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Title: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: mgk920 on June 19, 2013, 12:54:14 PM
The bright green "just ruins the shoot"....

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywood-fights-la-bike-lane-570520

:spin:

Mike
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: NE2 on June 19, 2013, 12:57:41 PM
Dog bites man, and news story comments are dumb.
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 19, 2013, 01:26:40 PM
doesn't the MPAA have better things to do, like censor movies?
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: Brandon on June 19, 2013, 02:31:13 PM
I'd be more concerned about the lack of traction for bicycles in wet weather on the paint.
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: seicer on June 19, 2013, 03:30:48 PM
That was my concern too, when the thermoplastic was applied up here in Cincinnati. But the city installed grit over the thermoplastic and it's not slick in the rain.
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: sdmichael on June 19, 2013, 03:59:48 PM
I say screw the movies if they can't deal with it. There are other streets. Mind you, I know it is a big industry in Los Angeles, but people actually live there too. It isn't their private back lot. As such, Making Los Angeles into the city it wants to become vs what it used to be or is perceived to be should trump any film industry needs.
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: KEK Inc. on June 19, 2013, 07:59:36 PM
If it's a big deal, they can easily edit the green out on Final Cut Pro or whatever they use.

I don't think the city will comply against MUTCD standards for a movie.
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: theline on June 19, 2013, 08:46:05 PM
Quoteit's so fluorescent-y
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: jeffandnicole on June 20, 2013, 09:00:40 AM
Quite funny that an industry that spends tens of millions on special effects per movie can't find a way to edit out painted pavement.

Having said that, bike lanes don't need to be painted.  And if the area is historic, it's historic partly due to the movie industry.  The city (or whoever is in charge of that) needs to realize that as well.  And I'm sure the movie companies pay to 'rent' the area, bringing in the money that ultimately funds the improvements to the area.
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 20, 2013, 12:32:06 PM
Quote from: KEK Inc. on June 19, 2013, 07:59:36 PM
I don't think the city will comply against MUTCD standards for a movie.

really?  the bright green is an MUTCD standard?

I like it; I've never noticed any traction issues.  I thought it was just a few jurisdictions playing around with it - I'd be happy if it were an actual federal standard.
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: seicer on June 20, 2013, 12:57:47 PM
I think quite a few. It is similar to the evolution and eventual adoption of sharrows by the FHWA. The use of sharrows had been adopted by other municipalities and states beforehand and evaluated before being formally adopted.

The use of green paint for bike lanes and conflict areas received interm approval in April 2011.
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/interim_approval/ia14/ia14grnpmbiketlanes.pdf
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 20, 2013, 01:11:57 PM
as much as I like the concept of a 'sharrow', the name is gratingly bad.

also, lots of standards are developed by jurisdictions other than FHWA or AASHO.  in fact, I'm hard-pressed to think of one that was developed by FHWA and AASHO, apart from the 1926 US route shield and the 1957 interstate shield.  nearly everything was tried by a state, found to be useful, and adopted for nationwide use.
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: Alps on June 20, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 20, 2013, 01:11:57 PM
as much as I like the concept of a 'sharrow', the name is gratingly bad.
Sharon Osbourne as a small, annoying bird? (Yes, that's redundant.)
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: sdmichael on June 21, 2013, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 20, 2013, 09:00:40 AM
Quite funny that an industry that spends tens of millions on special effects per movie can't find a way to edit out painted pavement.

Having said that, bike lanes don't need to be painted.  And if the area is historic, it's historic partly due to the movie industry.  The city (or whoever is in charge of that) needs to realize that as well.  And I'm sure the movie companies pay to 'rent' the area, bringing in the money that ultimately funds the improvements to the area.

Their money doesn't buy them the rights to the "what and how" for improvements to that area. They may think that, but it isn't the case. This particular area, Spring Street, is historic because of the structures there, it has nothing to do with the movie industry. If they want full control of an area, they have their own backlots and CGI to fill in the gap.
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: thenetwork on July 15, 2013, 09:20:13 AM
You mean to say that Hollywood's CGI people who digitally add/delete images from movie scenes cannot digitally delete nor alter bike lanes from their shots???

Someone better get TMZ on the scene.
Title: Re: Bicycle lane paint too bright, says 'Hollywood'
Post by: empirestate on July 15, 2013, 12:12:48 PM
Quote from: KEK Inc. on June 19, 2013, 07:59:36 PM
If it's a big deal, they can easily edit the green out on Final Cut Pro or whatever they use.

Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 20, 2013, 09:00:40 AM
Quite funny that an industry that spends tens of millions on special effects per movie can't find a way to edit out painted pavement.

Quote from: thenetwork on July 15, 2013, 09:20:13 AM
You mean to say that Hollywood's CGI people who digitally add/delete images from movie scenes cannot digitally delete nor alter bike lanes from their shots???

Sounds to me from the article that it isn't the lane itself, but its effect on the lighting throughout the shot:
QuoteThe reflectivity -- it's so fluorescent-y that it bounces up into the lofts and the storefront interiors and the cars driving by.

That become a considerably greater undertaking than simply painting them out of a shot, which could probably be done easily by keying and replacing the green color, the same way they put a weather map behind a weatherman or a first-down line on a football field. But if you have to re-touch everything in the shot it gets more expensive, leaving less money to give the city in exchange for its filming rights. I'm not taking a side myself, but this, I'm sure, is the filmmakers' (or rather, their employees' unions) point of view.