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Title: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: rawr apples on May 11, 2009, 01:56:54 AM
Occasionally for whatever reason, a freeway is rebuilt/rerouted sometimes leaving stubs or stretches of pavement that go unused for years. Other times the pavement is broken up and replaced by grass.

The Pennsylvania turnpike has a 10 mile long section of abandoned pavement including two tunnels. It starts in Breezewood and continues east
http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=chrome&q=breezewood,+pa&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=Vb0HStLcM4fotgO1vcWJBg&ll=39.996208,-78.233857&spn=0.012773,0.019312&t=k&z=16&iwloc=A (http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=chrome&q=breezewood,+pa&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=Vb0HStLcM4fotgO1vcWJBg&ll=39.996208,-78.233857&spn=0.012773,0.019312&t=k&z=16&iwloc=A)


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3257%2F2620584657_02da83ee75_b.jpg&hash=40a47b1a75723729d960b4ad143035cec9fe3144)

One of the tunnels
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm2.static.flickr.com%2F1354%2F545671828_4247eff0d2.jpg&hash=6344b8b11d1701d3f1b6fd0e00c94f7448cf78f8)

Has anyone actually been to it? or any other type of abandoned pavement?

Out of countless number of times i've passed through breezewood I've never known it was there.
Not until recently when the chance of me taking that drive again anytime soon is slim to none

Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Chris on May 11, 2009, 02:48:25 AM
How about that US 40 in Baltimore? It only runs for a couple of city blocks, depressed and all.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: rawr apples on May 11, 2009, 03:05:48 AM
That's still in use though. I'm talking about totally abandoned, not used, not maintained, crumbling pavement, etc.

Or full interchanges with unused slip roads.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: yanksfan6129 on May 11, 2009, 06:46:26 AM
In New Jersey, we have a cloverleaf interchange on NJ 24 that was built but never put into use because it never got connected to Eisenhower Parkway.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Bryant5493 on May 11, 2009, 08:08:47 AM
One example of an abandoned freeway project is Freedom Parkway/East Freedom Parkway (SR 10/42 Connector).

Cue video to 4:41 to 6:18.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi24wz7oLUQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi24wz7oLUQ)

Another abandoned freeway is the eastern end of Arthur Langford Jr. Parkway (SR 166).

The stub is at 4:00.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iqu5riUKK4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iqu5riUKK4)

Be well,

Bryant
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Norn-Iron on May 11, 2009, 12:15:46 PM
From Northern Ireland (the home of abandoned roads) I bring you the M2...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg16.imageshack.us%2Fimg16%2F8273%2F20061206m2j10north.jpg&hash=0a175141c83e8a4715e445a73b90323912ab82df)

The Ballee Road East was built to temporarily connect the current A26 to the M2 at junction 10 (pictured above). Junction 10 was constructed as a roundabout with two overbridges ready to take the completed M2. However, the motorway plan was axed in 1975, meaning that the route under the bridges have never been used (pictured below), and the Ballee Road East the main road for the past 30 years.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg24.imageshack.us%2Fimg24%2F8499%2F20061206m2a26north.jpg&hash=3b9ebce10437574911bbe377cea4a58b64894e6b)

There is now a plan to re-route the Ballee Road East down under these redundant bridges so that it flows directly onto the M2. This change will substantially reduce congestion and is so obvious that it is amazing that it wasn't done long before now!

Another part of the M2 is this strech of tarmac that streches for a mile alongside the south-bound carriageway, this was orginally part of the 1960 motorway plans for the M2 to be extended here and another motorway M22 to coonect to.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg10.imageshack.us%2Fimg10%2F8795%2F20061206m2ghostjunction.jpg&hash=f18180fe160ce969a5cfbbd5d9a1256ca44e20c7)

(Images are not mine)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Michael on May 11, 2009, 03:33:42 PM
I-690 in DeWitt, NY (map (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.055468,-76.053286&spn=0.013155,0.027466&t=h&z=16))
I-690 was originally planned to be extended east to either I-90 or NY 290.

NY 5, Camillus bypass (both ends)
The western end (map (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.035474,-76.322976&spn=0.006579,0.013733&t=h&z=17)) was supposed to continue as a freeway to Auburn.  The eastern end (map (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.050153,-76.224507&spn=0.006578,0.013733&t=h&z=17)) was supposed to loop to the south and connect with I-81.

US 11/15/522 in Selinsgrove, PA (map (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.81873,-76.852627&spn=0.013624,0.027466&t=h&z=16))
The Selinsgrove Bypass was supposed to continue to the north.  The interchange is currently only half used, but there are plans to extend the freeway (http://www.csvt.com) to PA 147 and I-80/180.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: deathtopumpkins on May 11, 2009, 04:30:23 PM
Micheal: On I-690, I don't see any sort of abandoned ROW...
The last one's a real nice example though!

I've got one... I-189 in Burlington, VT. Quite a bit of unused pavement, including an interchange where all but 2 of the ramps are unused. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=burlington+VT&sll=37.066608,-76.306866&sspn=0.012259,0.019312&ie=UTF8&ll=44.44812,-73.210294&spn=0.010968,0.019312&t=h&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=burlington+VT&sll=37.066608,-76.306866&sspn=0.012259,0.019312&ie=UTF8&ll=44.44812,-73.210294&spn=0.010968,0.019312&t=h&z=16)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: njroadhorse on May 11, 2009, 05:17:14 PM
There's the Industrial Highway in Pittsburgh.  In the 60s and 70s, this was planned as an alternative to I-376 and the West End Bridge, and as a connector between Crafton and McKees Rocks.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gribblenation.com%2Fswparoads%2Fcoulda%2FCraftonroadN2.jpg&hash=39d9eb9c2981f4c88fca3c4b2416a48a9d421f18)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: yanksfan6129 on May 11, 2009, 05:18:51 PM
An important abandoned freeway would have to be Long Island Motor Parkway. It was one of the first roads in the world to show modern freeway-like characteristics, but it eventually went by the wayside after design advances by Robert Moses and his parkways made the road obsolete. That only took about 20 or 30 years.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: ComputerGuy on May 11, 2009, 07:34:18 PM
SR 520 at Lake Washington Blvd., Seattle....was going to be the R.H. Thompson Expressway, but was canceled...ghost ramp right here:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fb%2Fbc%2FI_520_Ghost_Ramp.jpg&hash=759ed0bb41d919b7bf16834d02650392f04ba520)

(Wikipedia credit, Allynfolksjr)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: froggie on May 11, 2009, 09:15:30 PM
QuoteMicheal: On I-690, I don't see any sort of abandoned ROW...

There's no abandoned right-of-way per se, but there are four ramps that serve a NYSDOT maintenance shed (the area between I-481 and Butternut Dr) which were originally intended for the freeway extension Michael referred to (which according to earlier Syracuse planning docs, would have been a relocated NY 5, not an I-690 extension, and would've extended to Chittenango...a later 1990s proposal would've gone only to NY 290).

QuoteI've got one... I-189 in Burlington, VT. Quite a bit of unused pavement, including an interchange where all but 2 of the ramps are unused.

6-ramp partial-cloverleaf.  Three of the ramps are in use.  The other three aren't.  Been through that interchange a bit in recent years.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Sykotyk on May 11, 2009, 09:28:49 PM
Glad this was brought up as I was going to post a few myself regarding my various trips across the country:

IL-6 north of Peoria has an overpass designed for IL-6 to continue north (I assume the freeway would've continued along IL-29 to the I-180 boondoggle).

US 67 and US 63 in Missouri intersect at a massive interchange that lacks the continuation of US-67 north of the interchange (when US-67 is upgraded to expressway/freeway from Little Rock to I-55 south of St. Louis, it will be a great shortcut from I-40/I-55). But, right now, the overpasses and ramps sit idle.

Sykotyk
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on May 11, 2009, 10:17:34 PM
Quote from: Sykotyk on May 11, 2009, 09:28:49 PM
IL-6 north of Peoria has an overpass designed for IL-6 to continue north (I assume the freeway would've continued along IL-29 to the I-180 boondoggle).

I've seen that before, and I had been wondering what the deal was with it. Here's a Google Street View image:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.821539,-89.572821&spn=0,359.922752&z=14&layer=c&cbll=40.821321,-89.572868&panoid=igj245QaypYqqR8ZAYoGhA&cbp=12,346.03,,0,-3.8 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.821539,-89.572821&spn=0,359.922752&z=14&layer=c&cbll=40.821321,-89.572868&panoid=igj245QaypYqqR8ZAYoGhA&cbp=12,346.03,,0,-3.8)

Dead end sign on the IL 6 mainline:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.822448,-89.572821&spn=0,359.922752&z=14&layer=c&cbll=40.822657,-89.572763&panoid=igj245QaypYqqR8ZAYoGhA&cbp=12,319.53,,0,-2.4 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.822448,-89.572821&spn=0,359.922752&z=14&layer=c&cbll=40.822657,-89.572763&panoid=igj245QaypYqqR8ZAYoGhA&cbp=12,319.53,,0,-2.4)

And you can see what looks to be a ghost ramp in this image (there is an empty overhead gantry southbound just before this):

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.823877,-89.569559&spn=0,359.922752&z=14&layer=c&cbll=40.823944,-89.569904&panoid=igj245QaypYqqR8ZAYoGhA&cbp=12,316.03,,0,-3.1 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.823877,-89.569559&spn=0,359.922752&z=14&layer=c&cbll=40.823944,-89.569904&panoid=igj245QaypYqqR8ZAYoGhA&cbp=12,316.03,,0,-3.1)

And finally, a satellite image:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.824381,-89.571619&spn=0.007031,0.019312&t=k&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.824381,-89.571619&spn=0.007031,0.019312&t=k&z=16)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: PAHighways on May 11, 2009, 11:05:08 PM
Quote from: njroadhorse on May 11, 2009, 05:17:14 PMThere's the Industrial Highway in Pittsburgh.  In the 60s and 70s, this was planned as an alternative to I-376 and the West End Bridge, and as a connector between Crafton and McKees Rocks.

It was planned as a much bigger project called the Chartiers Valley Expressway which would have basically been a loop following said valley.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: PAHighways on May 11, 2009, 11:21:06 PM
Quote from: rawr apples on May 11, 2009, 01:56:54 AMThe Pennsylvania turnpike has a 10 mile long section of abandoned pavement including two tunnels. It starts in Breezewood and continues east
http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=chrome&q=breezewood,+pa&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=Vb0HStLcM4fotgO1vcWJBg&ll=39.996208,-78.233857&spn=0.012773,0.019312&t=k&z=16&iwloc=A (http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=chrome&q=breezewood,+pa&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=Vb0HStLcM4fotgO1vcWJBg&ll=39.996208,-78.233857&spn=0.012773,0.019312&t=k&z=16&iwloc=A)

Has anyone actually been to it? or any other type of abandoned pavement?

Out of countless number of times i've passed through breezewood I've never known it was there.
Not until recently when the chance of me taking that drive again anytime soon is slim to none

There are many stubs and unfinished sections in Pennsylvania, although the number has been dwindling in recent years with the completion of projects.

Attendees to all of the Pennsylvania Road Enthusiast Meets in 2004 saw at least one:  Woodhaven Road (http://philadelphia.pahighways.com/expressways/wroad.html) and Schuylkill Parkway (http://www.delmarvahighways.com/sepa04.htm) during SEPA in May, the "Goat Path Expressway (http://harrisburg.pahighways.com/expressways/cancelled/l-nexpressway.html)" during Harrisburg in September, and the abandoned Turnpike (http://www.pahighways.com/toll/abandonedturnpike.html) was the entire focus of the SWPA in October.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: TheStranger on May 12, 2009, 01:31:32 PM
The never completed I-80 realignment from the 1970s involves bridges now used for the light rail line in Sacramento's Del Paso Heights neighborhood, approximately between the Roseville Road and Watt/I-80 stations.  Some of it is in use as station access road, others just sit abandoned.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Greybear on May 12, 2009, 10:49:23 PM
QuoteUS 67 and US 63 in Missouri intersect at a massive interchange that lacks the continuation of US-67 north of the interchange (when US-67 is upgraded to expressway/freeway from Little Rock to I-55 south of St. Louis, it will be a great shortcut from I-40/I-55). But, right now, the overpasses and ramps sit idle.

US 67 and US 63 intersect at Hoxie, AR, not in Missouri.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Sykotyk on May 12, 2009, 11:25:27 PM
Oops. Thanks for that, had them in my head from talking about the expressways in Missouri.

Sykotyk
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Alex on May 13, 2009, 11:19:23 AM
This topic (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=152.0) has already been done.

Responding to some of the posts above:

The stub end of Illinois 6 may be used at some point. I posted a couple of photos and wrote about the freeway proposals on the blog (https://www.aaroads.com/blog/?p=160).




The Interstate 189 stretch of abandoned freeway is part of the defunct Southern Connector (revived as the Champlain Parkway, but still very uncertain due to a superfund site). We did extensive research on it at the University of Vermont library in 2007 and created a page on Burlington here (http://www.northeastroads.com/burlington.html). If you have not looked it before, you will be surprised as to how many freeways and expressways were planned in 1965 for Burlington that never made it to fruition.




Adding to the links that Jeff already posted, from the same Harrisburg road meet, coverage of the Pennsylvania 23 "Goat Path Expressway" (http://www.northeastroads.com/harrisburg_meet.html).
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: tchafe1978 on May 26, 2009, 10:40:49 AM
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=42.962594,-87.963302&spn=0.003125,0.006866&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=42.962594,-87.963302&spn=0.003125,0.006866&z=17)

On the southern side of Milwaukee along the I-894 bypass, there is a set of abandoned ramps that were supposed to connect to the planned but never built Stadium South Freeway. The third level ramp from eastbound I-894 to northbound Stadium Freeway has been torn down, but the remaining three ramps are used by city buses to access a park and ride lot.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: vdeane on May 26, 2009, 06:32:37 PM
I'm suprised nobody has mentioned I-95 in MA in either thread.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=42.212388~-71.135166&style=h&lvl=15&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=42.212388~-71.135166&style=h&lvl=15&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Stephane Dumas on May 27, 2009, 07:28:45 PM
A-40 in Quebec city was planned to pass thru Ancienne-Lorette instead of using Henri-IV autoroute and Charest autoroute http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=46.812162,-71.337748&spn=0.019444,0.053859&z=15 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=46.812162,-71.337748&spn=0.019444,0.053859&z=15)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: bugo on May 27, 2009, 07:52:05 PM
There's the infamous abandoned section of the Will Rogers Turnpike (I-44) in Catoosa, OK, that still has some green guide signs on it.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 27, 2009, 08:35:24 PM
what about half-abandoned expressways?  old US-66/91/395 going up into Cajon Pass in California has only two lanes maintained.  The other two are out of service.  66 in Illinois parallel to I-55 has similar segments.

in western Oklahoma, near Erick, there is an abandoned four-lane US-66 expressway section.  I can't find it offhand on Google Satellite Images; I think it's sufficiently overgrown with vegetation as to be rendered invisible.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: SSOWorld on May 27, 2009, 08:37:53 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 27, 2009, 08:35:24 PM
in western Oklahoma, near Erick, there is an abandoned four-lane US-66 expressway section.  I can't find it offhand on Google Satellite Images; I think it's sufficiently overgrown with vegetation as to be rendered invisible.
Maybe Google found a new way to censor things :P
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: US71 on July 17, 2009, 02:21:32 PM
Not a Freeway, but a Tollway here:

Abandoned section of I-44/ Will Rogers Turnpike NE of Tulsa.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2552%2F3690432279_10c2f1874d.jpg&hash=92aa0b504a28f19155537163fbc8d73676a024c5)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Chris on July 17, 2009, 02:26:27 PM
^^ Here's a Google Earth view  :cool:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi30.tinypic.com%2F2j4t3ic.jpg&hash=1f8f20d61782fb539b4ef519b2ad590608e2d10c)

Interesting piece of roadway.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Truvelo on July 17, 2009, 02:30:45 PM
There even appears to be some signs still in situ.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: US71 on July 17, 2009, 02:36:45 PM
Quote from: Truvelo on July 17, 2009, 02:30:45 PM
There even appears to be some signs still in situ.

Yes, there are. You can see one just to the left of center of this photo

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2518%2F3691239900_d3d38a8838.jpg&hash=fbf10e33f83e11edce225063f5f43d44fc73c7dd)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Mergingtraffic on July 17, 2009, 04:33:33 PM
Why and how long ago was this section of 44 abandaned?
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: US71 on July 17, 2009, 04:42:57 PM
Quote from: doofy103 on July 17, 2009, 04:33:33 PM
Why and how long ago was this section of 44 abandaned?

2002, I believe.  44 got rerouted to intersect with the new Creek Turnpike. 
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: SSOWorld on July 17, 2009, 05:03:36 PM
Right after I drove it  :wow:

Curious to why things get left abandoned - if one builds they ought to clean up the mess (damn gov't spending)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Revive 755 on July 17, 2009, 08:20:18 PM
Quote from: Master son on July 17, 2009, 05:03:36 PM
Curious to why things get left abandoned - if one builds they ought to clean up the mess (damn gov't spending)

It could still serve some other uses, such as part of a new airport, an access road for some development (could probably use some of the old pavement in place), or a drag race strip.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: US71 on July 17, 2009, 11:00:58 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 17, 2009, 08:20:18 PM

It could still serve some other uses, such as part of a new airport, an access road for some development (could probably use some of the old pavement in place), or a drag race strip.

Or for some politician to talk about how he's going to fix the roads (happened!)  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Sykotyk on July 17, 2009, 11:47:13 PM
Yeah, they wanted continuous toll roads from Missouri to just west of Oklahoma City.

I like going through Tulsa, though. Took the Creek Turnpike once, not worth it.

Sykotyk
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: US71 on July 18, 2009, 12:02:04 AM
Quote from: Sykotyk on July 17, 2009, 11:47:13 PM
Yeah, they wanted continuous toll roads from Missouri to just west of Oklahoma City.

I like going through Tulsa, though. Took the Creek Turnpike once, not worth it.

Sykotyk

I've driven Indian Nation a few times: it's boring.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Scott5114 on July 20, 2009, 04:39:24 AM
Quote from: Sykotyk on July 17, 2009, 11:47:13 PM
I like going through Tulsa, though. Took the Creek Turnpike once, not worth it.

I certainly disagree. I lived in Springfield Mo for a year and visited friends and family in Central OK regularly... the Skelly Drive was a big enough pain I used the Creek whenever I could afford to!
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: bugo on July 20, 2009, 10:07:04 PM
Quote from: US71 on July 18, 2009, 12:02:04 AM
Quote from: Sykotyk on July 17, 2009, 11:47:13 PM
Yeah, they wanted continuous toll roads from Missouri to just west of Oklahoma City.

I like going through Tulsa, though. Took the Creek Turnpike once, not worth it.

Sykotyk

I've driven Indian Nation a few times: it's boring.

I've been on the portion north of US 270 and I don't find it boring, rather it is quite scenic.  And the SL is 75, which makes it even better.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: bugo on July 20, 2009, 10:58:17 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 20, 2009, 04:39:24 AM
Quote from: Sykotyk on July 17, 2009, 11:47:13 PM
I like going through Tulsa, though. Took the Creek Turnpike once, not worth it.

I certainly disagree. I lived in Springfield Mo for a year and visited friends and family in Central OK regularly... the Skelly Drive was a big enough pain I used the Creek whenever I could afford to!

I live right off of Skelly and yes, it is a pain in the ass.  The biggest problem are LLBs and rude truckers.  If I were King of Oklahoma I would ban trucks from I-44 between I-244 west and OK 51.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: mightyace on July 21, 2009, 01:20:34 AM
^^^
Who or what are LLBs?
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: rickmastfan67 on July 21, 2009, 02:55:10 AM
Quote from: mightyace on July 21, 2009, 01:20:34 AM
^^^
Who or what are LLBs?

Taking a stab in the dark here, but "Left Lane Blockers" maybe?
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Chris on July 21, 2009, 03:00:08 AM
Left Lane Bandits  :spin:
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Sykotyk on July 21, 2009, 07:16:19 AM
That's the fatal flaw with routing the mainline through the middle of cities.

Had we known the problems we'd have today, most interstates, hopefully, would've been routed just outside urban centers with only loops (a la Rochester) or spurs to access the urban center.

There's no denying the Ohio Turnpike has it right. For all the adjacent large cities, you don't cross through any directly.

Plus, being further from the city center, there's usually larger right-of-ways, which means expansion isn't as costly or inconveniencing.

Sykotyk
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: bugo on July 21, 2009, 10:43:01 AM
Quote from: Sykotyk on July 21, 2009, 07:16:19 AM
That's the fatal flaw with routing the mainline through the middle of cities.

Had we known the problems we'd have today, most interstates, hopefully, would've been routed just outside urban centers with only loops (a la Rochester) or spurs to access the urban center.

There's no denying the Ohio Turnpike has it right. For all the adjacent large cities, you don't cross through any directly.

Plus, being further from the city center, there's usually larger right-of-ways, which means expansion isn't as costly or inconveniencing.

Sykotyk

The irony is that I-44 doesn't go through downtown Tulsa, I-244 does.  When Skelly was built in the 1950s, it went through the edge of town.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Chris on July 21, 2009, 11:16:34 AM
Quote from: bugo on July 21, 2009, 10:43:01 AM
The irony is that I-44 doesn't go through downtown Tulsa, I-244 does.  When Skelly was built in the 1950s, it went through the edge of town.

I guess this is relatively rare. Most downtowns are served by the primary Interstates, not by auxiliary Interstates only.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Duke87 on July 21, 2009, 07:54:22 PM
Quote from: Chris on July 21, 2009, 11:16:34 AM
I guess this is relatively rare. Most downtowns are served by the primary Interstates, not by auxiliary Interstates only.

There are several more examples of cities with no primary interstates going through the city center. Pittsburgh, DC, Trenton, New York...

Of course, there are also many cities where the primary route goes downtown arbitrarily. 70 could skip St Louis by swapping it with 270. 75 could skip Macon by swapping it with 475. In both of those cases, the "bypass" is actually shorter.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 21, 2009, 10:32:17 PM
Trenton, major world metropolis?

reminds me of this SAS in-flight map.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.artistjake.com%2Flj%2Fw47704.jpg&hash=ecd3c2a741c04cda08005904f5fb70692e701b54)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: njroadhorse on July 22, 2009, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 21, 2009, 10:32:17 PM
Trenton, major world metropolis?
Ugh, the last thing Jersey needs is another metropolis :crazy:
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Revive 755 on November 13, 2011, 12:10:58 PM
I'm wondering if Old US 40 had a couple of sections that were once four lanes with a narrow median in Missouri, but turned back to two lanes once I-70 was constructed.  The ROW looks awful large in some of these areas:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.918485,-91.723051&spn=0.056696,0.132093&t=m&z=14&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=38.918472,-91.723148&panoid=AZLvbUeVKc_xAa9YJap_Qw&cbp=12,307.02,,0,2.34 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.918485,-91.723051&spn=0.056696,0.132093&t=m&z=14&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=38.918472,-91.723148&panoid=AZLvbUeVKc_xAa9YJap_Qw&cbp=12,307.02,,0,2.34)

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.892094,-91.617857&spn=0.028359,0.066047&t=m&z=15&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=38.892094,-91.617857&panoid=HyQWHL9dF9Vg50k8BnucDA&cbp=12,87.43,,0,-8.83 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.892094,-91.617857&spn=0.028359,0.066047&t=m&z=15&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=38.892094,-91.617857&panoid=HyQWHL9dF9Vg50k8BnucDA&cbp=12,87.43,,0,-8.83)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: NE2 on November 13, 2011, 05:18:09 PM
Doesn't look like anyone's mentioned the "Goat Path" east of Lancaster, PA: http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/pa/pa_23/g.html
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: 1995hoo on November 14, 2011, 09:53:07 AM
On I-95 near Dumfries, Virginia, just past the southern end of the reversible center-carriageway HOV facility there is an abandoned overpass with some torn-up pavement to one side. I seem to recall this was built as part of a reconstruction of the southbound overpass there, but I just don't remember for certain. I don't ever remember it being connected to the HOV facility even with its center placement. Maybe froggie remembers.

http://maps.google.com/?ll=38.569777,-77.332957&spn=0.012834,0.033023&t=k&z=16&vpsrc=6


When the New Jersey Turnpike was widened to a quad-carriageway between Exit 8A and Exit 9, a portion of the old northbound lanes near one of the service plazas was abandoned to allow for the construction of the flyover ramps from the inner carriageway to the service area. Second carriageway from the right in this image, the one with the lighter-colored pavement:

http://maps.google.com/?ll=40.41865,-74.443971&spn=0.006249,0.016512&t=k&z=17&vpsrc=6

There's something similar to that in Springfield, Virginia, where I-95 passes over Franconia Road. Note the abandoned pavement just north of the loop-around ramp. It's the remnants of a temporary road configuration during the reconstruction project that ran from 1999 to 2007. For a time the loop-around was closed altogether. There also used to be an exit from northbound I-95 onto eastbound Franconia Road that ran right along the edges of those car parks in the lower right portion of the image, but that ramp was completely removed. I don't know why the abandoned northbound lanes are still there but I assume it's because it's cheaper just to leave them in case they ever need to use that pavement again for something.

http://maps.google.com/?ll=38.778636,-77.180248&spn=0.003199,0.008256&t=k&z=18&vpsrc=6


If abandoned rest areas count for this thread, there's this one on I-66 near Linden, Virginia. I don't ever remember there actually being a rest area here–for as long as I can recall, dating back to the 1970s, this area has been blocked off with "road closed" signs and gates, as though they built the roads for the rest area and then scrapped the idea of actually building any facilities.

http://maps.google.com/?ll=38.909018,-78.026705&spn=0.006387,0.016512&t=k&z=17&vpsrc=6
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: froggie on November 14, 2011, 10:38:29 AM
QuoteOn I-95 near Dumfries, Virginia, just past the southern end of the reversible center-carriageway HOV facility there is an abandoned overpass with some torn-up pavement to one side. I seem to recall this was built as part of a reconstruction of the southbound overpass there, but I just don't remember for certain. I don't ever remember it being connected to the HOV facility even with its center placement.

Yes, it was initially built as part of the mainline bridge replacements there, but was left in place for a future extension of the HOV lanes.  Similar situation existed at the Occoquan when those bridges were replaced in conjunction with the HOV lane extension.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Stephane Dumas on November 14, 2011, 11:09:36 AM
This little airplane strip at Farnham was once the proposed A-6 linking St-Jean-sur-Richelieu to Farnham http://maps.google.com/?ll=45.286029,-73.000202&spn=0.023521,0.054932&t=h&vpsrc=6&z=15
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: SteveG1988 on November 14, 2011, 02:55:52 PM
On the NJ Turnpike Neawark Bay Ext/I78 are two abandoned rest areas that closed decades ago, they are now NJTP storage yards.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Newark+NJ&hl=en&ll=40.697177,-74.078182&spn=0.004392,0.010986&sll=45.285908,-73.00385&sspn=0.016305,0.027595&vpsrc=6&hnear=Newark,+Essex,+New+Jersey&t=h&z=17

At the Fort dix gate on CR545 is former range road, it used to go right along the McGuire AFB flightline fence. After 9/11 the road was pretty much abandoned and is now fenced off on both ends.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=08060&hl=en&ll=40.000564,-74.596514&spn=0.004471,0.010986&sll=40.697177,-74.078182&sspn=0.004392,0.010986&vpsrc=6&hnear=Mt+Holly,+New+Jersey+08060&t=h&z=17

You can see the newish paving from when it was last touched.

For the same reason (9/11) you have the abandoned segment of Fort Dix Road in Pemberton NJ that used to lead onto base at general circle, where NJ68 still ends.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=08060&hl=en&ll=40.015491,-74.637122&spn=0.002235,0.005493&sll=40.697177,-74.078182&sspn=0.004392,0.010986&vpsrc=6&hnear=Mt+Holly,+New+Jersey+08060&t=h&z=18

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=08060&hl=en&ll=40.003785,-74.644976&spn=0.008942,0.021973&sll=40.697177,-74.078182&sspn=0.004392,0.010986&vpsrc=6&hnear=Mt+Holly,+New+Jersey+08060&t=h&z=16 Julius town road betweeen the ending of the Fort Dix Housing and Fort Dix Road is also fenced off from non military traffic, and as there is nothing on that road i doubt it is even used except for fence checks.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Truvelo on November 14, 2011, 03:27:22 PM
Coming out of Dulles International is this (http://maps.google.com/?ll=38.962204,-77.430495&spn=0.001754,0.004506&t=k&z=19&vpsrc=6) extra bridge.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: HighwayMaster on November 14, 2011, 08:04:21 PM
On I-77 in Green, between Akron and Canton, there was this old weigh station. No more pavement, but you can see where it was by where the trees are planted:

http://g.co/maps/bbxcr (http://g.co/maps/bbxcr)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: roadman65 on November 24, 2011, 07:16:22 PM
The east end of TOLL FL 568 near Lutz, FL has a stub that was to be used as the original TOLL FL 589 extension before the Suncoast Parkway was considered.

The NY State Fair parking area directly across State Fair Boulevard uses the original I-690 alignment (or at least its original EB lanes) near Solvay, NY.

In Indianapolis, IN you can see the abandoned I-69 connection at the North-East end of the I-65 & I-70 overlap.

In Tampa, FL the original I-275 NB lanes from Dale Mabry to Downtown were recently abandoned (photo on alpsroads.net) to accommodate new NB lanes that are on a totally new alignment.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: BlueNacho on November 24, 2011, 10:07:06 PM
http://maps.google.com/?ll=42.147719,-88.011003&spn=0.020873,0.048108&t=h&z=15&vpsrc=6
A long time ago ('80s I think) the end of the 53 freeway, which I know is not 53 but I don't know what else to call it was built but unused between Lake Cook Road and Dundee Road. During the time it was incomplete, a scene from the Blue's Brothers was filmed on one of the ramps.

http://maps.google.com/?ll=42.21919,-89.009771&spn=0.010425,0.024054&t=h&z=16&vpsrc=6
Landscaping began for an interchange at the intersection of US20 and I39 in Rockford, Illinois. It was going to go onto the Wallenburg expressway which was never built.

There is a list of unused highways at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unused_highways. I'm sure not all are there, but it has quite a few.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Beltway on November 24, 2011, 11:40:41 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 14, 2011, 09:53:07 AM
On I-95 near Dumfries, Virginia, just past the southern end of the reversible center-carriageway HOV facility there is an abandoned overpass with some torn-up pavement to one side. I seem to recall this was built as part of a reconstruction of the southbound overpass there, but I just don't remember for certain. I don't ever remember it being connected to the HOV facility even with its center placement. Maybe froggie remembers.

That is the future mainline bridge for the future extension of the reversible roadway.  That was built as a temporary place to put traffic while the mainline general purpose bridges were rebuilt in the late 1990s.

Quote
If abandoned rest areas count for this thread, there's this one on I-66 near Linden, Virginia. I don't ever remember there actually being a rest area here–for as long as I can recall, dating back to the 1970s, this area has been blocked off with "road closed" signs and gates, as though they built the roads for the rest area and then scrapped the idea of actually building any facilities.

No ... never opened.  The rest area was graded and drained, but buildings and sewage were never installed.

Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: TheStranger on November 25, 2011, 03:05:47 AM
Quote from: BlueNacho on November 24, 2011, 10:07:06 PM
http://maps.google.com/?ll=42.147719,-88.011003&spn=0.020873,0.048108&t=h&z=15&vpsrc=6
A long time ago ('80s I think) the end of the 53 freeway, which I know is not 53 but I don't know what else to call it was built but unused between Lake Cook Road and Dundee Road. During the time it was incomplete, a scene from the Blue's Brothers was filmed on one of the ramps.


Since I'm not from the area, I'm intrigued why the north segment isn't part of 53 (via County Line Road connecting to the surface road alignment), instead with 53 continuing to use US 12 and IL 68 to connect to the freeway.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Brandon on November 25, 2011, 04:24:15 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on November 25, 2011, 03:05:47 AM
Quote from: BlueNacho on November 24, 2011, 10:07:06 PM
http://maps.google.com/?ll=42.147719,-88.011003&spn=0.020873,0.048108&t=h&z=15&vpsrc=6
A long time ago ('80s I think) the end of the 53 freeway, which I know is not 53 but I don't know what else to call it was built but unused between Lake Cook Road and Dundee Road. During the time it was incomplete, a scene from the Blue's Brothers was filmed on one of the ramps.


Since I'm not from the area, I'm intrigued why the north segment isn't part of 53 (via County Line Road connecting to the surface road alignment), instead with 53 continuing to use US 12 and IL 68 to connect to the freeway.

Lake-Cook Road (not County Line Road) is a county highway (Cook County maintains it).  Dundee Road (IL-68) is the last IDOT highway the freeway meets.  Hence why IL-53 follows IL-68 to US-12.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: national highway 1 on November 25, 2011, 10:10:56 PM
The 178th and 179th St tunnels in Manhattan are also abandoned.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Stratuscaster on November 26, 2011, 02:10:47 AM
Quote from: Brandon on November 25, 2011, 04:24:15 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on November 25, 2011, 03:05:47 AM
Quote from: BlueNacho on November 24, 2011, 10:07:06 PM
http://maps.google.com/?ll=42.147719,-88.011003&spn=0.020873,0.048108&t=h&z=15&vpsrc=6
A long time ago ('80s I think) the end of the 53 freeway, which I know is not 53 but I don't know what else to call it was built but unused between Lake Cook Road and Dundee Road. During the time it was incomplete, a scene from the Blue's Brothers was filmed on one of the ramps.


Since I'm not from the area, I'm intrigued why the north segment isn't part of 53 (via County Line Road connecting to the surface road alignment), instead with 53 continuing to use US 12 and IL 68 to connect to the freeway.

Lake-Cook Road (not County Line Road) is a county highway (Cook County maintains it).  Dundee Road (IL-68) is the last IDOT highway the freeway meets.  Hence why IL-53 follows IL-68 to US-12.
At one point IL-53 did, in fact, go up to Lake-Cook Road westbound where it then headed north on Hicks Road. Was signed that way as well - and then they pulled it back to the way it used to be and is still today, following IL-68 to US-12 to Hicks Rd. Took a while before they added "TO" to the BGS' on Lake-Cook Road for southbound IL-53 as well.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: jrouse on November 26, 2011, 07:42:11 PM
There is an abandoned rest area on westbound I-10 near Fontana, San Bernardino County, California.  Looks like it is used for material storage now.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: ClarkE on December 21, 2011, 01:48:03 AM
Quote from: Truvelo on November 14, 2011, 03:27:22 PM
Coming out of Dulles International is this (http://maps.google.com/?ll=38.962204,-77.430495&spn=0.001754,0.004506&t=k&z=19&vpsrc=6) extra bridge.

There's a stub ramp there too at the top of the linked area.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: froggie on December 21, 2011, 12:52:49 PM
QuoteComing out of Dulles International is this (http://maps.google.com/?ll=38.962204,-77.430495&spn=0.001754,0.004506&t=k&z=19&vpsrc=6) extra bridge.

This was the original connection from the airport to VA 28 North and the Dulles Toll Road, before the current configuration was built in the 2007-08 timeframe.

QuoteThere's a stub ramp there too at the top of the linked area.

This ramp was also built in the 2007-08 reconfiguration, though I'm at a loss as to why the stub was included.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: busman_49 on September 22, 2012, 05:07:04 PM
Quote from: HighwayMaster on November 14, 2011, 08:04:21 PM
On I-77 in Green, between Akron and Canton, there was this old weigh station. No more pavement, but you can see where it was by where the trees are planted:

http://g.co/maps/bbxcr (http://g.co/maps/bbxcr)

Are you sure it was a weigh station?  The only reason I ask is because I remember (or at least I thought I did) seeing some rest areas being demolished along that stretch back in the late 80s or early 90s.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: amroad17 on September 22, 2012, 10:02:58 PM
There is one off of I-95 in near Marlboro, MA.  There is an abandoned section east of the current I-95 sort of hidden in the woods.

There is also an "abandoned" section of I-44 about 10-15 miles west of Rolla, MO.  It was bypassed about 6 or 7 years ago because of the S-curves in that area.  The road is still in use for local traffic.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: NE2 on September 23, 2012, 03:55:51 AM
Quote from: amroad17 on September 22, 2012, 10:02:58 PM
There is also an "abandoned" section of I-44 about 10-15 miles west of Rolla, MO.  It was bypassed about 6 or 7 years ago because of the S-curves in that area.  The road is still in use for local traffic.
The old frontage roads are in use; the old main lanes have been torn up: http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=37.93636,-91.95078&z=15&t=S
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: mgk920 on September 23, 2012, 08:27:57 PM
Howabout this section of OH 158 at Kirkersville, OH?

Aerial - http://goo.gl/maps/3zoIq
Streetview - http://goo.gl/maps/NxKwc

It was a crossover from current I-70 to US 40 east of Columbus, OH.

Also
The never-completed westbound rest area on I-86 just west of Jamestown, NY.  The eastbound one sat uncompleted for many years, but was apparently finished and opened since my last roadtrip through that area about 10 years or so ago.

Aerial image - http://goo.gl/maps/tFmoN

One more
The former WI 29 freeway between the roundabout (rebuilt from a trumpet) and the north-south part of WI 178 (Seymour Cray Bd) in Chippewa Falls, WI was downgraded to a local street when the new WI 29 bypass freeway was completed a few years ago.

Aerial image - http://goo.gl/maps/8WeSE

Mike
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: mcdonaat on September 23, 2012, 09:10:47 PM
Quote from: NE2 on September 23, 2012, 03:55:51 AM
Quote from: amroad17 on September 22, 2012, 10:02:58 PM
There is also an "abandoned" section of I-44 about 10-15 miles west of Rolla, MO.  It was bypassed about 6 or 7 years ago because of the S-curves in that area.  The road is still in use for local traffic.
The old frontage roads are in use; the old main lanes have been torn up: http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=37.93636,-91.95078&z=15&t=S
A big LOL at the house built where the freeway used to be.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: thenetwork on September 25, 2012, 01:41:31 PM
Quote from: busman_49 on September 22, 2012, 05:07:04 PM
Quote from: HighwayMaster on November 14, 2011, 08:04:21 PM
On I-77 in Green, between Akron and Canton, there was this old weigh station. No more pavement, but you can see where it was by where the trees are planted:

http://g.co/maps/bbxcr (http://g.co/maps/bbxcr)

Are you sure it was a weigh station?  The only reason I ask is because I remember (or at least I thought I did) seeing some rest areas being demolished along that stretch back in the late 80s or early 90s.

The stretch along I-77 mentioned above was indeed a Rest Area.  The only Weigh Station on I-77 in Ohio has -- or ever had -- was along the I-77/US-250 multiplex near New Philadelphia.

Along I-90 east near Ashtabula, there are traces of both an old Rest Area site and a Weigh Station site.  The latter was decommissioned when PA added a Weigh Station area to their Welcome Center at the state line and OH built a more complex Rest Area/Weigh Station facility on it's side of the border.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: MDOTFanFB on September 25, 2012, 05:07:38 PM
At milemarker 161 on I-96 east in Novi, MI, there's some remnants from a former rest area, including a bit of torn-up pavement. The rest disappeared when the Suburban Collection Showplace was constructed.

http://goo.gl/maps/o32Js (http://goo.gl/maps/o32Js)

And at the eastern end of M-8 on Detroit's east side, there used to be a short stretch of pavement that was paved in anticipation for the eastward extension of the Davison Freeway, however NIMBYism cancelled it and the freeway was rerouted onto what would've been ramps for an interchange with Conant Street. This has since been removed when M-8 east of I-75 was reconstructed (and it shows on the new 45-degree view that was released today), so here's a Street View from 2009 showing the old configuration.

http://goo.gl/maps/i9MPj (http://goo.gl/maps/i9MPj)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: PHLBOS on September 25, 2012, 05:39:03 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on September 22, 2012, 10:02:58 PM
There is one off of I-95 in near Marlboro, MA.  There is an abandoned section east of the current I-95 sort of hidden in the woods.
I think you mean Newburyport, MA; that section was abandoned during the 1974 widening project.  I-95 goes nowhere near Marlboro; though I-495 does.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: amroad17 on September 26, 2012, 02:06:31 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 25, 2012, 05:39:03 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on September 22, 2012, 10:02:58 PM
There is one off of I-95 in near Marlboro, MA.  There is an abandoned section east of the current I-95 sort of hidden in the woods.
I think you mean Newburyport, MA; that section was abandoned during the 1974 widening project.  I-95 goes nowhere near Marlboro; though I-495 does.
Sorry, I was thinking it was further south than where it actually is.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: US12 on September 29, 2012, 06:08:46 PM
There is an Abandoned rest Area at mile 33 on US 23 North

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=willis+mi&ll=42.18127,-83.685189&spn=0.00481,0.013078&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hnear=Willis,+Augusta+Charter+township,+Washtenaw,+Michigan&gl=us&t=h&z=17
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: dfilpus on September 29, 2012, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: US12 on September 29, 2012, 06:08:46 PM
There is an Abandoned rest Area at mile 33 on US 23 North

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=willis+mi&ll=42.18127,-83.685189&spn=0.00481,0.013078&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hnear=Willis,+Augusta+Charter+township,+Washtenaw,+Michigan&gl=us&t=h&z=17
That one was closed because of the expansion of the prisons just west of there.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: StogieGuy7 on October 01, 2012, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: dfilpus on September 29, 2012, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: US12 on September 29, 2012, 06:08:46 PM
There is an Abandoned rest Area at mile 33 on US 23 North

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=willis+mi&ll=42.18127,-83.685189&spn=0.00481,0.013078&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hnear=Willis,+Augusta+Charter+township,+Washtenaw,+Michigan&gl=us&t=h&z=17
That one was closed because of the expansion of the prisons just west of there.

And that is not a very confidence inspiring reaction from the state!  How would you like to live in that neighborhood.   :wow:
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: US12 on October 01, 2012, 03:42:31 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on October 01, 2012, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: dfilpus on September 29, 2012, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: US12 on September 29, 2012, 06:08:46 PM
There is an Abandoned rest Area at mile 33 on US 23 North

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=willis+mi&ll=42.18127,-83.685189&spn=0.00481,0.013078&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hnear=Willis,+Augusta+Charter+township,+Washtenaw,+Michigan&gl=us&t=h&z=17
That one was closed because of the expansion of the prisons just west of there.

And that is not a very confidence inspiring reaction from the state!  How would you like to live in that neighborhood.   :wow:

From M DOT "  The Willis Rd Rest Area was closed because it was a low-use facility, and close enough to the Dundee Welcome Center that it was deemed redundant." This happened in 1996.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Skye on September 30, 2020, 08:31:30 PM
In East Chicago, IN, IN912 was an expressway that connected I-90 to BP Refinery, steel mills, and ship yards. A few years ago the expressway was broken up due to issues with the bridge over the Indiana Harbor Canal and DOT decided cost to repair/replace the bridge was too much. Now there are two existing portions of the expressway one between I-90 exit 10 and Michigan Ave in East Chicago and the other portion is a short stretch in Whiting between I-90 Exit 3 and US41. This portion is unsigned as IN912 most likely to ease confusion signs on I-90 have had the 912 shield removed and simply say "Cline Ave" while on signs on 41 simply say "Chicago via Toll Road".

One in Cincinnati I don't think is as visible as it used to be due to new construction in the area but there was once a plan to build an expressway along/near US27/Colerain Ave from I-74 going north. If you use street view go to Colerain Ave & Virginia Ave there is a mound of grass on the SE corner of the intersection that was supposed to be the beginning of the expressway. It's not as visible as it used to be, though.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: amroad17 on October 06, 2020, 02:38:43 AM
^ The beginning of the expressway was very prominent until the I-74/Beekman interchange along with the rerouting of Colerain Ave. reconstructed through there changed the landscape.

https://goo.gl/maps/eKQeYaGZB6Kg69r97

Before the reconstruction, the exit ramp from I-74 WB to Colerain curled around the trees, passing over the West Fork of Mill Creek, and met Colerain at a T-intersection.  Colerain went along the telephone lines in the now grassy area by the end of the houses to curve around to where it currently meets Virginia Ave.  Where the current Beekman-Colerain intersection is now is where a grassy mound rose and ended at where Colerain used to be.  There was also another grassy mound that tapered down in the now-leveled field in the southeast quadrant of the Colerain-Virginia intersection.  From what I have read, the Colerain Freeway was supposed to go over the Virginia-Chase intersection, stay west of Virginia Ave. (seeing the sliver of undeveloped land behind the houses on the west side of Virginia just north of Chase), then follow Kirby up to North Bend Road where there is a crude 1950's-ish two quadrant interchange.  This is the only vestige left of what was supposed to be the Colerain Freeway.

https://goo.gl/maps/5UjhJiPseSa3wPxm9
https://goo.gl/maps/ghGmSnLNGVfraP8JA

Ultimately, the Colerain Freeway was supposed to end at I-275 between the US 27 (Exit 33) and US 127 (Exit 36) interchanges.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: roadman65 on October 06, 2020, 01:07:31 PM
The Will Rogers Turnpike in Okalossa, OK still lies unused as the new realignment ties into the Creek Turnpike  for a seamless default for a south beltway around Tulsa.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Scott5114 on October 06, 2020, 01:10:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 06, 2020, 01:07:31 PM
The Will Rogers Turnpike in Okalossa, OK

...where?
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: kylebnjmnross on October 06, 2020, 02:40:25 PM
^I think I found it: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Catoosa,+OK/@36.174266,-95.7417254,2916m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x87b6f5d238da2023:0x71b31a3ff125400!8m2!3d36.1889879!4d-95.7458174 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Catoosa,+OK/@36.174266,-95.7417254,2916m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x87b6f5d238da2023:0x71b31a3ff125400!8m2!3d36.1889879!4d-95.7458174)
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Scott5114 on October 06, 2020, 04:16:31 PM
Well, yeah, but that's in Catoosa, not...whatever the hell he said, which sounds like a Seminole place name that would be out of place in the Creek/Cherokee/Osage territory that the Tulsa metro straddles.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: CJResotko on October 06, 2020, 06:47:39 PM
I found this abandoned section of business route I-55 in Sherman, IL. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9124473,-89.5881661,690m/data=!3m1!1e3
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: ilpt4u on October 06, 2020, 07:40:11 PM
Quote from: CJResotko on October 06, 2020, 06:47:39 PM
I found this abandoned section of business route I-55 in Sherman, IL. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9124473,-89.5881661,690m/data=!3m1!1e3
I like this abandonded section of Old US 66 in Illinois: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7870049,-87.8507514,822m/data=!3m1!1e3

Not really an expressway at that point, more of an urban street, but still abandonded
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: roadman65 on October 06, 2020, 08:33:39 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 06, 2020, 04:16:31 PM
Well, yeah, but that's in Catoosa, not...whatever the hell he said, which sounds like a Seminole place name that would be out of place in the Creek/Cherokee/Osage territory that the Tulsa metro straddles.
i guess old age is setting in already.  Damn but at least its not that bad as some younger than me I know.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: crispy93 on October 08, 2020, 12:13:16 PM
The exit from the northbound Hutch to the Cross County has a wider-than-necessary bridge because there were plans to extend the CCP further east: https://goo.gl/maps/7ruZ8GvhgNaoExKY6

There's also a partially abandoned stack interchange at the northern end of CT-9 at I-84
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: CJResotko on January 28, 2021, 10:34:23 AM
Another abandoned/unfinished freeway I found is Ozark Mountain High Road outside of Branson, Missouri.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.674449,-93.3183719,1815m/data=!3m1!1e3
However, there have been conversations about it getting finished.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: CJResotko on March 10, 2021, 09:35:25 AM
There's an abandoned section of US-15 just north of Selinsgrove, PA.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8188681,-76.8540562,902m/data=!3m1!1e3
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: vdeane on March 10, 2021, 12:44:38 PM
Quote from: CJResotko on March 10, 2021, 09:35:25 AM
There's an abandoned section of US-15 just north of Selinsgrove, PA.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8188681,-76.8540562,902m/data=!3m1!1e3
Not abandoned.  That was a stub left for a planned extension that is yet to be built (the northern section is under construction, the southern section should be built sometime this decade).
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: bing101 on March 17, 2021, 11:24:10 AM
https://www.gribblenation.org/2017/06/the-story-on-how-unbuilt-us-40.html




Here is a story of abandoned sections of US-40 where it was intended to be a constructed freeway in Brownsville, PA.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: sbeaver44 on March 18, 2021, 07:11:03 PM
Quote from: bing101 on March 17, 2021, 11:24:10 AM
https://www.gribblenation.org/2017/06/the-story-on-how-unbuilt-us-40.html




Here is a story of abandoned sections of US-40 where it was intended to be a constructed freeway in Brownsville, PA.
Hey that is a great read and explains why Business 40 and PA 166 end where they do.   I unfortunately never got to see this in the old section, but my wife has family out that way, so I'm incredibly familiar with the area.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: bugo on June 25, 2021, 07:49:49 AM
Quote from: Truvelo on November 14, 2011, 03:27:22 PM
Coming out of Dulles International is this (http://maps.google.com/?ll=38.962204,-77.430495&spn=0.001754,0.004506&t=k&z=19&vpsrc=6) extra bridge.

What's the story behind this bridge? Looking at historicaerials.com, the bridge isn't that old. It doesn't show up on the aerial marked 1980.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: froggie on June 25, 2021, 11:25:46 AM
That bridge carried the former alignment of the eastbound C/D road.  It was bypassed ca. 2006-2007 when a direct on-ramp from Aviation Dr was added and the C/D road was extended west through the Rudder Rd interchange.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: frankenroad on June 25, 2021, 03:13:04 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on October 06, 2020, 02:38:43 AM
^ The beginning of the expressway was very prominent until the I-74/Beekman interchange along with the rerouting of Colerain Ave. reconstructed through there changed the landscape.

https://goo.gl/maps/eKQeYaGZB6Kg69r97

Before the reconstruction, the exit ramp from I-74 WB to Colerain curled around the trees, passing over the West Fork of Mill Creek, and met Colerain at a T-intersection.  Colerain went along the telephone lines in the now grassy area by the end of the houses to curve around to where it currently meets Virginia Ave.  Where the current Beekman-Colerain intersection is now is where a grassy mound rose and ended at where Colerain used to be.  There was also another grassy mound that tapered down in the now-leveled field in the southeast quadrant of the Colerain-Virginia intersection.  From what I have read, the Colerain Freeway was supposed to go over the Virginia-Chase intersection, stay west of Virginia Ave. (seeing the sliver of undeveloped land behind the houses on the west side of Virginia just north of Chase), then follow Kirby up to North Bend Road where there is a crude 1950's-ish two quadrant interchange.  This is the only vestige left of what was supposed to be the Colerain Freeway.

https://goo.gl/maps/5UjhJiPseSa3wPxm9
https://goo.gl/maps/ghGmSnLNGVfraP8JA

Ultimately, the Colerain Freeway was supposed to end at I-275 between the US 27 (Exit 33) and US 127 (Exit 36) interchanges.

If you look at that aerial view, you can see several areas where new houses have been built in the last 10 years or so (you can tell because they have attached garages, where the original building stock in that area did not have attached garages).   These were built on land that the state had acquired for the freeway, but has since been turned back into private hands.  These areas are most notable just west of Virginia Ave and Kirby Rd.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: J3ebrules on November 19, 2021, 12:30:13 AM
Recently learned about an abandoned highway that inexplicably was given an NJ state highway number instead of just fading into the abyss - NJ 324.

Well, it still faded into the abyss - I haven't been down to visit yet, but apparently it's now unsigned and mostly abandoned. It was the old alignment of US 322 to the ferry across the Delaware River (hence the "324"  designation - someone at NJDOT was being cute) before the Commodore Barry Bridge was opened and it and the new approach took 322 with it.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: Occidental Tourist on November 19, 2021, 02:56:08 AM
The realigned Airport Expressway coming out of SeaTac airport is interesting, including the old abandoned northbound lanes and bridge being partially converted to parking, and a former northbound on-ramp being turned into a southbound, left-side offramp.
Title: Re: Abandoned Freeways
Post by: vdeane on November 19, 2021, 12:36:20 PM
Quote from: J3ebrules on November 19, 2021, 12:30:13 AM
Recently learned about an abandoned highway that inexplicably was given an NJ state highway number instead of just fading into the abyss - NJ 324.

Well, it still faded into the abyss - I haven't been down to visit yet, but apparently it's now unsigned and mostly abandoned. It was the old alignment of US 322 to the ferry across the Delaware River (hence the "324"  designation - someone at NJDOT was being cute) before the Commodore Barry Bridge was opened and it and the new approach took 322 with it.
Do enhanced tenth mile markers count as signed?  Because I believe it has those.