So living where I am now, my apartment is in Missouri, but only about three blocks away from Kansas. Right on the state line in this area (except for a two block deviation due to a waterway,) there is State Line Road, which sits right on the state line between Missouri and Kansas. It's aptly named - literally, one can walk from one state to the other by crossing the road.
This has led me to ask, are there any other prominent roads such as State Line? I know there's another such road in Texarkana, but are there any others y'all can think of?
State Street in Bristol (straddles Virginia/Tennessee state line) and another in Delmar (straddles Delaware/Maryland state line)
State Line Avenue in Texarkana
I'm not sure if rue Canusa in Beebe, Quebec, actually straddles the border or if it just runs directly adjacent to it, but it seems to fit here.
0 Ave in Canada runs along the border, just east of the WA-543/BC-15 border crossing.
I think if you do a little driving on grass, you can execute an illegal border hop.
Many flat midwestern states have state line roads. A large part of the US/Canada border has roads on either side of the international border, often with only a ditch or canal between the Canadian and American road.
What about the state line road that stradles Ardmore, TN and Ardmore, AL?
I'm not sure exactly what qualifies something as prominent, but there is a State Line Rd separating Chicago from Hammond running from 106th St to 112th St, then farther south it picks up again separating Calumet City/Lansing from Hammond running from just north of Sibley Blvd to just north of the Kingery/Borman.
There are plenty of other places along Indiana's borders with IL/MI/OH that have a State Line Rd, but the IN/KY border has no such road.
Quote from: realjd on June 27, 2013, 04:19:01 PM
Many flat midwestern states have state line roads. A large part of the US/Canada border has roads on either side of the international border, often with only a ditch or canal between the Canadian and American road.
Exactly. There's a bunch of county and state line roads across the Midwest due to the PLSS and its associated meridians and parallels. Not all of them are prominent however. Some in the Chicago area that are major roads in their own right are:
Lake-Cook Road.
County Line Road (Cook/DuPage south of Hinsdale).
Harlem Avenue (IL-43).
Base Line Road (US-30).
Then there's State Line Avenue separating Chicago and Calumet City, Illinois from Hammond, Indiana (interrupted by Wolf Lake).
A lot of the others are minor roads that are there due to the PLSS:
183rd St, Will-Cook Rd, 135th St, Steger Rd, County Line Rd (Will-Kendall), 87th St among others.
Quote from: cabiness42 on June 27, 2013, 04:42:39 PMthe IN/KY border has no such road.
are there any roads anywhere which parallel a river and are called State Line Road?
more generally - are there any State Line Roads which are not straight and an obvious result of a land apportionment survey?
Two in Southeastern PA:
City Ave. (or City Line Ave. aka US 1) falls along the Philadelphia/Montgomery County line (City of Philadelphia/Lower Merion Township).
County Line Road runs in a northwesterly direction from PA 532 (Bustleton Ave.) to Allentown Road and divides Bucks County from Philadelphia (for about 1/4 to 1/2 mile) and Montgomery Counties. The northern side of the road is all Bucks County and the southern side is Montgomery & Philadlephia County.
Western Avenue along the D.C./Maryland border might qualify. The street is entirely within D.C., but Maryland starts at the northern edge.
This causes headaches for Maryland residents living on the avenue, who can't get permits for street parking since D.C. owns the street and won't issue permits for non-District residents.
Marion County (Indianapolis) had, I believe, at one time three (maybe four) County Line Roads for the west, east and south edges of the county. The north county line is 96th Street and I think it's always been that way. However through the years West County Line Road was renamed to Raceway Road and East County Line Road became Carroll Road. South County Line Road has since become County Line Road. In the northwest part of the county there is also a Township Line Road to designate the boundary between Pike and Washington Townships.
Quote from: cabiness42 on June 27, 2013, 04:42:39 PM
There are plenty of other places along Indiana's borders with IL/MI/OH that have a State Line Rd, but the IN/KY border has no such road.
For the KY/IN border, how about Waterworks Road, south of Evansville. If the Goog is to be believed, the state line runs along the road's edge for a short while: https://www.google.com/maps?q=Evansville,+IN&ll=37.926512,-87.552645&spn=0.007168,0.016512&sll=41.674720399475035,-86.27623253685643&sspn=0.2428778888927202,0.6595106170522954&t=h&dg=opt&hnear=Evansville,+Vanderburgh,+Indiana&z=17 (https://www.google.com/maps?q=Evansville,+IN&ll=37.926512,-87.552645&spn=0.007168,0.016512&sll=41.674720399475035,-86.27623253685643&sspn=0.2428778888927202,0.6595106170522954&t=h&dg=opt&hnear=Evansville,+Vanderburgh,+Indiana&z=17)
Much of Moreland Avenue (US 23/SR 42) in Atlanta runs directly along the Fulton/DeKalb county line.
State Line Rd exists in several instances between WI and IL. Some of the more lengthy segments are (going east) from Warren IL to Winslow IL, N Chapel Rd (N of Freeport IL) to Wheeler Rd (just W of the Sugar River), in Beloit WI/South Beloit IL named Shirland Ave, WI 67 (actually north of the State Line) to Bissell Rd (NW of Hebron IL), Antioch IL (actually about a 1/2 mi in IL) to I-94 W Frontage Rd and Russell Rd/128th St about 1 1/2 miles E of I-94 to just E of IL 137/WI 32.
Also, Kautz Rd is the name given for the Kane-DuPage County Line Road.
There's a prominent County Line Rd. near the northern border of Ocean County, NJ that carries CR 528 at points. Then there is a discontiguous Province Line Rd. that traces the original East Jersey/West Jersey boundary*.
*There were a few different lines delineating the two provinces, but this is the one that lasted the longest.
The road along the Canadian—Oklahoma county line is County Line Road. Further south it picks up again with the same name and serves as the Grady—McClain county line.
Then, of course, there's the matter of OK-20/AR-43.
State Line Rd separates Memphis, Tennessee proper from its Mississippi suburbs.
Quote from: Steve on June 27, 2013, 07:06:34 PM
There's a prominent County Line Rd. near the northern border of Ocean County, NJ that carries CR 528 at points. Then there is a discontiguous Province Line Rd. that traces the original East Jersey/West Jersey boundary*.
*There were a few different lines delineating the two provinces, but this is the one that lasted the longest.
This road was an exciting discovery for me many years ago, as I imagine it would be for most political geography geeks, as it is (along with county lines) one of very few remaining vestiges of this unsolidified part of NJ history. It's probably very little considered among today's New Jerseyans that not only was their state split into two separate proprietary colonies for decades, but for several decades after was in essence a vassal state of New York, which took a good chunk of NJ's northern end (Port Jervis, New Jersey, anyone?). And New Jersey remains a place of constant division and struggle to this day.
In Michigan, there are many county line roads in the Lower Peninsula that spring to mind. Many of them are named as portmanteaus of the adjacent county names, such as:
- Clarabella Road (Clare—Isabella)
- Costabella Road (Mecosta—Isabella)
- Grand Kal Road (Grand Traverse—Kalkaska)
- Newcosta Road (Newaygo—Mecosta)
- Mesceola Road (Mecosta—Osceola)
- Kenowa Avenue (Kent—Ottawa, also used as the name along the Kent—Muskegon county line)
- Ottogan (Ottawa—Allegan)
- Clintonia (Clinton—Ionia)
Many others in the LP have names either unrelated to being a county line, or they're just named the generic "County Line Road" In the UP, I can't really think of any cases where there is a road that follows a county line, much less any fancy naming.
Baseline Road straddles several county lines in Southwest Michigan. The road is discontinuous and is called Baseline Hwy in Eaton County. Oh and whilst I am at it you have Vankal Rd (Van Buren-Kalamazoo), Van Buren St. (Van Buren-Cass) and Jackson Rd. (Calhoun-Jackson).
Quote from: Steve on June 27, 2013, 07:06:34 PM
There's a prominent County Line Rd. near the northern border of Ocean County, NJ that carries CR 528 at points. Then there is a discontiguous Province Line Rd. that traces the original East Jersey/West Jersey boundary*.
*There were a few different lines delineating the two provinces, but this is the one that lasted the longest.
County Line Road is CR 526. The county line in that area is actually one of the branches of the Metedeconk River which is 100 or so yards north of the road. CR 537 is actually the border between Monmouth and Ocean County a few miles to the west of County Line Road. But its just called Route 537
Quote from: ce929wax on June 27, 2013, 09:21:24 PM
Baseline Road straddles several county lines in Southwest Michigan. The road is discontinuous and is called Baseline Hwy in Eaton County. Oh and whilst I am at it you have Vankal Rd (Van Buren-Kalamazoo), Van Buren St. (Van Buren-Cass) and Jackson Rd. (Calhoun-Jackson).
And Base Line Road becomes major over between Oakland/Macomb Counties and Wayne County as 8 Mile Road, part of it being M-102.
State Line Rd between Lucas County, OH and Monroe County, MI is unique in the fact that it is off the border for most of its' length. It drifts both north and south of the border, not in a straight line like the border.
It would be utterly pointless to try to list all of the county line roads. There are literally tens of thousands of examples across the country.
Quote from: oscar on June 27, 2013, 05:09:49 PM
Western Avenue along the D.C./Maryland border might qualify.
Ditto for Eastern and Southern Avenues.
Quote from: bugo on June 28, 2013, 02:04:15 PM
It would be utterly pointless to try to list all of the county line roads. There are literally tens of thousands of examples across the country.
But that will not stop us from trying.
Still my favorite in the "state" category is State Line Street dividing Union City, IN/OH. Not only are the twin cities separated by a state line, but for decades they were officially divided by a time zone difference for six months each year. Far worse, I think, than having the difference all year.
Indiana finally acquiesced to daylight saving time and Union Citians were spared ever again having to ask, "Indiana time or Ohio time?"
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Quote from: JCinSummerfield on June 28, 2013, 01:11:50 PM
State Line Rd between Lucas County, OH and Monroe County, MI is unique in the fact that it is off the border for most of its' length. It drifts both north and south of the border, not in a straight line like the border.
I distinctly remember driving that road, looking for old signs because there is a 24 cutout nearby.
WTF? why is it so incorrect? it doesn't appear to a) follow a geographical feature, b) be the result of an old survey of the state line.
Quote from: theline on June 28, 2013, 02:26:28 PM
Quote from: bugo on June 28, 2013, 02:04:15 PM
It would be utterly pointless to try to list all of the county line roads. There are literally tens of thousands of examples across the country.
But that will not stop us from trying.
Still my favorite in the "state" category is State Line Street dividing Union City, IN/OH. Not only are the twin cities separated by a state line, but for decades they were officially divided by a time zone difference for six months each year. Far worse, I think, than having the difference all year.
Indiana finally acquiesced to daylight saving time and Union Citians were spared ever again having to ask, "Indiana time or Ohio time?"
A bit farther south, College Corner IN/OH has a school that straddles the state line. When I was very young I lived in Richmond and we passed it on our way to Cincinnati.
NY 269's entire length is on the Niagara/Orleans county line, and NY 272's entire length is the Orleans/Monroe line.
This road (http://goo.gl/maps/8Tlm9) doesn't get nearly enough love in roadgeeking circles. Supposedly Alberta provides the gravel and Montana maintains it.
I know of two, one near Tulelake, California and one north of Milton-Freewater, Oregon. Working for the utility company that serves these areas these addresses can be a royal pain in the ass because oftentimes the mail is handled by one post office regardless of what side of the road it is on, and the telephone service is handled out of one exchange. I had one customer who had an Oregon mailing address but a Washington physical address. Of course we have to have the physical address correct because we have to collect taxes that are jurisdictional dependent (for example, we don't want to charge Washington sales tax on a customer who's electric meter is in Oregon). And in some cases that means you have customers who live in one state, but have another state's area code for their phone number. Fortunately with cell phones, this isn't really as big of a deal anymore...
NY 120a aka king street straddles the NY CT border
Speaking of Tulelake, CA 161 is the border straddling highway between US 97 and OR 39/CA 139.
However, the prime example of this goes to AB/SK 17. Starting at SK 14 northwest of Macklin, SK, SK 17 goes north for a ways, then jogs over to Alberta and becomes AB 17. Keeps heading north for a ways and then heads back to the border, only to straddle it and be dual-signed as AB 17/SK 17, all the way through Lloydminster, AB/SK to Onion Lake, AB/SK, with two jogs into SK and back into AB.
http://goo.gl/maps/WocMS
Quote from: corco on June 28, 2013, 10:25:48 PM
This road (http://goo.gl/maps/8Tlm9) doesn't get nearly enough love in roadgeeking circles. Supposedly Alberta provides the gravel and Montana maintains it.
I bet you made the NSA go nuts over all the road enthusiasts that just checked out that border road.
Quote from: sp_redelectric on June 29, 2013, 01:27:17 AM
I know of two, one near Tulelake, California and one north of Milton-Freewater, Oregon. Working for the utility company that serves these areas these addresses can be a royal pain in the ass because oftentimes the mail is handled by one post office regardless of what side of the road it is on, and the telephone service is handled out of one exchange. I had one customer who had an Oregon mailing address but a Washington physical address. Of course we have to have the physical address correct because we have to collect taxes that are jurisdictional dependent (for example, we don't want to charge Washington sales tax on a customer who's electric meter is in Oregon). And in some cases that means you have customers who live in one state, but have another state's area code for their phone number. Fortunately with cell phones, this isn't really as big of a deal anymore...
Holy crap, I think I discovered the only non-Interstate in Oregon signed higher than 55 MPH! http://goo.gl/maps/fxoBu Too bad we can't have any more :( I knew this road existed, but I always thought it was entirely in California, but that seems to be untrue, even though it's signed as a CA state route the whole way. Interesting...
EDIT: It seems Google might be a bit off, and it's technically all in CA. So much for that :/
The only prominent Nebraska county line road is Harrison Street, which separates Douglas County (Omaha) from Sarpy County. A large segment is a divided highway. FWIW, Dutch Hall Road separates Douglas County from Dodge/Washington Counties on the north end, but no one cares about that except the onetime local band Dutch Hall Road.
Quote from: corco on June 28, 2013, 10:25:48 PM
This road (http://goo.gl/maps/8Tlm9) doesn't get nearly enough love in roadgeeking circles. Supposedly Alberta provides the gravel and Montana maintains it.
Reason #12,954 why border patrol along the Canadian border is stupid, fruitless, and downright silly.
For sure- and I have absolutely no idea how you'd legally use that road eastbound. There's a border station in Coutts at I-15, obviously, and then there's one waaay east at Aden (but you'd have to go pretty far into Alberta or Montana to get to it), but that wouldn't make sense. I guess you have to stop at the appropriate customs office before getting on the road if you're changing countries.
Quote from: corco on June 28, 2013, 10:25:48 PM
This road (http://goo.gl/maps/8Tlm9) doesn't get nearly enough love in roadgeeking circles. Supposedly Alberta provides the gravel and Montana maintains it.
I like the sign that says "Canada diagonal, USA straight ahead". It looks like an unsecure border crossing. Also, it looks like if you got off at the last NB exit on I-15 you could access the road without going through customs.
Quote from: corco on June 28, 2013, 10:25:48 PM
This road (http://goo.gl/maps/8Tlm9) doesn't get nearly enough love in roadgeeking circles. Supposedly Alberta provides the gravel and Montana maintains it.
I've followed that road on Google Maps and GSV. It appears to provide ample opportunity to circumvent U.S. and/or Canadian customs. With all the emphasis on border security, I'm surprised it isn't closed off, though it appears that the road is in the U.S. and provides access to Canadian residences - maybe the reason for the maintenance arrangement cited above.
Quote from: Molandfreak on June 28, 2013, 02:41:37 PM
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Reminds me of DE/MD 54. In addition to the state highway meandering over the line several times, there are other pieces of road (like Line Church Rd.) that follow the border, and aren't straight lines themselves. At the eastern end of the border, Williamsville Rd. in DE becomes Delaware Rd. in MD, serving a development with no connection to the rest of the state, then becomes Williamsville Rd. once more in DE.
Quote from: corco on June 29, 2013, 11:01:15 AMI guess you have to stop at the appropriate customs office before getting on the road if you're changing countries.
that's how it works in South America. the facilities are often located a few kilometers away from the actual border. you check out of one country, then check into the other one.
bit of a thread resurrection. here's an "Old State Line Road" in northern PA.
http://goo.gl/maps/iwmPE
why is it there? zoom out and extend New York's east-west straight line border.
I do not know if anyone mentioned this before but NJ Secondary (CR 537) straddles the Ocean/ Monmouth County Line in New Jersey.
Also, NJ 27 is the border between Somerset & Middlesex Counties south of New Brunswick.
Of course there is US 71 in Texarkana as well as South State Line Avenue.
MD/DE 54 is a two state highway.
NJ 23 has a wide median near Maccopin Reservoir in Northern New Jersey where the county line is in the Pequannock River that runs inside of NJ 23, if Steve did not mention it already. SB NJ 23 is in Morris while NB NJ 23 is in Passeic.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 13, 2013, 08:02:21 PM
bit of a thread resurrection. here's an "Old State Line Road" in northern PA.
http://goo.gl/maps/iwmPE
why is it there? zoom out and extend New York's east-west straight line border.
It's the Erie Triangle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erie_Triangle). It's a small section of land that originally did not fall under the charters of either Pennsylvania or New York, but was claimed by Connecticut and Massachusetts. All four claimed the land by the 1780s. All four states surrendered their claims to the federal government. The Feds then sold the land to Pennsylvania so that Pennsylvania could have Great Lakes access and have a boundary at Ellicott's Line, the current western boundary of Pennsylvania, instead of further west nearer Cleveland.
Quote from: Molandfreak on June 28, 2013, 02:41:37 PM
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Funnily enough, for anyone who isn't aware of the OK 20/AR 43 concurrency, the MO 43 sign is pointing into AR. Going northbound it's posted as MO-43 and southbound as AR-43. At no point does the concurrency enter MO though.
I sort of wonder if instead of being posted as a concurrency, the intent was for the non-OK stuff to be signed as a trailblazer, but someone at ODOT whiffed the installation.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 27, 2013, 04:46:41 PM
more generally - are there any State Line Roads which are not straight and an obvious result of a land apportionment survey?
State Line Rd in Darlington, PA is not completely straight due to the hilly terrain. Much of its alignment is due to land apportionment survey (certainly the state line part and maybe other straight parts) but since the whole road isn't one straight line, it's not obvious.
Every year on the Thursday following Labor Day, there's a good chance this road will experience a traffic jam as thousands arrive at Volleyball Superbowl.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 27, 2013, 04:46:41 PM
more generally - are there any State Line Roads which are not straight and an obvious result of a land apportionment survey?
Well, there is a pretty extensive County Line Road marking the border between Union and Snyder counties in PA. It's nowhere near linear.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 28, 2013, 02:57:25 PM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on June 28, 2013, 01:11:50 PM
State Line Rd between Lucas County, OH and Monroe County, MI is unique in the fact that it is off the border for most of its' length. It drifts both north and south of the border, not in a straight line like the border.
I distinctly remember driving that road, looking for old signs because there is a 24 cutout nearby.
WTF? why is it so incorrect? it doesn't appear to a) follow a geographical feature, b) be the result of an old survey of the state line.
What an odd road --- there are a number of houses where half of the driveway is in Ohio, and the other half of the driveway (plus the house itself) is in Michigan! And vice versa!
Quote from: oscar on June 27, 2013, 05:09:49 PM
Western Avenue along the D.C./Maryland border might qualify. The street is entirely within D.C., but Maryland starts at the northern edge.
This causes headaches for Maryland residents living on the avenue, who can't get permits for street parking since D.C. owns the street and won't issue permits for non-District residents.
Same holds true for Eastern Avenue, N.E. and N.W. and Southern Avenue, N.E. and S.E. The streets are entirely in D.C., but the curb on the Maryland side is (generally accepted) as the border, except that there is an Eastern Avenue "frontage" road in the City of Takoma Park, Montgomery County, Md. here (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=takoma+park+md&hl=en&ll=38.971513,-77.009633&spn=0.004663,0.009645&sll=48.997448,-111.78118&sspn=0.126817,0.308647&hnear=Takoma+Park,+Montgomery,+Maryland&t=h&z=17) that is entirely in Maryland.
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Actually, I have a theory on this:
The sign assembly is ODOT, so I am thinking Oklahoma did this intentionally since OK 20 (and AR 43) becomes MO 43. Southbound, OK 20 is posted with AR 43 since the road eventually crosses into Arkansas.
But back on topic, there is a State Line Road north of Eureka Springs, AR. It is Carroll County 242 and Table Lake Road P-1
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There is also a State Line Road off US 371 north of Springhill, LA:
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Quote from: keithvh on August 20, 2013, 09:14:16 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 28, 2013, 02:57:25 PM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on June 28, 2013, 01:11:50 PM
State Line Rd between Lucas County, OH and Monroe County, MI is unique in the fact that it is off the border for most of its' length. It drifts both north and south of the border, not in a straight line like the border.
I distinctly remember driving that road, looking for old signs because there is a 24 cutout nearby.
WTF? why is it so incorrect? it doesn't appear to a) follow a geographical feature, b) be the result of an old survey of the state line.
What an odd road --- there are a number of houses where half of the driveway is in Ohio, and the other half of the driveway (plus the house itself) is in Michigan! And vice versa!
Probably because the land was surveyed and settled before the current state border was established. Then the road aquired the name "state line rd" due to its proximity to the border, probably more than a century later.
Quote from: keithvh on August 20, 2013, 09:14:16 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 28, 2013, 02:57:25 PM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on June 28, 2013, 01:11:50 PM
State Line Rd between Lucas County, OH and Monroe County, MI is unique in the fact that it is off the border for most of its' length. It drifts both north and south of the border, not in a straight line like the border.
I distinctly remember driving that road, looking for old signs because there is a 24 cutout nearby.
WTF? why is it so incorrect? it doesn't appear to a) follow a geographical feature, b) be the result of an old survey of the state line.
What an odd road --- there are a number of houses where half of the driveway is in Ohio, and the other half of the driveway (plus the house itself) is in Michigan! And vice versa!
I grew up in this area ... a childhood friend of mine lived in one of those houses on the Michigan side. He honestly believed that Ohio was this place that you had to ride for hours and hours and hours and hours to get to ... there was absolutely NO convincing him that Ohio was at the end of his driveway until he was 14 or so ... :hmmm:
Our county line rd does a fine job at avoiding the county line damn near entirely.
We have a County Line Rd. in the Jackson area. The section east of I-55 is one of the busiest retail areas in the area, especially during holidays.
Someone mentioned State Line Rd. separating Memphis & Mississippi. Actually, that road lies a little bit south of the Tennessee line, but not by much. Still, it's entirely in MS.
There's a segment of Virginia and West Virginia Route 127 that appears on maps to run right on the state line for a short distance, but I don't know whether the state line runs down the middle or is located to one side. I drove on the segment last July and found the states' welcome signs were located near the western end of the segment (and then, to the west of those, there was a small business called "State Line Store"), which at least suggests the state line is to the south of the road.
Of course, given that West Virginia was originally part of Virginia, who knows whether there was a road there before the states separated.
Here's the location on a map: http://goo.gl/maps/GI3Dt
I think the line runs down the middle of the road in that location. I've driven it a couple of times.
Assuming it runs along the actual line, be it state our county, who maintains it? Joint effort of the counties/states? 50/50 splits?
Quote from: OCGuy81 on February 07, 2014, 06:19:59 PM
Assuming it runs along the actual line, be it state our county, who maintains it? Joint effort of the counties/states? 50/50 splits?
My guess is one county maintains it (if it's a county road), but receives financial assistance from the other county.
OK20/AR(MO) 43 appears to be ODOT maintained, though the east side of the roadway has Benton County Road Blades.
In New York:
County Line Road (Suffolk CR 1)
Town Line Road (Suffolk CR 76)
Town Line Road (Rockland CR 42)
I-86 at the Pennsylvania-New York border (between exits 3 and 4) has a State Line Rd. directly north of it, at least according to Google Maps. (Google Maps additionally calls it Stetson Rd.) Can anyone confirm both names?
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Quote from: OCGuy81 on February 07, 2014, 06:19:59 PM
Assuming it runs along the actual line, be it state our county, who maintains it? Joint effort of the counties/states? 50/50 splits?
My guess is one county maintains it (if it's a county road), but receives financial assistance from the other county.
OK20/AR(MO) 43 appears to be ODOT maintained, though the east side of the roadway has Benton County Road Blades.
The states appear to have agreed to split the maintenance. North of Maysville, 43/20 appears to run just inside the OK side of the line. South of Maysville, it's a little more ambiguous in the short stretch where the road follows the border, and there's no OK signage.
Here's a couple more that I forgot about last night. There's Town Line Road along the border between the towns of Huntington and Smithtown in Suffolk County, New York. There's also a street going along the New York City that's known as Hook Creek Boulevard on the Queens side and Ocean Avenue on the Nassau side.
Just ran across this today:
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.0217463,-85.3632169,13.75z
I know there have been a couple of instances of State Line Roads that meander slightly off of the actual state line already mentioned in this thread, but, wow, this one doesn't even try to pretend it's following a state line! I don't believe I've ever seen any other State Line Road that so blatantly does not follow a state line. (See the road angling southwest from Cottonwood to the Florida Welcome Station.)
Rather than being named State Line Road because it's on a state line, it's named that (I assume) because it takes traffic *to* a state line.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 27, 2013, 04:15:33 PM
I think if you do a little driving on grass, you can execute an illegal border hop.
Which raises a question: Which would be the more serious offense? :-D
Could it be that it leads to a locality named State Line?
Also, not to hijack but I just thought of something else: any roads that follow a certain boundary but are named for a lower-order boundary instead? For example, a road along a county line called Town Line Road, or along a state line called County Line Road?
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The Llano Estacado has several state line roads due to its ultra-flat nature and the disconnect between the county road systems in NM and TX.
Roosevelt Road A, south of Texico, NM, is a state line road. It's marked on Google Maps as SR 348 but does not appear to be signed as such once it actually reaches the state line. So I'm not sure if it's still a "state line state route" but it is apparently still maintained by a New Mexico agency.
Quote from: coatimundi on November 15, 2016, 05:38:27 PM
Roosevelt Road A, south of Texico, NM, is a state line road. It's marked on Google Maps as SR 348 but does not appear to be signed as such once it actually reaches the state line. So I'm not sure if it's still a "state line state route" but it is apparently still maintained by a New Mexico agency.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.3841158,-103.0437584,3a,75y,347.26h,97.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX_4W7X92kCoJ_1PKU2dSWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2892977,-103.0431518,3a,75y,276.67h,90.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4Ad6Z9v66QtUVoEwLaHa_g!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
There are several Mason-Dixon Roads along the Mason-Dixon Line between Pennsylvania and Maryland.
MN/IA is mostly unbroken in terms of state line roads except across bodies of water that straddle the state line. US 75 curves to follow the line briefly as does MN 22 before it becomes an IA county route.
Metro Phoenix
Hunt Highway Chandler Heights/Empire Blvd Queen Creek, Eastbound Pinal County/Westbound Maricopa County
Meridian Road Southbound in Maricopa County/Northbound In Pinal County
McClintock Drive Southbound Tempe/Northbound Salt River Pima-Maricopa Nation
Mckellips Road Eastbound SRPM Nation/Westbound Scottsdale
Pima Road Northbound SRPM Nation/Southbound Scottsdale
County Line Rd between Polk and Warren Counties in the Des Moines area can be pretty confusing, due to having two counties as well as being on the city limit in places.
The north side is in Polk County and is entirely within Des Moines city limits. Within the city grid, it can either be County Line Rd or E County Line Rd depending on which side of South Union St you're on.
The south side is in Warren County, and is only partially within city limits. The parts not within the city limits are all County Line Rd and have vastly different address ranges from those within the city (think in the 10000 range, versus in the 1-1000 range). So at one point you can be at 10000 County Line Rd but across the street it is 2 E County Line Rd. Fun stuff.
Quote from: TR69 on November 15, 2016, 10:46:47 PM
Quote from: coatimundi on November 15, 2016, 05:38:27 PM
Roosevelt Road A, south of Texico, NM, is a state line road. It's marked on Google Maps as SR 348 but does not appear to be signed as such once it actually reaches the state line. So I'm not sure if it's still a "state line state route" but it is apparently still maintained by a New Mexico agency.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.3841158,-103.0437584,3a,75y,347.26h,97.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX_4W7X92kCoJ_1PKU2dSWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2892977,-103.0431518,3a,75y,276.67h,90.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4Ad6Z9v66QtUVoEwLaHa_g!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
The first link is directing traffic into New Mexico from the state line road, and that's the section that's known to be a state highway and is already signed.
The second is still there when you look at the newer GSV from the state line road. But what's weird is that it's not signed much further up the road, at FM 292. I don't know much about NM highways, so I don't know how to check on it. There may be a history behind this too, as far as who got maintenance on it.
Can-Ada Rd. straddles the line between Canyon County and Ada County, ID.
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(The red is Ada county, the border shifts exactly 2 miles east, to McDermott Rd., south of Ustick, so this same thing exists there too)
Here is an interesting bit from Ada County Highway District (responsible for all public non-state maintained roads in the entire county) about this road:
QuoteCan-Ada Road (the hyphen/capital "A" is necessary to avoid confusing our bordering friends to the north) is Ada County's northwest border with Canyon County.
Several road agencies manage the road. North of Ustick Road, it's maintained by Canyon Highway District Number 4. Between Ustick and Cherry Lane, Can-Ada falls under the jurisdiction of the Nampa Highway District. South of Cherry, where the road is in need of attention, the name changes to Idaho Center Boulevard and is the responsibility of the city of Nampa. Keeping up with who is in charge can get confusing when you depart "one-highway-district" Ada County.
Source: http://www.achdidaho.org/Departments/PR/RoadWizard/Entries.aspx?MID=444
Quote from: doorknob60 on November 17, 2016, 05:40:06 PM
Here is an interesting bit from Ada County Highway District (responsible for all public non-state maintained roads in the entire county) about this road:
QuoteCan-Ada Road (the hyphen/capital "A" is necessary to avoid confusing our bordering friends to the north) is Ada County's northwest border with Canyon County.
"I don't think this is right..."
"What? The road says it goes to Canada."
So I guess the "Can" is first because a Canyon County agency always maintains it. Seems like they should have just sucked it up and made it "AdaCan Road" if they were concerned about the confusion.
Geez, I wish my highway department had a QA feature...
Quote from: empirestate on November 15, 2016, 05:28:54 PM
any roads that follow a certain boundary but are named for a lower-order boundary instead? For example, a road along a county line called Town Line Road, or along a state line called County Line Road?
West Townline Rd., the western boundary of the town of Junius, NY, is also the boundary between Ontario and Seneca counties.
Stateline Avenue in South Lake Tahoe extends northwest from US 50. According to the El Dorado County assessor's map as superimposed on satellite imagery, the entire street and just about all of the sidewalk are in California with the actual state line being very close to the edge of the Harvey's hotel/casino building.
After a couple hundred yards, Stateline Avenue bends away from the state line into California, while the state line continues across the Edgewood golf course to Lake Tahoe. When you play the 9th hole at Edgewood, you hit your tee shot out of California into Nevada.
WA/ID 41 in Newport, WA. The road is technically Idaho Highway 41, but because it straddles the state line on State St., it was signed as both.
Quote from: Alps on July 01, 2013, 08:24:38 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on June 28, 2013, 02:41:37 PM
Let's not forget: :bigass:
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Reminds me of DE/MD 54. In addition to the state highway meandering over the line several times, there are other pieces of road (like Line Church Rd.) that follow the border, and aren't straight lines themselves. At the eastern end of the border, Williamsville Rd. in DE becomes Delaware Rd. in MD, serving a development with no connection to the rest of the state, then becomes Williamsville Rd. once more in DE.
Not that far away (but on the other side of the state, about 35 miles away (hey, it's a
small state with an odd shape)), there's another road that hugs a Maryland state boundary.
That would be Swan Gut Road (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.0132419,-75.3986821/36254+Swan+Gut+Road,+Stockton,+VA+21864/@38.0111325,-75.4350646,14z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b96bf50827dc59:0x5d89b7577a9033cb!2m2!1d-75.4357406!2d38.0103488), most of which is also VA-679, but according to the VDOT county atlas maps that Mapmikey recently shared, is
on the state line (Worcester County, Maryland to the north, Accomack County, Virginia to the south).
Not clear if Maryland (or Worcester County in particular) helps to fund any of the maintenance cost for this road.
Here's another example of a numbered, signed state route on a state line. In the first picture below, we're traveling westbound on OH 111. We're coming up to a T intersection, with the crossroad being the state line.
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In the photo below we've made the left onto State Line Road, heading south. So, the OH 111 shield pictured below is, theoretically, on Indiana soil. I say "theoretically" because I suppose it's possible that the true state line could be the ditch running along the right side of the road.
OH 111 only proceeds for 2/3rds of a mile on State Line Road and then just ends, unceremoniously, in the middle of nowhere. It doesn't end at another numbered highway or in a town. The 111 designation just ceases to be. My guess is that traffic on this route is usually heading from Paulding to Woodbury/US 24/Fort Wayne. ODOT took traffic along this pathway for as long as it could...up to the point where motorists would turn right into Indiana.
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These photos were taken in Spring 1998.
There's a County Line Road between Adams and York counties, Pennsylvania that crosses U.S. Route 15.
Quote from: TEG24601 on November 19, 2016, 05:28:31 PM
WA/ID 41 in Newport, WA. The road is technically Idaho Highway 41, but because it straddles the state line on State St., it was signed as both.
Got it backwards- it's technically both and has only ever been signed as Idaho 41.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on November 19, 2016, 10:28:40 PM
Quote from: Alps on July 01, 2013, 08:24:38 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on June 28, 2013, 02:41:37 PM
Let's not forget: :bigass:
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Reminds me of DE/MD 54. In addition to the state highway meandering over the line several times, there are other pieces of road (like Line Church Rd.) that follow the border, and aren't straight lines themselves. At the eastern end of the border, Williamsville Rd. in DE becomes Delaware Rd. in MD, serving a development with no connection to the rest of the state, then becomes Williamsville Rd. once more in DE.
Not that far away (but on the other side of the state, about 35 miles away (hey, it's a small state with an odd shape)), there's another road that hugs a Maryland state boundary.
That would be Swan Gut Road (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.0132419,-75.3986821/36254+Swan+Gut+Road,+Stockton,+VA+21864/@38.0111325,-75.4350646,14z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b96bf50827dc59:0x5d89b7577a9033cb!2m2!1d-75.4357406!2d38.0103488), most of which is also VA-679, but according to the VDOT county atlas maps that Mapmikey recently shared, is on the state line (Worcester County, Maryland to the north, Accomack County, Virginia to the south).
Not clear if Maryland (or Worcester County in particular) helps to fund any of the maintenance cost for this road.
VDOT's traffic logs imply that all of SR 679 is maintained by VDOT and not by any other jurisdiction. That road intersects MD 12 west of Greenbackville, and it's the only case I'm aware of where VDOT signs another state's route (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.0108801,-75.4288666,3a,27.7y,91.81h,79.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-rWrMe7tYc30HPuTf6MZvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) inside one of its small white rectangles.
There's also an intersection (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.0137186,-75.3941686,3a,59.7y,102.82h,75.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sP0tq1jVJQBSJkNxK5ThNQw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DP0tq1jVJQBSJkNxK5ThNQw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D49.56255%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656) in Greenbackville itself that is on the state line; SR 3001 Ellis Street meets SR 3002 Stockton Avenue (which becomes Greenbackville Road at this intersection).
South Dakota 20 begins as an unpaved road along the Montana line - to the right is SD and to the left is MT:
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Unsigned Oregon 454 parallels the Idaho line for about a mile - the paved portion of State Line Road is maintained by ODOT.
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Then there's always Alberta/Saskatchewan 17
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And then Boundary Rd/0 Ave along the WA/BC border - here just east of Lynden (and now reconstructed, apparently).
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There is a county maintained Road just north of Bishop California that straddles Inyo and Mono counties. It's simply called Boundary Road.
If I drive from my house to Denver on I-25, there are three exits marked "County Line Road". (Though not all of them necessarily run directly on the county line). There is Exit 116 at the Pueblo-El Paso County Line, Exit 163 (El Paso-Douglas) and Exit 195 (Douglas-Arapahoe).
DE-MD 54 along the south border of DE and the Central NE Eastern Shore of MD border.
State Line Avenue in KC Metro. It is in various segments, but most notable is on I-435.
State Line Avenue in Texarkana stands out along US 71 with Miller County, AR showing off its liquor stores to dry Baker County, TX right across the street.
County Line Road between Hillsborough and Polk Counties in Florida.
Man too many as I am sure it could take over 100 pages to list every one of em!
There are several roads in McDowell County, West Virginia that are either on the Virginia state line or bounce back and forth. Part of WV/VA 83 is directly on the line and is maintained by Virginia. WV 161 is immediately adjacent to Horsepen Creek, the state line, for a number of miles, and is maintained by WV even when it briefly crosses into Virginia at Bishop. The states seem to have divided county/secondary route mileage so they're roughly even.
There are also some US Forest Service-maintained forest roads along the Virginia/West Virginia state line in Pocahontas and Pendleton counties.
The Blue Ridge Parkway weaves back and forth across county lines pretty closely.
The State Line Road at the IL/IN border is in the south suburbs of Chicago. What I find interesting is the traffic lights.
Starting from the north:
State St.: Completely IN setup. Yellow paint, a doghouse p/p, no backplates or stop bar lights.
Sibley Blvd.: Completely IL setup. Black paint, inline five section p/p, with backplates on mast arm signals and the existence of stop bar signals.
Memorial/Rimbach: Completely IN. Diagonal mast arms with far left freestanders on State Line.
River Oaks/165th St.: Combination. The west side has a classic IL truss and full visors. The IN side had a mast arm bar with the lights hanging from it and half visors. It appears that replaced lights have all taken the IL style on either side.
Quote from: Rothman on December 07, 2016, 11:54:14 PM
The Blue Ridge Parkway weaves back and forth across county lines pretty closely.
I guess that makes good sense, since it and the county lines both have the same m.o.: to follow the ridgelines.
In the Twin Cities area, there is a single north-south street that forms the border between Ramsey (on the west) and Washington Counties. Outside of a couple of jogs at an interchange and going around a lake, the road pretty much straddles the county line. The road is about 11 miles long, and some of it is still a state highway (MN-120). The rest is divided between the two counties, which from the MnDOT county map series it appears have divided the segments between the counties into approximately equal portions. I don't know whether the routes are marked in these segments; both counties are pretty good about signing their county roads. The name also differs depending on what side of the road you're on; on the west, most of it is Century Avenue (so named because at one time it was part of MN-100). The east side is Geneva Avenue, which fits into Washington County's alphabetical street name system.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on December 08, 2016, 06:10:33 PM
In the Twin Cities area, there is a single north-south street that forms the border between Ramsey (on the west) and Washington Counties. Outside of a couple of jogs at an interchange and going around a lake, the road pretty much straddles the county line. The road is about 11 miles long, and some of it is still a state highway (MN-120). The rest is divided between the two counties, which from the MnDOT county map series it appears have divided the segments between the counties into approximately equal portions. I don't know whether the routes are marked in these segments; both counties are pretty good about signing their county roads. The name also differs depending on what side of the road you're on; on the west, most of it is Century Avenue (so named because at one time it was part of MN-100). The east side is Geneva Avenue, which fits into Washington County's alphabetical street name system.
Of course, how could I forget this one? I even have a picture: south of I-94, old MN-120 is now CR-25/72:
(https://i.imgur.com/EATDpAE.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/EATDpAE.jpg)
Quote from: Darkchylde on June 27, 2013, 04:08:23 PM
So living where I am now, my apartment is in Missouri, but only about three blocks away from Kansas. Right on the state line in this area (except for a two block deviation due to a waterway,) there is State Line Road, which sits right on the state line between Missouri and Kansas. It's aptly named - literally, one can walk from one state to the other by crossing the road.
This has led me to ask, are there any other prominent roads such as State Line? I know there's another such road in Texarkana, but are there any others y'all can think of?
It's not that prominent or that long (a couple hundred meters) but there is a State Line Ave between South Lake Tahoe, California and Stateline(which may have been renamed "Lake Tahoe"), NV
There is also a road near the border between Nevada and California near Primm that is called "State Line Rd", but it may not exactly follow the border.
The Snohomish-King county line runs along N 205th Street/244th St SW, which includes a segment of WA-104: https://goo.gl/maps/VQGEL7uzaMx
There's one on the Montgomery-Bucks County line in Pennsylvania as well.
Quote from: corco on December 03, 2016, 07:08:31 PM
South Dakota 20 begins as an unpaved road along the Montana line - to the right is SD and to the left is MT:
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That's one segment of 100th Avenue (along the SD-MT/WY border). 100th Street is the SD/ND border (where there's actually roads). I think the SD/NE border West River is 304th Street.
Because of our statewide grid, there really aren't that many "State Line" or "County Line" roads (the Meade/Pennington county boundary is 225th Street). In Sioux Falls, the Minnehaha/Lincoln border is 57th Street.
I found a state line rd near Bloomburg, Texas. It straddles the Arkansas-Texas State Line as Miller (Ark) 155 and Cass (Texas) 4924.
There's an advance notification for Cass 4924 heading WB on TX FM 249, PLUS a Miller 155 sign at the state line. The road has both designations posted, as well.
There's one about 10 minutes south, PA 163.
Technically, half of it is in Maryland, but it seems Maryland doesn't recognize the route. The SB exit ramp and NB entrance ramp is in PA. The NB exit and SB entrance is MD. It's about 100 feet north of the Mason Dixon Line, but if you were determined you could get two tape measures and extend it into MD.
Not sure if anyone has said, but Van-Kal Rd. separates Van Buren County from Kalamazoo County in Southwest Michigan.
Just today I was driving on "Line Road", whose name refers to the Mason-Dixon Line, but isn't situated right on the line - it's got a small segment in Maryland, with the rest of the road being in Peach Bottom Township, York County, Pennsylvania.
While not a state or county line, Halfway Road west of Norwalk, Ohio is halfway between the Indiana and Pennsylvania state lines (approximately 111 miles).
Map: https://goo.gl/maps/RUXjUh1sjj12
Wyandotte County, KS has their numbered streets run N/S, while the rest of the KC metro has their numbered streets run E/W, and these numbering systems clash at the Johnson County line. The street that runs along the line is County Line Road on the Wyandotte side and 47th Street on the Johnson side. This makes for a confusing intersection when it runs into WY's 47th Street.
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47th St runs north from here, Antioch Rd runs south, and County Line Rd/47th St runs E/W. To add to the confusion, the Merriam/Overland Park city line is along Antioch. Merriam has their blue street signs, OP has big green signs, and KCK has small green signs.
Looks like PA 851 runs the PA/MD border for a short length east of Fawn Grove. Where PA 851 turns north at Constitution Road, GMaps has the continuation signed as MD 624. However, I don't recall seeing MD 624 signage there.
Quote from: Bitmapped on December 06, 2016, 08:17:13 PM
There are also some US Forest Service-maintained forest roads along the Virginia/West Virginia state line in Pocahontas and Pendleton counties.
There is one that bounces back and forth across the line between Highland County, Virginia and Pocahontas County, West Virginia (on the West Virginia side, much of the land is within the Monongahela National Forest).
That would be unpaved VA-601 (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.4580026,-79.68476/38.4412913,-79.6896113/@38.449701,-79.6956274,2041m/data=!3m1!1e3), which runs south off of U.S. 250 east of the state line. It is the
only public road I have ever seen in the Commonwealth which has a sign stating that it is not plowed during the winter season (it appears to serve three homes, two in Virginia, one in West Virginia). It goes into West Virginia at least once (on the West Virginia side it is (in theory) maintained by the Forest Service), but appears to be maintained by VDOT, at least up to the point where VDOT maintenance ends in front of a house apparently on the West Virginia side of the line and a trailer on the Virginia side (and there's a locked gate, but the road appears to continue south as FR-55).
We have quite a few county line roads in the Bellevue, Ohio area:
- On the Huron/Sandusky county line is Northwest/Southwest Street within the city of Bellevue
- On the Erie/Sandusky county line is Northwest Rd, which is the continuance of Northwest St north of Bellevue
- On the Huron/Seneca county line is OH 269, which is the continuance of Southwest St south of Bellevue
- On the Sandusky/Seneca county line is the only one that the locals actually call "County Line Rd." It is signed as CR 113 on the Sandusky County side (since it was once part of OH 113) and CR 62 on the Seneca County side, and it dead ends on OH 269 at a tri-county point on the south edge of Bellevue
- On the Erie/Huron county line there is not an east/west road starting at the tri-county point of the north edge of Bellevue, but just a few miles to the east of town there is a section of OH 113 that runs on that county line for few miles.
The City of Bellevue itself sits almost evenly half and half in Huron and Sandusky Counties, with a small portion that extends into Erie County and two short stretches where the city limits butt right up against but not into Seneca County. The Bellevue school district, zip code, phone exchange and fire distrct all extend well into all 4 counties.
Quote from: Buck87 on March 05, 2017, 05:10:09 PM
On the Sandusky/Seneca county line is the only one that the locals actually call "County Line Rd." It is signed as CR 113 on the Sandusky County side (since it was once part of OH 113) and CR 62 on the Seneca County side, and it dead ends on OH 269 at a tri-county point on the south edge of Bellevue
And the railroad calls it (or, at least, the spot where it crosses the tracks just west of 269) Kenny Rd. I have no idea where that name comes from.
Quote from: vtk on March 06, 2017, 06:35:04 PM
Quote from: Buck87 on March 05, 2017, 05:10:09 PM
On the Sandusky/Seneca county line is the only one that the locals actually call "County Line Rd." It is signed as CR 113 on the Sandusky County side (since it was once part of OH 113) and CR 62 on the Seneca County side, and it dead ends on OH 269 at a tri-county point on the south edge of Bellevue
And the railroad calls it (or, at least, the spot where it crosses the tracks just west of 269) Kenny Rd. I have no idea where that name comes from.
No idea where that comes from either...and I think it's a strange choice for a name considering there's a Kinney Street nearby that crosses the Fostoria line, which certainly lead to confusion the first time I heard County Line Rd called "Kenny Rd." Not sure what the railroad calls Kinney St, though that entire road/street has an interesting route and naming setup, being called Kinney St at one end, Slaughterhouse Rd at the other end, with the little part in between that turns several times having a different township road number for each section.
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Quote from: Bitmapped on December 06, 2016, 08:17:13 PM
There are also some US Forest Service-maintained forest roads along the Virginia/West Virginia state line in Pocahontas and Pendleton counties.
There is one that bounces back and forth across the line between Highland County, Virginia and Pocahontas County, West Virginia (on the West Virginia side, much of the land is within the Monongahela National Forest).
That would be unpaved VA-601 (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.4580026,-79.68476/38.4412913,-79.6896113/@38.449701,-79.6956274,2041m/data=!3m1!1e3), which runs south off of U.S. 250 east of the state line. It is the only public road I have ever seen in the Commonwealth which has a sign stating that it is not plowed during the winter season (it appears to serve three homes, two in Virginia, one in West Virginia). It goes into West Virginia at least once (on the West Virginia side it is (in theory) maintained by the Forest Service), but appears to be maintained by VDOT, at least up to the point where VDOT maintenance ends in front of a house apparently on the West Virginia side of the line and a trailer on the Virginia side (and there's a locked gate, but the road appears to continue south as FR-55).
There's a similar situation with another road (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1347099,-77.8276093,2614m/data=!3m1!1e3) (coincidentally enough, another SR 601) in Loudoun County. The route passes through a sliver of West Virginia, then is generally along the state line until it ends.
Quote from: empirestate on November 15, 2016, 05:28:54 PM
Could it be that it leads to a locality named State Line?
Also, not to hijack but I just thought of something else: any roads that follow a certain boundary but are named for a lower-order boundary instead? For example, a road along a county line called Town Line Road, or along a state line called County Line Road?
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City [Line] Avenue is between Philadelphia and Montgomery counties, so it is a county line, but Philadelphia the city is coterminous with Philadelphia County, so I suppose it's not a great example.
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on March 07, 2017, 12:58:36 PM
There's a similar situation with another road (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1347099,-77.8276093,2614m/data=!3m1!1e3) (coincidentally enough, another SR 601) in Loudoun County. The route passes through a sliver of West Virginia, then is generally along the state line until it ends.
Yes, I am familiar with that one too. Years ago, there was an official WVDOH sign at the state line with a county route number (Google Maps says it is CR 35) and the name of the road (Raven Rocks Road), but there is no trace left of the sign now, and given that the road is only in West Virginia for a few feet, it does not seem worth replacing. Apparently Loudoun County, Va. responds to all emergencies here, even on the West Virginia side of the road, including calls for police service, since it could be a considerable wait for a Jefferson County, W.Va. deputy or West Virginia trooper to get there. But children living on property in West Virginia are bused to school in Jefferson County proper, a one-way trip of over 18 miles to the nearest elementary school.
Both of the Route 601s have this in common - great views looking east, though the view from the Highland County version is much more commanding because of the higher elevation - around 4,000 feet AMSL - in Highland County compared to 1,400 feet AMSL in Loudoun County.