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Title: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: Mergingtraffic on March 31, 2013, 10:17:32 AM
Driving on CT-8 Expressway in Derby, CT, I noticed several original streetlights with wire holding up the arms, that are still up.  Most of these have been replaced with past widening projects or from drivers running into them, but some, about only 10, are still there.  I'm guessing these are from the 60s. 

http://www.google.com/maps?q=derby,+ct&hl=en&ll=41.329955,-73.088739&spn=0.001239,0.001725&sll=42.746632,-75.770041&sspn=4.928942,7.064209&hnear=Derby,+New+Haven,+Connecticut&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=41.33001,-73.088834&panoid=FaOm1Qk8RTQdTneA2xGstA&cbp=12,4.03,,0,-34.01

Any spots where original freeway lighting still stands?
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: huskeroadgeek on March 31, 2013, 02:07:24 PM
Not freeway lighting, but this streetlight in Detroit is one of the oldest I have seen.
http://maps.google.com/?ll=42.326911,-83.056211&spn=0.004886,0.006899&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.327347,-83.05793&panoid=MuLIASIpmMd8E6YC56ofIQ&cbp=12,17.47,,0,-0.18 (http://maps.google.com/?ll=42.326911,-83.056211&spn=0.004886,0.006899&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.327347,-83.05793&panoid=MuLIASIpmMd8E6YC56ofIQ&cbp=12,17.47,,0,-0.18)
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: Pete from Boston on April 02, 2013, 10:45:56 PM
Are any incandescent lamps?  The world looked so much different under incandescent lamps.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: apeman33 on April 03, 2013, 05:06:55 AM
<edit> I confused topics and the original post actually wasn't relevant to the discussion. Carry on.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: cpzilliacus on April 03, 2013, 07:46:49 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on April 02, 2013, 10:45:56 PM
Are any incandescent lamps?  The world looked so much different under incandescent lamps.

There are some smaller municipalities in Prince George's County, Maryland (a suburb of Washington, D.C.) that have had incandescent bulbs in the not-so-recent past, though  I have not checked recently.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: hobsini2 on April 03, 2013, 10:14:07 AM
The city of Riverside, IL (a west suburb of Chicago) has some of the dimmest lighting using older light bulbs in what used to be gas lights like this one at Longcommon and Shenstone Rds.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=riverside+il&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=en&hq=&hnear=Riverside,+Cook,+Illinois&ll=41.833439,-87.815094&spn=0.048283,0.077162&t=m&z=14&vpsrc=0&cbll=41.83347,-87.814977&panoid=3smQJ0YwNGZTyLE2pKMXGQ&cbp=12,159.22,,1,8.37&ei=nDhcUaW6NKLPwQHl-oHwAw&pw=2
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: thenetwork on April 03, 2013, 01:31:53 PM
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on March 31, 2013, 02:07:24 PM
Not freeway lighting, but this streetlight in Detroit is one of the oldest I have seen.
http://maps.google.com/?ll=42.326911,-83.056211&spn=0.004886,0.006899&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.327347,-83.05793&panoid=MuLIASIpmMd8E6YC56ofIQ&cbp=12,17.47,,0,-0.18 (http://maps.google.com/?ll=42.326911,-83.056211&spn=0.004886,0.006899&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.327347,-83.05793&panoid=MuLIASIpmMd8E6YC56ofIQ&cbp=12,17.47,,0,-0.18)

The first place I thought of was Detroit proper.  I wouldn't be surprised that over 75% of the streetlights on Detroit's surface streets are at least 50 years old.  Whether they actually work is a different story!!!  :bigass:
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: Duke87 on April 03, 2013, 09:06:07 PM
There is street light still standing in New York City that is old enough to have been originally powered by gas (http://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/tag/patchin-place-gas-lamp/). It now runs on electricity and contains a CFL. How's that for a contrast of old and new?

Unfortunately, you can't just go see it. The street it's on is private and gated.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: Alps on April 08, 2013, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on April 03, 2013, 09:06:07 PM
There is street light still standing in New York City that is old enough to have been originally powered by gas (http://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/tag/patchin-place-gas-lamp/). It now runs on electricity and contains a CFL. How's that for a contrast of old and new?

Unfortunately, you can't just go see it. The street it's on is private and gated.
I beg pardon, you can indeed go see it: http://goo.gl/maps/5ehxm
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: lepidopteran on April 10, 2013, 12:11:46 AM
Remember the fluorescent streetlight trend?  These had "long", sort of half-cylindrical heads set at about a 25-degree angle, each containing a genuine fluorescent tube.  I think these reached their peak in the late 1960s or so.  Any of these still around?  I seem to recall they were found on Hollywood Blvd. in California at one point.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: KEK Inc. on April 10, 2013, 07:22:02 AM
I-5 / Exit 234 / Albany, OR
(https://www.aaroads.com/west/oregon005/i-005_nb_exit_235_01.jpg)

On the SB side, you can see old street lights ca. the 1960s.  They're not even cobraheads!

They got replaced in late 2011 with conventional GE-M400R3.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: Stephane Dumas on April 10, 2013, 07:47:35 AM
Quote from: lepidopteran on April 10, 2013, 12:11:46 AM
Remember the fluorescent streetlight trend?  These had "long", sort of half-cylindrical heads set at about a 25-degree angle, each containing a genuine fluorescent tube.  I think these reached their peak in the late 1960s or so.  Any of these still around?  I seem to recall they were found on Hollywood Blvd. in California at one point.

I remember them, Sherbrooke and Magog used to have them on main arterial until the mid-1980s.

Some parts of Toronto still have these old-school streetlights. http://goo.gl/maps/U8Guw
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: DaBigE on April 10, 2013, 01:42:10 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on April 10, 2013, 12:11:46 AM
Remember the fluorescent streetlight trend?  These had "long", sort of half-cylindrical heads set at about a 25-degree angle, each containing a genuine fluorescent tube.  I think these reached their peak in the late 1960s or so.  Any of these still around?  I seem to recall they were found on Hollywood Blvd. in California at one point.

Like these (http://goo.gl/maps/rWKiF)? Last time I went thru Waterloo, they were still there.

Or these (http://goo.gl/maps/eQToK)? These have been replaced (as can be seen in the satellite photo) within the past year or two. It was about time, as the old ones emitted an ugly yellowish light. The replacements are LED.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: Stephane Dumas on April 10, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
Quote from: DaBigE on April 10, 2013, 01:42:10 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on April 10, 2013, 12:11:46 AM
Remember the fluorescent streetlight trend?  These had "long", sort of half-cylindrical heads set at about a 25-degree angle, each containing a genuine fluorescent tube.  I think these reached their peak in the late 1960s or so.  Any of these still around?  I seem to recall they were found on Hollywood Blvd. in California at one point.

Like these (http://goo.gl/maps/rWKiF)? Last time I went thru Waterloo, they were still there.

Or these (http://goo.gl/maps/eQToK)? These have been replaced (as can be seen in the satellite photo) within the past year or two. It was about time, as the old ones emitted an ugly yellowish light. The replacements are LED.

I spotted some vintage pictures featuring these fluorescent streetlights via the Skyscraperpage forum taken in Sherbrooke during the late 1960s-early 1970s
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=5379474
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chus.qc.ca%2Fuploads%2Fpics%2FCinema_de_Paris_1.jpg&hash=c3f115bba09ba4206de294c2c2394bfa87cfcf6b)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chus.qc.ca%2Fuploads%2Fpics%2FLa_Tribune_1.jpg&hash=48b5947fa16ec698fd0eca06e3b3f9b657273acf)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chus.qc.ca%2Fuploads%2Fpics%2FPolicier_1.jpg&hash=433e83ec8c88bc1beb75602bd03337945d23605c)
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: xcellntbuy on April 10, 2013, 08:58:16 PM
Those same types of street lights used to line the Gardiner Expressway in Toronto when I took a vacation there in 1983.  They had an orange/yellow glow.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: KEK Inc. on April 10, 2013, 11:21:54 PM
Quote from: xcellntbuy on April 10, 2013, 08:58:16 PM
Those same types of street lights used to line the Gardiner Expressway in Toronto when I took a vacation there in 1983.  They had an orange/yellow glow.

Low Pressure Sodium Vapor?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftpirman1982b.angelfire.com%2Fimages%2FIMG_4176.JPG&hash=3af0c6e187554d27addfd6b17a2ea2f3ae9122b8)

This Phillips design (and its cousins) are all over the following in the United States, though it is getting dated:
Hilo, HI
San Jose, CA
Campbell, CA
Redwood City, CA
Long Beach, CA
San Diego Metro
Springfield, OR
Mass Turnpike

Its older -- more erect -- cousins are seen in the Netherlands, Germany and the UK.
And various random applications.  The Portland Post Office uses these.  That model is fairly old, and is replaced with AELs of similar nature.  They're intent to reduce light pollution, and is usually used near observatories.

Here's the new variant (AEL-SP2)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.acuitybrandslighting.com%2Flibrary%2Fael%2Fimages%2Ffamily%2Froadway-area-sp2_med.jpg&hash=a01b8b0ff09f9bf5db95a582b6ae86010decf45b)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lighting-gallery.net%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10042%2Fnormal_San_Jose_55w_SOX%252B.JPG&hash=cba82d2d148e9f27ce3f63dd460863f31e1ead28)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lighting-gallery.net%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10042%2Fnormal_PICT0050.JPG&hash=3e5541931fd4f5fb755a11cb03dd88e2fdd33b08)

I believe the Hollywood Blvd streetlights were just 3 non-cutout cobraheads combined in a large box.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lighting-gallery.net%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F10042%2Fnormal_Hollywood-1%252B.jpg&hash=15b9e4e36d2ae27a09e3269ebb72a456e72e66c7)
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: StogieGuy7 on April 12, 2013, 03:31:07 PM
I do (fondly) recall seeing those long-tubes fluorescent streetlights used on various major highways and thoroughfares when I was little.  They seemed to disappear VERY quickly during the 1970's, having been replaced with the aforementioned cobra-heads.  My guess is that it had to do with the energy crises of that decade, though fluorescents are really pretty efficient.  My recollection is that they did an amazing job of lighting up a street or highway; far better than anything offered now. 

Even cooler are the old incandescent lamps that may still exist in distant corners of the northeast (especially New England).  The last ones I saw were in 2008, on residential streets in Devon, PA - just south of US 30.  They offered a very pleasant and warm glow that none of the fluorescents (be they sodium or mercury) give you.   All of the streetlamps around the monuments in Washington D.C. were of this variety as of at least 10 years ago (haven't been there in a while).  Again, that yellowy-white glow is very nice and the way it reflected the white stone of the various monuments was just beautiful. 

Never liked the pinky/orange glow of modern streetlights.  Yes, they work, but the light is ugly.  worse still is the orangy-yellow glow given off by streetlights in many parts of the UK and Europe.  They make for a black and white world because you can't see colors very well.  And, IIRC, they're not that bright either. 
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: agentsteel53 on April 12, 2013, 04:17:37 PM
Quote from: KEK Inc. on April 10, 2013, 11:21:54 PM
This Phillips design (and its cousins) are all over the following in the United States, though it is getting dated:
Hilo, HI
San Jose, CA
Campbell, CA
Redwood City, CA
Long Beach, CA
San Diego Metro
Springfield, OR
Mass Turnpike

I was gonna say - they are all over.  but it's just in several areas I drive a lot.  US-101 as you approach San Jose from the south is particularly filled with them.

I just remember once parking my car (red under normal sunlight) at San Jose airport, and noting that it appeared to be gray.  the orange light is, I believe, composed of only two wavelengths very close to each other.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: cpzilliacus on April 12, 2013, 09:20:18 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on April 10, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
Quote from: DaBigE on April 10, 2013, 01:42:10 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on April 10, 2013, 12:11:46 AM
Remember the fluorescent streetlight trend?  These had "long", sort of half-cylindrical heads set at about a 25-degree angle, each containing a genuine fluorescent tube.  I think these reached their peak in the late 1960s or so.  Any of these still around?  I seem to recall they were found on Hollywood Blvd. in California at one point.

Like these (http://goo.gl/maps/rWKiF)? Last time I went thru Waterloo, they were still there.

Or these (http://goo.gl/maps/eQToK)? These have been replaced (as can be seen in the satellite photo) within the past year or two. It was about time, as the old ones emitted an ugly yellowish light. The replacements are LED.

I spotted some vintage pictures featuring these fluorescent streetlights via the Skyscraperpage forum taken in Sherbrooke during the late 1960s-early 1970s
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=5379474
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chus.qc.ca%2Fuploads%2Fpics%2FCinema_de_Paris_1.jpg&hash=c3f115bba09ba4206de294c2c2394bfa87cfcf6b)

I believe those may be Westinghouse Whiteways, or a relative of same.

Maryland used them on the network of approach roads to the Baltimore Harbor Tunnel (I-895 today) - here are images from the south portal not long after the crossing was opened in 1957 (these were replaced by "cobra head" HPS luminaires in the late 1970's or early 1980's):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mdta.maryland.gov%2Fsebin%2Ft%2Fg%2Fbhtold.jpeg&hash=2f8c08116f072b7ffb6a9ae679a3fa9852fb89c4)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dcroads.net%2Fcrossings%2Fharbor-tunnel%2Fimg15.gif&hash=2327aa32d0a87a40c5762cfbe9ee1b6cad1373fa)

More about Whiteways in New York City on this page (http://streetlights.tripod.com/3av.htm) by Jeff Saltzman.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: Pete from Boston on April 13, 2013, 01:23:47 PM
Quote from: Steve on April 08, 2013, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on April 03, 2013, 09:06:07 PM
There is street light still standing in New York City that is old enough to have been originally powered by gas (http://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/tag/patchin-place-gas-lamp/). It now runs on electricity and contains a CFL. How's that for a contrast of old and new?

Unfortunately, you can't just go see it. The street it's on is private and gated.
I beg pardon, you can indeed go see it: http://goo.gl/maps/5ehxm

Boston still has quite a few gas streetlamps, particularly in more "historic" neighborhoods.  The oddest of these are on streets in Charlestown's tiny portion west of I-93, an area that most people probably don't realize isn't the comparatively lowbrow city of Somerville but is all but surrounded by it.  I forget the street, but there are probably three or so isolated gaslamps there, orphaned by half a mile from their brethren and still puffing away.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: deathtopumpkins on April 13, 2013, 05:43:11 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on April 13, 2013, 01:23:47 PM
Quote from: Steve on April 08, 2013, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on April 03, 2013, 09:06:07 PM
There is street light still standing in New York City that is old enough to have been originally powered by gas (http://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/tag/patchin-place-gas-lamp/). It now runs on electricity and contains a CFL. How's that for a contrast of old and new?

Unfortunately, you can't just go see it. The street it's on is private and gated.
I beg pardon, you can indeed go see it: http://goo.gl/maps/5ehxm

Boston still has quite a few gas streetlamps, particularly in more "historic" neighborhoods.  The oddest of these are on streets in Charlestown's tiny portion west of I-93, an area that most people probably don't realize isn't the comparatively lowbrow city of Somerville but is all but surrounded by it.  I forget the street, but there are probably three or so isolated gaslamps there, orphaned by half a mile from their brethren and still puffing away.

Beacon Hill and the North End both also still have gas lamps, if I recall correctly, as does at least part of Back Bay.
We even had one burst into flames a month ago: http://www.universalhub.com/2013/citizen-complaint-day-oh-dear-i-do-believe-gasligh
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existence
Post by: StogieGuy7 on April 19, 2013, 08:27:16 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on April 12, 2013, 09:20:18 PM


Maryland used them on the network of approach roads to the Baltimore Harbor Tunnel (I-895 today) - here are images from the south portal not long after the crossing was opened in 1957 (these were replaced by "cobra head" HPS luminaires in the late 1970's or early 1980's):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mdta.maryland.gov%2Fsebin%2Ft%2Fg%2Fbhtold.jpeg&hash=2f8c08116f072b7ffb6a9ae679a3fa9852fb89c4)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dcroads.net%2Fcrossings%2Fharbor-tunnel%2Fimg15.gif&hash=2327aa32d0a87a40c5762cfbe9ee1b6cad1373fa)

More about Whiteways in New York City on this page (http://streetlights.tripod.com/3av.htm) by Jeff Saltzman.

I sure remember those from various childhood trips up north!!  I think that the whole Harbor Tunnel Thruway had them.  Many of those were used in Arlington, VA in the 1960s and early 1970s as well. 
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: cpzilliacus on April 19, 2013, 10:05:58 PM
Incandescent streetlights can still be found in various (and seemingly random) parts of the District of Columbia.

I found several just the other day in the 1600 block of Allison Street, N.W. (GSV here (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=16th+Street+%26+allison+Street,+n.w.+Washington,+d.c.&hl=en&ll=38.945066,-77.037967&spn=0.00222,0.004823&safe=off&hnear=16th+St+NW+%26+Allison+St+NW,+Washington,+District+of+Columbia+20011&gl=us&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=38.945065,-77.038096&panoid=PF2wWcC7VqP4nte5A9SUhw&cbp=12,85.85,,0,-1.3)).
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: hm insulators on April 23, 2013, 03:49:24 PM
I think some of the roads around Long Beach Harbor in California used to have fluorescent lamps. They might still be there.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: agentsteel53 on April 23, 2013, 04:47:55 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on April 10, 2013, 12:11:46 AM
Remember the fluorescent streetlight trend?  These had "long", sort of half-cylindrical heads set at about a 25-degree angle, each containing a genuine fluorescent tube.  I think these reached their peak in the late 1960s or so.  Any of these still around?  I seem to recall they were found on Hollywood Blvd. in California at one point.

Germany-Poland border on A15/18. 

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/blog/photos/121151.jpg)

spot where the international boundary is!
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: NJRoadfan on April 23, 2013, 06:32:39 PM
Incandescent street lights are still very common in northern NJ suburbs. Some even appear on GSP on/off ramps on the northern section. The streets of South Orange NJ are still entirely lit by gas lamps. The big florescent fixtures likely were killed off due to their high rates of failure. The ballasts likely weren't all that reliable compared to a typical mercury vapor or high pressure sodium.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: roadman65 on June 14, 2013, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on April 12, 2013, 09:20:18 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on April 10, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
Quote from: DaBigE on April 10, 2013, 01:42:10 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on April 10, 2013, 12:11:46 AM
Remember the fluorescent streetlight trend?  These had "long", sort of half-cylindrical heads set at about a 25-degree angle, each containing a genuine fluorescent tube.  I think these reached their peak in the late 1960s or so.  Any of these still around?  I seem to recall they were found on Hollywood Blvd. in California at one point.

Like these (http://goo.gl/maps/rWKiF)? Last time I went thru Waterloo, they were still there.

Or these (http://goo.gl/maps/eQToK)? These have been replaced (as can be seen in the satellite photo) within the past year or two. It was about time, as the old ones emitted an ugly yellowish light. The replacements are LED.

I spotted some vintage pictures featuring these fluorescent streetlights via the Skyscraperpage forum taken in Sherbrooke during the late 1960s-early 1970s
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=5379474
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chus.qc.ca%2Fuploads%2Fpics%2FCinema_de_Paris_1.jpg&hash=c3f115bba09ba4206de294c2c2394bfa87cfcf6b)

I believe those may be Westinghouse Whiteways, or a relative of same.

Maryland used them on the network of approach roads to the Baltimore Harbor Tunnel (I-895 today) - here are images from the south portal not long after the crossing was opened in 1957 (these were replaced by "cobra head" HPS luminaires in the late 1970's or early 1980's):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mdta.maryland.gov%2Fsebin%2Ft%2Fg%2Fbhtold.jpeg&hash=2f8c08116f072b7ffb6a9ae679a3fa9852fb89c4)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dcroads.net%2Fcrossings%2Fharbor-tunnel%2Fimg15.gif&hash=2327aa32d0a87a40c5762cfbe9ee1b6cad1373fa)

More about Whiteways in New York City on this page (http://streetlights.tripod.com/3av.htm) by Jeff Saltzman.
I remember these when I was little.  These types of lights were even common in New Jersey in many business districts. 

The Garden State Parkway, back in the 1970s had the regular bulb type as well as the streets of Westfield and Scotch Plains had them even in the late 80s.  Then, I also remember that they were in use in the Hampton Roads Area on many streets and what were cool about them is the fact they were dim and gave off just the right amount of light.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: KEK Inc. on June 14, 2013, 10:15:29 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 23, 2013, 04:47:55 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on April 10, 2013, 12:11:46 AM
Remember the fluorescent streetlight trend?  These had "long", sort of half-cylindrical heads set at about a 25-degree angle, each containing a genuine fluorescent tube.  I think these reached their peak in the late 1960s or so.  Any of these still around?  I seem to recall they were found on Hollywood Blvd. in California at one point.

Germany-Poland border on A15/18. 

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/blog/photos/121151.jpg)

spot where the international boundary is!
Municipalities and states have different standards of street lighting here in the U.S.  Ever since I was 3, I could always spot city limit lines due to the mast design and cobraheads used on a street.  Santa Clara and San Jose has an interesting compromise on Steven's Creek Blvd melding the two streetlight designs.

Here's a typical San Jose streetlight.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi205.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb153%2FKEK_INC%2Fstevenscreek2-sj_zpsfe86476b.png&hash=55de3959e2746bbcc8f8e8c41d7952ac6c68adda)

Here's a typical Santa Clara streetlight. 
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Here's Steven's Creek Blvd between the two municipalities.  Notice how they kept the material and mast pole style from San Jose, used the mast arm from Santa Clara, and used a mix of conventional HPS cobraheads and LPS lamps (unfortunately, this picture doesn't show any of those, but they exist throughout this stretch)?
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 12, 2013, 04:17:37 PM
Quote from: KEK Inc. on April 10, 2013, 11:21:54 PM
This Phillips design (and its cousins) are all over the following in the United States, though it is getting dated:
Hilo, HI
San Jose, CA
Campbell, CA
Redwood City, CA
Long Beach, CA
San Diego Metro
Springfield, OR
Mass Turnpike

I was gonna say - they are all over.  but it's just in several areas I drive a lot.  US-101 as you approach San Jose from the south is particularly filled with them.

I just remember once parking my car (red under normal sunlight) at San Jose airport, and noting that it appeared to be gray.  the orange light is, I believe, composed of only two wavelengths very close to each other.

Interestingly enough, Southern California uses a mix of HPS and LPS on all of their freeways.  Northern California still uses standard HPS (and now LED in Cupertino at CA-85 and on CA-92 across the bay) on their freeways, despite many of the municipalities having low pressure sodium lamps.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: roadman65 on June 15, 2013, 07:25:32 AM
You are right about that.  In New Jersey along Clinton Avenue in Newark and Irvington, I used to be able to spot where the city line was between the two corporations by the street lighting.  Now its almost impossible as Irvington used to use fluorescant  lighting at the time, and Newark was using mercury vapor using standard dome assemblies.  Now the former converted to high pressure sodium vapor lights that also use the domes as well as Newark also replacing the mercury with sodium both, I believe, using the same type of mast arm.

Street signs, traffic signals, and street lights always told me, usually, when you crossed boundaries from one town to another.  In fact South Orange, NJ still uses gas lit street lamps that gives away this community and of course NYC has the old style double guys that lets you know when you cross out of Nassau and Westchester Counties into the NY City in New York State.  That can be a life saver when making a right turn on red as in NYC its illegal and the default law there!
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: KEK Inc. on June 15, 2013, 01:35:58 PM
Well, many municipalities favor specific companies for HPS lighting.  And within those companies, specific models are desired.   There's also cut-out, semi cut-out, and non cut-out cobraheads.  For example, California and Washington pretty much always uses full cut-out cobraheads on their freeways and state maintained streetlighting on roads (no convexed dome on the streetlight), while Missouri generally uses non cut-out.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: brownpelican on June 15, 2013, 02:45:20 PM
These lights still line Tulane Avenue in New Orleans.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans,+LA&ll=29.967009,-90.100143&spn=0.005437,0.006899&hnear=New+Orleans,+Orleans,+Louisiana&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=29.967054,-90.102287&panoid=zoD5XUE_PL1HZmpAO63u6A&cbp=12,275.87,,0,-16.08 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans,+LA&ll=29.967009,-90.100143&spn=0.005437,0.006899&hnear=New+Orleans,+Orleans,+Louisiana&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=29.967054,-90.102287&panoid=zoD5XUE_PL1HZmpAO63u6A&cbp=12,275.87,,0,-16.08)

Much of the city has this type of street lights:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans,+LA&ll=29.969305,-90.093062&spn=0.005474,0.006899&hnear=New+Orleans,+Orleans,+Louisiana&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=29.969234,-90.095174&panoid=r3hxzzzJ5FHuFqbk19CzuQ&cbp=12,199.16,,0,-4.75 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans,+LA&ll=29.969305,-90.093062&spn=0.005474,0.006899&hnear=New+Orleans,+Orleans,+Louisiana&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=29.969234,-90.095174&panoid=r3hxzzzJ5FHuFqbk19CzuQ&cbp=12,199.16,,0,-4.75)

These have been along Canal Street downtown for decades.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans,+LA&ll=29.953638,-90.068525&spn=0.003872,0.003449&hnear=New+Orleans,+Orleans,+Louisiana&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=29.953578,-90.069466&panoid=-EG61C3XtIAnBEiPZEw1PA&cbp=12,175.39,,0,-2.2 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans,+LA&ll=29.953638,-90.068525&spn=0.003872,0.003449&hnear=New+Orleans,+Orleans,+Louisiana&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=29.953578,-90.069466&panoid=-EG61C3XtIAnBEiPZEw1PA&cbp=12,175.39,,0,-2.2)

Here are the St. Charles Ave. lights:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans,+LA&ll=29.927583,-90.089457&spn=0.010953,0.013797&hnear=New+Orleans,+Orleans,+Louisiana&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=29.927479,-90.093681&panoid=PTuElcdzfRpxdykN-vy5Ig&cbp=12,227.49,,0,-4.23 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans,+LA&ll=29.927583,-90.089457&spn=0.010953,0.013797&hnear=New+Orleans,+Orleans,+Louisiana&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=29.927479,-90.093681&panoid=PTuElcdzfRpxdykN-vy5Ig&cbp=12,227.49,,0,-4.23)
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: jfs1988 on June 16, 2013, 07:32:40 PM
I always wondered about those orange rectangle street lights. When I am driving along I-5 or I-15 southbound in southern Orange County or southern Riverside County, & start seeing those lights, it indicates me that I am leaving the Los Angeles Metropolitan Area (Los Angeles County, Orange County, Ventura County, southwestern San Bernardino/western Riverside County "AKA Inland Empire region") & entering the San Diego Metropolitan Area. I hope they dont get phased out in the future, they look really awesome at night.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: roadman65 on June 16, 2013, 09:31:12 PM
I am surprised no one has brought up the classic "Hershey Kisses" street lamps in Downtown Hershey, PA!  They have been around for many many decades.  The only change to them is from mercury vapor to high pressure sodium lighting, but the poles and assemblies are original though.
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: Truvelo on June 18, 2013, 12:48:16 PM
Arizona also has low pressure sodium.

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Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: PHLBOS on June 18, 2013, 04:17:17 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on April 10, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
Quote from: DaBigE on April 10, 2013, 01:42:10 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on April 10, 2013, 12:11:46 AM
Remember the fluorescent streetlight trend?  These had "long", sort of half-cylindrical heads set at about a 25-degree angle, each containing a genuine fluorescent tube.  I think these reached their peak in the late 1960s or so.  Any of these still around?  I seem to recall they were found on Hollywood Blvd. in California at one point.

Like these (http://goo.gl/maps/rWKiF)? Last time I went thru Waterloo, they were still there.

Or these (http://goo.gl/maps/eQToK)? These have been replaced (as can be seen in the satellite photo) within the past year or two. It was about time, as the old ones emitted an ugly yellowish light. The replacements are LED.

I spotted some vintage pictures featuring these fluorescent streetlights via the Skyscraperpage forum taken in Sherbrooke during the late 1960s-early 1970s
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=5379474
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At one time, the entire Boston Extension of the Mass Pike (I-90) (from I-95 to I-93) had those type of street lights (that light up as a dark orange) along it.  Today, only the section east of the Prudential Center/Tunnel, still has those old-style street lights.  The rest of them were converted to sodium vapor cobraheads. 
Title: Re: Old Streetlights still in existance
Post by: Henry on June 19, 2013, 12:03:04 PM
Chicago still has lots of Crimefighter luminaires on its streets that consist of normal full-cutoff cobraheads with bucket-shaped refractors placed underneath. They usually come in two sizes: a small 150-watt version, and a larger 310-watt one, both HPS. IIRC, they were first introduced in 1970.