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Title: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: bugo on April 30, 2013, 02:41:56 PM
On the WB Turner Turnpike (I-44) nearing its end at I-35, there is an overhead sign with an I-40 shield instead of an I-44 shield.  The next warning sign is correct, with an I-44 shield.  Should I contact the OTA or just leave it be?
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: WichitaRoads on April 30, 2013, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: bugo on April 30, 2013, 02:41:56 PM
On the WB Turner Turnpike (I-44) nearing its end at I-35, there is an overhead sign with an I-40 shield instead of an I-44 shield.  The next warning sign is correct, with an I-44 shield.  Should I contact the OTA or just leave it be?

Well, I'd say that's up to you. It probably isn't a huge deal except to roadgeeks like us, or to anal-retentives (which for many of us, I think it's both). Besides, with ODOT's rep, I don't know that they'd ever deal with it.

Yes, it should be fixed. But, will it, even with prompting? Hmmm.

ICTRds
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: Alps on April 30, 2013, 06:46:19 PM
I'd contact them. Reassurance signs are for the unfamiliar traveler, and all it takes is one person who panics, pulls out a map, swerves to take an exit, etc...
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: bugo on May 01, 2013, 01:37:14 AM
Quote from: WichitaRoads on April 30, 2013, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: bugo on April 30, 2013, 02:41:56 PM
On the WB Turner Turnpike (I-44) nearing its end at I-35, there is an overhead sign with an I-40 shield instead of an I-44 shield.  The next warning sign is correct, with an I-44 shield.  Should I contact the OTA or just leave it be?

Well, I'd say that's up to you. It probably isn't a huge deal except to roadgeeks like us, or to anal-retentives (which for many of us, I think it's both). Besides, with ODOT's rep, I don't know that they'd ever deal with it.

Yes, it should be fixed. But, will it, even with prompting? Hmmm.

ICTRds

ODOT doesn't maintain the turnpikes.
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: WichitaRoads on May 01, 2013, 02:14:38 PM
Good point. I wasn't even thinking about that when I responded.

ICTRds
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: US71 on May 01, 2013, 03:10:30 PM
Quote from: bugo on April 30, 2013, 02:41:56 PM
On the WB Turner Turnpike (I-44) nearing its end at I-35, there is an overhead sign with an I-40 shield instead of an I-44 shield.  The next warning sign is correct, with an I-44 shield.  Should I contact the OTA or just leave it be?

Either way, get some photos first ;)
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: rte66man on May 01, 2013, 04:05:05 PM
Quote from: bugo on April 30, 2013, 02:41:56 PM
On the WB Turner Turnpike (I-44) nearing its end at I-35, there is an overhead sign with an I-40 shield instead of an I-44 shield.  The next warning sign is correct, with an I-44 shield.  Should I contact the OTA or just leave it be?

Is it the first westbound gantry (just before you cross the Deep Fork)?  If so, I will try to get out there this weekend and get a few snaps.  Google Street view has a crappy image shot almost directly into the sun, so I can't tell.

rte66man

rte66man
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: Scott5114 on May 01, 2013, 04:38:33 PM
OTA is even worse than ODOT, so chances are you're not going to get very far. This is the agency that posted a US 66 shield on a BGS well into the 2000s. Then again, I-40 vs I-44 is a much more egregious error that people will notice, so it's more likely that it'll get fixed. (Different agency, but ODOT posted a US 288 shield once for US 277 and that was enough to get fixed fairly quickly, despite the fact that nobody really cares about following US 277 there because it just follows I-44. This leads me to believe that wrong-number errors are more likely to get fixed in a timely manner than something like a US-for-a-state error.)

Whether or not they do anything, you should at least notify them about it, because it could result in someone getting lost, or like Steve said, even causing an accident.
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: okroads on May 06, 2013, 11:17:39 PM
I took this picture back on April 14:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8111%2F8650515792_4c109917e5_c.jpg&hash=05c6b76c60e3f43e34f71b0824ab4eb3d70f8442) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/8650515792/)
DSC02158 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/8650515792/) by okroads (http://www.flickr.com/people/okroads/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: Scott5114 on May 07, 2013, 12:40:46 AM
Wow. Typical OTA, doing something wrong on each sign panel.
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: Alex on May 07, 2013, 09:34:54 AM
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/central/i-044_wb_app_i-035.jpg) (//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/central/i-044_wb_app_i-035.jpg)

The top half of that sign was missing when we passed under it last May. No wonder they couldn't get the shields right!   ;-)
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: Henry on May 07, 2013, 11:40:06 AM
Perhaps they should squeeze in a I-44 shield, and have the sign read TO I-40, because I-35 and I-44 will run into I-40 anyway.
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: NE2 on May 07, 2013, 11:47:26 AM
It's so I-44 traffic will use the Kilpatrick and pay tolls. Because Bengoatse.
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: Brandon on May 07, 2013, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: okroads on May 06, 2013, 11:17:39 PM
I took this picture back on April 14:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8111%2F8650515792_4c109917e5_c.jpg&hash=05c6b76c60e3f43e34f71b0824ab4eb3d70f8442) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/8650515792/)
DSC02158 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/8650515792/) by okroads (http://www.flickr.com/people/okroads/), on Flickr

Did you have to?  My eyes started to burn when I saw that.  :crazy:
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 07, 2013, 01:37:08 PM
WTF triangle shield I-35.  I thought only California used that silly shape.  (it's a 45x36 3di shape, compressed horizontally to 36x36.)
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: Alps on May 07, 2013, 06:55:57 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 07, 2013, 01:37:08 PM
WTF triangle shield I-35.  I thought only California used that silly shape.  (it's a 45x36 3di shape, compressed horizontally to 36x36.)
And Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: US71 on May 09, 2013, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 07, 2013, 01:37:08 PM
WTF triangle shield I-35.  I thought only California used that silly shape.  (it's a 45x36 3di shape, compressed horizontally to 36x36.)

OKC has a few. Reminds me of Underwood Deviled Ham ;)
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: Scott5114 on May 09, 2013, 07:10:45 PM
Any bad signage practice you can think of has been used by either ODOT or OTA at some point.
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: NE2 on May 09, 2013, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 09, 2013, 07:10:45 PM
Any bad signage practice you can think of has been used by either ODOT or OTA at some point.
Internal exit tabs?
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: Road Hog on June 01, 2013, 04:20:44 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 09, 2013, 07:10:45 PM
Any bad signage practice you can think of has been used by either ODOT or OTA at some point.

The heck you say?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/US_69_Craig_Co.jpg/800px-US_69_Craig_Co.jpg)
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: bugo on June 01, 2013, 10:39:05 AM
The signage on the Will Rogers Turnpike is awful.  The annoying signs that tell you to pay at certain exits and to get a refund at other exits are pretty bad too.
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: kkt on June 01, 2013, 02:09:54 PM
Quote from: Road Hog on June 01, 2013, 04:20:44 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 09, 2013, 07:10:45 PM
Any bad signage practice you can think of has been used by either ODOT or OTA at some point.

The heck you say?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/US_69_Craig_Co.jpg/800px-US_69_Craig_Co.jpg)

They have a sideline in ransom notes, right?
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: bugo on June 01, 2013, 06:24:32 PM
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2719/4209632583_896181b58b_z.jpg)

Cherokee Turnpike
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: kphoger on June 01, 2013, 07:35:57 PM
Who decides this schlock is OK?
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: Road Hog on June 06, 2013, 11:20:46 PM
Between those two signs, you probably have enough letters of each case to make correct ones of each.
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 07, 2013, 12:05:48 PM
"concessions"?  as in, buy a hot dog and a soda?
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: bugo on June 07, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
There's a Burger King at that service plaza (at least it was the last time I was through there) and a gas station/convenience store.  It's in the middle of the highway.
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: rte66man on June 08, 2013, 02:58:55 PM
Quote from: bugo on June 07, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
There's a Burger King at that service plaza (at least it was the last time I was through there) and a gas station/convenience store.  It's in the middle of the highway.

Not any more.  There is nothing but a large concrete pad.

rte66man
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: okroads on June 09, 2013, 11:04:03 PM
Update: This I-40 shield error is still posted as of today.
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: Scott5114 on June 11, 2013, 06:18:30 AM
Quote from: okroads on June 09, 2013, 11:04:03 PM
Update: This I-40 shield error is still posted as of today.

Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Error I-40 shield at western end of the Turner Turnpike
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 11, 2013, 06:24:22 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 01, 2013, 07:35:57 PM
Who decides this schlock is OK?

a combination of basic geography and license plate slogans.