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Title: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: cpzilliacus on March 19, 2013, 12:42:30 AM
D.C.'s breezewood non-connection between D.C. 295 (Kenilworth Avenue/Anacostia Freeway) was remediated in 2012, and D.C. DOT (DDOT) has recently installed signage along southbound D.C. 295:

D.C. 295 southbound approaching Benning Road. N.E.:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.toward.com%2Fcpz%2Fdsc01721web.jpg&hash=f5aac3da0d10588cdc5feaf73711484539746c5c)

D.C. 295 southbound approaching River Terrace, N.E.:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.toward.com%2Fcpz%2Fdsc01722web.jpg&hash=a3a724d0640e0801b5dde2f0d29cacdfc2cfa878)

D.C. 295 southbound approaching East Capitol Street:

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D.C. 295 southbound between East Capitol Street and Pennsylvania Avenue, S.E.:

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D.C. 295 southbound approaching Pennsylvania Avenue, S.E.:

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Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: NE2 on March 19, 2013, 12:56:21 AM
E for effort.
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: hbelkins on March 19, 2013, 10:45:51 AM
I like Ohio's method of mounting the standalone route marker above the guide sign much, much better.
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: amroad17 on March 19, 2013, 10:59:56 AM
These "additions" make the signs look cluttered.  Plus, they are a different size.  It just does not make for a good "professional" sign.
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: froggie on March 19, 2013, 11:01:46 AM
QuoteI like Ohio's method of mounting the standalone route marker above the guide sign much, much better.

I don't.  It's as fugly as this DDOT attempt.
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: cu2010 on March 19, 2013, 11:38:00 AM
Did DDOT employ five-year-olds to design signs or something?
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 19, 2013, 12:08:26 PM
wow.  awesome '61 spec shields.

the layout could use some help, but the shields themselves look a lot nicer than the 295s.
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: cpzilliacus on March 19, 2013, 06:06:15 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on March 19, 2013, 10:59:56 AM
These "additions" make the signs look cluttered.  Plus, they are a different size.  It just does not make for a good "professional" sign.

Agreed. 

I think that this may be an interim "patch" job - perhaps DDOT is planning on a larger-scale replacement effort in this corridor, though I am not certain about that.
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: cpzilliacus on March 19, 2013, 06:08:42 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 19, 2013, 12:08:26 PM
wow.  awesome '61 spec shields.

Wonder if they could be leftover I-95 shields that have been sitting in a DDOT warehouse since the 1960's or 1970's?

Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 19, 2013, 12:08:26 PM
the layout could use some help, but the shields themselves look a lot nicer than the 295s.

The 295 shields and the panels they are mounted on may date to the 1970's. 
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 19, 2013, 06:19:17 PM
one way to help tell: what standard of reflectivity?  if they've got the greenish engineer-grade Silver Scotchlite, then the reflective material was made before 1979.  that is when 3M changed from off-white to pure white.
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: kj3400 on March 19, 2013, 06:25:30 PM
I'm a little confused. How exactly does 295 connect to I-395? via I-695 (aka the freeway going across the 11th st bridge)?
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: 1995hoo on March 19, 2013, 07:30:15 PM
Quote from: kj3400 on March 19, 2013, 06:25:30 PM
I'm a little confused. How exactly does 295 connect to I-395? via I-695 (aka the freeway going across the 11th st bridge)?

Correct. It's a new connection within the past year due to the new ramps at said bridge.
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: Molandfreak on March 19, 2013, 08:06:16 PM
So, has I-395 north to New York Avenue been decommissioned?
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: cpzilliacus on March 19, 2013, 08:15:31 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on March 19, 2013, 08:06:16 PM
So, has I-395 north to New York Avenue been decommissioned?

No. 

Plenty of traffic that uses the Third Street Tunnel under the National Mall  (a very expensive cut-and-cover improvement that was under construction well before demands that D.C. cancel its unbuilt freeway network and divert the money to Metrorail construction were met).
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: cpzilliacus on March 19, 2013, 08:17:25 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 19, 2013, 06:19:17 PM
one way to help tell: what standard of reflectivity?  if they've got the greenish engineer-grade Silver Scotchlite, then the reflective material was made before 1979.  that is when 3M changed from off-white to pure white.

I will look when and if I get a chance, though I am not an expert at such things.

Would a close-up photograph posted here help to inform the discussion?
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: Molandfreak on March 19, 2013, 08:22:14 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on March 19, 2013, 08:17:25 PM
Would a close-up photograph posted here help to inform the discussion?
Yes, please!  ;-)
Title: Re: I-395 shields added on D.C. 295
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 19, 2013, 08:24:58 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on March 19, 2013, 08:17:25 PM

Would a close-up photograph posted here help to inform the discussion?

definitely.  go to town with a zoom lens.