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Title: SW Arterial might shift from city to state
Post by: tchafe1978 on April 11, 2013, 11:02:00 PM
http://www.thonline.com/news/breaking/article_8b68c8b2-a133-11e2-82a9-0019bb30f31a.html

Looks like the Southwest Arterial in Dubuque might finally get done sometime this century, with the state taking it over, and shifting US 52 onto a new routing.
Title: Re: SW Arterial might shift from city to state
Post by: Revive 755 on April 12, 2013, 09:16:04 PM
I could see IA 32 being turned over in exchange for the SW Arterial, but both IA 32 and part of US 52?  So IA 3 could end up with a hanging south end (depending how well it is signed after the transfer of maintenance?)

Title: Re: SW Arterial might shift from city to state
Post by: iowahighways on April 13, 2013, 11:15:04 AM
I'm not a big fan of the proposal, for these reasons:
As for putting US 52 on the SW Arterial, remember that US 52 is signed north/south in Iowa, so there will be two stretches -- a newly-created "wrong-way" multiplex with US 61/151 and part of a multiplex with US 20 -- where northbound traffic will be going south (and vice versa). If anything, US 20 should be rerouted on the SW Arterial, even though plans for a full southern bypass and new southern bridge have been dead for years.
Title: Re: SW Arterial might shift from city to state
Post by: tchafe1978 on April 13, 2013, 12:38:40 PM
Even though everything says the Iowa DOT isn't "in the business of local streets", and likely wouldn't do this, but why not just have IA 3 run through downtown on US 52's current route? Then the swap of the NW Arterial for the SW Arterial might be more balanced mileage-wise.
Title: Re: SW Arterial might shift from city to state
Post by: pianocello on April 14, 2013, 02:59:14 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on April 12, 2013, 09:16:04 PM
So IA 3 could end up with a hanging south end (depending how well it is signed after the transfer of maintenance?)

Last I was in Dubuque (2008), IA 3 was pretty well signed. I don't think that would be much of a problem.

My problem with this is signing US-52 on the arterial, for the same reasons that iowahighways gave. To me, the best number for the arterial would be an extension of IA-32.
Title: Re: SW Arterial might shift from city to state
Post by: iowahighways on August 10, 2013, 10:59:21 AM
It's official: the Iowa DOT and city of Dubuque have made an agreement to have the state build the Southwest Arterial. US 52 will be rerouted onto the Arterial and along US 20 and IA 136, and IA 3 will have a hanging end at the north city limits of Dubuque. The article does not mention what will happen to IA 32, but the map in the video implies that it will be decommissioned as well.

Iowa DOT to take over construction of Dubuque's Southwest Arterial (http://www.kwwl.com/story/23097439/2013/08/09/iowa-dot-to-take-over-construction-of-dubuques-southwest-arterial), with video from KWWL

Going back in time, here is the Dubuque Telegraph-Herald article summarizing the restoration of US 52 after a US 20/52 multiplex was attempted from 1964-1967, to the dismay of businesses in northern Dubuque: Highway 52 Is Its Old Self Again (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=eQdRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=xsAMAAAAIBAJ&dq=highway-52%20dubuque&pg=6692%2C1736329) (October 12, 1967). Unfortunately, Google does not have the T-H issues dealing with the relocation itself.
Title: Re: SW Arterial might shift from city to state
Post by: mgk920 on August 10, 2013, 02:49:43 PM
Can I safely assume that the places where US 52 will be making its new turns will be conventional signalized intersections and not nice free-flowing interchanges (as would be done in many other states)?

:banghead:

Mike
Title: Re: SW Arterial might shift from city to state
Post by: tchafe1978 on August 11, 2013, 08:58:59 AM
Wouldn't IA 3 be able to be routed onto the Northwest Arterial and replace IA 32? That would solve the problem of IA 3 having a hanging end.