Just wondering if anyone else was into traffic signals? That's actually how i originally found AARoads, I was searching for Delaware traffic signal pics.
I'm very into them. I especially like weird traffic signal intersections.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=limq5BlxDno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=limq5BlxDno)
Be well,
Bryant
Nice...here's SR 9 at SR 524 in Maltby (courtesy of Sotosoroto)
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Its a giant metal tube...
While I like to see different varieties when traveling, I am not so thrilled with them I have to sit through five out of every seven I come to - especially when there's no one waiting for the light to change on the cross street, and there's no indication of attempting coordination.
MoDOT has also used a road spanning tube for signals a few times in the St. Louis area, but it's not as thick as the one in the previous picture. Here are two in a row on Rte N north of downtown Ferguson:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=38.751874,-90.308905&spn=0,359.917603&z=15&layer=c&cbll=38.751704,-90.308873&panoid=sKaSnozFp3NgIKGUhVmeHw&cbp=12,353.77,,0,0.92 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=38.751874,-90.308905&spn=0,359.917603&z=15&layer=c&cbll=38.751704,-90.308873&panoid=sKaSnozFp3NgIKGUhVmeHw&cbp=12,353.77,,0,0.92)
There were some more on MO 340 east of I-170, but MoDOT appears to have replaced them.
Quote from: ComputerGuyNice...here's SR 9 at SR 524 in Maltby (courtesy of Sotosoroto)
Man, that's a big mast arm. :wow:
Quote from: Revive 755MoDOT has also used a road spanning tube for signals a few times in the St. Louis area, but it's not as thick as the one in the previous picture. Here are two in a row on Rte N north of downtown Ferguson:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=38.751874,-90.308905&spn=0,359.917603&z=15&layer=c&cbll=38.751704,-90.308873&panoid=sKaSnozFp3NgIKGUhVmeHw&cbp=12,353.77,,0,0.92
I've seen mast arms similar to those along SR 54 (Floy Farr Parkway) in Peachtree City, Ga. There are about two or three in this video I have posted below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OouxqSnc9ncBe well,
Bryant
When I was about 5 years old I had the exact configuration of every traffic signal that we drove through on at least a semi-regular basis memorized. I could tell you how many lights were facing each direction, and how they were arranged. It was quite an obsession of mine as a kid.
I used to draw traffic signals. I even got crazy and came up with the idea of signals that had green, yellow, red, blue, and purple lights. Green, yellow, and red meant exactly what they really do. The blue light would go on if the next signal down the road was out of commission due to a power failure. The purple light would go on if the next signal down the road had power, but was not functioning as a full light and only flashing (for any reason, malfunction or design).
I mostly stopped doing this when I switched to drawing maps instead.
The most insane part: I used to go to the bathroom with a flashlight, a red plastic cup, a yellow plastic cup, and a green plastic cup. I'd leave the light off and as I was sitting there, I'd periodically shine the flashlight in the cups to simulate the operation of a traffic light. The upstairs bathroom at our house at the time didn't have any windows, so leaving the light off and closing the door ensured darkness even during the day - necessary for this to really work. I was forced to abandon this practice at age 8 when we moved and all three bathrooms at our new house had a window and, thus, sunlight.
In a fun sort of full circle, last summer when I was working as an intern for the city of Stamford, one of the tasks I was given was to go around town and take pictures of every traffic signal, so that the engineering department would have a visual library of what condition they were all in. The same signals that I could tell you all about as a kid.
Well, at least the same intersections. When I was a kid, those lights all still used incandescent lamps. In the late 90's, the city replaced most of the major ones with LED signals. The configurations generally weren't changed, but the signal heads were - so it wasn't exactly the same signals, but close enough.
It's great to see some other signal fans in here. Thanks for sharing pics and videos.
^^ No problem. :nod:
Be well,
Bryant
Quote from: Duke87
In a fun sort of full circle, last summer when I was working as an intern for the city of Stamford, one of the tasks I was given was to go around town and take pictures of every traffic signal, so that the engineering department would have a visual library of what condition they were all in. The same signals that I could tell you all about as a kid.
I know MoDOT also keeps a photographic inventory, ideally getting all the signal heads for one approach and any dectors in the photo. It gets kind of interesting when the intersections get complicated like this one on MO 30 - which MoDOT took over more responsibilities for back in the early years of the decade:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=38.605029,-90.222854&spn=0,359.994507&z=18&layer=c&cbll=38.604937,-90.223036&panoid=b7JmsOTE2eJWaS-Qih1Wng&cbp=12,52.58,,0,4.03
This next intersection is pretty complex, too. It's located in East Point, Georgia at the intersection of Washington Road, Ben Hill Road, Cloverhurst Drive, Taylor Avenue and LaRose Street.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Taylor+Avenue,+East+Point,+Ga&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=32.80241,78.75&ie=UTF8&ll=33.673534,-84.454483&spn=0.008411,0.019226&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.673536,-84.454971&panoid=0-430-IeIZ_OA8EQupwJNw&cbp=12,88.46,,0,5.9 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Taylor+Avenue,+East+Point,+Ga&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=32.80241,78.75&ie=UTF8&ll=33.673534,-84.454483&spn=0.008411,0.019226&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.673536,-84.454971&panoid=0-430-IeIZ_OA8EQupwJNw&cbp=12,88.46,,0,5.9)
Be well,
Bryant
Not complex, but a rather "retro" signal:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=paseo+%26+linwood,+Kansas+city,+mo&sll=39.102774,-94.562781&sspn=0.009874,0.016437&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=39.068526,-94.566798&panoid=R47D-GrQwd2coElI161Ryw&cbp=12,198.2,,0,5 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=paseo+%26+linwood,+Kansas+city,+mo&sll=39.102774,-94.562781&sspn=0.009874,0.016437&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=39.068526,-94.566798&panoid=R47D-GrQwd2coElI161Ryw&cbp=12,198.2,,0,5)
Definitely a signal fan here, always looking for the oldies in the Sunshine State.
Quote from: US71Not complex, but a rather "retro" signal:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=paseo+%26+linwood,+Kansas+city,+mo&sll=39.102774,-94.562781&sspn=0.009874,0.016437&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=39.068526,-94.566798&panoid=R47D-GrQwd2coElI161Ryw&cbp=12,198.2,,0,5
Wow! :wow: Does it still work?
Be well,
Bryant
Yay!!!!!! Another signal fan in the forum!! Look on my picasa page in my signature. I have loads of photos of signals aswell as some in my collection :cool: If you guys have any questions on traffic signals, ask me :cool:
-i
Yes, it still works!
I have other signals on my Flickr pages:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/us_71/2285229448/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/us_71/2285229448/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/us_71/2896084813/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/us_71/2896084813/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/us_71/3219999181/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/us_71/3219999181/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/us_71/3111241213/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/us_71/3111241213/)
Yeah for some reason I'm obsessed with taking pictures of every signal on my route when I'm roadgeeking. I do have some of my photo signals scattered throughout my photobucket. http://s622.photobucket.com/albums/tt304/24DIDNOTWIN/ (http://s622.photobucket.com/albums/tt304/24DIDNOTWIN/)
Re: US71's most recent post
Very cool. :cool:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMuc6lgQLYk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMuc6lgQLYk)
Be well,
Bryant
41st Street SPUI signal: April 2008 by me
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Here is a signal in Del Rio, Tx
I can also tell you what brand every traffic signal is :D
Check out this...
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/miscia/trafficsig.html (http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/miscia/trafficsig.html)
Re: BigMatt's post from Del Rio, TX
That left turn signal must have double red arrows, due to the extra bulb on the left side of the signal.
Be well,
Bryant
That site is a bit dated: Ft Smith has flashing yellow arrow signals now.
QuoteRe: BigMatt's post from Del Rio, TX
That left turn signal must have double red arrows, due to the extra bulb on the left side of the signal.
If I'm correct, going from left to right - solid red, solid yellow, green left arrow that can change to yellow left arrow, solid green.
QuoteDefinitely a signal fan here, always looking for the oldies in the Sunshine State.
There are a few decent assemblies left on the side streets of Tampa.
I was shocked to find a classic signal in Quincy. Its on the street one block south of U.S. 90. In fact several of the signals there predate the current and even the 1990s standards.
Traffic signals were one of my first interests in roadding. I knew where they all were in my hometown growing up, and sadly they are all replaced with horrible McCain signals now.
I have two signals, both purchased from the city of Mobile. One is a 3-" Crouse Hinds and the other a 30" Eagle. There is a type of signal I have found in a few places in the south with "Traffic Signal Corporation" scribed on them. If I could ever get one of those, I may consider my signal collection complete.
To Bryant, this is a great assembly: http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt24/Bryant5493/PICT0005.jpg (http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt24/Bryant5493/PICT0005.jpg)
As Ian may know from perusing the Delaware Highways pages, I tend to photograph signalized intersections quite often, especially when they are in my local areas of interest. Having grown up in Delaware, and following signals from early childhood on, I have made it a point to try to document the remaining old Eagle signals before they succumb to McCain'dom. Unfortunately many were already replaced by the time digital cameras came of age, but like Bryant, I do have some video of former assemblies from the 1990's collecting dust.
I certainly do appreciate all of the picture taking you've done across Delaware. I've spent countless hours looking at the pics from across the state.
What I would like to do at some point is to create a traffic signal primer similar to the Clearview vs. Highway Gothic primer and the incomplete Ramp Meters primer. More specifically I would like a gallery showing the various signal styles used across the country that include their manufacturer name. I have my own set of nicknames for them, like "bubble backs" to describe the McCain assemblies that are so pervasive across the country.
Hey Alex,
I hate to break it to ya, but the "bubble back" signals are not McCains. They are actually Eagle Mark IV signals. These are what a McCain signal looks like:
http://www.interstate-guide.com/images401/i-495_ny_et_10.jpg (http://www.interstate-guide.com/images401/i-495_ny_et_10.jpg)
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/NewYorkTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5292758328944186850 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/NewYorkTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5292758328944186850)
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/MarylandTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5292856139901137026 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/MarylandTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5292856139901137026)
and the most accurate:
http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn224/tctkid/Which%20Signal%20Brand%20Is%20Which/?action=view¤t=IMG_1862.jpg (http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn224/tctkid/Which%20Signal%20Brand%20Is%20Which/?action=view¤t=IMG_1862.jpg)
Any signal brand information or questions? View here on my Photobucket account:
http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn224/tctkid/Which%20Signal%20Brand%20Is%20Which/ (http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn224/tctkid/Which%20Signal%20Brand%20Is%20Which/)
This could really help!
-Ian
Wow, I have been misled on this for years now. A fellow road and signal geek told me those were McCains a long time ago, and I have been referring to them ever since.
This is another reason to have a signal primer page be created, want to help?
Oh yeah I'd love to help! Sorry for being such a smart @$$ :sombrero:. If you need signal help, you can email me. iansignal@gmail.com
Thanks!
-Ian
I can't recall where, now, but it seems like I've seen a few Econolites that have a McCain-style addition. Are most of these light assemblies interchangeable?
QuoteOh yeah I'd love to help! Sorry for being such a smart @$$ . If you need signal help, you can email me. iansignal@gmail.com
Thanks!
-Ian
No worries, I was more shocked that I have had it wrong all along. Either way, that style of signal is my least favorite...
US71- Those are the new style of Econolites aluminum signals. They do almost look identical to McCains but if ya go up close, you'll see that there are a lot more parts, sections, and bolts that make the signal look a little hideous. But they look fairly interesting at the same time. There is also the polycarbonate (poly) Econolite "buttonback signals" (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/PennsylvaniaTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5309443460892931234 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/PennsylvaniaTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5309443460892931234)). Those are starting to pop up like weeds and the 8" (or the 30" as Aaroads calls them) version of the buttonbacks look very similar to McCains.
Aaroads- Yea, not many people in the signal club I am in (http://forums.signaltraffic.com/index.php (http://forums.signaltraffic.com/index.php)) like McCains that much either. Though since I see them a whole lot, I am starting to like the design and I would love one for my collection. Besides, McCain did make this beauty ;-): http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/PennsylvaniaTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5301734766981151026 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/PennsylvaniaTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5301734766981151026)
Some of the older signal brands look identical McCains. Here is a list of those brands.
Safetran
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/PennsylvaniaTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5310497717460975362 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/PennsylvaniaTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5310497717460975362)
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/PennsylvaniaTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5291333689912345746 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/PennsylvaniaTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5291333689912345746)
Singer
http://www.gilligcoaches.net/rosenowphotography/Singer_3.jpg (http://www.gilligcoaches.net/rosenowphotography/Singer_3.jpg)
-Ian
For most of michigan history, we've had these eagles...
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.362064,-83.332672&spn=0,359.938202&z=15&layer=c&cbll=42.362064,-83.332693&panoid=ai5w2KH3lh5hnMHa7Nixhg&cbp=12,220.17,,0,-10.5 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.362064,-83.332672&spn=0,359.938202&z=15&layer=c&cbll=42.362064,-83.332693&panoid=ai5w2KH3lh5hnMHa7Nixhg&cbp=12,220.17,,0,-10.5)
until recently, when we started switching to these...
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.362064,-83.332672&spn=0,359.938202&z=15&layer=c&cbll=42.362064,-83.332693&panoid=ai5w2KH3lh5hnMHa7Nixhg&cbp=12,220.17,,0,-10.5 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.362064,-83.332672&spn=0,359.938202&z=15&layer=c&cbll=42.362064,-83.332693&panoid=ai5w2KH3lh5hnMHa7Nixhg&cbp=12,220.17,,0,-10.5)
Also, how do post street view images?
Quote from: US71Not complex, but a rather "retro" signal:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=paseo+%26+linwood,+Kansas+city,+mo&sll=39.102774,-94.562781&sspn=0.009874,0.016437&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=39.068526,-94.566798&panoid=R47D-GrQwd2coElI161Ryw&cbp=12,198.2,,0,5
I love that signal. When I was like 3 or 4, my aunt found out about my roadgeek tendencies and made a point to visit that intersection to show me that signal. Needless to say I flipped out. And then I remember we got on a freeway that bizarrely had a stoplight on it. Looking at the map, we must have gotten on US 71, and gone through the Watkins Drive portion!
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I was happy to see that some of the 30" Eagle and Crouse Hinds signals are still hanging around in Mobile. This set is on Virginia Street west at Broad Street.
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 24, 2009, 02:26:12 AM
Quote from: US71Not complex, but a rather "retro" signal:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=paseo+%26+linwood,+Kansas+city,+mo&sll=39.102774,-94.562781&sspn=0.009874,0.016437&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=39.068526,-94.566798&panoid=R47D-GrQwd2coElI161Ryw&cbp=12,198.2,,0,5
That looks pretty cool!
Just look at my avatar, i do love traffic lights. I love that alabama is now painting their lights black instead of yellow
I found some oldies in Idabel, OK a couple weeks back:
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One would blackout going from red to green, the other from green to yellow.
Also several old 4ways in Mississippi
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I've got a whole category on my Flickr pages. ;-)
All of Mobile County's signals are switching from yellow to black as well. The city installs vary, but they are mostly the bee-lights (black visors/yellow backs).
There's some great old signals in Bay Minette (still there in a recent visit). Here is a 2002 photo:
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what does it mean for a light to black out? you mean it stays unlit for a split second before switching?
a few months ago I caught this transition on an old US-61 alignment in Mississippi:
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that was about a 1/20th second exposure so I do not know if it really overlapped for a split second or if there was a gap.
those hypothesizing that it the red went off at the *exact same time* that the green turned on are hereby directed towards the nearest course in special relativity...
"well, officer, given my relative position and velocity with respect to the signal, the green light reached me before I crossed the intersection"
"oh, well in that case ... my calculations tell me you were traveling at 99.9 percent of the speed of light ... that, too, is an infraction!"
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 08, 2009, 09:04:21 PM
what does it mean for a light to black out? you mean it stays unlit for a split second before switching?
It's an effect of older electromechanical controllers. For a very brief interval, the face would appear totally dark as the controller switched circuits.
Many signals in Allentown, PA had that black out phase when I was there in 1994. I was unfamiliar with the phenomenon until that trip.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 08, 2009, 09:04:21 PM
what does it mean for a light to black out? you mean it stays unlit for a split second before switching?
a few months ago I caught this transition on an old US-61 alignment in Mississippi:
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There are several in Poteau, OK that "black out" or do a double light, like this one in Hugo
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I'll have to look for my Poteau snaps... they seem to be missing. :(
This is a type of traffic signal and mount that has been in Greenville, Texas since the early to mid 1980s. The intersection shown, Stanford and Stonewall Streets, is the only remaining intersection in Greenville that has this design of traffic signal and mounts.
In this image, you are looking west on Stanford from Stonewall, looking towards TX 34/Wesley St.
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Quote from: AARoads on June 08, 2009, 07:41:04 PM
All of Mobile County's signals are switching from yellow to black as well. The city installs vary, but they are mostly the bee-lights (black visors/yellow backs).
Most new Huntsville and Madison County signal installations have went to black or black visor/yellow back design. I think ALDOT is using all-black traffic signals now in a lot of places, especially in Division 1. There are a ton of them along US 431 in Guntersville and Albertville.
Hello everybody im a really big traffic signal fan :nod:, and of course a fellow roadgeek. In Puerto Rico traffic signals were once yellow but newer ones (since mid 9o's I think) are black. There are still a lot of yellow traffic signals. Puerto Rico has quite a few styles of traffic signals.
This is a traffic signal in Ponce. This style of traffic signal is the one used in the island. New ones are black not yellow, but this one is a bit old i think. The post where the signal is different from the normal one since its a boulevard and in PR its only used in Ponce.
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Another traffic signal, dont know where it is. iN pr, WE CALL THEM "semaforos"
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Speaking of traffic lights, here's a Flickr group I ran across dedicated 2 traffic lights in Michigan: :coffee:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/596092@N21/ (http://www.flickr.com/groups/596092@N21/)
US71: here's a pic I ran across that I don't think was a blackout, but still a rarity:
http://www.pasty.com/discus/messages/278/446.html#PN (http://www.pasty.com/discus/messages/278/446.html#PN)
Quote from: AARoads on May 14, 2009, 04:27:56 AM
QuoteDefinitely a signal fan here, always looking for the oldies in the Sunshine State.
There are a few decent assemblies left on the side streets of Tampa.
I was shocked to find a classic signal in Quincy. Its on the street one block south of U.S. 90. In fact several of the signals there predate the current and even the 1990s standards.
Yeah! I would like to get over there and take some photos; always see them while traveling 275 between Dale Mabry and downtown.
The Quincy one sounds familiar. There might still be a classic 4-way 'boxy' signal in Green Cove Springs west of US 17 and north of SR 16 (this was 6 years ago).
Edit: Is this the Quincy light?
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Here are some others:
Okeechobee
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Palatka
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Orlando
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Ocala
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Lake Wales
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Marineland (love the faded green, they've been working hard!)
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Those are some great older FL installations. I Appreciate you posting them.
Here's the newest light craze in our area.
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It's fun to see the traffic light hanging on cables. Something we don't do in The Netherlands and as far as I know in Europe either. Another difference is that in The Netherlands the traffic lights are before a intersection. Not in the middle or after the intersection.
As a tourist I experienced this difference in the US years ago. On one of my first days I had rented a car in the Washington DC area I stopped before a traffic light. It was dark and there where no street lights. I looked to the right when I saw headlights from another car. At that moment I knew I halted just before the traffic light, on the middle of the intersection. :-( I decided to ignore the red light and left the intersection....
Quote from: Hensepens on June 21, 2009, 02:20:33 PM
It's fun to see the traffic light hanging on cables. Something we don't do in The Netherlands and as far as I know in Europe either. Another difference is that in The Netherlands the traffic lights are before a intersection. Not in the middle or after the intersection.
As a tourist I experienced this difference in the US years ago. On one of my first days I had rented a car in the Washington DC area I stopped before a traffic light. It was dark and there where no street lights. I looked to the right when I saw headlights from another car. At that moment I knew I halted just before the traffic light, on the middle of the intersection. :-( I decided to ignore the red light and left the intersection....
I did exactly the same thing when I first drove in the US. It was on Girard Ave in Philadelphia. I also had to run the red light as I was blocking the intersection. I also passed a school bus with its lights flashing on the same street because I didn't realise at the time that you had to stop for them. Over here school buses unloading kids are treated as parked vehicles and you just blast by them :-o
Quote from: AARoads on May 14, 2009, 04:27:56 AM
QuoteDefinitely a signal fan here, always looking for the oldies in the Sunshine State.
There are a few decent assemblies left on the side streets of Tampa.
I was shocked to find a classic signal in Quincy. Its on the street one block south of U.S. 90. In fact several of the signals there predate the current and even the 1990s standards.
Yeah! I would like to get over there and take some photos; always see them while traveling 275 between Dale Mabry and downtown.
The Quincy one sounds familiar. There might still be a classic 4-way 'boxy' signal in Green Cove Springs west of US 17 and north of SR 16 (this was 6 years ago).
Edit: Is this the Quincy light?
I love the faded green lens too!
I'll dig out the Quincy photos from late last year and post them here. I'm not sure if the one you posted is that one or not.
There are definitely some nice old assemblies on Columbus Street in Tampa. There is also one I never minded waiting for on Lois Avenue. Unfortunately St. Petersburg was/is replacing many of its older assemblies in the downtown area.
The signals under Florida 408 may still be there south of downtown Orlando (they were last fall). Some other 30" signals are still functioning near Lake Ivanhoe. You can see them in the background of this photo: http://www.southeastroads.com/florida500/fl-527_nb_at_orange_av.jpg (http://www.southeastroads.com/florida500/fl-527_nb_at_orange_av.jpg)
Looks to be the same signal in Quincy that Florida photographed, that Brent and I photographed last year. I posted some photos of it and the same intersection of Orange Avenue in Orlando on a new members album thread dedicated to old signal photos (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1187.0).
I have noticed something unusual regarding traffic lights. Back around the end of the 1990's and the beginning of this decade, many jurisdictions replaced traditional incandescent signal bulbs with LED's. However, most of them only replaced the red and green lights, not the yellow ones. Moreover, in the past couple of years, many of those same jurisdictions started replacing the yellow lights, too. Can anyone shed some light (Pardon the pun!) on this unusual yellow LED behavior?
Quote from: AARoads on June 21, 2009, 07:22:33 PM
Quote from: AARoads on May 14, 2009, 04:27:56 AM
I love the faded green lens too!
I'll dig out the Quincy photos from late last year and post them here. I'm not sure if the one you posted is that one or not.
There are definitely some nice old assemblies on Columbus Street in Tampa. There is also one I never minded waiting for on Lois Avenue. Unfortunately St. Petersburg was/is replacing many of its older assemblies in the downtown area.
The signals under Florida 408 may still be there south of downtown Orlando (they were last fall). Some other 30" signals are still functioning near Lake Ivanhoe. You can see them in the background of this photo: http://www.southeastroads.com/florida500/fl-527_nb_at_orange_av.jpg (http://www.southeastroads.com/florida500/fl-527_nb_at_orange_av.jpg)
Those signals will always be there (they still are), they're forgotten. Did find an old grouping tucked behind the Citrus Bowl last year.
I think that yellow LEDs only recently became available and that is why only the red and green sections were initially replaced. Plus yellow wasn't as pressing since it's only lit 3-5 seconds per cycle. Where red and/or green could be lit for 30+ seconds per cycle.
When the city of Mobile began phasing in LED's, they only installed reds. As time wore on, they started adding greens as well, but yellows remained as the old incandescent bulbs. Nowadays they are all LED's. I assumed they did this as a cost saving measure, thinking that red was the most important color, so change those bulbs out first and add more later as the city budget would allow.
Here's the most common left turn signal in Michigan...
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OK, I just had to jump into this thread to ask this question...
Normally, when referring to traffic signals, if I don't call them "traffic signals" I call them "traffic lights" or "stoplights" or just "lights". It would not have occurred to me that there would be anything else to call them.
On Saturday at a restaurant in the middle of nowhere I heard the waitress giving directions to the family at the next table. She said something like "ok, take a left out of our parking light and take a right at the go-lights, not the first set but the second set of go-lights."
I've been a roadgeek all my life and never heard anyone call them go-lights. Is this a regional thing, just some quirky affectation by this particular waitress, or have I just not been paying attention?
I am also quite a fan of signals, although I'm not quite as knowledgeable about the various brands and such as many others here.
Quote from: Lyle on June 22, 2009, 12:15:36 AM
I have noticed something unusual regarding traffic lights. Back around the end of the 1990's and the beginning of this decade, many jurisdictions replaced traditional incandescent signal bulbs with LED's. However, most of them only replaced the red and green lights, not the yellow ones. Moreover, in the past couple of years, many of those same jurisdictions started replacing the yellow lights, too. Can anyone shed some light (Pardon the pun!) on this unusual yellow LED behavior?
Quote from: AARoads on June 22, 2009, 11:36:05 AM
When the city of Mobile began phasing in LED's, they only installed reds. As time wore on, they started adding greens as well, but yellows remained as the old incandescent bulbs. Nowadays they are all LED's. I assumed they did this as a cost saving measure, thinking that red was the most important color, so change those bulbs out first and add more later as the city budget would allow.
The City of Las Vegas, NV first changed only red signal bulbs when they started converting signal heads to LED bulbs. As I recall, Las Vegas was one of the first municipalities to start such conversions on a grand scale--they were doing it citywide.
During the period that the city was converting the reds, they were using all LED displays in newer signal installations. At the time, the green and yellow LED technology wasn't quite as developed. I recall several new signal installations where the red light was good, but the yellow lights were quite dim and the green lights were too bright--so much so that I believe the public works office got some complaints.
Eventually, the color/brightness issue was worked out and the city's remaining green and yellow signal displays were converted to LED. All the jurisdictions within the Las Vegas area are using LEDs for new installations and have converted most (if not all) signal heads from incandescent bulbs.
Go-lights is a new one for me too. I probably would have asked the waitress where they were going.
Found this photo by E. Lorey of a traffic light that survived a tornado that went through downtown Kalamazoo, Michigan in May 1980:
http://www.vanishedkalamazoo.com/tornado/isb2.jpg (http://www.vanishedkalamazoo.com/tornado/isb2.jpg)
P.S. I remember hearing the term "go-light" in the late 1980's. :coffee:
Definitely a traffic light fan here.
I don't have too many, nae, maybe one or 2 photos directly involving traffic lights, but I can definitely refer those who are traveling through Northeast Ohio, or those who like to do street-level Google Earth-ing, to spend some time cruising around for a great array of traffic lights, although there has been a big push in recent years to replace all older cable-hung signal systems with new mast-mounted ones -- Especially in Cuyahoga County. Not only that, but its getting rarer by the day to find any Green or Black traffic lights in Akron.
Some highly recommended areas:
East Cleveland (best visited in the daytime -- trust me): Most of the lights off of the main routed thoroughfares (US-6, US 20) in this very poor neighborhood go back to the 50's and 60's easily. Had I not moved away from Cleveland 3 years ago, this would have been a great area to spend the day taking pictures of literally a working museum of lights and signs from over 40 years ago. Best Bets -- Superior Road.
Lorain County (West of Cleveland): A lot of intersections with 50's/60's lights -- many with one light in each direction (must be fun when bulbs burn out) a lot with direction arrow lenses. Best bets -- Lorain Proper and South Amherst off of SR-58 (Along old SR-113).
Ravenna (East of Akron): A wonderful array of old-school metal lights. The city even went as far as buying old lights and refurbishing them to place on the main drag (SR-59) downtown. Best Bets: The old SR 44 alignment through town.
Youngstown: A city so poor and decrepit, they are trying to close large areas of neighborhoods to avoid having to maintain/light/plow/etc... them. Best Bets -- Near downtown. There are still some intersections with the old Blink-o-matic(?) neon crosswalk lights that are still working, while others have been broken for so long one could probably be disassemble one in broad daylight with nobody noticing or caring.
And if anybody ever does venture into these parts, give us a show and tell, please :)
In the flesh!
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Quote from: AARoads on June 22, 2009, 11:36:05 AM
When the city of Mobile began phasing in LED's, they only installed reds. As time wore on, they started adding greens as well, but yellows remained as the old incandescent bulbs. Nowadays they are all LED's. I assumed they did this as a cost saving measure, thinking that red was the most important color, so change those bulbs out first and add more later as the city budget would allow.
LEDs were phased in as a cost-savings measure -- they used in some cases 90% less wattage than the incandescent indications. Based on my understanding, the red was done first because that is the one that is on the longest. Green followed later. Yellow was the last one available. In some cases, the LED signals are more visible than the incandescents, especially in bright sun.
Quote from: Lyle on June 22, 2009, 12:15:36 AM
I have noticed something unusual regarding traffic lights. Back around the end of the 1990's and the beginning of this decade, many jurisdictions replaced traditional incandescent signal bulbs with LED's. However, most of them only replaced the red and green lights, not the yellow ones. Moreover, in the past couple of years, many of those same jurisdictions started replacing the yellow lights, too. Can anyone shed some light (Pardon the pun!) on this unusual yellow LED behavior?
I think red LED's were the cheapest ($75 each?), with green being the most expensive ($150 each?)
Anyway, here is an different setup I found in the Des Moines area the other day:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=41.643957,-93.600551&spn=0,359.956055&z=15&layer=c&cbll=41.643864,-93.600519&panoid=A6ztL2pV5lPfRvCDVZvJ-Q&cbp=12,17.08,,0,-6.78 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=41.643957,-93.600551&spn=0,359.956055&z=15&layer=c&cbll=41.643864,-93.600519&panoid=A6ztL2pV5lPfRvCDVZvJ-Q&cbp=12,17.08,,0,-6.78)
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 18, 2009, 03:33:48 PM
Anyway, here is an different setup I found in the Des Moines area the other day:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=41.643957,-93.600551&spn=0,359.956055&z=15&layer=c&cbll=41.643864,-93.600519&panoid=A6ztL2pV5lPfRvCDVZvJ-Q&cbp=12,17.08,,0,-6.78 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=41.643957,-93.600551&spn=0,359.956055&z=15&layer=c&cbll=41.643864,-93.600519&panoid=A6ztL2pV5lPfRvCDVZvJ-Q&cbp=12,17.08,,0,-6.78)
Well, that's weird
Keeping with the LED signal topic...
I live in Fort Bend County (the county to the south and west of Harris County/Houston). In this county, they have been installing LED stoplights for several years now, but here's the catch. Recently, they have gone back to installing incandescent traffic signals in newer intersections. Anyone know why? I have noticed that the LEDs around my area (installed in 2003/2004) have had some issues with large chunks of LEDs failing (leaving only 50% of the red circle lit for example). When they are replaced, it seems they always install incandescent bulbs rather than a new LED signal.
I have also noticed that unincorporated Harris County has yet to even use LED signals for new intersections, but I believe once in the city limits of Houston, you start to see LEDs more.
Quote from: akotchi on July 04, 2009, 08:47:09 PM
LEDs were phased in as a cost-savings measure -- they used in some cases 90% less wattage than the incandescent indications. Based on my understanding, the red was done first because that is the one that is on the longest. Green followed later. Yellow was the last one available.
ALSO: since the yellow signal isn't on as long as the red or green, there was less "need" to replace it.
I think Car Talk had a question about this last year sometime.
Quote from: MarcI live in Fort Bend County (the county to the south and west of Harris County/Houston). In this county, they have been installing LED stoplights for several years now, but here's the catch. Recently, they have gone back to installing incandescent traffic signals in newer intersections. Anyone know why? I have noticed that the LEDs around my area (installed in 2003/2004) have had some issues with large chunks of LEDs failing (leaving only 50% of the red circle lit for example). When they are replaced, it seems they always install incandescent bulbs rather than a new LED signal.
Is there a big difference in brightness? Some of the newer LED designs are somewhat hard to differentiate from incandescents (I didn't even know they were LEDs until informed by MoDOT).
Quote from: Truvelo on June 21, 2009, 02:33:42 PM
Quote from: Hensepens on June 21, 2009, 02:20:33 PM
It's fun to see the traffic light hanging on cables. Something we don't do in The Netherlands and as far as I know in Europe either. Another difference is that in The Netherlands the traffic lights are before a intersection. Not in the middle or after the intersection.
As a tourist I experienced this difference in the US years ago. On one of my first days I had rented a car in the Washington DC area I stopped before a traffic light. It was dark and there where no street lights. I looked to the right when I saw headlights from another car. At that moment I knew I halted just before the traffic light, on the middle of the intersection. :-( I decided to ignore the red light and left the intersection....
I did exactly the same thing when I first drove in the US. It was on Girard Ave in Philadelphia. I also had to run the red light as I was blocking the intersection. I also passed a school bus with its lights flashing on the same street because I didn't realise at the time that you had to stop for them. Over here school buses unloading kids are treated as parked vehicles and you just blast by them :-o
So, I take it that you didn't notice the "Stop" sign that the school buses have here on the Left Side of the bus? ;)
How do you guys like Dutch traffic signals?
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nearly all Dutch traffic signals look like this, and are in 99% of the time placed before the intersection like on this picture.
Those are pretty interesting, and it's fun to see lights before the intersection.
Do all you traffic signal fans know there is a forum dedicated to signal fanning?
http://forums.signaltraffic.com/index.php (http://forums.signaltraffic.com/index.php)
Ian
They aren't taking any new applicants :-( And they don't process users who use free email accounts :banghead:
Quote from: Hellfighter on July 23, 2009, 10:39:08 AM
Those are pretty interesting, and it's fun to see lights before the intersection.
There's at least two cases of having stoplights before the intersection in Nebraska. Granted they are on slightly skewed intersections.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=40.772433,-96.702347&spn=0,359.989014&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.772213,-96.702167&panoid=e39cc7KQkHljPnl37GUktw&cbp=12,116.52,,0,-6.78 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=40.772433,-96.702347&spn=0,359.989014&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.772213,-96.702167&panoid=e39cc7KQkHljPnl37GUktw&cbp=12,116.52,,0,-6.78)
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=40.754653,-96.644658&spn=0,359.994507&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.754703,-96.64475&panoid=OPfBCyku2kbMt26jfteNZA&cbp=12,113.92,,0,4.03 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=40.754653,-96.644658&spn=0,359.994507&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.754703,-96.64475&panoid=OPfBCyku2kbMt26jfteNZA&cbp=12,113.92,,0,4.03)
Here's an odd set-up from the 40's (I think)
http://photos.ark-ives.com/deane/0664_06r.jpg (http://photos.ark-ives.com/deane/0664_06r.jpg)
An early way of putting lights at Railroad Crossings! Very Cool! :nod:
Regarding beacon lights, there's 1 in Heyden, Ontario, Canada that flashes slower than most others, and 1 in St. Louis, Michigan that flashes faster than most others. :coffee:
I would be one as well - my sister got my son one of those $10 "traffic lights" where the bulbs inside of it just all blink. I enjoyed the fact that it's a traffic light, but the random blinking drove me nuts. So I found a circuit board online that would allow me to create a "functional" traffic signal - now it works correctly. When I was a kid, my Grandfather managed to get one of the timer mechanisms from a signal - I rememember it being a long, almost cylander shaped piece of metal that rotated, like many wheels/gears that rotated around that showed a particular light. I can't properly describe it, and haven't found a good picture of one (although admittedly, haven't tried hard to find one...)
Van Wert, Ohio. I want to duck every time I drive under it :sombrero:
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Quote from: US71 on June 09, 2009, 12:44:25 AM
There are several in Poteau, OK that "black out" or do a double light, like this one in Hugo
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I'll have to look for my Poteau snaps... they seem to be missing. :(
In Massachusetts, we have another usage for red and yellow together, although it's slowly being phased out: All vehicles must stop, pedestrians can cross. Signals which include a red-and-yellow interval are marked by a red-yellow-red stripe on the signal posts.
Quote from: SidS1045 on October 02, 2010, 03:42:54 PM
In Massachusetts, we have another usage for red and yellow together, although it's slowly being phased out: All vehicles must stop, pedestrians can cross. Signals which include a red-and-yellow interval are marked by a red-yellow-red stripe on the signal posts.
I remember seeing a few of these in Salem last year. I really like them, not an everyday thing you see. Massachusetts itself has some really cool signal installs.
Quote from: thenetwork on June 23, 2009, 07:51:52 PM
Definitely a traffic light fan here.
I don't have too many, nae, maybe one or 2 photos directly involving traffic lights, but I can definitely refer those who are traveling through Northeast Ohio, or those who like to do street-level Google Earth-ing, to spend some time cruising around for a great array of traffic lights, although there has been a big push in recent years to replace all older cable-hung signal systems with new mast-mounted ones -- Especially in Cuyahoga County. Not only that, but its getting rarer by the day to find any Green or Black traffic lights in Akron.
Some highly recommended areas:
East Cleveland (best visited in the daytime -- trust me): Most of the lights off of the main routed thoroughfares (US-6, US 20) in this very poor neighborhood go back to the 50's and 60's easily. Had I not moved away from Cleveland 3 years ago, this would have been a great area to spend the day taking pictures of literally a working museum of lights and signs from over 40 years ago. Best Bets -- Superior Road.
Lorain County (West of Cleveland): A lot of intersections with 50's/60's lights -- many with one light in each direction (must be fun when bulbs burn out) a lot with direction arrow lenses. Best bets -- Lorain Proper and South Amherst off of SR-58 (Along old SR-113).
Ravenna (East of Akron): A wonderful array of old-school metal lights. The city even went as far as buying old lights and refurbishing them to place on the main drag (SR-59) downtown. Best Bets: The old SR 44 alignment through town.
Youngstown: A city so poor and decrepit, they are trying to close large areas of neighborhoods to avoid having to maintain/light/plow/etc... them. Best Bets -- Near downtown. There are still some intersections with the old Blink-o-matic(?) neon crosswalk lights that are still working, while others have been broken for so long one could probably be disassemble one in broad daylight with nobody noticing or caring.
And if anybody ever does venture into these parts, give us a show and tell, please :)
Ravenna: http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x182/busman_49/Ravenna%20OH%20052309/
Youngstown: http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x182/busman_49/Youngstown%20OH%20030610/
I have come to find out that there are a good 15 or so more intersections in Youngstown that I have yet to visit. Maybe one of these days...
Big fan of signals, especially Texas's horizontal ones. For some reason, I always liked the left turn signals with the double reds (R R Y G).
Quote from: SidS1045 on October 02, 2010, 03:42:54 PM
Quote from: US71 on June 09, 2009, 12:44:25 AM
There are several in Poteau, OK that "black out" or do a double light, like this one in Hugo
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I'll have to look for my Poteau snaps... they seem to be missing. :(
In Massachusetts, we have another usage for red and yellow together, although it's slowly being phased out: All vehicles must stop, pedestrians can cross. Signals which include a red-and-yellow interval are marked by a red-yellow-red stripe on the signal posts.
Didn't Mass at one time also have a blinking green indication at one point?
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 06, 2010, 10:08:14 AM
Didn't Mass at one time also have a blinking green indication at one point?
The blinking green is something I'd like to see make it's way down here - it's common up in BC, used to show that the signal can be controlled by pedestrians (ie, they can hit the button to cross and the signal will change).
The Red-Yellow thing - a couple of years ago, I traveled to Israel for a friend's wedding. Just before a light is to turn green, while the red light is still illuminated, the yellow light illuminates - almost like the "christmas tree" for drag racing. I thought it was cool, but can see how that might encourage the drag racing mentality to gun it once green did hit.
Quote from: RustyK on October 06, 2010, 11:55:27 AMJust before a light is to turn green, while the red light is still illuminated, the yellow light illuminates - almost like the "christmas tree" for drag racing.
the reason for that is so that drivers with manual transmission cars (much more common outside of the US) can put the clutch down and the car into gear.
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 06, 2010, 10:08:14 AM
Didn't Mass at one time also have a blinking green indication at one point?
We still have it. It is posted at crosswalks that aren't at intersections, where pedestrians can push a button to stop all traffic, and in front of firehouses where departing fire-fighting vehicles can stop all traffic.
Sid, the blinking green crosswalk signal can be at an intersection too. I've seen one in Braintree like that. Although it's at an intersection, the pedestrian activated signal exists for the crosswalk.
Quote from: SignBridge on October 07, 2010, 10:17:59 PM
Sid, the blinking green crosswalk signal can be at an intersection too. I've seen one in Braintree like that. Although it's at an intersection, the pedestrian activated signal exists for the crosswalk.
When it's at an intersection, the main road has blinking green and the side road has blinking red. Ped activation changes main road to red and side road to green. I've only seen this at a one-way T intersection (side road at Morrissey Blvd. I think) such that the crosswalk was before the intersection. Not a bad idea to have this on its way out.
Typical suburban New Orleans set up:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fileden.com%2Ffiles%2F2008%2F10%2F16%2F2145144%2FDSC00621.JPG&hash=613d8646ca8f15552d9b9ca74368a2e9b4f5c80e)
Quote from: UptownRoadGeek on October 08, 2010, 03:00:13 PM
Typical suburban New Orleans set up:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fileden.com%2Ffiles%2F2008%2F10%2F16%2F2145144%2FDSC00621.JPG&hash=613d8646ca8f15552d9b9ca74368a2e9b4f5c80e)
I spy 3M signals! I really like the green color, as well as those mast arms!
ALPS, yes the one I saw in Braintree, Ma. was at a t-intersection of a main road, and a side-street, with a crosswalk on the main road. I think it was for a school, not sure.
Here's a webcam in Coldwater, Michigan showing an intersection with traffic lights (looks better at night):
http://libcam.coldwater.org/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=52774 :coffee:
Found these 2 photos on Wikipedia and Flickr, and one thing they have in common is that there are traffic lights where at least one pair each is showing red, green, and yellow:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gastonia,_NC.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eridony/5627433479/ :coffee:
Quote from: US71 on August 05, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
Here's an odd set-up from the 40's (I think)
http://photos.ark-ives.com/deane/0664_06r.jpg (http://photos.ark-ives.com/deane/0664_06r.jpg)
http://g.co/maps/annss
There's a somewhat similar installation in existence in Marysville, WA. Granted there are several other signal heads for the direction in question, and I have yet to figure out exactly what the purpose is of the "shorty" signal in the median, but hey, it's unique and it looks cool I guess.
ETA: My wife (Marysville native), who is most definitely not a road/signalgeek, reminded me that the median signal is the only one with the left turn arrow. So there you go.
I am a traffic signal anti-fan. I dislike them. Blech! Give me roundabouts, give me RIROs, give me superstreets, give me nearly anything else.....except an all-way Stop.
A rather old topic, but I am a die-hard signal fanatic. I am particularly interested in New York City signal equipment.
Thread looks dead. Anyways, cool "retro" assembly here. http://goo.gl/maps/p4TvS
^^ Any other heads than the one in the middle? as MUTCD mandates a minimum of 2 primary signal heads in each direction.
Quote from: Big John on October 28, 2014, 07:52:59 PM
^^ Any other heads than the one in the middle? as MUTCD mandates a minimum of 2 primary signal heads in each direction.
Old set-ups with one signal-face per direction are "grandfathered in" because towns might not have the money to double-up their signals.
Tuscumbia, Sheffield, Bessemer, and Albertville (all of these are in Alabama) still have intersections with one 4-way suspended above them.
I'm a signal fan as well. BTW, the new signal forum is called "Highway Divides".
I used to like New Jersey growing up as you would have many different mounts back in the 70's. You had Irvington which used to have a wide variety of installations. As I would visit my Aunt in Irvington I used to see horizontal mounts on double guy supported mast arms. The traffic lights along the GSP service roads used the standard double guy mast arms, as they must of been installed by the Garden State Parkway when the road was first built.
Then you would see side mounted lights along many intersections in Irvington, especially Springfield Avenue in Downtown Irvington. The later truss style arms were used along Clinton Avenue except at Coit Street which used side mounts. Then the 18th Avenue/ Grove Street Intersection had two worlds with Grove using overhead horizontal mounts and 18th Avenue using side mounts.
Then the NJ State road system used both double guy and truss mast arms as NJDOT was in the process of changing out the old double guy for the newer truss arms all throughout the 70's and well into the 80's.
I got to see many combos of signals which got me into admiring them. However, now as a grown up, where I have to drive in a city that is traffic light friendly and adding new signals by the day, I hate them now.
However, give me an interesting installation, and I will only admire the signals themselves, not their effect on traffic.
I've wondered why some of the cities in the Phoenix area choose not to use traffic signals that are similar to the ADOT signals in most of the state.