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Title: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: The Nature Boy on September 01, 2015, 10:05:23 PM
I'm going to see the ol' girlfriend down in DC. Anybody have any advice for making this trip in a reasonable time frame? I plan to leave after work Friday at 5. My usual route is:

- I-95 to Massachusetts
- I-290 to the Mass Pike
- Mass Pike to I-84
- I-84 to I-91
- I-91 to I-95
- I-95 to the NJ Turnpike
- NJ Turnpike to I-295 at the Delaware Memorial Bridge
- Back to I-95 to DC

I have a feeling that that may get a big congested.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: 1995hoo on September 01, 2015, 10:32:47 PM
In Connecticut I'm partial to the Wilbur Cross/Merritt Parkway combination instead of I-95. Nicer drive and there aren't supposed to be trucks (though I've encountered them anyway), though leaving Maine at 5:00 PM you wouldn't get the scenic aspect of going that way. I don't know whether deer would be a worry on there at night.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: The Nature Boy on September 01, 2015, 10:43:23 PM
In Connecticut I'm partial to the Wilbur Cross/Merritt Parkway combination instead of I-95. Nicer drive and there aren't supposed to be trucks (though I've encountered them anyway), though leaving Maine at 5:00 PM you wouldn't get the scenic aspect of going that way. I don't know whether deer would be a worry on there at night.

Yeah, if I had vacation days to spare, I would take Friday off and try to enjoy the scenery on the way down. I really enjoy the drive through CT on the Parkways (I-95, not so much).

The worst part about living north of the BosWash corridor and having friends in the DC area is that I get to endure the entire corridor when I visit.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: TravelingBethelite on September 01, 2015, 10:47:26 PM
In Connecticut I'm partial to the Wilbur Cross/Merritt Parkway combination instead of I-95. Nicer drive and there aren't supposed to be trucks (though I've encountered them anyway), though leaving Maine at 5:00 PM you wouldn't get the scenic aspect of going that way. I don't know whether deer would be a worry on there at night.
They are quite common on the MP/Wilbur Cross south of I-91, especially between 11 pm and 4 am, as there is not much traffic going either way at that time that's not on I-95. Many are driving it for the scenery during the day,  :rolleyes: as you can't exactly see it at night. I rememeber all this so well (the deer part) because once, me and my dad were bound for friends in Glastonbury via U.S. 5, and narrowly avoided an accident with another car when we swerved to avoid a stag that hopped out onto the roadway.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: davewiecking on September 02, 2015, 12:03:00 AM
Many folks heading from DC to NE swear by I's 83, 81, 84. I'm not necessarily one of them, but it's worth considering, especially if everyone else is trying to get somewhere on the same day.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: Rothman on September 02, 2015, 06:58:07 AM
Having lived in DC and having traveled to western MA from there quite often, all I know is that although I-83 to I-81 to I-84 may be less congested (well...I-81 = TRUCKS!), that route did take me significantly longer if there were no incidents along I-95 and the NJTP or whatnot.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: hbelkins on September 02, 2015, 05:06:18 PM
Any benefits in using the Tappan Zee vs. the Cross-Bronx and GW Bridge?
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: Rothman on September 02, 2015, 06:59:08 PM
That's when traffic reports come in handy, but I've found the Cross Bronx to be quicker if there are no incidents.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: noelbotevera on September 02, 2015, 07:07:04 PM
I've done my Washington DC - Chambersburg fix a good amount of times. I'd say instead go to BWI to take the shuttle to Greenbelt, and take the metro. If you wanna do it with roads, I find using I-95, I-695 to I-70 and I-270 is fine, but I-270 can be clogged south of Exit 22. You can hit the metro at Shady Grove, and that's my family does. Do note that the route I've noted adds more time and mileage, but it's almost equivalent to the traffic on I-95.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: The Nature Boy on September 02, 2015, 09:28:01 PM
I've done my Washington DC - Chambersburg fix a good amount of times. I'd say instead go to BWI to take the shuttle to Greenbelt, and take the metro. If you wanna do it with roads, I find using I-95, I-695 to I-70 and I-270 is fine, but I-270 can be clogged south of Exit 22. You can hit the metro at Shady Grove, and that's my family does. Do note that the route I've noted adds more time and mileage, but it's almost equivalent to the traffic on I-95.

Leaving my car at BWI won't work. I'm actually going to Alexandria so that would a hell of a ride. Plus she has free parking so I would be losing money if I pay for BWI parking.

The gamble with I-95 is that it is much faster if there's little traffic and no accidents. If you get unlucky, you're in for a long wait. That's why I'm unsure of what to do. I've never done the drive on a holiday weekend.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: 1995hoo on September 03, 2015, 07:17:37 AM
You didn't say when you're driving home, but if it's Sunday or Monday, note the Nationals have home games both afternoons (1:30 Sunday, 1:00 Monday) that will affect the traffic if you decide to go across the District instead of around via the Beltway.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: Pete from Boston on September 03, 2015, 07:23:40 AM
84-81-83 is longer, but much cheaper, and less risky. 

Regarding the Tappan Zee, there is less potential mayhem particularly going northbound than at the GW.  But peak/holiday times on it, too, can involve significant volume delays.

Since you're leaving Maine (not sure how far up) at 5, you'll miss most of the peak travel traffic.

Where you'll need to really watch your ass is on the way back.  I feel like people stagger holiday weekend departures, but all return in a shorter period of time, causing heavier congestion. I'd get an early Monday morning start if I were you.

I could not handle a distance relationship of this kind again.  Good for you for putting the effort in.  Keep close tabs on your driving costs, BTW—shuttle flights are cheap.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: PHLBOS on September 03, 2015, 03:31:54 PM
You're actually heading the opposite direction of my Labor Day weekend travels (Philly area to Boston area).

Quote from: Your original Route
- I-95 to Massachusetts
- I-290 to the Mass Pike
- Mass Pike to I-84
- I-84 to I-91
- I-91 to I-95
- I-95 to the NJ Turnpike
- NJ Turnpike to I-295 at the Delaware Memorial Bridge
- Back to I-95 to DC

My suggested route (used such for the last 25 years, at least between I-90/Mass Pike and the NJ Turnpike):

- I-95 to Massachusetts (I-495) clarification
- I-495 to I-290 clarification
- I-290 to the Mass Pike
- Mass Pike to I-84
- I-84 to I-91 I-684
- I-684 to I-287
- I-287 to GSP
- GSP to I-95/NJ Turnpike

- NJ Turnpike to I-295 at the Delaware Memorial Bridge
- Back to I-95 to DC

IMHO, unless one is planning to make a stop at NYC; one's better off avoiding it.  Plus the toll on the Tappan Zee (for the return trip) is less than half of that of the GW.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 03, 2015, 03:44:18 PM
The thing about Labor Day:  Kids are just back in school.  They've already had the summer to do everything they wanted to do.  Labor Day traffic I don't think is nearly as bad as it was in years past.  Of course with any 3 Day weekend there will be traffic on the road, but based on your travel times Friday evening, rush hour traffic is going to be lighter (which is important near Boston), and after that you'll encounter some but not an overwhelming amount of traffic.

NJDOT doesn't do any major construction work that requires lane closures during holiday weekends, and hopefully other states don't either.  And as far as accidents go - they could crop up on any route, so you just hope they don't on the route you take!  Unless you wanted to detour around NYC by using what PHLBOS suggested, you're going to be going thru the heart of the Northeast corridor from NYC into DC between approximately 11pm & 4am.  I think you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: froggie on September 03, 2015, 03:56:01 PM
Labor Day is also late this year, which will have some impact as well.

Quote from: PHLBOS
- I-684 to I-287

Have you ever used the Saw Mill to "cut the corner"?  I've found it to be somewhat shorter/faster than taking 684 all the way down.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: Rothman on September 03, 2015, 04:45:59 PM
Took the Merritt/Wilbur Cross to the Hutch to Cross County to Saw Mill to get to the City from MA once or twice.  I concur that the Saw Mill's a good route.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: The Nature Boy on September 03, 2015, 06:33:00 PM
You're actually heading the opposite direction of my Labor Day weekend travels (Philly area to Boston area).

Quote from: Your original Route
- I-95 to Massachusetts
- I-290 to the Mass Pike
- Mass Pike to I-84
- I-84 to I-91
- I-91 to I-95
- I-95 to the NJ Turnpike
- NJ Turnpike to I-295 at the Delaware Memorial Bridge
- Back to I-95 to DC

My suggested route (used such for the last 25 years, at least between I-90/Mass Pike and the NJ Turnpike):

- I-95 to Massachusetts (I-495) clarification
- I-495 to I-290 clarification
- I-290 to the Mass Pike
- Mass Pike to I-84
- I-84 to I-91 I-684
- I-684 to I-287
- I-287 to GSP
- GSP to I-95/NJ Turnpike

- NJ Turnpike to I-295 at the Delaware Memorial Bridge
- Back to I-95 to DC

IMHO, unless one is planning to make a stop at NYC; one's better off avoiding it.  Plus the toll on the Tappan Zee (for the return trip) is less than half of that of the GW.

The girlfriend suggested avoiding the GW as well so I'll likely do that. I do wish that there was a time efficient way to avoid the NJ Turnpike, mostly for toll reasons. The 83, 81, 84 route is fine and I've done it multiple times but when you're leaving at 5 PM, you don't want to lengthen the trip too much. On the way, I'll likely do it though.

Thanks for the tips everyone.

(For some reason, I forgot the 495-290 transition.)
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: 1995hoo on September 03, 2015, 08:38:48 PM
If you want to avoid the Turnpike, another possibility is I-78. If you go over the Tappan Zee, you can take either the Garden State Parkway or I-287 south to I-78. Then you have some choices once you're in Pennsylvania. At night, the traffic would be light enough to allow you to pick up US-222 near Allentown and take that past Reading to Lancaster, then US-30 to York and onto I-83. Or you could use I-78 west to I-81 near Harrisburg and pick up I-83 there. (Tip for a shortcut in York if you use the US highways option: When the freeway ends at the light at North Hills Road, turn left. Do not take the first ramp to I-83 since it goes north; instead, turn right at the next light after that ramp, go under the highway, then take the loop-around ramp on the right. This route saves a couple of miles over taking Route 30 all the way to I-83; if you look at a map, you'll see why. It also eliminates the need to drive on Arsenal Road....but if you're a Gunners fan you might like that.)

Another possibility, one I prefer from Harrisburg, is US-15 south to Frederick, then I-270 to the Beltway. I just like Route 15 a lot more than I-83. Easier drive and less traffic and avoids Baltimore. I do worry about deer when I'm on there late at night even though I've never seen one. A bigger issue right now is that there may be roadwork near Gettysburg. When we went up to the battlefield two weeks ago, the southbound side was down to one lane in the Gettysburg area for resurfacing. I have no idea whether the work is done yet. It was moving pretty well on a Sunday afternoon, though.

Check the distance on these options versus I-84 to Scranton. It might be shorter to use I-78.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: vdeane on September 03, 2015, 10:02:19 PM
The thing about Labor Day:  Kids are just back in school.  They've already had the summer to do everything they wanted to do.  Labor Day traffic I don't think is nearly as bad as it was in years past.  Of course with any 3 Day weekend there will be traffic on the road, but based on your travel times Friday evening, rush hour traffic is going to be lighter (which is important near Boston), and after that you'll encounter some but not an overwhelming amount of traffic.

NJDOT doesn't do any major construction work that requires lane closures during holiday weekends, and hopefully other states don't either.  And as far as accidents go - they could crop up on any route, so you just hope they don't on the route you take!  Unless you wanted to detour around NYC by using what PHLBOS suggested, you're going to be going thru the heart of the Northeast corridor from NYC into DC between approximately 11pm & 4am.  I think you'll be fine.
The past couple years, I've usually found that Labor Day is the busiest holiday weekend, though this year is odd with all the schools starting early (why, I have no idea; the last time Labor Day was this late, they didn't need to start early...).  Memorial Day can't really compare because it's surrounded by school days on all sides and the 4th of July can't compare because there are no school days near it, allowing for trips to be spread out.  Labor Day, on the other hand, allows people to extend the weekend in the week before (usually) but forces everyone home immediately.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: Rothman on September 03, 2015, 10:03:44 PM
Vdeane:  Some school districts haven't started yet (e.g., I know Bethlehem hasn't and I think I heard Ravena hasn't, either). :D
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: vdeane on September 03, 2015, 10:37:01 PM
Vdeane:  Some school districts haven't started yet (e.g., I know Bethlehem hasn't and I think I heard Ravena hasn't, either). :D
I have no idea what schedule the Albany districts are on.  My Mom has told me that all the Rochester schools are starting a week early this year.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: Rothman on September 03, 2015, 11:01:15 PM
That would have been the smart thing to do, but some school districts decided to start after Labor Day out of tradition, I suppose.  They'll be in school up until the very end of June.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: 1995hoo on September 04, 2015, 07:36:38 AM
Vdeane:  Some school districts haven't started yet (e.g., I know Bethlehem hasn't and I think I heard Ravena hasn't, either). :D

It shouldn't affect the OP, but in Virginia almost none have. State law says they can't start until after Labor Day unless they get a waiver from the Commonwealth, and very few request one. Not surprisingly, the tourist industry was a major lobby behind the law, which is commonly known as the "Kings Dominion Law."

It does mean there's a lot of traffic returning to the DC area from elsewhere this weekend due to people who take vacations at the end of August when schools in other states have already opened.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 04, 2015, 08:25:38 AM
The thing about Labor Day:  Kids are just back in school.  They've already had the summer to do everything they wanted to do.  Labor Day traffic I don't think is nearly as bad as it was in years past.  Of course with any 3 Day weekend there will be traffic on the road, but based on your travel times Friday evening, rush hour traffic is going to be lighter (which is important near Boston), and after that you'll encounter some but not an overwhelming amount of traffic.

NJDOT doesn't do any major construction work that requires lane closures during holiday weekends, and hopefully other states don't either.  And as far as accidents go - they could crop up on any route, so you just hope they don't on the route you take!  Unless you wanted to detour around NYC by using what PHLBOS suggested, you're going to be going thru the heart of the Northeast corridor from NYC into DC between approximately 11pm & 4am.  I think you'll be fine.
The past couple years, I've usually found that Labor Day is the busiest holiday weekend, though this year is odd with all the schools starting early (why, I have no idea; the last time Labor Day was this late, they didn't need to start early...). 

Because more and more schools are hitting the panic button, and if that forecast says there's a chance of snow, schools are closed. (UGH)  Thus, open the schools earlier to build in more time in June to fit in those extra days.

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Memorial Day can't really compare because it's surrounded by school days on all sides and the 4th of July can't compare because there are no school days near it, allowing for trips to be spread out.  Labor Day, on the other hand, allows people to extend the weekend in the week before (usually) but forces everyone home immediately.

It definitely depends on when schools open.   friend in Ohio sent his kids to school back around mid-August.  And before anyone claims it's due to snow, another friend's kids started school in Florida a day later.  So for many families, Labor Day is just a 3 day weekend, and the kids are already out of school by Memorial Day weekend.

In NJ, which historically started school after Labor Day, there has been quite a number of schools that opened up this past week prior to Labor Day.  There was some talk years ago about forcing schools - and even colleges & universities - to start after Labor Day to keep kids working in their summer jobs.  Thankfully enough people yelled asking what was more important: A college education or running the Merry-Go-Round at Morey's Piers, and the argument dropped.

There is a slight issue every year with some jobs, such as lifeguards, because kids do go back to school or take a few weeks off before re-starting school.  But NJ can't control the entire nation in deciding when school should begin.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: 1995hoo on September 04, 2015, 02:09:35 PM
Another issue is the proliferation of those standardized tests, which I'm told are often given in May. Starting in August allows more time prior to the tests and cuts down on wasted weeks after the tests are over.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: Pete from Boston on September 04, 2015, 07:50:03 PM

The thing about Labor Day:  Kids are just back in school.  They've already had the summer to do everything they wanted to do.  Labor Day traffic I don't think is nearly as bad as it was in years past.  Of course with any 3 Day weekend there will be traffic on the road, but based on your travel times Friday evening, rush hour traffic is going to be lighter (which is important near Boston), and after that you'll encounter some but not an overwhelming amount of traffic.

NJDOT doesn't do any major construction work that requires lane closures during holiday weekends, and hopefully other states don't either.  And as far as accidents go - they could crop up on any route, so you just hope they don't on the route you take!  Unless you wanted to detour around NYC by using what PHLBOS suggested, you're going to be going thru the heart of the Northeast corridor from NYC into DC between approximately 11pm & 4am.  I think you'll be fine.
The past couple years, I've usually found that Labor Day is the busiest holiday weekend, though this year is odd with all the schools starting early (why, I have no idea; the last time Labor Day was this late, they didn't need to start early...). 

Because more and more schools are hitting the panic button, and if that forecast says there's a chance of snow, schools are closed. (UGH)  Thus, open the schools earlier to build in more time in June to fit in those extra days.

They "pushed the panic button" for a lousy foot and a half or more at least a couple of days each week for about five weeks here this year.  Absolutely wrecked school calendars.  I would not expect school administrators to forget that predicament quickly

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There is a slight issue every year with some jobs, such as lifeguards, because kids do go back to school or take a few weeks off before re-starting school.  But NJ can't control the entire nation in deciding when school should begin.

Public pools here seem to have mostly closed a week ago.  Sucks to be an adult in hot weather when you count on kids to keep you swimming.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: The Nature Boy on September 05, 2015, 11:45:12 AM
I made the drive last night. It wasn't terrible.

I did took the Parkways and then the Tappan Zee, otherwise I didn't change from the usual route.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: PHLBOS on September 08, 2015, 09:35:55 AM
Labor Day is also late this year, which will have some impact as well.

Quote from: PHLBOS
- I-684 to I-287

Have you ever used the Saw Mill to "cut the corner"?  I've found it to be somewhat shorter/faster than taking 684 all the way down.
I have used it a few times myself when I found out (in advance) that my normal route was jammed (due to an accident or construction along I-287/CWE).  While it is shorter in distance; the fact that it has a lower posted speed limit and the somewhat tighter/narrower lanes (the northernmost stretch only has a guide-guardrail strip median with little or no give and no side shoulders) can make an already long-drive a bit more stressful.   In contrast, based on 25 years of personal experience on these trips, I-684 is comparatively wide-open.

Long story short: 6 in one hand/half-dozen on the other.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 08, 2015, 10:09:21 AM
They "pushed the panic button" for a lousy foot and a half or more at least a couple of days each week for about five weeks here this year.  Absolutely wrecked school calendars.  I would not expect school administrators to forget that predicament quickly

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Public pools here seem to have mostly closed a week ago.  Sucks to be an adult in hot weather when you count on kids to keep you swimming.

I think I detect a hint of sarcasm here.

At any rate, from DC to NYC, numerous schools closed for the blizzard-that-still-hasn't-arrived last year.  Many of the kids could be found in malls, not snowed in and on sleds.  And there's a whole host of minor snow (and other weather) events that some schools will close for.

And many public pools south of New England remain open thru Labor Day weekend.

Like I said, Jersey can't control the rest of the country in how they operate.  But the Boston area isn't representative of the rest of the country either.

I made the drive last night. It wasn't terrible.

Good to hear.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: The Nature Boy on September 08, 2015, 09:14:10 PM
I'm sorry about my grammar in that last post, posting from the phone was not a good move. Anyway, I found traffic to be no different than most other weekends that I have traveled. I left at around 9 am on Monday morning and only hit a traffic jam on the Merritt at the I-91 interchange. I was surprised at how well traffic flowed throughout the drive. 

I would wade into the pool discussion but I don't think I've been in a public pool since I was a kid.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: 1995hoo on September 08, 2015, 10:11:22 PM
Our neighborhood has two pools. One closed for the season yesterday. The other remains open for the next two weekends (but not weekdays).

I never go to either one. You know that sign, "Welcome to our OOL! Notice there is no 'P' in it!"? Well, due to little kids whose parents don't teach/supervise them properly, our neighborhood definitely has a POOL, not an OOL.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: Pete from Boston on September 09, 2015, 08:36:47 AM

Our neighborhood has two pools. One closed for the season yesterday. The other remains open for the next two weekends (but not weekdays).

I never go to either one. You know that sign, "Welcome to our OOL! Notice there is no 'P' in it!"? Well, due to little kids whose parents don't teach/supervise them properly, our neighborhood definitely has a POOL, not an OOL.

We lied to a child we occasionally look over and said a boy was thrown out because the lifeguards saw the red dye that shows up when someone pees in the pool.

I think we mostly just eroded the child's trust in us.

In any case, there's so painfully much chlorine in public pools that I don't worry too much about it.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: vdeane on September 09, 2015, 12:55:43 PM
Back when I was growing up, schools didn't close unless the roads were physically impassible when the superintendent got up that morning.

I imagine that the reason why most pools close/reduce hours at this time of year is because recreational swimming is widely considered a children's activity.  For adults, it's generally an exercise/competitive activity for some reason.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 09, 2015, 01:35:03 PM
Back when I was growing up, schools didn't close unless the roads were physically impassible when the superintendent got up that morning.

I imagine that the reason why most pools close/reduce hours at this time of year is because recreational swimming is widely considered a children's activity.  For adults, it's generally an exercise/competitive activity for some reason.

Owning a pool, they are a pain to keep up after Labor Day.  Leaves are falling off trees, air temp is getting cooler, and thus water temp gets cooler.  Chemicals in a large pool are pricey when no one is using it.   I'm closing mine in less than 2 weeks, and I bet after today or tomorrow I won't be in it again, but will still have to test the water and maintain the chemicals, run the filter, etc.

For kids, they are also getting into fall activities & sports, and have less time devoted to pool activities.  Plus, they're probably tired of it.  I can hear it in my own neighborhood: Around Memorial Day, you can hear kids at other houses having a blast, jumping and splashing.  By late August, even though it's still 90 degrees, there isn't a peep coming from those other houses, except for outdoor radios.

While they're nice, pools are a pain.  Basically it's covered 8 months out of the year, and I have to tend to it multiple times a week, if not every day, when it is open.  Too much rain?  Gotta pump it out.  Too little rain?  Gotta add water.  This year it actually wasn't too bad - only once did I have to pump some water out from too much rain early in the summer, and I was able to get all the way until late-August before I had to add water again, even though it's been fairly dry in July & August.

I never go to either one. You know that sign, "Welcome to our OOL! Notice there is no 'P' in it!"? Well, due to little kids whose parents don't teach/supervise them properly, our neighborhood definitely has a POOL, not an OOL.

Something you notice in Vegas:  There's a lot of 20 & 30-something year olds in the pools.  They are in there all day, drinking their beers and margaritas.  Yet, no one ever exits the pool, all day long.  They might as well call them

All I can say is...don't drink the water!
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: PHLBOS on September 09, 2015, 04:11:38 PM
You know that sign, "Welcome to our OOL! Notice there is no 'P' in it!"? Well, due to little kids whose parents don't teach/supervise them properly, our neighborhood definitely has a POOL, not an OOL.
Imagine what somebody would say if the sign was missing the L instead of the P. :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: noelbotevera on September 09, 2015, 04:17:54 PM
You know that sign, "Welcome to our OOL! Notice there is no 'P' in it!"? Well, due to little kids whose parents don't teach/supervise them properly, our neighborhood definitely has a POOL, not an OOL.
Imagine what somebody would say if the sign was missing the L instead of the P. :evilgrin:
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Not sure if that's your intention.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: Brandon on September 11, 2015, 10:26:42 AM
You know that sign, "Welcome to our OOL! Notice there is no 'P' in it!"? Well, due to little kids whose parents don't teach/supervise them properly, our neighborhood definitely has a POOL, not an OOL.
Imagine what somebody would say if the sign was missing the L instead of the P. :evilgrin:

Obviously, pooing is pool.  :bigass:
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: roadman on September 11, 2015, 10:43:38 AM


While they're nice, pools are a pain.  Basically it's covered 8 months out of the year, and I have to tend to it multiple times a week, if not every day, when it is open.  Too much rain?  Gotta pump it out.  Too little rain?  Gotta add water.  This year it actually wasn't too bad - only once did I have to pump some water out from too much rain early in the summer, and I was able to get all the way until late-August before I had to add water again, even though it's been fairly dry in July & August.

Couldn't agree with you more.  Growing up, my parents had a pool.  As I got older, I became responsible for the daily and weekly maintenance.  In four letters - PITA!  As I tell people, the next time I have a house with a pool will be when I'm rich enough to pay somebody else to deal with the care and feeding of it.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 11, 2015, 10:48:19 AM


While they're nice, pools are a pain.  Basically it's covered 8 months out of the year, and I have to tend to it multiple times a week, if not every day, when it is open.  Too much rain?  Gotta pump it out.  Too little rain?  Gotta add water.  This year it actually wasn't too bad - only once did I have to pump some water out from too much rain early in the summer, and I was able to get all the way until late-August before I had to add water again, even though it's been fairly dry in July & August.

Couldn't agree with you more.  Growing up, my parents had a pool.  As I got older, I became responsible for the daily and weekly maintenance.  In four letters - PITA!  As I tell people, the next time I have a house with a pool will be when I'm rich enough to pay somebody else to deal with the care and feeding of it.

Oh, last night, we got railroaded with a rain storm.  Received about 6"...more than we did received all summer long.

I was outside, at midnight, in the rain, pumping water out of the pool.  It was within 1/2" of the top.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: Pete from Boston on September 11, 2015, 08:41:07 PM
I always figured they operated like a bathtub, spilling out through an overflow drain.
Title: Re: Maine to DC - Labor Day Weekend
Post by: jcn on September 12, 2016, 07:51:08 PM
Say if you make the same trip on Labor Day 2018 (or later), a new alternative route will be created with the fact that by that time you'll be able to exit the NJTP at exit 6 and just simply stay on I-95 south.  But, as soon as you reach Delaware, you should take the 495 bypass that goes around Wilmington.  That new route will be much more scenic in the fact that you get to pass right through Philly.  You should avoid that route during rush hour though as 95 in Philly can be a mess during that time, but if you plan on leaving at 5 pm like you did, you will reach exit 6 at around 11 pm, and I 95 in PA shouldn't be an issue at that time, and seeing Philly at night is especially beautiful.