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Title: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 06, 2013, 12:05:30 PM
Does your state have a highway 19?

no?

how about a 112?
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: kphoger on February 06, 2013, 12:07:46 PM
You're terrible.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: Takumi on February 06, 2013, 12:08:50 PM
:rofl:

Virginia has a 112, but only US 19. What used to be VA 19 is now VA 6, for the most part.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 06, 2013, 12:26:13 PM
CA-19 is Rosemead Blvd., a fairly major north-south arterial just east of LA proper.

CA-112 is one of those wonky numbers that's signed as another number (61 in this case) because California likes doing that kind of wacky shit.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: formulanone on February 06, 2013, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 06, 2013, 12:05:30 PM
Does your state have a highway 19?

You say "your state" like I actually own it, or something. One day, I'll drive the other 18 million of them out.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: jp the roadgeek on February 06, 2013, 01:00:02 PM
Yes and Yes.  CT 19 runs in the middle of nowhere (Stafford Springs) up into MA, where it becomes MA 19 and runs more in the middle of nowhere through Monson and Brookfield, MA.  CT 112 takes you from US 7 to US 44, and runs right by the Lime Rock Park racing circuit and Hotchkiss School.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: amh424 on February 06, 2013, 01:06:02 PM
Illinois has Route 19 running from Elgin to Chicago, commonly known as Irving Park Rd.

Illinois 112 in southern IL was replaced by IL 159.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: KEK Inc. on February 06, 2013, 01:10:07 PM
lol

WA-19 connecting Port Townsend to WA-104, which connects that area to the Kitsap peninsula (Silverdale, Bremerton, Bainbridge Island, Port Orchards, etc.) 

WA-112 is actually not too far away.  It's an auxiliary state route to US-101 in Port Angeles.  (Washington numbers a lot of state highways off of parent Interstate or US highways). 


OR-19 is the John Day highway.  It spurs from I-84 in Eastern Oregon and ends at US-26.  There's no [signed] OR-112 from my knowledge.  Of course, you could count the weird secondary ODOT numbering system that no commoner knows, but I don't even think there's a 112 there. 
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: TheStranger on February 06, 2013, 01:36:38 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 06, 2013, 12:26:13 PM


CA-112 is one of those wonky numbers that's signed as another number (61 in this case) because California likes doing that kind of wacky shit.

Some 112 signs exist now:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/csampang/sets/72157629231541792/
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: cpzilliacus on February 06, 2013, 03:36:39 PM
Maryland has a 19 - it's in Queen Anne's County (Eastern Shore) - not a very  long route, either.

Maryland also has a 112 - it's Seneca Road in Montgomery County, even shorter than 19.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: NE2 on February 06, 2013, 03:44:56 PM
Alanland has both, but no signs say GOAT.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: vdeane on February 06, 2013, 05:08:09 PM
NY has both.  They do and do not end at NY's lengthy and non-existent border with Alanland, requiring you to both stop and not stop for the Alanland border goat.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: kj3400 on February 06, 2013, 06:45:49 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on February 06, 2013, 03:36:39 PM
Maryland has a 19 - it's in Queen Anne's County (Eastern Shore) - not a very  long route, either.

Maryland also has a 112 - it's Seneca Road in Montgomery County, even shorter than 19.

MD's routes are only short because they detour through Alanland.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: Alps on February 06, 2013, 06:55:52 PM
NJ has a 19, RI has a 112. I'll be going from one to the other tomorrow.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: theline on February 06, 2013, 07:42:37 PM
OK, I'll play. Does your state have a route 19 that is exactly 112 miles long or a route 112 that is exactly 19 miles long? :hmmm:
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: Mapmikey on February 06, 2013, 08:13:42 PM
Virginia's original VA 112 was duplexed with, then supplanted by US 19.

Mapmikey
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: US81 on February 06, 2013, 09:23:15 PM
Yes to both. TX 112 replaced TX 69.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 06, 2013, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: deanej on February 06, 2013, 05:08:09 PM
NY has both.
And I'm far more familiar with the latter since it ran through my reluctantly former hometown.


Florida has both too, although people on the west coast are more familiar with US 19 than SR 19. I for one have never been to State Toll Road 112 myself, but my lack of contact with the Miami-Dade Metropolitan Area doesn't disprove the route's existence.



Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: sp_redelectric on February 07, 2013, 12:45:10 AM
Quote from: KEK Inc. on February 06, 2013, 01:10:07 PMOR-19 is the John Day highway.  It spurs from I-84 in Eastern Oregon and ends at US-26.  There's no [signed] OR-112 from my knowledge.  Of course, you could count the weird secondary ODOT numbering system that no commoner knows, but I don't even think there's a 112 there. 

You are correct, 11X highways are Columbia County, and there's only one secondary highway in Columbia County - highway 110, also known as Oregon route 47, the Mist-Clatskanie Highway.

Oregon highway 19 (not route 19) is the Fremont Highway, also known as Oregon route 31.  So you could say Oregon has two 19s but no 112...
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: Scott5114 on February 07, 2013, 12:54:08 AM
OK 19 is a fairly major east-west route through western and central Oklahoma. Among other places, it goes through two of Garvin County's larger towns, Lindsay and the county seat, Pauls Valley. At its east end it serves Ada, another county seat.

OK 112 is much less impressive, existing to connect Poteau to Arkansas.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: DTComposer on February 07, 2013, 01:03:49 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 06, 2013, 12:26:13 PM
CA-19 is Rosemead Blvd., a fairly major north-south arterial just east of LA proper.

CA-112 is one of those wonky numbers that's signed as another number (61 in this case) because California likes doing that kind of wacky shit.

CA-19 is also wonky, in that the Rosemead Boulevard (north of I-5) portion is actually CA-164, but signed as CA-19 for (supposed) continuity from the Lakewood Boulevard (south of I-5) portion. Pre-1964, both portions were one route that was signed as CA-19. Don't know why they split in two.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: kurumi on February 07, 2013, 01:23:23 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on February 06, 2013, 01:36:38 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 06, 2013, 12:26:13 PM


CA-112 is one of those wonky numbers that's signed as another number (61 in this case) because California likes doing that kind of wacky shit.

Some 112 signs exist now:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/csampang/sets/72157629231541792/

What date was your picture taken? Street View shows a CA 61 marker there instead (and cites an image date of April 2011). I remember seeing a 112 marker there 8 to 10 years ago.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: on_wisconsin on February 07, 2013, 01:30:05 AM
 Yes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Highway_19) (and yes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Highway_112)), in Wisconsin's case.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: tdindy88 on February 07, 2013, 01:49:57 AM
Indiana has SR 19, and according to Wikipedia part of it (a small part I believe) used to be part of US 112, so that covers both numbers right there. There was a brief SR 112 in the same area but that went away a long time ago. According to the Indiana Highway Ends site, both highways intersected each other in Elkhart.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: TheStranger on February 07, 2013, 11:35:38 AM
Quote from: kurumi on February 07, 2013, 01:23:23 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on February 06, 2013, 01:36:38 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 06, 2013, 12:26:13 PM


CA-112 is one of those wonky numbers that's signed as another number (61 in this case) because California likes doing that kind of wacky shit.

Some 112 signs exist now:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/csampang/sets/72157629231541792/

What date was your picture taken? Street View shows a CA 61 marker there instead (and cites an image date of April 2011). I remember seeing a 112 marker there 8 to 10 years ago.

March 2012.  There was at least one or two Route 61 trailblazers left in that area too.

Quote from: DTComposer on February 07, 2013, 01:03:49 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 06, 2013, 12:26:13 PM
CA-19 is Rosemead Blvd., a fairly major north-south arterial just east of LA proper.

CA-112 is one of those wonky numbers that's signed as another number (61 in this case) because California likes doing that kind of wacky shit.

CA-19 is also wonky, in that the Rosemead Boulevard (north of I-5) portion is actually CA-164, but signed as CA-19 for (supposed) continuity from the Lakewood Boulevard (south of I-5) portion. Pre-1964, both portions were one route that was signed as CA-19. Don't know why they split in two.

The Route 164 designation exists only because there was a planned freeway from I-605 north to I-210 that would have incorporated that north part of what has always been signed Route 19.  Only part of "164" that never was built was a short freeway spur between 605 and 19...but none of the existing north portion has ever been signed anything but Route 19 since 1934.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: sandiaman on February 07, 2013, 06:05:52 PM
Yes  and yes.  NM 19  is  a  shorty in Curry County  and  NM 112 is  in  Rio 
Arriba County.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: bugo on February 07, 2013, 06:19:51 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 07, 2013, 12:54:08 AM
OK 19 is a fairly major east-west route through western and central Oklahoma. Among other places, it goes through two of Garvin County's larger towns, Lindsay and the county seat, Pauls Valley. At its east end it serves Ada, another county seat.

OK 112 is much less impressive, existing to connect Poteau to Arkansas.

I bet OK 112 gets more traffic (without looking at the traffic count maps.)  One day, the segment of 112 between Poteau and Pocola will be 4 lanes, as it is the main road from Fort Smith and the bedroom community of Poteau.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: bugo on February 07, 2013, 06:26:33 PM
AR 19 used to be a major route in southwestern Arkansas until it was cut in two by US 371, which replaced the central portion of it between Magnolia and Prescott.  The parts that are left run from Magnolia to the Louisiana state line, and from Prescott to Narrows Dam at Lake Greeson, just north of Murfreesboro.  AR 112 is a fairly major route in northwest Arkansas.  In fact, AR 112 runs under part of Razorback Stadium.  Part of it is urban, while part is rural.  It mostly parallels I-540/US 62/US 71.

And to SPUI: yawn.  You know the number 13 is considered unlucky by the superstitious.  Your trolling is poor, and you need to give it up until you get better.  If you want to see how it's done, look up some old Tom From Ohio posts on MTR.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: route56 on February 07, 2013, 06:38:11 PM
K-19: Goes from US 50 near Belpre, heads straight north then, just before hitting Larned, turns east, ending at US 281 east of Seward.

I have exactly zero miles of K-19, but I have clinched the spur that connects K-19 to US-56 in Larned.

K-112: One of those K-spurs, this one from US 36 to Ebson, Jewell County, Kansas.

Found some history on K-112 through the KDOT "Rural Resolutions" page. The State did not build K-112. The State Highway commission agreed to maintain the highway if Jewell County built it to their design standards. The resolution authorizing the deal was issued in 1947, and K-112 was born in 1950.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on February 08, 2013, 08:16:09 AM
Indiana has a state highway 19 (that I have clinched, by the way).

Indiana used to have a US 112 and then later on had a SR 112, but both are long gone.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: DandyDan on February 08, 2013, 09:00:20 AM
Nebraska has both.  Nebraska State Highway 19 goes south from US 30 on the west side of Sidney to Colorado.  Previously, it went all the way north to South Dakota along most of what is now US 385.  Nebraska State Highway 112 goes south from US 77 south of Beatrice, overlaps N-8 for a ways, then turns south into Kansas.

For a useless fact of the day, MN 93 runs from MN 112 in Le Seuer to MN 19 in Henderson.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: hbelkins on February 08, 2013, 02:08:35 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on February 06, 2013, 08:13:42 PM
Virginia's original VA 112 was duplexed with, then supplanted by US 19.

Mapmikey

And, interestingly enough, US 19 crosses from Virginia into West Virginia at Bluefield. Near the spot where US 19 and US 460 reconnect northeast of downtown, US 19 intersects ... wait for it ... WV 112. In this case, WV 112 is the new number of what used to be WV 12, a route that was split into two segments. The segments were linked by US 460 and US 219 through Virginia.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: Tom958 on February 08, 2013, 09:54:34 PM
Georgia: Yes and yes (https://maps.google.com/?ll=32.59015,-83.22606&spn=0.005288,0.009645&t=m&z=17).
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: Dr Frankenstein on February 11, 2013, 12:14:30 PM
Yes to both, although our 19 (which is supposed to be an expressway per our numbering system) is kind of an oddity: It runs from Montreal to Laval, and almost all of its Montreal stretch is a slow, sometimes crowded boulevard with countless traffic signals. It only becomes a freeway just before leaving Montreal and ends shortly thereafter in Laval, just after A-440.

Hwy 112 is an important national highway that starts in Montreal and mostly runs through the Eastern Townships region (somewhat parallel with A-10 until Sherbrooke) until Frampton, south of Québec City. An 8 kilometres (5 miles) long stretch of it is closed because it fell in a hole. (http://route112.com/)
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: Road Hog on February 11, 2013, 12:38:34 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 06, 2013, 12:26:13 PM
CA-19 is Rosemead Blvd., a fairly major north-south arterial just east of LA proper.

CA-112 is one of those wonky numbers that's signed as another number (61 in this case) because California likes doing that kind of wacky shit.

You can take 61 and turn it upside down ....
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: hm insulators on February 13, 2013, 12:52:38 PM
Hawaii has a State Highway 19 (on the Big Island) connecting Hilo to Kona via Honokaa and Waimea.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: kphoger on February 13, 2013, 01:11:47 PM
Wow, Jake, can you believe the thread has gone this long?
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: Kacie Jane on February 13, 2013, 06:30:41 PM
I'm not, but I will be quite surprised if it makes it much further than 50 posts.  (Although I probably shouldn't be.)
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: mjb2002 on February 14, 2013, 07:19:25 PM
We only have an SC 19 - and that is located less than a mile from where I was born in Aiken. It extends to Trenton in Edgefield County. It's southern terminus is in New Ellenton.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: ftballfan on February 16, 2013, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on February 11, 2013, 12:14:30 PM
Yes to both, although our 19 (which is supposed to be an expressway per our numbering system) is kind of an oddity: It runs from Montreal to Laval, and almost all of its Montreal stretch is a slow, sometimes crowded boulevard with countless traffic signals. It only becomes a freeway just before leaving Montreal and ends shortly thereafter in Laval, just after A-440.

Hwy 112 is an important national highway that starts in Montreal and mostly runs through the Eastern Townships region (somewhat parallel with A-10 until Sherbrooke) until Frampton, south of Québec City. An 8 kilometres (5 miles) long stretch of it is closed because it fell in a hole. (http://route112.com/)
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=46.049289,-71.356716&spn=0.068029,0.169086&t=m&z=13&layer=c&cbll=46.049225,-71.389797&panoid=Yiq5Y24WYlABjUpxb04Vyw&cbp=12,48.29,,0,2.17 - Looks like Quebec has officially rerouted Route 112 as of September 2012 (no detour signs).

Michigan has an M-19 running through the Thumb area. Michigan has not had an M-112 for years, and US-112 also ran through MI
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: Dr Frankenstein on February 18, 2013, 02:26:47 PM
There were still many detour banners up on the assemblies when I traveled it last month, and the MTQ's GIS (either DDS or Atlas des transports) doesn't reflect Google's 112 routing. Chemin de Vimy is still secret route 83434.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: webfil on February 18, 2013, 03:11:47 PM
... and Vimy Ridge Road is the detour for light vehicle traffic only. From 165, all trucks MUST use a 40-something kilometre detour via 112 east, 267 south (via downtown Thetford), chemin du Barrage-Allard in Adstock, 6e Rang in Disraëli and 263.

The actual detours may look permanent, but keep in mind that the reconstruction will take quite a long time ; the road will have to go through mining residues (only routing possible) and the provincial Commission for Health & Security at Work does not like the idea of workers killing themselves slowly as digging through old asbestos dust (yes, that "Mines" in Thetford Mines is for asbestos mines)...
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: Billy F 1988 on February 19, 2013, 02:20:10 AM
No MT 112, but the state does have 19. It is a short leg route in Fergus County that goes from Roy to Grass Range. Technically, MT 19 doesn't go to Grass Range, but ends north of the township at the US 87/MT 200 junction. Though Google Maps doesn't show Roy, MT, it is approximately before the US 191 junction.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: Eth on February 19, 2013, 07:09:37 PM
Georgia does indeed have a SR 19 in addition to US 19. SR 19 spends most of its time concurrent with US 41, 80, and 23. Also, US 41 is concurrent with both US 19 and SR 19 about 25 miles apart, because Georgia.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: kphoger on February 19, 2013, 07:13:17 PM
The District of Columbia has neither a 19 nor a 112.
Any other ways we can bump this thread up to 60 replies?
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: kphoger on February 19, 2013, 07:14:48 PM
Quote from: Eth on February 19, 2013, 07:09:37 PM
because Georgia.

I am going to claim this as a reason for a lot of things in the near future.  Thank you for that!
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: NE2 on February 19, 2013, 07:48:13 PM
Manhattan has 19th Street and 112th Street.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: formulanone on February 19, 2013, 08:15:53 PM
Florida has SR 112 and SR 19, but we knew that and nobody else mentioned it until now (in this thread, that is). Or maybe they just expressed it in different words.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: theline on February 19, 2013, 08:37:22 PM
Quote from: NE2 on February 19, 2013, 07:48:13 PM
Manhattan has 19th Street and 112th Street.

:clap: And the reply count climbs.
Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 28, 2013, 01:38:41 PM
Quote from: formulanone on February 19, 2013, 08:15:53 PM
Florida has SR 112 and SR 19, but we knew that and nobody else mentioned it until now (in this thread, that is). Or maybe they just expressed it in different words.
Yes, that was me:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=8688.msg202023#msg202023

Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: Duke87 on March 01, 2013, 09:10:22 PM
Quote from: NE2 on February 19, 2013, 07:48:13 PM
Manhattan has 19th Street and 112th Street.

Queens has 19th Street, 19th Avenue, 19th Road, 19th Drive, 112th Street, 112th Place, 112th Avenue, 112th Road.... and Beach 112th Street.

Brooklyn has 19th Street, 19th Avenue, West 19th Street, East 19th Street, and Bay 19th Street, but nothing numbered 112.

Number of pairs of the aforementioned streets that intersect: 0


It is an eternal debate whether Brooklyn or Queens does a better job at trolling the concept of street numbering.





Title: Re: State highway 19 (or, if that doesn't exist, 112)
Post by: Urban Prairie Schooner on March 01, 2013, 09:30:48 PM
LA 19 commences at US 61 (Scenic Hwy) in the Scotlandville neighborhood in Baton Rouge and proceeds on a due north-northeast track via Baker, Zachary, Slaughter, Ethel, Wilson, and Norwood to the MS border. The road parallels a disused (north of Baker, at least) CN rail spur from BR to Slaughter and the closed Gloster Southern RR north into Mississippi.

LA 112 commences at US 171/190 east of DeRidder and proceeds east to Elizabeth, then north to Hineston, then east-southeast to Forest Hill, then east to Lecompte to terminate at US 71/167.