There can only possibly be a handful of these around the country. What I just discovered: The western terminus of WV 7 is mere feet from OH 7. For all intents and purposes, they intersect, despite being different roads. So, yeah, where else does this possibly happen?
There's the US-95 in California/Arizona 95 mess and the US-89 in Idaho/Wyoming 89 mess, but in terms of just state highways I can't think of anything.
Quote from: Steve on March 03, 2013, 03:55:00 PM
There can only possibly be a handful of these around the country. What I just discovered: The western terminus of WV 7 is mere feet from OH 7. For all intents and purposes, they intersect, despite being different roads. So, yeah, where else does this possibly happen?
I-295 and D.C. 295 in Southeast Washington would seem to qualify, though neither are state routes (since D.C. is not a state and I-295 is not a state route either).
Not exactly the same number, but OR-39 intersects with CA-161 and CA-139 at the CA/OR border.
Are we counting the route number staying the same at the state line, such as CT Route 8 becoming MA 8 and eventually VT Route 8?
Just about every state numbered route in New England that crosses a state boundary and retains state maintenance. Also reciprocal in most cases with NY as well, the only exceptions being VT 9/ NY 7, and those roads that become NY county routes. If you mean two unrelated roads with the same number (almost ) intersecting, then NH 113 and ME 113 intersect US 302 about 3 miles apart in Conway, NH and Fryeburg, ME.
Connecticut Route 145 had a three-way intersection (i.e. with itself) for a few decades starting in 1932. I'd love to see how that was signed.
Washington 100 has a three way intersection with itself- it's unsigned.
I seem to remember a T intersection on the state line of two same-numbered routes. Can't think of where, however.
It's probably rare enough where two same-numbered, yet different classifications of roads intersect.
http://goo.gl/maps/s0YQr
Hwy 548 intersects itself at a T intersection on St. Joseph's Island east of Sault Ste. Marie.
http://goo.gl/maps/rFgbF
QC 132 does a big loop around the Gaspesie and then ends at itself near Mont-Joli.
But that's the same route, not two routes with the same number.
OK 63A has 3 ends, OK 77S has 4. That means the routes intersect themselves.
There are plenty of state highways that retain their state number in the next state.
I can name several of those.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on March 03, 2013, 09:42:09 PM
There are plenty of state highways that retain their state number in the next state.
I can name several of those.
I assumed those didn't count for this thread because the OP referred to situations involving "different roads."
They don't quite intersect, nor are they both state routes, but NH 4 in Dover is only a few miles from US 4 in Durham.
I've never understood why NH numbered this road route 4. Sure, it does connect to Maine's route 4, but it's hardly a direct through route, especially considering the ME 236 multiplex right across the border and the fact that it begins, barely signed, on a side street in Dover.
Quote from: Stalin on March 03, 2013, 09:32:22 PM
OK 63A has 3 ends, OK 77S has 4. That means the routes intersect themselves.
OK 77D has 3 ends as well.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on March 03, 2013, 05:28:11 PM
Just about every state numbered route in New England that crosses a state boundary and retains state maintenance. Also reciprocal in most cases with NY as well, the only exceptions being VT 9/ NY 7, and those roads that become NY county routes. If you mean two unrelated roads with the same number (almost ) intersecting, then NH 113 and ME 113 intersect US 302 about 3 miles apart in Conway, NH and Fryeburg, ME.
If you include the ferries:
-NY 373 becomes a city street in Burlington, VT
-NY 314 ends at a T intersection with VT 314
IL-172 used to be a 'T' shaped route with a leg to Prophetstown. I was cut back to an 'L' sometime in the 1970s.
I vaguely recall that when Interstate 88 was new in Illinois, it intersected Illinois Route 88 in Rock Falls. This was before they renamed it Illinois Route 40. Did they simultaneously exist? I seem to recall seeing an IL 88 sign while on I-88.
What about NJ440-NY440-NJ440, would that count, using two seperate bridges to link staten island to NJ.
There has been discussion elsewhere about VDOT's practice of assigning one route number to an assortment of state-maintained roads and streets on several of its college and university campuses (which obviously intersect each other), including these:
Va. 302 - University of Virginia
Va. 303 - VMI
Va. 314 - Virginia Tech
See the excellent Virginia Highways Project (http://www.vahighways.com/) for more. Especially on this page (http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/va301-320.htm).
Quote from: DandyDan on March 04, 2013, 04:19:44 PM
I vaguely recall that when Interstate 88 was new in Illinois, it intersected Illinois Route 88 in Rock Falls. This was before they renamed it Illinois Route 40. Did they simultaneously exist? I seem to recall seeing an IL 88 sign while on I-88.
Yes, they simultaneously existed when I-88(west) was designated in the late 1980s until IL88 was changed to IL40 in the early 1990s
Quote from: cpzilliacus on March 04, 2013, 04:49:15 PM
There has been discussion elsewhere about VDOT's practice of assigning one route number to an assortment of state-maintained roads and streets on several of its college and university campuses (which obviously intersect each other), including these:
Va. 302 - University of Virginia
Va. 303 - VMI
Va. 314 - Virginia Tech
See the excellent Virginia Highways Project (http://www.vahighways.com/) for more. Especially on this page (http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/va301-320.htm).
While it is true Virginia has plenty of these, most are not posted well enough to qualify...
Right off the top of my head, the only ones I know are posted in all directions at some intersections are VA 319, VA 358, and VA 376.
From 1933 to 1966, Virginia had a regular state highway that looped onto itself. I don't know how it was posted, but here is a mapscan showing it. Even weirder is that in 1966, VA 169 was extended north and the loop remained in the primary system. I have not found a county map that shows what the loop became numbered as (169Y?):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fmapscans%2F169_1936.jpg&hash=4ae17ca0b1c6f849f88c56e6374e03f225cdba9c) (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fmapscans%2F169_1968.jpg&hash=f5f2e53ac07bcb6660105fe7ad5eb478bdbda3f8)
Mapmikey
Co-curator Virginia Highways Project
www.vahighways.com
Quote from: cpzilliacus on March 04, 2013, 04:49:15 PM
There has been discussion elsewhere about VDOT's practice of assigning one route number to an assortment of state-maintained roads and streets on several of its college and university campuses (which obviously intersect each other), including these:
Va. 302 - University of Virginia
Va. 303 - VMI
Va. 314 - Virginia Tech
See the excellent Virginia Highways Project (http://www.vahighways.com/) for more. Especially on this page (http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/va301-320.htm).
Arkansas does the same thing.
GMSV covers VA 319 so here is an example of all roads posted as 319:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=petersburg,+va&hl=en&ll=37.203842,-77.450373&spn=0.000034,0.02665&sll=37.6,-95.665&sspn=53.001548,109.160156&t=h&hnear=Petersburg,+Virginia&z=16&layer=c&cbll=37.203834,-77.450473&panoid=YmuXMVU7zrdVZrWyA2ZPaw&cbp=12,233.87,,0,0.94
also VA 376:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=fairfax,+va&hl=en&ll=38.834908,-77.235011&spn=0.000033,0.02665&sll=38.115583,-78.988502&sspn=0.013067,0.02665&t=h&hnear=Fairfax,+Virginia&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.834908,-77.235011&panoid=AJ2_eNK296x3wuj1AqASNA&cbp=12,118.9,,0,0
here is VA 358:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Ferrors%2F358error.jpg&hash=2aad00a1c31ca6679bd9c149240e8e6f88fd48c5)
Quote from: Steve on March 03, 2013, 03:55:00 PM
There can only possibly be a handful of these around the country. What I just discovered: The western terminus of WV 7 is mere feet from OH 7. For all intents and purposes, they intersect, despite being different roads. So, yeah, where else does this possibly happen?
is WV-7 is signed past the WV-2 junction? it is shown on the map as a multiplex, but is there any field signage of the sort?
Norway route 820 loops around to intersect itself.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/blog/photos/051225.jpg)
Maine state highway 102 does the same thing on Mount Desert Island, but there isn't as elaborate of a sign.
How about a thread of state roads that don't intersect, like Loop 275 in Austin, and all these roads with "gaps"
Quote from: texaskdog on March 05, 2013, 01:53:30 PM
How about a thread of state roads that don't intersect, like Loop 275 in Austin, and all these roads with "gaps"
Penna Turnpike and I-95 don't intersect, unless you're Evel Knievel.
OK 66 was once a loop off of US 66 in Wellston. OK 66/77 once existed north of OKC. OK 270 almost meets US 270 north of Shawnee. US 59 comes within a couple of miles from the paralleling AR 59 in Siloam Springs. AR 102 used to intersect itself in Centerton until a few years ago.
Not one number crossing state lines, not a state route intersecting a US route, not even a state route that loops back on itself. Only two distinct state highways at (or within feet of) a border.
So..... Does Nuevo León state highway 1 count? It is the highway from Nuevo Laredo to Anáhuac (and further south to Monterrey), yet it is also the highway from Colombia to a point between the two. Here is their intersection. (http://goo.gl/maps/nKeAq)
Quote from: kphoger on March 05, 2013, 08:17:49 PM
So..... Does Nuevo León state highway 1 count? It is the highway from Nuevo Laredo to Anáhuac (and further south to Monterrey), yet it is also the highway from Colombia to a point between the two. Here is their intersection. (http://goo.gl/maps/nKeAq)
Based on what I've seen in Mexico, every route has the same number...
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 05, 2013, 01:37:49 PM
Penna Turnpike and I-95 don't intersect, unless you're Evel Knievel.
Though the PTC and PennDOT are ever-so-
s-l-o-w-l-y remediating that (PTC project Web site here (http://www.paturnpikei95.com/)).
Going back to Steve's original topic...
http://www.millenniumhwy.net/2007_late_summer_day_3/2007_late_summer_day_3-Pages/Image144.html
http://www.millenniumhwy.net/2007_late_summer_day_3/2007_late_summer_day_3-Pages/Image145.html
http://www.millenniumhwy.net/2007_late_summer_day_3/2007_late_summer_day_3-Pages/Image147.html
http://www.millenniumhwy.net/2009_Milford_PA_Day_4/Pages/319.html
Quote from: Steve on March 06, 2013, 12:18:14 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 05, 2013, 08:17:49 PM
So..... Does Nuevo León state highway 1 count? It is the highway from Nuevo Laredo to Anáhuac (and further south to Monterrey), yet it is also the highway from Colombia to a point between the two. Here is their intersection. (http://goo.gl/maps/nKeAq)
Based on what I've seen in Mexico, every route has the same number...
It's shown that way on pretty much every map of the area I've seen. And I know for a fact the short end of the T is signed as NL-1 at Colombia, and that the long one is signed as NL-1 at Monterrey. The only segment I have doubts about is this one (http://goo.gl/maps/JimiT), since the only photo of it I can find shows an erroneous sign for federal highway 2. On the SCT list (http://dgst.sct.gob.mx/fileadmin/Viales_2011/19_NUEVO_LEON.pdf), it's referred to as NL-001-TAM, whereas the other two segments are referred to simply as NL-001. Incidentally, the SCT list (http://dgst.sct.gob.mx/fileadmin/Viales_2011/28_TAMAULIPAS.pdf) refers to the same highway on the Tamaulipas side of the state line as NL-001-TAM as well, rather than TAM-001 or TAM-001-NL as one might expect.
Quote from: Steve on March 06, 2013, 12:18:14 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 05, 2013, 08:17:49 PM
So..... Does Nuevo León state highway 1 count? It is the highway from Nuevo Laredo to Anáhuac (and further south to Monterrey), yet it is also the highway from Colombia to a point between the two. Here is their intersection. (http://goo.gl/maps/nKeAq)
Based on what I've seen in Mexico, every route has the same number...
And as we learned about Canada from South Park they have only one road "follow the only road"