This is just stupid. These are on multiple streets that intersects the I-35E frontage road in Carrollton, TX
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a bit overinformative, yes, but I like receiving extra information.
the worst is when they say "road work, next 8.9 miles" - then 8.9 miles of roadwork, maybe 10 feet of no roadwork, and then another sign of "road work, next 12.2 miles". really, you couldn't just add 'em all up?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 28, 2013, 02:28:14 PM
a bit overinformative, yes, but I like receiving extra information.
the worst is when they say "road work, next 8.9 miles" - then 8.9 miles of roadwork, maybe 10 feet of no roadwork, and then another sign of "road work, next 12.2 miles". really, you couldn't just add 'em all up?
The worst part of a legend like "Road Work Next 8.9 Miles" is that most drivers reading the sign won't notice the decimal (Road Work Next 89 Miles).
Is this sign meant to show construction on the frontage road to the right, or is it a witty way of saying there is construction in both directions on the interstate?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 28, 2013, 02:28:14 PM
the worst is when they say "road work, next 8.9 miles" - then 8.9 miles of roadwork, maybe 10 feet of no roadwork, and then another sign of "road work, next 12.2 miles". really, you couldn't just add 'em all up?
Probably two separate contracts with signage handled under each individual contract.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 28, 2013, 03:32:32 PM
Probably two separate contracts with signage handled under each individual contract.
the end user does not care about contract details. just unify 'em.
Not to mention 1 MILES :ded:
Quote from: Brian556 on May 28, 2013, 02:11:28 PM
This is just stupid. These are on multiple streets that intersects the I-35E frontage road in Carrollton, TX
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Like you need to know how far left (N-S-E-or W) road work is even though you can't turn left. I think Road Work would suffice especially for side streets. Distances would be okay for major thoroughfares, highways or interstates
Most of these are about 100 ft in advance of the intersection. I chose to photograph this one due to it being right next to the one way sign.
To me, they are a little confusing, because if you are approaching an intersection, and see one of these before the intersection, it will put the idea in your head that you can turn left. Then you get up to the intersection and see the ONE WAY right sign, and youre like WTF?. It just messes with you bacause it's not right.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 28, 2013, 03:34:20 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 28, 2013, 03:32:32 PM
Probably two separate contracts with signage handled under each individual contract.
the end user does not care about contract details. just unify 'em.
If there's two separate contracts, one may end before the other, so someone would have to go orangeout the number at that point. Or more likely, nobody would, and the sign would just remain inaccurate for the rest of the time the road was being worked on.
More to the point, it would require two companies to work together on something that doesn't matter to either of them, or else have someone at the DOT coordinate the signage on the two projects, when the projects are probably assigned to completely different teams of people to draw up and manage.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 28, 2013, 03:34:20 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 28, 2013, 03:32:32 PM
Probably two separate contracts with signage handled under each individual contract.
the end user does not care about contract details. just unify 'em.
The end user doesn't really care about anything other than the pavement they're driving on. They don't know, and could care less, about how those projects are worked on, along with everything that goes into a project. They don't see the underground drainage and wiring, so that stuff isn't important. Just build the bridge and pave a new lane. That should take no more than two weeks.
They just know that:
1) It's going to take longer than they think it should take, and
2) Why do they have to do the constuction while they are on the road?
OK so no one realizes that the OP is about the fact that there's road work for 2 miles in a direction you can't turn.
Quote from: Steve on June 09, 2013, 04:45:25 PM
OK so no one realizes that the OP is about the fact that there's road work for 2 miles in a direction you can't turn.
While you can't technically make a left turn at the point the sign is posted... knowing Texas, it's probably fairly common to do a U-turn at the next opportunity to head "left". So the sign is advising drivers of the construction situation, no matter which direction on I-35E they intend to go.
Quote from: kphoger on June 10, 2013, 12:27:07 PM
Quote from: Steve on June 09, 2013, 04:45:25 PM
OK so no one realizes that the OP is about the fact that there's road work for 2 miles in a direction you can't turn.
While you can't technically make a left turn at the point the sign is posted... knowing Texas, it's probably fairly common to do a U-turn at the next opportunity to head "left". So the sign is advising drivers of the construction situation, no matter which direction on I-35E they intend to go.
My assumption would be that the roadwork is on the one-way frontage road, not I-35E. So unless they need to go somewhere on the frontage road to their left (in which case they should have chosen a different approach anyway), and plan to U-turn twice, it's highly unlikely that anyone seeing this sign would encounter the two miles of road work to the left.
A semi-related pet peeve of mine: distances given too precisely. For example, I saw a sign last night that said "ROAD WORK: NEXT 4.07 MILES".
7/100 of a mile is not a meaningful distance to me. I mean, I have a general idea of how long a mile is, or how long, say, 1/2 mile or 1/4 mile is, but I wouldn't even know where to begin estimating by the hundredths. And it works out to only 370 extra feet, so why not just round down to 4 miles?
I hate when you can choose two alternate routes and the one you choose has construction. Happened to us on US 89 in Utah/Arizona 2 years ago when we could have taken alt 89. No warning back at the fork.
Quote from: Central Avenue on June 14, 2013, 07:43:30 AM
A semi-related pet peeve of mine: distances given too precisely. For example, I saw a sign last night that said "ROAD WORK: NEXT 4.07 MILES".
7/100 of a mile is not a meaningful distance to me. I mean, I have a general idea of how long a mile is, or how long, say, 1/2 mile or 1/4 mile is, but I wouldn't even know where to begin estimating by the hundredths. And it works out to only 370 extra feet, so why not just round down to 4 miles?
That's specific to only a couple of states, for whatever reason.