-areas-data-limit.html.csp).

The story says the 80-mph "test" zones were deemed a success and that the average speed in the 80-mph zones increased by only 1 mph over the average when they were posted at 75.

that jibes with my personal observations.  In Utah, I go 82 in a 75, and in the 80 zones I set cruise control to 83 or 84.  traffic behavior seems to be nearly identical; probably 1mph faster, which I don't think I could observe just by driving.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: 1995hoo on February 05, 2013, 12:28:40 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 05, 2013, 12:02:29 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 05, 2013, 09:34:21 AM
Salt Lake Tribune: Utah lawmakers move to create more 80 mph speed zones (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55743991-90/allowed-areas-data-limit.html.csp).

The story says the 80-mph "test" zones were deemed a success and that the average speed in the 80-mph zones increased by only 1 mph over the average when they were posted at 75.

that jibes with my personal observations.  In Utah, I go 82 in a 75, and in the 80 zones I set cruise control to 83 or 84.  traffic behavior seems to be nearly identical; probably 1mph faster, which I don't think I could observe just by driving.

The other thing about the average speed numbers in those situations is that they are easily explained by considering the people who say something like, "I'd like to go faster, but I obey the law." This sort of driver will be doing 75 in a 75-mph zone and will speed up to 80 in an 80-mph zone. If enough drivers do that, the average speed increases.

Utah's experience seems fairly consistent with what New York State experienced when they finally allowed a 65-mph rural limit under the old NMSL shortly before that law was repealed in 1995. I recall reading somewhere that on New York roads that saw the increase from 55 to 65, the average speed increased from around 64 mph to 67 or 68 mph. Once again, that's amply traceable to the "speed-limit obeyers" speeding up.

Every time there's talk of a speed-limit increase anywhere around here I see the usual scare tactics by the people who say "if you post 70, everyone will go 80," etc. It doesn't match my experience on the roads at all. We finally got more widespread 70-mph zones in Virginia in 2010 and I find I still regularly encounter people going slower than 70. On the other hand, I don't encounter nearly as many people going 90 mph as I used to in the 1990s, but that's just as likely to be a function of increased traffic levels making it hard to go that fast.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: oscar on February 05, 2013, 12:45:01 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 05, 2013, 12:28:40 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 05, 2013, 12:02:29 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 05, 2013, 09:34:21 AM
Salt Lake Tribune: Utah lawmakers move to create more 80 mph speed zones (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55743991-90/allowed-areas-data-limit.html.csp).

The story says the 80-mph "test" zones were deemed a success and that the average speed in the 80-mph zones increased by only 1 mph over the average when they were posted at 75.

that jibes with my personal observations.  In Utah, I go 82 in a 75, and in the 80 zones I set cruise control to 83 or 84.  traffic behavior seems to be nearly identical; probably 1mph faster, which I don't think I could observe just by driving.

The other thing about the average speed numbers in those situations is that they are easily explained by considering the people who say something like, "I'd like to go faster, but I obey the law." This sort of driver will be doing 75 in a 75-mph zone and will speed up to 80 in an 80-mph zone. If enough drivers do that, the average speed increases.

Utah's experience seems fairly consistent with what New York State experienced when they finally allowed a 65-mph rural limit under the old NMSL shortly before that law was repealed in 1995. I recall reading somewhere that on New York roads that saw the increase from 55 to 65, the average speed increased from around 64 mph to 67 or 68 mph. Once again, that's amply traceable to the "speed-limit obeyers" speeding up.

Every time there's talk of a speed-limit increase anywhere around here I see the usual scare tactics by the people who say "if you post 70, everyone will go 80," etc. It doesn't match my experience on the roads at all. We finally got more widespread 70-mph zones in Virginia in 2010 and I find I still regularly encounter people going slower than 70. On the other hand, I don't encounter nearly as many people going 90 mph as I used to in the 1990s, but that's just as likely to be a function of increased traffic levels making it hard to go that fast.

I suspect that what's going on is the "speed limit obeyers" who speed up when the limit increases, are partly offset by the "reasonable speed limit obeyers", who don't pay a lot of attention to unreasonably low limits, but if the limit is increased to something more reasonable, they'll slow down a little so they don't have to worry about getting pulled over.  That squares with what I've observed in Texas and the mountain states, where speed limits more closely resemble what most drivers would do anyway. 
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: oscar on February 05, 2013, 12:55:20 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 05, 2013, 09:34:21 AM
Salt Lake Tribune: Utah lawmakers move to create more 80 mph speed zones (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55743991-90/allowed-areas-data-limit.html.csp).

The article, and the earlier article linked to it, mention only parts of I-15, I-80, and I-84 as candidates for additional 80 mph zones.  Anyone there have any idea why no segments of I-70 were on the list?
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: kphoger on February 05, 2013, 01:54:14 PM
It's commonsense that, if you post a rural freeway at 20 mph, a lot of people are going to speed by a lot, whereas, if you post the same rural freeway at 90 mph, hardly anybody will speed by more than 10 mph.  It stands to reason, then, that the amount by which people speed is not as simple as "10 over, no matter what the speed limit"....
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Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 05, 2013, 01:55:23 PM
indeed, people in Germany don't drive infinity-plus-ten miles an hour.  the 50th percentile cruising speed is about 150 km/h.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: Rover_0 on February 05, 2013, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: oscar on February 05, 2013, 12:55:20 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 05, 2013, 09:34:21 AM
Salt Lake Tribune: Utah lawmakers move to create more 80 mph speed zones (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55743991-90/allowed-areas-data-limit.html.csp).

The article, and the earlier article linked to it, mention only parts of I-15, I-80, and I-84 as candidates for additional 80 mph zones.  Anyone there have any idea why no segments of I-70 were on the list?

My guess why I-70 isn't being looked at for 80 MPH is terrain/road quality. I recall driving along I-70 in 2007 (yes, that's a while ago) and some spots were quite rough and uneven. It might have something to do with the distances between towns, and, therefore, maintainance stations.

That said, I don't know why parts east of Green River aren't considered, either.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: Sykotyk on February 05, 2013, 08:40:42 PM
I-70 would be a bad choice. Between the mountain crossing to the west, the San Raphael Swell, the only decent spot would be when US191 multiplexes with I-70 east of Green River.

I-80 between Wendover and near Magna would be primed for 80mph (almost entirely straight and flat and even advises people about not falling asleep while driving).
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 05, 2013, 08:56:29 PM
Quote from: Sykotyk on February 05, 2013, 08:40:42 PM
I-70 would be a bad choice. Between the mountain crossing to the west, the San Raphael Swell, the only decent spot would be when US191 multiplexes with I-70 east of Green River.

I-80 between Wendover and near Magna would be primed for 80mph (almost entirely straight and flat and even advises people about not falling asleep while driving).

easiest way to keep them from falling asleep?

no speed limit.

minimum speed 100mph.

have fun, boys and girls.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: corco on September 29, 2013, 12:54:11 AM
Sorry to necro, but I drove I-84/I-15 from Idaho down to SLC today and I can confirm that the 80 zones have been expanded on I-84 from Idaho all the way to the first Brigham City exit after it merges with I-15. I'd assume I-15 from Idaho south is 80 now too.

No new signs, they just slapped "80" labels over the old 75s.   
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: Molandfreak on September 29, 2013, 01:09:41 AM
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http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/56883181-90/already-driving-hull-limits.html.csp
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: hotdogPi on September 29, 2013, 09:27:31 AM
Quote from: Molandfreak on September 29, 2013, 01:09:41 AM
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Also, why does mile 135-144 stay below 80?
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: thenetwork on September 29, 2013, 09:55:59 AM
And once again, UDOT gives the stretch of I-70 (particularly the segment between Green River and Colorado) the love that only an ugly red-headed stepchild is said to deserve.
Honorable mention to the I-70/US-89 multiplex between Salina and Richfield.

That stretch is flat, straight and has low traffic counts -- it's the West Texas of Utah, and yet no love or attention.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: Revive 755 on September 29, 2013, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2013, 09:27:31 AM
Also, why does mile 135-144 stay below 80?

I recall there being some decent grades in that section.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=utah&hl=en&ll=38.681222,-112.464638&spn=0.227004,0.528374&sll=39.739318,-89.266507&sspn=14.297245,33.815918&hnear=Utah&t=p&z=12 (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=utah&hl=en&ll=38.681222,-112.464638&spn=0.227004,0.528374&sll=39.739318,-89.266507&sspn=14.297245,33.815918&hnear=Utah&t=p&z=12)
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: Molandfreak on September 29, 2013, 01:28:26 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on September 29, 2013, 09:55:59 AM
And once again, UDOT gives the stretch of I-70 (particularly the segment between Green River and Colorado) the love that only an ugly red-headed stepchild is said to deserve.
Honorable mention to the I-70/US-89 multiplex between Salina and Richfield.

That stretch is flat, straight and has low traffic counts -- it's the West Texas of Utah, and yet no love or attention.
Well shoot, I thought it would be for continuity reasons with Colorado's side, but it looks like right as you cross the border, the terrain changes back to mountains.



Quote from: Revive 755 on September 29, 2013, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2013, 09:27:31 AM
Also, why does mile 135-144 stay below 80?

I recall there being some decent grades in that section.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=utah&hl=en&ll=38.681222,-112.464638&spn=0.227004,0.528374&sll=39.739318,-89.266507&sspn=14.297245,33.815918&hnear=Utah&t=p&z=12 (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=utah&hl=en&ll=38.681222,-112.464638&spn=0.227004,0.528374&sll=39.739318,-89.266507&sspn=14.297245,33.815918&hnear=Utah&t=p&z=12)
Correct. UDOT seems to only allow the straightest, lowest grade sections of interstate to be signed with the 80 mph limit.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: vdeane on September 29, 2013, 07:22:06 PM
I'm surprised I-70 didn't get raised to 80.  It's big and, within Utah at least, goes nowhere.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: thenetwork on September 29, 2013, 09:52:10 PM
 
Quote from: vdeane on September 29, 2013, 07:22:06 PM
I'm surprised I-70 didn't get raised to 80.  It's big and, within Utah at least, goes nowhere.

There's not enough Utes along I-70 to complain about the lack of 80 MPH zones, especially on the eastern side of the state!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: Henry on September 30, 2013, 02:37:07 PM
Perhaps the bordering states may follow suit?
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: corco on September 30, 2013, 02:58:53 PM
QuotePerhaps the bordering states may follow suit?

I'd like to see it, but I doubt Idaho does. In the last decade they've lowered a bunch of speed limits I can think of and haven't raised any that I can think of.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: agentsteel53 on September 30, 2013, 03:22:51 PM
Quote from: corco on September 30, 2013, 02:58:53 PM

I'd like to see it, but I doubt Idaho does. In the last decade they've lowered a bunch of speed limits I can think of and haven't raised any that I can think of.

I seem to recall the speed limit on I-84 through Boise being 75mph.  am I imagining that, or did they drop it to 65?
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: corco on October 01, 2013, 01:03:49 AM
QuoteI seem to recall the speed limit on I-84 through Boise being 75mph.  am I imagining that, or did they drop it to 65?

I think it was 75 briefly in the late 90s, but it's been 65 for a really long time now.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: agentsteel53 on October 01, 2013, 01:13:19 PM
Quote from: corco on October 01, 2013, 01:03:49 AM
QuoteI seem to recall the speed limit on I-84 through Boise being 75mph.  am I imagining that, or did they drop it to 65?

I think it was 75 briefly in the late 90s, but it's been 65 for a really long time now.

I recall this from 2003.  maybe I'm totally imagining it.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: corco on October 01, 2013, 03:42:31 PM
2003 might be the date. They did some major reconstruction on I-84 in the summer of 2003 (I remember this because I was in driver's ed in Boise at the time and was driving through road construction on the freeway), so it's possible that in spring 03 the limit was still 75. I'm certain that after that point it was always 65. 
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: thenetwork on February 15, 2014, 08:48:58 PM
Here is the latest update on the progress in adding more 80 MPH zones in Utah, which oddly enough is Utah House Bill 80:

http://www.claimsjournal.com/news/west/2014/02/14/244518.htm

Things are moving right along.  Now if they would only consider I-70 east of Green River as an 80 MPH zone.  :poke:
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: Rover_0 on February 16, 2014, 07:16:54 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on February 15, 2014, 08:48:58 PM
Here is the latest update on the progress in adding more 80 MPH zones in Utah, which oddly enough is Utah House Bill 80:

http://www.claimsjournal.com/news/west/2014/02/14/244518.htm

Things are moving right along.  Now if they would only consider I-70 east of Green River as an 80 MPH zone.  :poke:

These are planned for Interstates only, right? I'm not sure where else you could raise the speed limit, at least to the extent of any 80 MPH zones that have already been established.

I-70/(US-6/50/191) east of Green River should be one of the top candidates for an 80 MPH zone.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 16, 2014, 07:54:23 PM
interstate 80 is 80mph from exit 77 (if not further east) to exit 48 (if not further west). 

certain two-lane routes could be 75.  196 heading north from Dugway Proving Grounds for example.  nobody on that road.  literally.  I didn't see another car on the entire length.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: andy3175 on March 07, 2014, 12:33:08 AM
More info on the effort to expand the 80 mph zones:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/57579572-90/mph-utah-bill-speed.html.csp

QuoteA bill to vastly expand 80 mph speed limits on the state's freeways crossed the legislative finish line Friday (2/21/14). The Senate voted 21-4 to approve the appropriately named HB80 and sent it to Gov. Gary Herbert for his signature.

QuoteLast year, Utah added 289 extra miles of 80 mph stretches on selected parts of rural freeways. The new bill would expand such zones to any freeway or limited-access divided highways where the Utah Department of Transportation finds that higher speeds make engineering sense. In addition, if officials believe speeds should not rise all the way to 80 in some urban sections, the bill would permit raising them from the current 65 mph to 70 mph or 75 mph. Utah currently allows 65 mph on urban freeways, while 75 is the default on rural freeways – with 80 on select segments.

QuoteThe Utah Department of Transportation and Dunnigan initially testified this year that no fatalities had occurred in the 80 mph zones. But The Salt Lake Tribune subsequently learned and reported that at least 16 fatalities had occurred there, although UDOT said most were not speed-related and likely would have happened whether or not the speed limit changed.

Regards,
Andy
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: Haeleus on June 13, 2014, 08:04:29 PM
At least most of the western states have 75 mph limits, which as a Canadian I appreciate when I go road tripping...wish they'd raise the limits beyond 100 km/h here in Ontario.

That said, I've been on the 80 mph stretch of I-15 and frankly, after visiting Europe and driving on much narrower freeways at at least 120 km/h, it was nice to see Utah considering testing higher limits.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: doorknob60 on June 16, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
Quote from: Haeleus on June 13, 2014, 08:04:29 PM
At least most of the western states have 75 mph limits, which as a Canadian I appreciate when I go road tripping...wish they'd raise the limits beyond 100 km/h here in Ontario.

That said, I've been on the 80 mph stretch of I-15 and frankly, after visiting Europe and driving on much narrower freeways at at least 120 km/h, it was nice to see Utah considering testing higher limits.

As an Oregonian, I feel your pain. Similar situation here. 55 mph on any non-interstate, and 65 mph on interstates. East of the Cascades though, nobody cares. Drivers, cops, everyone knows it's bullshit. Maybe less so on the interstates (keep it below 75), but on the rural two lanes, it's a complete joke. I drove about 73 almost the entire way from Bend to Marsing, ID (US-20, OR-78, US-95) other than through towns and within 20 miles of Bend (cops like to hang out in the section near Bend, but will only pull you over for 65+; my friend got a warning here for 70, even with Washington plates). Passed two state troopers the whole way, neither one cared (although one of them I passed at about 50 mph, just pulled back onto the highway after a bathroom break; the other I passed at about 70).
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: corco on June 16, 2014, 03:22:13 PM
Quote from: doorknob60 on June 16, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
Quote from: Haeleus on June 13, 2014, 08:04:29 PM
At least most of the western states have 75 mph limits, which as a Canadian I appreciate when I go road tripping...wish they'd raise the limits beyond 100 km/h here in Ontario.

That said, I've been on the 80 mph stretch of I-15 and frankly, after visiting Europe and driving on much narrower freeways at at least 120 km/h, it was nice to see Utah considering testing higher limits.

As an Oregonian, I feel your pain. Similar situation here. 55 mph on any non-interstate, and 65 mph on interstates. East of the Cascades though, nobody cares. Drivers, cops, everyone knows it's bullshit. Maybe less so on the interstates (keep it below 75), but on the rural two lanes, it's a complete joke. I drove about 73 almost the entire way from Bend to Marsing, ID (US-20, OR-78, US-95) other than through towns and within 20 miles of Bend (cops like to hang out in the section near Bend, but will only pull you over for 65+; my friend got a warning here for 70, even with Washington plates). Passed two state troopers the whole way, neither one cared (although one of them I passed at about 50 mph, just pulled back onto the highway after a bathroom break; the other I passed at about 70).

Something I notice about driving in eastern Oregon that is different from most of the non-coastal west is that cars like to stick together. Drive in Idaho or Eastern Washington or Nevada or Montana or any other western state, and people tend to not want to be near other cars on rural highways- people either pass or lay off. Oregon, I think because of its low speed limits, encourages folks to clump together in blocks of speeding cars. A few weeks ago, I was on 97 north of Madras going about 75 in a line of 6-7 cars, all of us presumably protecting each other from the cops. To me, that's way more dangerous than setting the speed limit at something sensible and folks spacing out accordingly (honestly, I would have probably gone 70 if i were driving by myself and speed limits weren't a factor, but I wanted to keep up with the cop protection block, so drove faster than I would have under normal circumstances), but that's what happens in Oregon in my experiences.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: andy3175 on January 06, 2015, 11:56:54 PM
While not directly tied to the 80 mph zones, Utah added 70 mph zones on its urban freeways in December 2014...

http://www.sltrib.com/news/1922845-155/70-mph-speed-limit-now-official

QuoteUtah Department of Transportation crews installed Monday new 70 mph speed limit signs on urban interstate freeways along the Wasatch Front, replacing the old 65 mph limit in most sections.

However, the Utah Highway Patrol is warning that it will strictly enforce the new limits. Col. Danny Fuhr, superintendent of the Highway Patrol, said it will target anyone for tickets who is traveling 75 mph or more.

The Legislature this year passed a law allowing UDOT to raise speed limits up to 80 mph on interstates where it figures it is safe.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: Revive 755 on June 17, 2015, 09:58:58 PM
A month old, but:

UDOT informs Utah Transportation Commission of intent to raise speed limits in certain areas of I-80, I-70 and I-84 (http://blog.udot.utah.gov/2015/05/udot-informs-utah-transportation-commission-of-intent-to-raise-speed-limits-in-certain-areas-of-i-80-i-70-and-i-84/)
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on June 17, 2015, 10:29:27 PM
Quote from: doorknob60 on June 16, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
Quote from: Haeleus on June 13, 2014, 08:04:29 PM
At least most of the western states have 75 mph limits, which as a Canadian I appreciate when I go road tripping...wish they'd raise the limits beyond 100 km/h here in Ontario.

That said, I've been on the 80 mph stretch of I-15 and frankly, after visiting Europe and driving on much narrower freeways at at least 120 km/h, it was nice to see Utah considering testing higher limits.

As an Oregonian, I feel your pain. Similar situation here. 55 mph on any non-interstate, and 65 mph on interstates. East of the Cascades though, nobody cares. Drivers, cops, everyone knows it's bullshit. Maybe less so on the interstates (keep it below 75), but on the rural two lanes, it's a complete joke. I drove about 73 almost the entire way from Bend to Marsing, ID (US-20, OR-78, US-95) other than through towns and within 20 miles of Bend (cops like to hang out in the section near Bend, but will only pull you over for 65+; my friend got a warning here for 70, even with Washington plates). Passed two state troopers the whole way, neither one cared (although one of them I passed at about 50 mph, just pulled back onto the highway after a bathroom break; the other I passed at about 70).

I feel the pain in Kentucky too. Non-freeway routes are always 55. Freeway routes in rural areas are at a meager 70. Urban freeways are 65. And urban core freeways are 55. Some freeways in Kentucky could use 75 mph speed limits. Especially routes that are interstate standard. I could think I-75 between Lexington and the I-75 and I-71 split could be 75. I-75 between I-265 and I-75 could be mostly 75. Also I-65 outside of Bowling Green, Elizabethtown, and Louisville could be 75. I can't think of any expressway grade roads that aren't mountainis or super-two (AA Highway) that could have a raised speed limit except the tiny stretches of US 119/US 52 cutting over from WV. Those should be 60 or 65 for those short periods of time. If the AA highway is upgraded to an  expressway grade road the new sections and the existing sections south of US 27 could be 60 (Not 65 because of alot of hills).
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: jeffandnicole on June 17, 2015, 10:58:48 PM
Quote from: doorknob60 on June 16, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
Quote from: Haeleus on June 13, 2014, 08:04:29 PM
At least most of the western states have 75 mph limits, which as a Canadian I appreciate when I go road tripping...wish they'd raise the limits beyond 100 km/h here in Ontario.

That said, I've been on the 80 mph stretch of I-15 and frankly, after visiting Europe and driving on much narrower freeways at at least 120 km/h, it was nice to see Utah considering testing higher limits.

As an Oregonian, I feel your pain. Similar situation here. 55 mph on any non-interstate, and 65 mph on interstates. East of the Cascades though, nobody cares. Drivers, cops, everyone knows it's bullshit. Maybe less so on the interstates (keep it below 75)...

Really? Even that is a joke. In way more densely populated New Jersey, generally they allow up to 79 mph in a 65. Maybe even faster on the NJ Turnpike.

Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: doorknob60 on June 23, 2015, 05:28:55 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 17, 2015, 10:58:48 PM
Quote from: doorknob60 on June 16, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
Quote from: Haeleus on June 13, 2014, 08:04:29 PM
At least most of the western states have 75 mph limits, which as a Canadian I appreciate when I go road tripping...wish they'd raise the limits beyond 100 km/h here in Ontario.

That said, I've been on the 80 mph stretch of I-15 and frankly, after visiting Europe and driving on much narrower freeways at at least 120 km/h, it was nice to see Utah considering testing higher limits.

As an Oregonian, I feel your pain. Similar situation here. 55 mph on any non-interstate, and 65 mph on interstates. East of the Cascades though, nobody cares. Drivers, cops, everyone knows it's bullshit. Maybe less so on the interstates (keep it below 75)...

Really? Even that is a joke. In way more densely populated New Jersey, generally they allow up to 79 mph in a 65. Maybe even faster on the NJ Turnpike.
I've never gotten a ticket, but I'm just going on observations. On I-84 in eastern Oregon, anything below 80 is probably fine, but between Portland and The Dalles and on I-5 between Portland and Eugene I'd be wary of going above 75 (not saying I don't do it sometimes). I imagine those are more heavily patrolled areas. In Eastern Oregon they don't really care as much.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: thenetwork on June 23, 2015, 10:27:35 PM
I got word from a coworker that I-70 has FINALLY got the 80 MPH speed limit at least from the Colorado border and west toward Green River.  About freakin time!!!
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: US 41 on June 30, 2015, 09:49:55 PM
Quote from: doorknob60 on June 16, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
Quote from: Haeleus on June 13, 2014, 08:04:29 PM
At least most of the western states have 75 mph limits, which as a Canadian I appreciate when I go road tripping...wish they'd raise the limits beyond 100 km/h here in Ontario.

That said, I've been on the 80 mph stretch of I-15 and frankly, after visiting Europe and driving on much narrower freeways at at least 120 km/h, it was nice to see Utah considering testing higher limits.

As an Oregonian, I feel your pain. Similar situation here. 55 mph on any non-interstate, and 65 mph on interstates. East of the Cascades though, nobody cares. Drivers, cops, everyone knows it's bullshit. Maybe less so on the interstates (keep it below 75), but on the rural two lanes, it's a complete joke. I drove about 73 almost the entire way from Bend to Marsing, ID (US-20, OR-78, US-95) other than through towns and within 20 miles of Bend (cops like to hang out in the section near Bend, but will only pull you over for 65+; my friend got a warning here for 70, even with Washington plates). Passed two state troopers the whole way, neither one cared (although one of them I passed at about 50 mph, just pulled back onto the highway after a bathroom break; the other I passed at about 70).

I wish Illinois would raise some of their 2 lane highways to at least 60 if not 65. US 36 between Tuscola and the Indiana state line is the flattest, straightest, and the boringest road. I try to drive the speed limit all the time, but I often find myself going 60 or 65 on that road. It's hard to keep my speed down, especially after driving 70 mph on I-57.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: Kniwt on November 14, 2015, 03:47:31 PM
The 80mph zone on I-15 in southern Utah is expanding a bit, and other speed limits are changing, Fox 13 in Salt Lake City reports:
http://fox13now.com/2015/11/13/speed-limits-on-i-15-to-increase-in-and-around-st-george/

Quotethe speed from mile post 16 to 24 will go up from 75 to 80 mph.

Also, the speed limit from the Arizona line to mile 4 will drop from 75 to 70 (the linked article is wrong on this point), and the speed limit from mile 4 to mile 11 will increase from 65 to 70.
Title: Re: Utah may expand 80-mph zones
Post by: triplemultiplex on November 14, 2015, 06:58:05 PM
I must not have been following this thread when the link about urban 70 mph was posted because I was surprised to see it on my current trip to Utah.
I-215 on the west side is a little too rough at that speed for my comfort.  The pavement is getting pretty bad.