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Title: Ontario - Hwy 4 reroute through London
Post by: cbeach40 on November 02, 2017, 11:16:52 AM
Highway 4 is being rerouted through London this fall
http://www.london.ca/residents/Roads-Transportation/traffic-management/Pages/Highway-4-Reroute.aspx (http://www.london.ca/residents/Roads-Transportation/traffic-management/Pages/Highway-4-Reroute.aspx)


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Link deleted as map posted on the City of London page above -CB
Title: Re: Ontario - Hwy 4 reroute through London
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 02, 2017, 09:55:03 PM
I'm honestly kind of surprised it wasn't instead downloaded onto the city of London's responsibility.
Title: Re: Ontario - Hwy 4 reroute through London
Post by: 7/8 on November 02, 2017, 10:22:57 PM
I'm honestly kind of surprised it wasn't instead downloaded onto the city of London's responsibility.

From the first link:

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Is the ownership of any road changing hands?

No, all sections of road from Highway 401 to the northern city limit will continue to be owned and maintained by the City of London. Street naming and addresses will be unchanged. Highway 401, Highway 402, and Highway 4 (Colonel Talbot Road) south of Highway 401 will continue to be owned and maintained by the provincial Ministry of Transportation. This is strictly an agreement regarding guide/wayfinding signage between the City and MTO.

In other words, Highway 4 within London city lands will continue to be maintained by the City. The signs are just for navigation.

Why can't they do this for Highway 9 to prevent the awkward gap it currently has?
Title: Re: Ontario - Hwy 4 reroute through London
Post by: rickmastfan67 on November 02, 2017, 11:13:44 PM
Highway 4 is being rerouted through London this fall
http://www.london.ca/residents/Roads-Transportation/traffic-management/Pages/Highway-4-Reroute.aspx (http://www.london.ca/residents/Roads-Transportation/traffic-management/Pages/Highway-4-Reroute.aspx)

Will {4} shields be added to the {401} to indicate the new multiplex?

Either way, I'll make the changes soon on TM. ;)  Glad I'll be able to merge the two files back into one again.
Title: Re: Ontario - Hwy 4 reroute through London
Post by: cbeach40 on November 03, 2017, 09:05:45 AM
I'm honestly kind of surprised it wasn't instead downloaded onto the city of London's responsibility.

London has always had signage agreements with MTO. Provincially owned highways or roads with Connecting Link agreements were always limited to the suburbs or were non-existent. This is the latest iteration of that.


Will {4} shields be added to the {401} to indicate the new multiplex?

Either way, I'll make the changes soon on TM. ;)  Glad I'll be able to merge the two files back into one again.

Indeed, it will be signed as Hwy 401/4 for about 3 km.

In other words, Highway 4 within London city lands will continue to be maintained by the City. The signs are just for navigation.

Why can't they do this for Highway 9 to prevent the awkward gap it currently has?

The very short answers are:
Title: Re: Ontario - Hwy 4 reroute through London
Post by: cbeach40 on December 11, 2017, 08:52:16 AM
Update - the change in Highway 4's mileage log, etc will be effective as of January 1, 2018.
Title: Re: Ontario - Hwy 4 reroute through London
Post by: rickmastfan67 on February 25, 2018, 07:28:10 AM
Just curious, but has the signage changeover happened yet?
Title: Re: Ontario - Hwy 4 reroute through London
Post by: cbeach40 on February 26, 2018, 08:36:01 AM
Just curious, but has the signage changeover happened yet?

No, crews from both the city and MTO have been tied up with winter maintenance a bit more than usual this year, so items such as this get pushed down the priority list.

The designation update was effective January 1, but thus far it's only on paper.