With the construction of the New Goethals Cable-stayed Bridge by the Port Authority, which will be rebuilt in the shortest amount of time The New Bridge (4 to 5 years) or the Interchange (?).
See: http://www.panynj.gov/goethalsbridge/ for renderings of the new bridge.
Besides the immediate bridge approach, there are no plans for the interchange to be reconstructed.
Only 6 lanes, dissapointing
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on May 01, 2013, 12:40:10 AM
Only 6 lanes, dissapointing
Yeah, but considering either side of the bridge probably won't be widened ever, there's not much point in making a wider bridge only for the lanes to end anyway.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 01, 2013, 08:13:21 AM
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on May 01, 2013, 12:40:10 AM
Only 6 lanes, dissapointing
Yeah, but considering either side of the bridge probably won't be widened ever, there's not much point in making a wider bridge only for the lanes to end anyway.
At the same time, with the HOV lane project in the future, there ought to be provision for that. It says "A central area to be maintained between the eastbound and westbound roadway decks, sufficient to accommodate the provision of future transit service." but I'm not sure that means extension of the HOV system into NJ. So maybe it'll stop at the West Shore/440.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 01, 2013, 08:13:21 AM
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on May 01, 2013, 12:40:10 AM
Only 6 lanes, dissapointing
Yeah, but considering either side of the bridge probably won't be widened ever, there's not much point in making a wider bridge only for the lanes to end anyway.
You'd still have to consider access to the Turnpike on & off ramps though.
This is actually being built?
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 02, 2013, 07:06:39 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 01, 2013, 08:13:21 AM
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on May 01, 2013, 12:40:10 AM
Only 6 lanes, dissapointing
Yeah, but considering either side of the bridge probably won't be widened ever, there's not much point in making a wider bridge only for the lanes to end anyway.
You'd still have to consider access to the Turnpike on & off ramps though.
This is actually being built?
The new bridge design does feature blank space in the middle which is said to be an accommodation for potential future transit usage (a pair of train tracks or a pair of bus lanes). Of course, there is nothing to stop the space from being used for HOV lanes instead.
Currently nothing specific is planned to use the space, it's just a general provision, done probably more for political reasons than anything else - it's a bone thrown to the crowd that opposes highway improvements on the grounds that transit should be built instead, by saying "look, maybe someday you can have your transit line here, too".
Personally, I doubt the space will be used exclusively for transit because the traffic patterns between Staten Island and Union County just aren't conducive to it (no hubs or concentrated destination on either side), and the bridge is not particularly useful as part of a route from Manhattan to anywhere. If the space is ever used, HOV lanes are the most likely candidate.
Quote from: Duke87 on May 02, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 02, 2013, 07:06:39 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 01, 2013, 08:13:21 AM
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on May 01, 2013, 12:40:10 AM
Only 6 lanes, dissapointing
Yeah, but considering either side of the bridge probably won't be widened ever, there's not much point in making a wider bridge only for the lanes to end anyway.
You'd still have to consider access to the Turnpike on & off ramps though.
This is actually being built?
The new bridge design does feature blank space in the middle which is said to be an accommodation for potential future transit usage (a pair of train tracks or a pair of bus lanes). Of course, there is nothing to stop the space from being used for HOV lanes instead.
Currently nothing specific is planned to use the space, it's just a general provision, done probably more for political reasons than anything else - it's a bone thrown to the crowd that opposes highway improvements on the grounds that transit should be built instead, by saying "look, maybe someday you can have your transit line here, too".
Personally, I doubt the space will be used exclusively for transit because the traffic patterns between Staten Island and Union County just aren't conducive to it (no hubs or concentrated destination on either side), and the bridge is not particularly useful as part of a route from Manhattan to anywhere. If the space is ever used, HOV lanes are the most likely candidate.
That wide space between the travel lanes would be very well-served by a public transit line, as half the people in New York don't even have cars!
Most people on Staten Island have cars.
Quote from: mc78andrew on May 02, 2013, 09:57:36 PM
Most people on Staten Island have cars.
As do those in New Jersey.
Well, I take it back.
I would say the I-95/I-278 interchange should need some hov lane ramps because I-278 has hov lanes on the staten island side and the new Goethals bridge will have hov lanes at the bridge and the toll plaza. perhaps panjny should use the sf bay area example of using hov lanes to form the ort lanes or etc lanes of a toll plaza.
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Quote from: Interstatefan78 on May 04, 2013, 09:36:20 AM
I would say the I-95/I-278 interchange should need some hov lane ramps because I-278 has hov lanes on the staten island side
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Quoteand the new Goethals bridge will have hov lanes at the bridge
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Quoteand the toll plaza.
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Quote from: Henry on May 03, 2013, 12:49:36 PM
Well, I take it back.
You wouldn't have to, since there are people on both sides of Arthur Kill who also use mass transit as well.
Quote from: Duke87 on May 02, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
Personally, I doubt the space will be used exclusively for transit because the traffic patterns between Staten Island and Union County just aren't conducive to it (no hubs or concentrated destination on either side), and the bridge is not particularly useful as part of a route from Manhattan to anywhere. If the space is ever used, HOV lanes are the most likely candidate.
Disagree with this assumption about it not being on a route to Manhattan. Many of NYC Transit's Express buses between Staten Island and Midtown go via NJ and through the Lincoln Tunnel. Think of this as a missing link in the ring of HOV/bus facilities connecting Staten Island to Manhattan....Battery Tunnel reversible lane, BQE Zipper Lane, the new reversible HOV lane on the Verrazano to be constructed, HOV the whole length of the Staten Island Expressway, future HOV on the Goethals Bridge, HOV on the NJ Turnpike between Exits 11 and 14, and the Lincoln Tunnel Exclusive Bus Lane.