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Title: A route with no ends
Post by: Alps on March 07, 2013, 09:10:39 PM
As I'm writing my Ohio 710 page, I notice that the first shield leaving OH 161 is for North 710. Well, the route runs mostly east/west, but the major issue is that the other end of 710 faces south. Anyway, I get to the other end, and on Cleveland Avenue NB I find a milepost that says "710 N" on it. What this basically tells me is that OH 710 NB has no ends - and OH 710 SB has two ends. Or just maybe ODOT should sign the whole thing east/west. (:
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: NE2 on March 07, 2013, 09:26:23 PM
US 321.
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: corco on March 07, 2013, 09:29:10 PM
US 101
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 07, 2013, 09:56:00 PM
I-495 beltway
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: route29 on March 07, 2013, 09:58:34 PM
Alabama Hwy 210 :D
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: nexus73 on March 07, 2013, 10:00:23 PM
Quote from: corco on March 07, 2013, 09:29:10 PM
US 101

101 ends on the north at Olympia and on the south in LA.  Is there some definition of "end" I am missing?

Rick
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: corco on March 07, 2013, 10:11:21 PM
Both ends are signed as "101 North"
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: Alps on March 07, 2013, 11:10:30 PM
Wasn't really going for a full listing, hence the regional post. Also, OH 710 is all of 4 miles long, which is a very short distance to change directions twice. I think it actually doesn't change directions at all, just that the milepost signs were switched at the "north" end for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: nexus73 on March 08, 2013, 12:13:32 PM
Quote from: corco on March 07, 2013, 10:11:21 PM
Both ends are signed as "101 North"

That's due to 101 curving around the Olympic Peninsula.

Rick
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: corco on March 08, 2013, 12:25:22 PM
No way
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: theline on March 08, 2013, 01:29:51 PM
Way. See US Ends (http://www.usends.com/00-09/101/101.html) for the whole story, and some good pictures.

QuoteIt can cause a lot of confusion to use a single highway number for a road that turns around and heads the opposite direction for a significant distance - as US 101 does in the Olympic Peninsula. David Barts informs me that, until the 1990s, Olympia-bound traffic was signed "North" along the entire route, while the opposite direction was signed "South"... even the segment that heads north from Olympia for nearly 100 miles. Of course that was perplexing to drivers, so now US 101 is signed "North" from Olympia to WA hwy. 20 at Discovery Bay, then "West" from there to WA 113 at Sappho, and then "South" through Aberdeen and into Oregon. (At least that's what I've gathered from what I can make out on SRweb [WA DoT's web-based state route viewer]. But signage doesn't appear to be 100% consistent, and even if it was, it would still be a pretty tricky situation in my opinion.) But let's move on, shall we, to photos of the "northern southern" terminus of US 101 in Washington.
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: formulanone on March 08, 2013, 03:59:39 PM
Quote from: route29 on March 07, 2013, 09:58:34 PM
Alabama Hwy 210 :D

Good one, I don't think any cardinal directions are posted with that one...and a colossal amount of sine salads along that route, too.

Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: tvketchum on March 08, 2013, 05:52:03 PM
M-185


Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: NE2 on March 08, 2013, 06:15:39 PM
This thread (and the three state borders one) is a veritable honeytrap for people who don't read the first post.
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: Brandon on March 09, 2013, 10:39:14 AM
Quote from: tvketchum on March 08, 2013, 05:52:03 PM
M-185

I think we have our winner.  It has no ending and no beginning.  The mobius loop of highways.  :bigass:
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: vdeane on March 09, 2013, 12:24:25 PM
Routes in Alanland both end and don't end.
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: tidecat on April 07, 2013, 10:00:07 PM
KY 4 (New Circle Road)
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: NE2 on April 07, 2013, 10:26:42 PM
AL BAA (Goat Path)
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: US71 on April 08, 2013, 08:30:53 AM
Many Texas Loop Routes have no end, like Loop 286 at Paris and Loop 149 at Carthage.

Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: ShawnP on April 08, 2013, 12:18:37 PM
A route with no ends.

Is this what happens Road Geeks get into writing music lyrics?
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: US71 on April 08, 2013, 12:25:55 PM
Quote from: ShawnP on April 08, 2013, 12:18:37 PM
A route with no ends.

Is this what happens Road Geeks get into writing music lyrics?

Yes, it goes on and on, my friends  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: agentsteel53 on April 08, 2013, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 09, 2013, 12:24:25 PM
Routes in Alanland both end and don't end.

Alan Belt Route 0 (a one-way road between East Alan Capital and East Alan Lowercase) has a west terminus and two north termini, but no ends and sometimes it has a beginning but only when it is not numbered 0 due to a Google Maps error.
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: hbelkins on April 08, 2013, 06:05:18 PM
Quote from: ShawnP on April 08, 2013, 12:18:37 PM
A route with no ends.

Is this what happens Road Geeks get into writing music lyrics?

I drove through the desert on a route with no ends...
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: ShawnP on April 09, 2013, 02:27:23 PM
Standing on a route with no ends in Winslow, Arizona.

Move over Eagles I'm gonna hit it big ehhhhhh?
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: kphoger on April 09, 2013, 03:44:19 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 08, 2013, 06:05:18 PM
Quote from: ShawnP on April 08, 2013, 12:18:37 PM
A route with no ends.

Is this what happens Road Geeks get into writing music lyrics?

I drove through the desert on a route with no ends...

I read that post about four hours ago, and I just realized now that I've had the song stuck in my head ever since then.  :pan:
Title: Re: A route with no ends
Post by: vtk on April 09, 2013, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: Steve on March 07, 2013, 09:10:39 PM
As I'm writing my Ohio 710 page, I notice that the first shield leaving OH 161 is for North 710. Well, the route runs mostly east/west, but the major issue is that the other end of 710 faces south. Anyway, I get to the other end, and on Cleveland Avenue NB I find a milepost that says "710 N" on it. What this basically tells me is that OH 710 NB has no ends - and OH 710 SB has two ends. Or just maybe ODOT should sign the whole thing east/west. (:

I think ODOT shouldn't sign the route at all.  Change it to 161C internally and take all the signs down.  I'd say abolish the route completely, but it's probably there for a reason, that reason having something to do with the Budweiser brewery.  Like all cities in Ohio, Columbus is responsible for routine maintenance of all non-Interstate state highways in its borders, but I suspect cities get state funding to do so in an amount which is based on in-city highway mileage, so decommissioning OH 710 would interfere with that.  But as far as I can tell, the signage of this screwball route is of no benefit to the public.