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Title: Ironic street names
Post by: theline on May 02, 2013, 02:04:42 PM
I've always enjoyed street names that struck me as ironic. I'd be interested to see what others can find.

Here's one to start things off, Broadway Street in South Bend: http://goo.gl/maps/0Hthj (http://goo.gl/maps/0Hthj)

In adjacent Mishawaka, they have an unrelated Broadway, where the name is a bit more apt: http://goo.gl/maps/PTMAo (http://goo.gl/maps/PTMAo)

I don't see a thread on the subject, but if I missed it, please forgive me.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Brandon on May 02, 2013, 02:19:50 PM
I'll wager we can come up with a bunch of these.

Main Street Plainfield, IL (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.610099,-88.206428&spn=0.008583,0.021136&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=41.610099,-88.206428&panoid=eiRYe1mIuQDX6M6NnyVi5A&cbp=12,62.82,,0,8.95) which acts as more of a back street.  The actual "main street" is Lockport Street (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.6101,-88.206418&spn=0.008647,0.021136&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=41.608469,-88.204298&panoid=ZAJtR-p6unHQLL0oeNzoiA&cbp=12,263.57,,0,2.38).
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: theline on May 02, 2013, 02:29:37 PM
Good one! I hope Lockport Street is all better now. It sure was a mess when the GSV car went through.

I'll bet someone can find us a Long Street that is one block long. :nod:
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on May 02, 2013, 03:30:46 PM
There is Carrer Ample (Catalan for "wide street") in Barcelona. The funny thing, is that it is a fairly narrow street.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: NE2 on May 02, 2013, 04:57:04 PM
Sisco Dirt Road is paved.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 02, 2013, 05:32:31 PM
Alanis Circle is not one

http://goo.gl/maps/jNTPq
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Alps on May 02, 2013, 05:55:34 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 02, 2013, 05:32:31 PM
Alanis Circle is not one

http://goo.gl/maps/jNTPq
Nor is there a fork in the road.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: CentralCAroadgeek on May 02, 2013, 06:49:26 PM
Valley Circle Boulevard in the San Fernando Valley. It was apparently planned to circle the whole valley, but only the west half of it was built. (Anyone from SoCal is free to correct me...)
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: dgolub on May 02, 2013, 07:00:01 PM
Quote from: theline on May 02, 2013, 02:04:42 PM
Here's one to start things off, Broadway Street in South Bend: http://goo.gl/maps/0Hthj (http://goo.gl/maps/0Hthj)

There's also Broadway Avenue on Long Island: http://goo.gl/maps/p0RIj (http://goo.gl/maps/p0RIj).
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: The High Plains Traveler on May 02, 2013, 07:01:06 PM
Northern Avenue bisects the south half of Pueblo.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: dgolub on May 02, 2013, 07:04:53 PM
Also, how about Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn?  It goes to the East River, not the Atlantic Ocean.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: triplemultiplex on May 02, 2013, 07:13:02 PM
I've seen little friggin' alleys named "Broadway" as I've worked on maps over the years.

I've seen plenty of "Main Streets" that were not really the main drag through town.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: theline on May 02, 2013, 08:08:16 PM
Quote from: Steve on May 02, 2013, 05:55:34 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 02, 2013, 05:32:31 PM
Alanis Circle is not one

http://goo.gl/maps/jNTPq
Nor is there a fork in the road.

After passing the fork in the road, you come to the Slauson Cutoff. Get out of the car and cut off your Slauson.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: kphoger on May 02, 2013, 08:11:30 PM
How about all those nauseating tree-themed street names that exist in brand-new subdivisions where there aren't even any trees yet?  Or water-themed street names (e.g. Brookview) in subdivisions where there is no body of water?

Or how about Martin Luther King -named streets in neighborhoods where, were he alive today, he'd be killed all over again were he to walk down the street?
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: theline on May 02, 2013, 08:32:18 PM
That brings us full circle. My OP about Broadway conflates with Martin Luther King-named streets and racists who hate him.

Some years back, the city of Muncie, IN proposed renaming the major east-side thoroughfare Broadway as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd. A long-time merchant who owned an appliance store on that street threatened to shut down his store rather than own a store with an MLK address. The city called his bluff. I lost track of whether the store survived long, but I suspect it didn't. If he didn't shut it down voluntarily, the reaction to his remarks did the trick.

No irony in the name, though. Muncie's east side has a sizable African-American population.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: golden eagle on May 02, 2013, 10:23:30 PM
Prosperity Street in Jackson, MS is full of run-down houses.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: jp the roadgeek on May 03, 2013, 12:13:48 AM
Most of Old Country Rd. in Nassau County runs through urban areas.   
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Zmapper on May 03, 2013, 12:55:05 AM
The paper street along the edge of a planned hospital is tentatively named "Le Fever Dr".
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: NE2 on May 03, 2013, 01:50:55 AM
Isn't it ironic that there's no sign here? http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.173382,-78.844929&spn=0.007726,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.173348,-78.844818&panoid=PgZVe78ymYLVakw50FCmcQ&cbp=12,27.81,,0,14.65
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: roadfro on May 03, 2013, 02:14:41 AM
In downtown Reno, NV, "Center Street" is not the actual center or main road through downtown, although it is a major one-way street in downtown. It is not even the dividing line between east and west addresses

The major road and dividing line is Virginia Street (old US 395/unsigned US 395 Bus), which is one block west of Center Street.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: apeman33 on May 03, 2013, 03:32:17 AM
Pittsburg, Kansas' Main Street is a glorified country road on the very west edge of town, on the west side of U.S. 69.

South Street in Joplin is a mile and a half north of North Street.

Any town with a College Street that a) Goes nowhere near a college and never did (Pittsburg) or b) is in a town that does not and never did have a college (Scott City, Kansas).

Center Street in Garden City, Kansas, is, of course, nowhere near the center of town. It's about 10 blocks east of downtown. Also, Fair Street is in the north half of the city. The fairgrounds are along the south city limits (However, I've seen something in the past that suggests that the fairgrounds might have been closer to Fair Street, if not on it, until the mid-20s).
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: golden eagle on May 03, 2013, 08:06:47 AM
We also have a South Street, which is located in downtown Jackson. It runs east & west. There's also a South Drive, which is in west Jackson. It also runs east & west. West Street goes north & south from downtown.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Brandon on May 03, 2013, 09:39:16 AM
Some street names appear ironic, even though they are not.  Take Eastern Avenue in Joliet, Illinois.  It runs north-south, and at a slight angle to north-south.  However, it is named for a railroad, not the direction.

I could come up with a full list of forest-related names from subdivisions placed in farmland on the prairie where no woods were known to have grown.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: jwolfer on May 03, 2013, 11:15:25 AM
not Ironic but funny.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1281.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa504%2FJoseph_Wolfersberger%2F312143_270092246366980_819883351_n_zps37c07286.jpg&hash=645ab95093be3335ddfdf8da78748bb627144a65) (http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Joseph_Wolfersberger/media/312143_270092246366980_819883351_n_zps37c07286.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Brandon on May 03, 2013, 11:52:46 AM
Quote from: jwolfer on May 03, 2013, 11:15:25 AM
not Ironic but funny.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1281.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa504%2FJoseph_Wolfersberger%2F312143_270092246366980_819883351_n_zps37c07286.jpg&hash=645ab95093be3335ddfdf8da78748bb627144a65) (http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Joseph_Wolfersberger/media/312143_270092246366980_819883351_n_zps37c07286.jpg.html)

All you need is both to cross a "Fox Street".  :)

What's even funnier, unintentionally, is the 00 on Cougar Road.  Reminds me of the "oo" in Hooters.  :bigass:
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Kniwt on May 03, 2013, 12:16:18 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F633ts3u.jpg&hash=0ab08ff03dfc3a32786dfd3977175577aa3cef2d)
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: xcellntbuy on May 03, 2013, 12:26:16 PM
We have lots of roads, streets and neighborhoods with "Hill" or "Hills" in south Florida.  T'ain't no hills in south Florida except for the landfills.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: A.J. Bertin on May 03, 2013, 12:28:53 PM
Quote from: NE2 on May 03, 2013, 01:50:55 AM
Isn't it ironic that there's no sign here? http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.173382,-78.844929&spn=0.007726,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.173348,-78.844818&panoid=PgZVe78ymYLVakw50FCmcQ&cbp=12,27.81,,0,14.65

I think the word ironic is being thrown around way too much in this thread. How does the absence of a sign at an intersection constitute irony? I don't follow.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: hobsini2 on May 03, 2013, 01:25:20 PM
One that always gets me in Chicago is not so much the names but where geographically they are in the city. For example, Western Avenue is east of Central Avenue.  There is also a 5th Ave near I-290 and Kedzie Ave that unlike the rest of the numbered avenues that run north-south, actually runs east-west.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: theline on May 03, 2013, 01:44:06 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on May 03, 2013, 12:28:53 PM
Quote from: NE2 on May 03, 2013, 01:50:55 AM
Isn't it ironic that there's no sign here? http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.173382,-78.844929&spn=0.007726,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.173348,-78.844818&panoid=PgZVe78ymYLVakw50FCmcQ&cbp=12,27.81,,0,14.65

I think the word ironic is being thrown around way too much in this thread. How does the absence of a sign at an intersection constitute irony? I don't follow.

NE2 assumed you would notice that the intersection pictured is Ironic Lane & Thorofare Road. The label reappears in the upper left corner of the picture when you move your mouse.

Thanks to all of you for your excellent submissions. I knew you wouldn't let me down.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Brandon on May 03, 2013, 01:46:19 PM
Quote from: theline on May 03, 2013, 01:44:06 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on May 03, 2013, 12:28:53 PM
Quote from: NE2 on May 03, 2013, 01:50:55 AM
Isn't it ironic that there's no sign here? http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.173382,-78.844929&spn=0.007726,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.173348,-78.844818&panoid=PgZVe78ymYLVakw50FCmcQ&cbp=12,27.81,,0,14.65

I think the word ironic is being thrown around way too much in this thread. How does the absence of a sign at an intersection constitute irony? I don't follow.

NE2 assumed you would notice that the intersection pictured is Ironic Lane & Thorofare Road. The label reappears in the upper left corner of the picture when you move your mouse.

Thanks to all of you for your excellent submissions. I knew you wouldn't let me down.

Ironically, the corner of Thorofare and Ironic lacks a sign denoting which street is which (which, I believe was part of SPUI's point).
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: A.J. Bertin on May 03, 2013, 02:16:17 PM
Quote from: theline on May 03, 2013, 01:44:06 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on May 03, 2013, 12:28:53 PM
Quote from: NE2 on May 03, 2013, 01:50:55 AM
Isn't it ironic that there's no sign here? http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.173382,-78.844929&spn=0.007726,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.173348,-78.844818&panoid=PgZVe78ymYLVakw50FCmcQ&cbp=12,27.81,,0,14.65

I think the word ironic is being thrown around way too much in this thread. How does the absence of a sign at an intersection constitute irony? I don't follow.

NE2 assumed you would notice that the intersection pictured is Ironic Lane & Thorofare Road. The label reappears in the upper left corner of the picture when you move your mouse.

Oh... haha! I totally missed that. That is quite funny!
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: jwolfer on May 03, 2013, 04:17:35 PM
One of my friends has a degree in English Lit and he hates Allanis Morrisette because almost nothing in the song " Isn't It Ironic" is Ironic.  They are unfortunate events.  Get a few beers in him and he will bring it up without fail.  I point this out in honor of Vince....

Irony is when the complete opposite of what is expected happens.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: 1995hoo on May 03, 2013, 04:28:24 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on May 03, 2013, 04:17:35 PM
One of my friends has a degree in English Lit and he hates Allanis Morrisette because almost nothing in the song " Isn't It Ironic" is Ironic.  They are unfortunate events.  Get a few beers in him and he will bring it up without fail.  I point this out in honor of Vince....

Irony is when the complete opposite of what is expected happens.

My mother was an English teacher and she introduced the lesson on irony by playing a tape of that song and asking the students if they knew what was wrong with it. Almost none of them ever did. She says she concluded the lesson by telling them to think of the song as "Things That Stink" instead of as "Ironic."
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Alps on May 03, 2013, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 03, 2013, 04:28:24 PMShe says she concluded the lesson by telling them to think of the song as "Things That Stink" instead of as "Ironic."
Pooing is cool and unironic.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: 1995hoo on May 03, 2013, 05:01:10 PM
Quote from: Steve on May 03, 2013, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 03, 2013, 04:28:24 PMShe says she concluded the lesson by telling them to think of the song as "Things That Stink" instead of as "Ironic."
Pooing is cool and unironic.

I don't think the school administration would have appreciated it if she'd said that.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: kphoger on May 03, 2013, 08:34:56 PM
Quote from: Steve on May 03, 2013, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 03, 2013, 04:28:24 PMShe says she concluded the lesson by telling them to think of the song as "Things That Stink" instead of as "Ironic."
Pooing is cool and unironic.

If you think you're only going to fart, and you mistakenly poop, does that count as irony?
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: kphoger on May 03, 2013, 08:35:53 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on May 03, 2013, 08:06:47 AM
We also have a South Street, which is located in downtown Jackson. It runs east & west. There's also a South Drive, which is in west Jackson. It also runs east & west. West Street goes north & south from downtown.

I imagine that's probably more common than South Streets actually running north and south.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Alps on May 04, 2013, 11:24:58 AM
Quote from: kphoger on May 03, 2013, 08:34:56 PM
Quote from: Steve on May 03, 2013, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 03, 2013, 04:28:24 PMShe says she concluded the lesson by telling them to think of the song as "Things That Stink" instead of as "Ironic."
Pooing is cool and unironic.

If you think you're only going to fart, and you mistakenly poop, does that count as irony?
I imagine that's probably more common than South Streets actually running north and south.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: kphoger on May 04, 2013, 12:28:05 PM
Now that's ironic!
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Takumi on May 04, 2013, 07:59:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 03, 2013, 08:35:53 PM
I imagine that's probably more common than South Streets actually running north and south.
Petersburg, VA has one of those. It's divided into North South Street and South South Street.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: cpzilliacus on May 04, 2013, 10:15:32 PM
Quote from: Steve on May 04, 2013, 11:24:58 AM
I imagine that's probably more common than South Streets actually running north and south.

Frederick, Maryland (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=frederick+maryland&hl=en&ll=39.404963,-77.409625&spn=0.018536,0.038581&sll=39.407881,-77.406836&sspn=0.037071,0.077162&gl=us&hnear=Frederick,+Maryland&t=m&z=15) has a South Street that runs (partly) from west to east, but it turns more to a north-south orientation as it approaches and crosses under I-70, where it passes by a quarry owned by Lafarge North America (but still informally known by many truck drivers as the South Street Quarry (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=lafarge++quarry+frederick+maryland&hl=en&ll=39.395811,-77.396193&spn=0.018539,0.038581&sll=39.402725,-77.392888&sspn=0.009335,0.01929&gl=us&hq=lafarge+quarry&hnear=Frederick,+Maryland&t=h&z=15)) and then becomes Reichs Ford Road.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: tdindy88 on May 04, 2013, 11:37:47 PM
Speaking of the directional streets, I remember a business in the Southern Plaza Shopping Center in Indianapolis that I was in a few weeks ago. The plaza is on East Street (formerly US 31 before the rerouting onto I-465.) Now the roadway is called East Street as it is in the same position as East Street in Downtown (part of the Mile Square with a North, South, East and West Streets as it's original border) even though it doesn't connect to the Downtown East Street. Anyways, long story short, the business card for this business refers to the address as XXXX S.E. Street, they mean South East Street, but to me it looks like Southeast Street.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Kacie Jane on May 04, 2013, 11:54:46 PM
I'm not sure if that's better or worse than the opposite.  Here in Bellingham, there's a street that's divided into West North Street and East North Street.  Perhaps it's better that it can't be confused with Westnorth (as opposed to Northwest) but it does come dangerously close to short circuiting my brain.

And for extra brain-twisting fun, there's this intersection that I wasn't aware existed until I pulled up the Goog. http://goo.gl/maps/xQ8Nf  West North Street & West Street.  (No directionals for West Street.)
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: triplemultiplex on May 05, 2013, 06:15:14 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on May 03, 2013, 04:17:35 PM
One of my friends has a degree in English Lit and he hates Allanis Morrisette because almost nothing in the song " Isn't It Ironic" is Ironic.  They are unfortunate events.  Get a few beers in him and he will bring it up without fail.  I point this out in honor of Vince....

Irony is when the complete opposite of what is expected happens.

Like a song supposedly about irony that contains mostly none.
In that way, "Ironic" is a very ironic song.  Almost as if it was intentional...
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: roadman65 on May 05, 2013, 06:19:19 PM
Its ironic in Atlantic City where Pacific Avenue is the closest street to the Atlantic Ocean over Atlantic Avenue one block inland.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: english si on May 05, 2013, 07:28:33 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on May 03, 2013, 04:17:35 PMIrony is when the complete opposite of what is expected happens.
Like a song that is called ironic and suggests a load of things as ironic, none of which are?
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 03, 2013, 04:28:24 PMMy mother was an English teacher and she introduced the lesson on irony by playing a tape of that song and asking the students if they knew what was wrong with it.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: roadman65 on May 05, 2013, 07:41:36 PM
Quote from: english si on May 05, 2013, 07:28:33 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on May 03, 2013, 04:17:35 PMIrony is when the complete opposite of what is expected happens.
Like a song that is called ironic and suggests a load of things as ironic, none of which are?
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 03, 2013, 04:28:24 PMMy mother was an English teacher and she introduced the lesson on irony by playing a tape of that song and asking the students if they knew what was wrong with it.
  • In terms of English, nothing - it's an ironic song, not an English lesson. English teachers' jobs involve understanding genres and being genre-savvy enough to spot the difference between pop song and textbook. I know that Americans struggle with the concept of irony, but an English teacher not spotting irony when giving a lesson in irony... Now isn't that ironic...don't you think. A little too ironic... ;)
  • In terms of song, Canada needs to apologise for Alanis Morissette, just has they have done for Bryan Adams many, many times...
  • In terms of teaching people what 'ironic' means, it doesn't work - I mean look here, two people here (and countless more) have failed to get it! But was that the point?
The problem is that world now has become too political  and its meaning is looked at quite differently than it was years ago.  Technical definitions are a thing of th past for some words and the norm now is politically correct.  You have have to learn that many of us here in this world and especially here on this forum are quite politically motivated.  You will get some conversations that can become quite interesting I must say.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: NE2 on May 05, 2013, 07:52:06 PM
what
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Brandon on May 06, 2013, 01:48:31 PM
Quote from: NE2 on May 05, 2013, 07:52:06 PM
what

Why?
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: hm insulators on May 06, 2013, 03:40:54 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on May 03, 2013, 12:13:48 AM
Most of Old Country Rd. in Nassau County runs through urban areas.

Rural Road through Tempe, Arizona is the same way.

Atlantic Blvd./Ave. through the Los Angeles area runs from Alhambra all the way to Ocean Blvd. in Long Beach--right on the Pacific Ocean.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: kphoger on May 06, 2013, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on May 04, 2013, 11:54:46 PM
I'm not sure if that's better or worse than the opposite.  Here in Bellingham, there's a street that's divided into West North Street and East North Street.  Perhaps it's better that it can't be confused with Westnorth (as opposed to Northwest) but it does come dangerously close to short circuiting my brain.

And for extra brain-twisting fun, there's this intersection that I wasn't aware existed until I pulled up the Goog. http://goo.gl/maps/xQ8Nf  West North Street & West Street.  (No directionals for West Street.)

I guess it just makes more sense to me not to have an East East street.  That might come from having lived in Chicagoland, where North Avenue is a hugely important east-west corridor across the metro area.




Quote from: NE2 on May 05, 2013, 07:52:06 PM
what

My translation:

The problem is that world now has become too political
Politics, bad.  Can't we all just get along?

and its meaning is looked at quite differently than it was years ago.
It's called progress, man.  Get hip to this jive.

Technical definitions are a thing of th past for some words and the norm now is politically correct.
Words should mean whatever the heck people want them to; you wouldn't want to hurt someone's feelings by telling them they're wrong, would you?

You have have to learn that many of us here in this world and especially here on this forum are quite politically motivated.
Politics, bad.  Can't we all just get along?  Commas are of the devil.

You will get some conversations that can become quite interesting I must say.
Can't we all just get along?
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Alps on May 06, 2013, 06:31:37 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2013, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on May 04, 2013, 11:54:46 PM
I'm not sure if that's better or worse than the opposite.  Here in Bellingham, there's a street that's divided into West North Street and East North Street.  Perhaps it's better that it can't be confused with Westnorth (as opposed to Northwest) but it does come dangerously close to short circuiting my brain.

And for extra brain-twisting fun, there's this intersection that I wasn't aware existed until I pulled up the Goog. http://goo.gl/maps/xQ8Nf  West North Street & West Street.  (No directionals for West Street.)

I guess it just makes more sense to me not to have an East East street.  That might come from having lived in Chicagoland, where North Avenue is a hugely important east-west corridor across the metro area.




Quote from: NE2 on May 05, 2013, 07:52:06 PM
what

My translation:

The problem is that world now has become too political
Politics, bad.  Can't we all just get along?

and its meaning is looked at quite differently than it was years ago.
It's called progress, man.  Get hip to this jive.

Technical definitions are a thing of th past for some words and the norm now is politically correct.
Words should mean whatever the heck people want them to; you wouldn't want to hurt someone's feelings by telling them they're wrong, would you?

You have have to learn that many of us here in this world and especially here on this forum are quite politically motivated.
Politics, bad.  Can't we all just get along?  Commas are of the devil.

You will get some conversations that can become quite interesting I must say.
Can't we all just get along?
It's ironic that this thread was derailed by a discussion of irony.

^ The above is not ironic at all, but it's ironic that someone with a thorough grasp of irony, after a thread full of explanation as to proper usage thereof, would state it.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: SP Cook on May 06, 2013, 06:58:40 PM
West Virginia:

Capitol Street in Charleston.  The Capitol that was there burned down in the 1920s, and the "new" Capitol is two miles away.  There is no Capitol on Capitol Street.

College Avenue in Logan.  Marshall opened a community college branch in an abandoned high school building there in 1960, which got the street renamed.  The school, now an independent college, got its own building elsewhere in town decades ago.   There is no college on College Avenue.

John Marshall Drive in Huntington.  The pseudo-address from all mail to Marshall's main campus.   Like all former streets on the inner campus, you can't drive on John Marshall Drive.

James River Turnpike.  An important legal issue in WV right of way law (Virginia reserved land for such an road, and said ROW passed to WV and continues to form the ROW of, mostly US 60 in certain parts of the state).  It was never really built as such, but a street named James River Turnpike exists in many parts of WV, but is neither a turnpike, nor has anything to do with the James River.

Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: theline on May 06, 2013, 09:19:56 PM
Quote from: hm insulators on May 06, 2013, 03:40:54 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on May 03, 2013, 12:13:48 AM
Most of Old Country Rd. in Nassau County runs through urban areas.

Rural Road through Tempe, Arizona is the same way.

Atlantic Blvd./Ave. through the Los Angeles area runs from Alhambra all the way to Ocean Blvd. in Long Beach--right on the Pacific Ocean.

That reminded me of Rural Street in Indianapolis, which AFAIK runs exclusively in the heart of the east side. It has an exit from I-70.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: theline on May 06, 2013, 11:19:28 PM
^^ Sorry, not ironic. Just a puzzling street name. If, for example, the street is in Los Angeles, then the name would be ironic.  :nod:
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: roadman65 on May 06, 2013, 11:31:46 PM
I find it ironic that Jersey City, NJ has an Ocean Avenue when its nowhere near the Ocean.  Usually you will find that named street in ocean side communities mostly the street closest to the ocean running parallel to the shoreline.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Brandon on May 07, 2013, 07:20:46 AM
Quote from: theline on May 06, 2013, 09:19:56 PM
Quote from: hm insulators on May 06, 2013, 03:40:54 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on May 03, 2013, 12:13:48 AM
Most of Old Country Rd. in Nassau County runs through urban areas.

Rural Road through Tempe, Arizona is the same way.

Atlantic Blvd./Ave. through the Los Angeles area runs from Alhambra all the way to Ocean Blvd. in Long Beach--right on the Pacific Ocean.

That reminded me of Rural Street in Indianapolis, which AFAIK runs exclusively in the heart of the east side. It has an exit from I-70.

I've noticed quite a few Rural Streets and Avenues that are well into a city or town, and often in the older parts of town that haven't been rural for at least 110 years or more.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: roadman65 on May 07, 2013, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: Brandon on May 07, 2013, 07:20:46 AM
Quote from: theline on May 06, 2013, 09:19:56 PM
Quote from: hm insulators on May 06, 2013, 03:40:54 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on May 03, 2013, 12:13:48 AM
Most of Old Country Rd. in Nassau County runs through urban areas.

Rural Road through Tempe, Arizona is the same way.

Atlantic Blvd./Ave. through the Los Angeles area runs from Alhambra all the way to Ocean Blvd. in Long Beach--right on the Pacific Ocean.

That reminded me of Rural Street in Indianapolis, which AFAIK runs exclusively in the heart of the east side. It has an exit from I-70.

I've noticed quite a few Rural Streets and Avenues that are well into a city or town, and often in the older parts of town that haven't been rural for at least 110 years or more.
That is why the State of Texas changed some of their Farm-to-Market Roads to Urban Roads, however local residents did not want the change to be seen.  The shields still say F.M or FARM ROAD, but legislatively they're named Urban Roads.

The irony is even in the fact that locals still do not want to give up tradition and keep the name as is even though the urban area F.M roads no longer function as Farm to Market purposes, yet the state road agencies want to change it on paper that no one will see.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: lordsutch on May 08, 2013, 03:49:40 AM
Almost none of the "Fall Line Freeway" is actually built to freeway standards.  And the parts that are either (a) weren't intended to be part of it originally and/or (b) predate the rest of the road by decades.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: lepidopteran on May 09, 2013, 09:52:12 PM
In northeast Columbus, OH, there's an intersection that's ironic if you're a Brady Bunch fan: Reed & Henderson.  (Mike Brady was played by Robert Reed, and Carol Brady by Florence Henderson)
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Mr. Matté on May 10, 2013, 07:02:32 AM
Wouldn't that be ironic if you hated the Brady Bunch?
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: theline on May 10, 2013, 09:11:42 PM
Once again ironic is confused with coincidental.

We have had plenty of examples of truly ironic names. Thanks to all who played!  :clap:
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: roadman65 on May 12, 2013, 11:05:49 AM
The name "Quickway" for NY Route 17 is ironic as it does not seem too quick to travel between I-87 at Harriman to the City of Binghamton.  I always thought it was a boring ride especially west of Monticello and that may contribute to it seeming like a long journey, but it does raise the question of its name conception of what it is to be a quicker route of.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: Bruce on May 12, 2013, 08:08:24 PM
The "Tomahawk Turnpike" in Marysville, WA is just a small feeder road for the local high school, whose mascot is the Tomahawk.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: vtk on May 12, 2013, 08:45:57 PM
Lockbourne, OH: Commerce St has no businesses on it. The last store closed about a year ago.

Powell, OH: Seldom Seen Rd is seen by tens of thousands of commuters each day.

Columbus, OH: Cleveland Ave doesn't go to Cleveland; after crossing I-270 between two roads that do go to Cleveland, it dead-ends in southern Delaware County.

All of these names were un-ironic when they were first applied, I believe.  As a not-so-wise cartoon character will eventually say, time makes fools of us all.
Title: Re: Ironic street names
Post by: empirestate on May 12, 2013, 10:07:08 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 12, 2013, 11:05:49 AM
The name "Quickway" for NY Route 17 is ironic as it does not seem too quick to travel between I-87 at Harriman to the City of Binghamton.  I always thought it was a boring ride especially west of Monticello and that may contribute to it seeming like a long journey, but it does raise the question of its name conception of what it is to be a quicker route of.

Quicker than old NY 17, which it replaced. Remember that the Catskills was for many years a high-traffic summer playground for New Yorkers, traditionally Jewish, in particular (the so-called Borscht Belt).

Though this era has faded, I still can't think of anything nearly as quick for getting through the area today. I-84 and I-81 might be an option, but traffic is much lighter on the Quickway, and it skips Scranton besides. Granted, the Orange County portion is fast becoming a suburban thoroughfare, but that's east of where I-84 provides any option. Also, if one stretch is more boring than another, I would think it would be east of Monticello; west of it, you have some relatively dramatic Castkill Park scenery, culminating in the Hancock area.