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Title: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: Captain Jack on August 10, 2018, 02:48:47 PM
What movies or TV shows have you been unable to fully enjoy because of road inaccuracies?

Recently, I was watching "Founder". It is a documentary on Ray Kroc and the McDonald brothers, focusing on the beginnings of McDonalds. Decent flick starring Michael Keaton as Kroc.

Early on in the film, Kroc was a struggling milk-shake mixer salesman in 1954. Kroc was bouncing around the St. Louis area getting doors slammed when his office notified him that a restaurant in San Bernadino had just ordered (8) of these mixers. Curious as to why they would need so many, Kroc decides to drive out there. As he is driving in Missouri in the film, the shields, using the proper cut-out ones for the period, show "US 44". Once in Arizona and California they properly use "US 66".

While I thought it was a decent documentary, it was hard to fully enjoy it when my mind kept wondering how they could have screwed up with the US 44 thing in Missouri, yet have it right for Arizona and California. Obsessions of a road geek.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: Captain Jack on August 10, 2018, 03:18:15 PM
Tried to delete this as I just saw the other thread. Apologies for the duplication on topics.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 10, 2018, 04:11:07 PM
The beginning of When Harry Met Sally, when Harry and Sally are shown driving from UChicago to New York by driving south on Lake Shore Drive from somewhere south of North Avenue.

As I mentioned before, at the beginning of National Lampoon’s Vacation, they’re shown driving from what’s likely the north suburbs of Chicago to LA by traveling on the ramp from the northbound Stevenson to southbound Lake Shore Drive.

The shot towards the end of Planes Trains and Automobiles, of the dairy truck approaching Chicago, I swear that’s a matte shot.
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Post by: Rothman on August 11, 2018, 12:03:19 AM
Totally noticed the bad signage in The Founder, too.
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Post by: txstateends on August 11, 2018, 01:30:44 AM
* Cannonball Run 2 had mountains on the TX/LA border.  Not little hills, but mountains.

* The only part of the movie Cedar Rapids that shows the correct city is when the insurance salesman is flying in for his convention, and the skyline appears below.  All the other exteriors are places in Michigan, where the movie was filmed >aargh<.

* A scene in an early season of "Dallas" shows a supposed FM road in TX (likely filmed in CA) with a definitely-painted FM shield in the scene.  Not quite authentic.

* In one of the "Dallas" reunion movies, a chase scene was supposed to be taking place on I-40 east of Amarillo.  The producers actually used a street in Irving for it, complete with not-so authentic "I-40" signs/poles.  In a different scene, there is a tour of a tank farm that is also supposed to be in Amarillo, but that was actually of a tank farm off of TX 183 in Irving.  Anyone familiar with either city could definitely tell the difference.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: GaryV on August 11, 2018, 07:13:09 AM
There was an old GPS commercial that showed a moose as they were passing an I-10 sign.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 11, 2018, 08:38:36 AM
* Cannonball Run 2 had mountains on the TX/LA border.  Not little hills, but mountains.
I remember a TV show from the early 2000s or so, starring Craig T. Nelson and set in DC, where you could see some very Southern Californian mountains in the background of a scene set in DC.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: Revive 755 on August 11, 2018, 10:19:38 AM
The early scenes in the 2009 Star Trek Movie where southern California is substituted for rural Iowa.  The lack of hills and amount of sand along the shoulders are too much (Streetview of a road similar to that in the movie) (https://goo.gl/maps/WiHCZ1hscFK2).  Should have been something similar to this (IA 22 east of Riverside), (https://goo.gl/maps/HntLVFstDPy) this (random rural road near Riverside) (https://goo.gl/maps/ULYqxfwtjxN2), or this (old US 218 near Riverside). (https://goo.gl/maps/CoxCuDCgsH62)
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: TheHighwayMan394 on August 11, 2018, 12:30:16 PM
The early scenes in the 2009 Star Trek Movie where southern California is substituted for rural Iowa.  The lack of hills and amount of sand along the shoulders are too much (Streetview of a road similar to that in the movie) (https://goo.gl/maps/WiHCZ1hscFK2).  Should have been something similar to this (IA 22 east of Riverside), (https://goo.gl/maps/HntLVFstDPy) this (random rural road near Riverside) (https://goo.gl/maps/ULYqxfwtjxN2), or this (old US 218 near Riverside). (https://goo.gl/maps/CoxCuDCgsH62)

Also when child Kirk joyrides his stepdad's car off a massive cliff into a deep canyon-like chasm - where the F is anything remotely like that in Iowa?
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 11, 2018, 12:36:34 PM
The early scenes in the 2009 Star Trek Movie where southern California is substituted for rural Iowa.  The lack of hills and amount of sand along the shoulders are too much (Streetview of a road similar to that in the movie) (https://goo.gl/maps/WiHCZ1hscFK2).  Should have been something similar to this (IA 22 east of Riverside), (https://goo.gl/maps/HntLVFstDPy) this (random rural road near Riverside) (https://goo.gl/maps/ULYqxfwtjxN2), or this (old US 218 near Riverside). (https://goo.gl/maps/CoxCuDCgsH62)

Also when child Kirk joyrides his stepdad's car off a massive cliff into a deep canyon-like chasm - where the F is anything remotely like that in Iowa?
An old quarry?
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: Max Rockatansky on August 11, 2018, 01:07:54 PM
The early scenes in the 2009 Star Trek Movie where southern California is substituted for rural Iowa.  The lack of hills and amount of sand along the shoulders are too much (Streetview of a road similar to that in the movie) (https://goo.gl/maps/WiHCZ1hscFK2).  Should have been something similar to this (IA 22 east of Riverside), (https://goo.gl/maps/HntLVFstDPy) this (random rural road near Riverside) (https://goo.gl/maps/ULYqxfwtjxN2), or this (old US 218 near Riverside). (https://goo.gl/maps/CoxCuDCgsH62)

Also when child Kirk joyrides his stepdad's car off a massive cliff into a deep canyon-like chasm - where the F is anything remotely like that in Iowa?
An old quarry?

When I saw it I thought that scene was clearly a futuristic abandoned quarry or mine.  Shame about the C2 Corvette though.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: jp the roadgeek on August 11, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
There's an episode of Family Guy where the Griffins are going to NYC, and when they're traveling through CT, it looks like they're driving on a 2 lane road through a forest.  From Quahoag (near Providence) to NYC, one would take I-95, and none of I-95 in CT looks like it goes through a forest or is 2 lanes.


In another episode where they're going to visit Cleveland down in VA, they get on the Turnpike at the beginning of the trip.  RI does not have any limited access turnpikes. 

Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: jon daly on August 11, 2018, 06:39:25 PM
Maybe Peter was trying to clinch RI-14 and CT-14.

I'll praise the show for one accuracy. There's an establishing shot of the Providence skyline, that matches a vista I see not for from my office.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: roadman65 on August 11, 2018, 07:03:37 PM
How about Maude?  Do you really need to take the George Washington Bridge to go from NYC to Tuckahoe, NY in Westchester County?  The GWB leaves the state as well as both places being on the same side of the bridge.

Then there is Smokey and the Bandit II.  It shows  during the truck verses cops showdown scene being in the western Texas desert!  Being the Bandit was driving from Miami to Dallas, there is no desert topography on the route you would be taking in the Lone Star State to accomplish it.

In Bosom Buddies (late 80's sitcom on ABC) you see Larry Appleton driving from Madison, WI to Chicago in the first season passing beneath the Welcome to Chicago sign leaving ORD along I-190 E Bound.  Even though I-90 goes by O' Hare, it does not at all place you under that sign en route as you would have to go inside the airport to come out to experience the view of that assembly.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: Gulol on August 11, 2018, 07:45:36 PM
Planes, Trains and Automobiles.  The train breaks down and they have to take a bus from Jefferson City, MO to St. Louis.  Why would the bus be crossing the Mississippi River from Illinois into St. Louis as shown?
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: Big John on August 11, 2018, 07:54:44 PM

In Bosom Buddies (late 80's sitcom on ABC) you see Larry Appleton driving from Madison, WI to Chicago in the first season passing beneath the Welcome to Chicago sign leaving ORD along I-190 E Bound.  Even though I-90 goes by O' Hare, it does not at all place you under that sign en route as you would have to go inside the airport to come out to experience the view of that assembly.
Perfect Strangers.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 11, 2018, 08:43:22 PM
Planes, Trains and Automobiles.  The train breaks down and they have to take a bus from Jefferson City, MO to St. Louis.  Why would the bus be crossing the Mississippi River from Illinois into St. Louis as shown?
It gets worse - they’re driving from St. Louis to Chicago and they get pulled over by the Wisconsin State Police.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 11, 2018, 08:44:28 PM

In Bosom Buddies (late 80's sitcom on ABC) you see Larry Appleton driving from Madison, WI to Chicago in the first season passing beneath the Welcome to Chicago sign leaving ORD along I-190 E Bound.  Even though I-90 goes by O' Hare, it does not at all place you under that sign en route as you would have to go inside the airport to come out to experience the view of that assembly.
Perfect Strangers.
I’ve been watching Perfect Strangers on Hulu and this one I don’t mind so much since I get to see that awesome vintage sign.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: SteveG1988 on August 11, 2018, 10:22:03 PM
Planes, Trains and Automobiles.  The train breaks down and they have to take a bus from Jefferson City, MO to St. Louis.  Why would the bus be crossing the Mississippi River from Illinois into St. Louis as shown?
It gets worse - they’re driving from St. Louis to Chicago and they get pulled over by the Wisconsin State Police.

With that movie...the company driver was just inept and went around on the I-255 bridge (what it is called today) in 1987. "it's an easier way to get downtown" Every company in that movie is inept in some way. Rental car company has a missing car....train breaks down...etc.

Them going to wisconsin... Del has a crappy sense of direction, and also wanted to hang out with Neil longer, so he took a roundabout route to get into Chicago, go up to what is today i-43 and come back down. I could see a deleted scene "Del...WHy THE HELL ARE WE IN WISCONSIN!?!?!"


Now realworld.... the 1st is that it is a good establishing shot of St Louis for people who have never been there, so i can use my suspension of disbelief to get around that one. And the 2nd..they probably had a Wisconsin state police costume in some closet they pulled out for the scene because they couldn't find the right one. It's like how in Animal house they use a Tennessee flag because they could not find a big enough Pennslyvania state flag, and the TN flag was the most generic one they could find in the right size.
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Post by: vdeane on August 11, 2018, 11:01:00 PM
The Steven Universe episode Mr. Greg has Steven, Greg, and Pearl take a trip to Empire City (equivalent of NYC).  When they leave and head back into Jersey, they're on a rural two-lane road like one would find leaving the Hudson Valley, even though real-world travel from NYC to New Jersey would be over a bridge and the area would be very urban.  Of course, the geography of Steven Universe is very different (http://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/Earth?file=It_Could%27ve_Been_Great_163.png), so it's possible the Hudson doesn't exist there and/or the state line/development patterns might be different.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: bing101 on August 12, 2018, 12:09:37 AM
There was a movie mentioned on a different thread where there was a scene where a road was on I-95 in Florida but the road was really near I-110 or I-710 in Los Angeles.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: Roadrunner75 on August 12, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
They're not depicting real roads or a real town, but in the original Halloween it seems like they are driving a good distance to go a couple blocks.  If I recall correctly, the Jamie Lee Curtis character gets picked up by her friend to go to their babysitting jobs across the street from each other.  In the beginning of the movie, Curtis walks a short distance from her house to the "Michael Myers" house.  Later in the movie, the Donald Pleasance character is at the Michael Myers house and looks down the street to see the car Michael stole parked near the house where the babysitters are.  So JLC's house and the babysitting jobs are within a couple of blocks of each other at most, yet they drove all over town to get there.  Only something a roadnut would notice.

Side note:  I noticed this and explained the above to a nice young woman I just met at a Halloween party while some of us sat down to watch the movie later that night.  Despite this, my other blabbing on about road issues here and there and detours to check out new road construction, we've been married over 14 years and have a little 9 year old future roadnut.  So go ahead and take them on a detour over the new 95/PA Turnpike ramps - but maybe wait until the second date at least.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: Revive 755 on August 12, 2018, 01:32:39 PM
The early scenes in the 2009 Star Trek Movie where southern California is substituted for rural Iowa.  The lack of hills and amount of sand along the shoulders are too much (Streetview of a road similar to that in the movie) (https://goo.gl/maps/WiHCZ1hscFK2).  Should have been something similar to this (IA 22 east of Riverside), (https://goo.gl/maps/HntLVFstDPy) this (random rural road near Riverside) (https://goo.gl/maps/ULYqxfwtjxN2), or this (old US 218 near Riverside). (https://goo.gl/maps/CoxCuDCgsH62)

Also when child Kirk joyrides his stepdad's car off a massive cliff into a deep canyon-like chasm - where the F is anything remotely like that in Iowa?
An old quarry?

When I saw it I thought that scene was clearly a futuristic abandoned quarry or mine.  Shame about the C2 Corvette though.

Could be a major expansion of the quarry near the I-80/I-380 interchange.  Google Aerial (https://goo.gl/maps/pEmvwzXijA72).  Or a future expansion of the quarry near Keota. (https://goo.gl/maps/BHAMzGk9kNq)
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 12, 2018, 01:52:04 PM
The early scenes in the 2009 Star Trek Movie where southern California is substituted for rural Iowa.  The lack of hills and amount of sand along the shoulders are too much (Streetview of a road similar to that in the movie) (https://goo.gl/maps/WiHCZ1hscFK2).  Should have been something similar to this (IA 22 east of Riverside), (https://goo.gl/maps/HntLVFstDPy) this (random rural road near Riverside) (https://goo.gl/maps/ULYqxfwtjxN2), or this (old US 218 near Riverside). (https://goo.gl/maps/CoxCuDCgsH62)

Also when child Kirk joyrides his stepdad's car off a massive cliff into a deep canyon-like chasm - where the F is anything remotely like that in Iowa?
An old quarry?

When I saw it I thought that scene was clearly a futuristic abandoned quarry or mine.  Shame about the C2 Corvette though.

Could be a major expansion of the quarry near the I-80/I-380 interchange.  Google Aerial (https://goo.gl/maps/pEmvwzXijA72).  Or a future expansion of the quarry near Keota.[url]
 (https://goo.gl/maps/BHAMzGk9kNq)
Anything is possible in futuristic sci-fi. Between now and the events of Minority Report, they repealed the ban on buildings taller than 13 stories in DC.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: cwf1701 on August 12, 2018, 06:50:45 PM
How about a 2-lane I-25 in Doctor Who? The real life version of the road is 4 lanes at the sign for Truth or Consequences NM.
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Post by: ErmineNotyours on August 12, 2018, 08:09:21 PM
Or for that matter, the end of the British Queer As Folk has the characters traveling through Arizona, which was probably shot in Spain with a very off-model Interstate shield.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: roadman65 on August 13, 2018, 10:47:36 AM

In Bosom Buddies (late 80's sitcom on ABC) you see Larry Appleton driving from Madison, WI to Chicago in the first season passing beneath the Welcome to Chicago sign leaving ORD along I-190 E Bound.  Even though I-90 goes by O' Hare, it does not at all place you under that sign en route as you would have to go inside the airport to come out to experience the view of that assembly.
Perfect Strangers.
God, I am getting old lol!  I used to watch em both all the time they were on. 

Yes, Bosum Buddies is where Tom Hanks got his start in drag with Peter Scolari.  Unfortunately, Peter only got to be a supporting actor after this show's cancellation working long side Bob Newhart, while Hanks went on to big films like Forest Gump and such as the lead man.
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Post by: SP Cook on August 13, 2018, 11:13:44 AM
Route number issues do not bother me that much, although there are lots of movies and such where you see incorrect route makers (there are lots of Georgia SRs in Smokey and the Bandit when they were in other states) is just laziness on the part of the editors. 

Geographic wrongs are a bit more.  Especially when it is unnecessary to further the plot.

My biggest gripe is the idea that inter-regional travel is conducted on inadequate non-freeway roads where stops bring the traveler into contact with inadequate services staffed by hostile or incompetent hill jacks.  In fact, you can go most anywhere on freeways or near-freeways, and recieve, for better or worse, standardized chain business services. 
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Post by: abefroman329 on August 13, 2018, 11:31:41 AM
And the 2nd..they probably had a Wisconsin state police costume in some closet they pulled out for the scene because they couldn't find the right one.
In this case, it would have had to have been a Wisconsin State Police uniform AND a patrol car, but point taken.
It's like how in Animal house they use a Tennessee flag because they could not find a big enough Pennslyvania state flag, and the TN flag was the most generic one they could find in the right size.
At least in that case, they never said which state Faber College was in, save for a throwaway line about Flounder being from "Harrisburg" (though they never specified Harrisburg, PA, and it was entirely possible that he didn't go to college in his home state).
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Post by: sparker on August 13, 2018, 01:32:27 PM
Even with poetic/cinematic license, the continuity in the film Bullitt, particularly the chase sequence in and around S.F., was, to say the least, problematic.  The chase started on Army Street (now Cesar Chavez), segued immediately to the north slope of Nob Hill, popped around the northeast quadrant of S.F. (generally north of California and east of Van Ness), and finally turned directly from the south gate of the Presidio onto San Bruno Mountain Road -- clear across town, about 8 miles away -- where the chase ended in the tank farm just outside Brisbane.  If you've never spent much time in S.F., the chase worked -- and worked well enough to become a benchmark classic of its kind!  Back about '84, a buddy and I -- in his '67 Mustang, no less -- took a camcorder (yeah, that certainly sets the time of that adventure) loaded with a VHS copy of Bullitt and attempted to trace the filming sequence of the famous chase.  Took all day, and we were still missing some of the streets.  But we did ascertain one thing:  the filming on San Bruno Mountain Road was done a couple of weeks prior to its opening to the public; the filmmakers had secured it as a "safe" location at which to conclude the chase in a violent fashion. 

But later in the film they did get something right:  coming back from an investigation at a San Mateo motel,  Bullitt (Steve McQueen) stops at the side of the US 101 freeway on the Candlestick Causeway when his GF, played by the wonderful Jacqueline Bisset, freaks out in the car and has to get out to compose herself (after inadvertently seeing a dead body at the motel).  Although today rising bay waters have inundated most of the freeway's shoulder, 51 years ago during filming there was ample room for a NB car to pull completely off the freeway and park at water's edge.   
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 13, 2018, 01:47:55 PM
Even with poetic/cinematic license, the continuity in the film Bullitt, particularly the chase sequence in and around S.F., was, to say the least, problematic.  The chase started on Army Street (now Cesar Chavez), segued immediately to the north slope of Nob Hill, popped around the northeast quadrant of S.F. (generally north of California and east of Van Ness), and finally turned directly from the south gate of the Presidio onto San Bruno Mountain Road -- clear across town, about 8 miles away -- where the chase ended in the tank farm just outside Brisbane.  If you've never spent much time in S.F., the chase worked -- and worked well enough to become a benchmark classic of its kind!  Back about '84, a buddy and I -- in his '67 Mustang, no less -- took a camcorder (yeah, that certainly sets the time of that adventure) loaded with a VHS copy of Bullitt and attempted to trace the filming sequence of the famous chase.  Took all day, and we were still missing some of the streets.  But we did ascertain one thing:  the filming on San Bruno Mountain Road was done a couple of weeks prior to its opening to the public; the filmmakers had secured it as a "safe" location at which to conclude the chase in a violent fashion. 

But later in the film they did get something right:  coming back from an investigation at a San Mateo motel,  Bullitt (Steve McQueen) stops at the side of the US 101 freeway on the Candlestick Causeway when his GF, played by the wonderful Jacqueline Bisset, freaks out in the car and has to get out to compose herself (after inadvertently seeing a dead body at the motel).  Although today rising bay waters have inundated most of the freeway's shoulder, 51 years ago during filming there was ample room for a NB car to pull completely off the freeway and park at water's edge.
And, of course, there’s The Graduate, with Benjamin driving from Southern California (?) to Berkeley by driving west on the Bay Bridge, though that’s probably just because the only way to drive on the upper deck of the bridge is to drive westbound.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: sparker on August 14, 2018, 04:31:06 AM
And, of course, there’s The Graduate, with Benjamin driving from Southern California (?) to Berkeley by driving west on the Bay Bridge, though that’s probably just because the only way to drive on the upper deck of the bridge is to drive westbound.

Not the only "reverse" shot in that film; he also went through the Gaviota tunnel on US 101 -- which is NB only -- on his way from the Bay Area down to L.A.  Dramatic license, of course; the other way wouldn't have been as striking.  I can see their point on the old Bay Bridge; EB was always akin to driving through the middle of a kid's Erector Set project (and once again dating myself!) -- now alleviated on at least the east span with the new cable-stay segment. 

That summer of '84 "Bullitt" spotting trip ended on another cinematic note:  they were filming the Bond flick A View To A Kill in S.F. at that time; that same day was the principal filming of the fire-engine chase on Upper Market St.; we were on the side of the old Chevron station at Market & Duboce that gets its logo sign clipped off in the movie watching the process.  Of course, no major actors anywhere in sight; just stunt and special-effects folks.  A week or so later was the filming of the external City Hall fire sequence -- where the crew almost actually burned the building down when their "stunt" fire proved difficult to extinguish!  Unfortunately, I had to work that day or I would have been in that crowd as well.   :-(   
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: skluth on August 14, 2018, 12:06:16 PM
Planes, Trains and Automobiles.  The train breaks down and they have to take a bus from Jefferson City, MO to St. Louis.  Why would the bus be crossing the Mississippi River from Illinois into St. Louis as shown?
It gets worse - they’re driving from St. Louis to Chicago and they get pulled over by the Wisconsin State Police.

With that movie...the company driver was just inept and went around on the I-255 bridge (what it is called today) in 1987.

The I-255 bridge across the Mississippi is called the Jefferson Barracks Bridge. That's the official name, what you hear in traffic reports, and what the locals call it. It's sometimes called the 255 bridge but mostly in casual conversation. I lived three miles from the west approach until two months ago. I doubt things have changed since then.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: Bobby5280 on August 14, 2018, 02:00:24 PM
Movies and TV shows rarely ever make any attempts to treat geography or depictions of road signs with any accuracy at all. Sometimes it's worthy of big laughs though.

Patriot Games is a good 1990's action movie. But one car chase scene is pretty baffling. It starts out in Annapolis, near the US Naval Academy. The filmmakers actually got onto one freeway in that actual area (US-50) and you can spot an I-97 sign in one of the background shots. But then the rest of the chase magically teleports to I-105 in Los Angeles (which was still under construction at the time). The scenery around LA's I-105 looks nothing like the wooded scenery around the Baltimore-DC area.

Robocop is set in "New Detroit," so they used the Dallas skyline. The next sequel used Houston.

"Hey there's Lower Grand Ave" is a sort of game I'll play when watching movies. That street (both upper & lower levels of it) shows up in lots of movies, including many not set in Los Angeles. Hell, there's even a shot of Robocop driving down it. Live Free Die Hard had a smorgasbord of laughable BS geography, including a fake toll tunnel that's supposed to be in DC, but it's really Lower Grand Ave. One really big laugh is the movie Black Rain where Andy Garcia is fighting with murderous Japanese bikers while Michael Douglas passage to help Andy is blocked by a security fence. Douglas is screaming at his partner from a Japanese location, but Garcia is fighting on Lower Grand Ave. Yeah.

Logan has a good shot of a fairly accurate looking I-40 Oklahoma City limits sign. The problem is the twinkling night time skyline behind it is Albuquerque.

The Bourne Supremacy (or was it "Ultimatum") had a car chase on the FDR Drive freeway in Manhattan. But from one shot to the next the "filmmakers" (videographers) can't figure out which direction they're taking the chase. North or south.

This stuff goes on and on. I guess none of the producers or directors figure we have access to Google Street View and can look up shooting locations pretty fast.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: Rothman on August 14, 2018, 02:22:44 PM
Anyone mention Salt, which was filmed in Albany, NY as some ridiculous attempt to pass it off as DC? :D
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 14, 2018, 03:20:45 PM
Patriot Games is a good 1990's action movie. But one car chase scene is pretty baffling. It starts out in Annapolis, near the US Naval Academy. The filmmakers actually got onto one freeway in that actual area (US-50) and you can spot an I-97 sign in one of the background shots. But then the rest of the chase magically teleports to I-105 in Los Angeles (which was still under construction at the time). The scenery around LA's I-105 looks nothing like the wooded scenery around the Baltimore-DC area.
The big chase scene towards the beginning of True Lies, where Ahnuld misses his birthday dinner, also switches freely between DC and LA.  You can tell because the street signs in DC and LA are dramatically different.  At least the scene where Ahnuld and Bill Paxton test-drive the convertible was filmed in its entirety in DC, though they drive past the Wendy's at New York and Florida numerous times.

Robocop is set in "New Detroit," so they used the Dallas skyline. The next sequel used Houston.
III was filmed in Atlanta - the bombed-out buildings used for filming were slated to be torn down and replaced with developments related to the Olympics.  There's one scene where you can clearly see a MARTA train roll past in the background.

"Hey there's Lower Grand Ave" is a sort of game I'll play when watching movies. That street (both upper & lower levels of it) shows up in lots of movies, including many not set in Los Angeles. Hell, there's even a shot of Robocop driving down it. Live Free Die Hard had a smorgasbord of laughable BS geography, including a fake toll tunnel that's supposed to be in DC, but it's really Lower Grand Ave. One really big laugh is the movie Black Rain where Andy Garcia is fighting with murderous Japanese bikers while Michael Douglas passage to help Andy is blocked by a security fence. Douglas is screaming at his partner from a Japanese location, but Garcia is fighting on Lower Grand Ave. Yeah.
To bring things full circle, Lower Grand stood in for an unnamed Japanese location in Austin Powers in Goldmember.  It was also replicated in Grand Theft Auto V.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: roadman on August 14, 2018, 03:30:39 PM
As a radio hobbyist, here's one of my pet peeves.  Not a road issue directly, but a common gaffe in many road/pursuit movies of the 1970s/1980s was where they'd show people directly listening in on the police through their CB radios.  While this is now feasible with certain mobile ham radios that have extended receive capability, this has never been possible with CB radios.  Most movie/TV producers have since figured this out, and will now show a scanner in the vehicle instead, but the gaffe still shows up on occasion.

I also share great disdain for the "two lane road branded as an Interstate highway" gaffe others have noted.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: SectorZ on August 14, 2018, 04:14:05 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drive_(2007_TV_series)#Filming_locations

This was intentionally done this way, but to me made the show unwatchable seeing everything look like southern California over a swath of the southeast US.

A different type of inaccuracy... 'Fringe' was my absolutely favorite TV show, and it chiefly took place 'in Boston', despite being filmed in NYC (season 1) and Vancouver (seasons 2-5). Frequently they would be in suburbs of Boston (including Fitchburg, which I lived in at the time) that didn't even remotely resemble the filming location. The best being a chase scene on a six-lane boulevard in a very urban setting that was supposed to be Westford.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: vdeane on August 14, 2018, 08:49:09 PM
A different type of inaccuracy... 'Fringe' was my absolutely favorite TV show, and it chiefly took place 'in Boston', despite being filmed in NYC (season 1) and Vancouver (seasons 2-5). Frequently they would be in suburbs of Boston (including Fitchburg, which I lived in at the time) that didn't even remotely resemble the filming location. The best being a chase scene on a six-lane boulevard in a very urban setting that was supposed to be Westford.
Not to mention all the times they'd be in "Pennsylvania" despite the scenery clearly being Canada (it's particularly prevalent in an episode of season 5), not to mention the Canadian railroad crossings as far back as season 1.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: skluth on August 14, 2018, 09:06:54 PM
The one that drove me crazy first time I saw it was in Close Encounters of the Third Kind (which could have its own thread for geographic booboos). Richard Dreyfus blows through the toll gate chasing a UFO on the Ohio border. While he would be correctly going from Indiana to Ohio, he started around Muncie which is nowhere near the Indiana Toll Road.

There's also one where I don't care because it's funny. All the Blues Brothers is filmed around Chicago except the scene where the Illinois Nazis drive off the stub end of a freeway. That was in Milwaukee. (The stub was eventually was completed as the Harbor Bridge.) Not much beats watching Nazis fly off the end of a bridge to nowhere.
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Post by: jeffandnicole on August 14, 2018, 09:54:41 PM
Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle: Their goal is to get to Cherry Hill, NJ. The White Castle is on a barren 5 lane roadway downwind from a cliff.  There is nothing remotely close to resembling any of that in the real Cherry Hill, to the point of wondering how they even picked Cherry Hill to be the home of the White Castle.

They did a pretty good job with the NJSP car and logo though.
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Post by: roadman65 on August 14, 2018, 10:35:08 PM
According to Sidney Sheldon, Cocoa Beach, Florida has hills and a major city downtown street in I Dream Of Jeannie.

In The A Team, they used the streets of LA to shoot them driving in NYC.   However, NYC does not use back plates and dark signal heads.  Plus at the time LA did not use NYC's type of mast arm.

Kojak also used the streets of LA to shoot New York City in some episodes as well.  Remember, Theo Kojak was a liuetenant in NYC's Manhattan South Precinct during its run.  Also how can the cars when all the characters drove them on Manhattan Streets, drive a few whole minutes without stopping for a light.  Yes, it works on the FDR and parts of NY 9A, but these were supposed to be on surface streets.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: inkyatari on August 15, 2018, 08:58:03 AM
In, I think, My Best Friend's  Wedding, they're driving up Lake Shore Drive in Chicago, and you can seethe McCormick place expansion out the driver's side window.  Later in the same scene, you see an aerial shot of the car, now with the lake on the driver's side of the car.  Apparently there's a wormhole around Balbo that teleports you all the way north to Irving Park Rd.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 15, 2018, 09:30:32 AM
There's also one where I don't care because it's funny. All the Blues Brothers is filmed around Chicago except the scene where the Illinois Nazis drive off the stub end of a freeway. That was in Milwaukee. (The stub was eventually was completed as the Harbor Bridge.) Not much beats watching Nazis fly off the end of a bridge to nowhere.
That whole sequence is so well-done, it’s barely noticeable. I had to point it out to my wife.

In general I think the movie plays it fast and loose with geography (the L doesn’t go to Calumet City, FFS). Anyone know the location of the Holiday Inn where Murph and the Magic Tones play?
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Post by: Mr_Northside on August 15, 2018, 03:58:48 PM
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In general I think the movie plays it fast and loose with geography (the L doesn’t go to Calumet City, FFS). Anyone know the location of the Holiday Inn where Murph and the Magic Tones play?

And time......  Seems a stretch to think they go straight from their concert (finishing probably no later than 11-11:30) straight to downtown to pay their tax bill - which doesn't seem like it would be earlier than 8am

So whever they were at took about 9 hours - at highway chase speeds from downtown Chicago.

Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: inkyatari on August 15, 2018, 04:25:56 PM
Close Encounters of the Third Kind, my all time favorite movie has geography inaccuracies that annoy me.

The first part of the movie takes place in and around Muncie, Indiana. There's a sequence where Roy Neary is chasing a UFO, and he goes through a pretty substantial tunnel.  In Indiana.  Northeast Indiana. (Most of the movie was filmed in Mobile, AL, but it still annoys me) THen, minutes later, he's seen crossing into Ohio on the Indiana Toll Road, as the UFO's, and  Indiana HIghway Patrol, precede Roy through a toll booth on the Ohio Turnpike.  Approximately 135 miles, 2 1/2 hours.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 15, 2018, 06:33:30 PM
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In general I think the movie plays it fast and loose with geography (the L doesn’t go to Calumet City, FFS). Anyone know the location of the Holiday Inn where Murph and the Magic Tones play?

And time......  Seems a stretch to think they go straight from their concert (finishing probably no later than 11-11:30) straight to downtown to pay their tax bill - which doesn't seem like it would be earlier than 8am

So whever they were at took about 9 hours - at highway chase speeds from downtown Chicago.
It’s worse - the clerk at the tax assessor’s office (played by Steven Spielberg!) is eating lunch when they arrive.

Of course, in the aforementioned Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, it takes about 24 hours to get from St. Louis to Chicago.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: roadman65 on August 15, 2018, 07:07:08 PM
Smokey and The Bandit shows that the Texas side of Texarkana is rural (hence the seen where Bandit picks up runaway bride Frog) when the urban is built up along the State Line.  Even the booze part the producers did not fact check either.  The Texas side of the city is part of Dry Baker County hence all the liquor stores on State Line Avenue on the AR side of the street.

Also the best route from Atlanta to Texarkana even in 1977 when it was filmed would have had the drive mostly along I-20. Most scenes were filmed along GA two lane roads making you think that a race for time would want to use substandard non freeway scenes.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 15, 2018, 08:26:56 PM
Smokey and The Bandit shows that the Texas side of Texarkana is rural (hence the seen where Bandit picks up runaway bride Frog) when the urban is built up along the State Line.  Even the booze part the producers did not fact check either.  The Texas side of the city is part of Dry Baker County hence all the liquor stores on State Line Avenue on the AR side of the street.

Also the best route from Atlanta to Texarkana even in 1977 when it was filmed would have had the drive mostly along I-20. Most scenes were filmed along GA two lane roads making you think that a race for time would want to use substandard non freeway scenes.
The entire movie was filmed in GA. The scene where they get on I-85 north at Pleasant Hill Road is quite a thing to see if you know what that area looks like now.
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Post by: jon daly on August 15, 2018, 09:24:03 PM
All this Blues Brothers talk reminds me that Aretha Franklin is ill. (and Matt "Guitar" Murphy passed away recently.) It's one of the triumvirate of comedies featuring early SNL castmembers that made our gang's canon. The other two are Animal House and Caddyshack.

I actually had the novelization in my personal library at one point.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: Beltway on August 15, 2018, 09:49:49 PM
As a radio hobbyist, here's one of my pet peeves.  Not a road issue directly, but a common gaffe in many road/pursuit movies of the 1970s/1980s was where they'd show people directly listening in on the police through their CB radios.  While this is now feasible with certain mobile ham radios that have extended receive capability, this has never been possible with CB radios.  Most movie/TV producers have since figured this out, and will now show a scanner in the vehicle instead, but the gaffe still shows up on occasion.

How about the ubiquitous "come in please?" in movies and TV at the end of each radio transmission?  A phrase that radio amateurs and professionals do not use.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: jp the roadgeek on August 15, 2018, 10:32:55 PM
The 1990's Denis Leary movie The Ref, takes place in a town called Old Baybrook, CT.  Obviously, any geography buff knows the town it's really modeled after.  You even see a shot at night of what is supposed to be Saybrook Jetty.  However, come to find out, the movie was shot in Ontario, Canada.


The movie Beetlejuice is supposed to take place in Litchfield County, CT.  Even more authentic, I remember seeing a truck with a 203-489 number on the outside, which would have been at the time a phone number in Torrington (860 didn't exist yet).  However, the dirt road and the covered bridge (where they die) don't resemble the area in West Cornwall.  Come to find out, the shots outside the house were filmed in Corinth, VT and as it turns out, the bridge and the approach roads were custom built for the set.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 16, 2018, 07:52:28 AM
Toronto doubles for Chicago pretty frequently. The entirety of My Big Fat Greek Wedding was filmed there, with the exception of some B roll at the beginning.

IIRC, there was some inaccurate geography in Wayne’s World, but it’s been so long since I’ve seen it, I don’t recall the specifics.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: vdeane on August 16, 2018, 01:37:23 PM
How about the ubiquitous "come in please?" in movies and TV at the end of each radio transmission?  A phrase that radio amateurs and professionals do not use.
So what do they actually use in those situations?
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: jon daly on August 16, 2018, 03:24:30 PM
Returning to the original question, suspension of disbelief usually prevents me from getting worked up about this stuff, but the intersection of US-8 & US-395 in the Back to the Future movies irks me.

There's also some Connecticut reference in the show Elementary that make me wonder if the writers ever left NYC. One episode has a planned ski resort in some flat portion of the Naugatuck River valley. This is less than an hour away from New York!  I can see writers getting flyover country geography wrong, but these folks must live in a smaller cave than I previously suspected.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 16, 2018, 03:54:06 PM
One of the reasons my dad loves the Dick Wolf Chicago shows is because they never say they’re going to the corner of two streets that run parallel to each other (say, the corner of State and Wabash).
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Post by: crispy93 on August 16, 2018, 04:09:13 PM
In The Seven Ups, the driver trying to evade police is being tailgated by a bus on the Palisades Parkway in northern NJ, then the road switches to the Taconic where the chase ends when he rear-ends a truck pulled over at the NY100/133 exit (now Exit 8). Parkways are, of course, closed to commercial traffic. As an aside, in that chase, trucks can be seen on the lower level of the GWB, which is a neat throwback to pre-9/11 restrictions.

There was an episode of Monk where a toll operator was killed in the Bay Bridge toll plaza, which is shown as a quiet two-man operation.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: SectorZ on August 16, 2018, 08:25:14 PM
Returning to the original question, suspension of disbelief usually prevents me from getting worked up about this stuff, but the intersection of US-8 & US-395 in the Back to the Future movies irks me.

That one always got me, especially since it stands out.

Don't forget what *might* be I-99 in the sky in BTTF II, http://backtothefuture.wikia.com/wiki/Skyway?file=Bf2freeway.jpg
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 16, 2018, 09:58:26 PM
Returning to the original question, suspension of disbelief usually prevents me from getting worked up about this stuff, but the intersection of US-8 & US-395 in the Back to the Future movies irks me.

That one always got me, especially since it stands out.

Don't forget what *might* be I-99 in the sky in BTTF II, http://backtothefuture.wikia.com/wiki/Skyway?file=Bf2freeway.jpg
I don’t know what I-99 refers to since that particular Skyway has a route number of C25. Maybe it’s Interchange 99?
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: SteveG1988 on August 17, 2018, 04:31:54 PM
Planes, Trains and Automobiles.  The train breaks down and they have to take a bus from Jefferson City, MO to St. Louis.  Why would the bus be crossing the Mississippi River from Illinois into St. Louis as shown?
It gets worse - they’re driving from St. Louis to Chicago and they get pulled over by the Wisconsin State Police.

With that movie...the company driver was just inept and went around on the I-255 bridge (what it is called today) in 1987.

The I-255 bridge across the Mississippi is called the Jefferson Barracks Bridge. That's the official name, what you hear in traffic reports, and what the locals call it. It's sometimes called the 255 bridge but mostly in casual conversation. I lived three miles from the west approach until two months ago. I doubt things have changed since then.

I meant the route number it was back then.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: TEG24601 on August 18, 2018, 07:20:06 PM
How about a 2-lane I-25 in Doctor Who? The real life version of the road is 4 lanes at the sign for Truth or Consequences NM.


Well, that's like the 2-lane Interstate 66 in Lexx... in the desert. Not quite accurate.


The one that bothers me, frequently, is the CW Superhero Shows, that nominally take place in fictional US cities, have a lot of Canadian signs, and Canadian traffic signals.


In CW's The Flash, Central City is obviously based on Portland, OR.  However, STAR Labs, keeps jumping sides of the Willamette River.  In one shot it is nestled between I-5 and the river, just south of the Marquam Bridge (where the lower waterfront development is now), in the next, it is on the east side of the river, where next to the Grand/MLK Viaducts merge, on OR 99E.  May not be directly road related, but annoying to me.


I would mention all the errors regarding ferries in movies that take place in the Puget Sound (Double Jeopardy, Grey's Anatomy, etc), but that would just take too long.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: roadman65 on August 18, 2018, 07:38:25 PM
Smokey and The Bandit shows that the Texas side of Texarkana is rural (hence the seen where Bandit picks up runaway bride Frog) when the urban is built up along the State Line.  Even the booze part the producers did not fact check either.  The Texas side of the city is part of Dry Baker County hence all the liquor stores on State Line Avenue on the AR side of the street.

Also the best route from Atlanta to Texarkana even in 1977 when it was filmed would have had the drive mostly along I-20. Most scenes were filmed along GA two lane roads making you think that a race for time would want to use substandard non freeway scenes.
The entire movie was filmed in GA. The scene where they get on I-85 north at Pleasant Hill Road is quite a thing to see if you know what that area looks like now.
The roller coaster in the first movie was the very same one imploded (though made to look like Jackie Gleason's Sheriff Buford T. Justice knocked it down with careless driving under it) in the second move.  It was done at a small speedway outside Atlanta.

In the first one you can see the typical 1970's era freeway overpasses in the truck convoy scene and where the Bandit drove on the grass through a diamond interchange.  Also when they were in Mississippi that scene was no doubt filmed in Atlanta on one of the  urban freeways.

In the second one they did use scenes from Florida and West Texas (the famous desert showdown) in addition to GA places.  The Sunshine Skyway twin bridges from before the Summit Laurel disaster and the original I-4 and I-275 interchange both were used, though the producers got the sequence backwards while playing Roy Rogers Concrete Cowboy song.  They featured them heading to Miami from Dallas first crossing the Sunshine Skyway before passing through Tampa, where in reality it would be in the other order considering  that even then using US 41 from Tampa down (as I-75 was only starting to get built then) would be the fastest route.

Also the Golden Girls opening shows the wrong part of Miami- Dade County to depict Miami as it shows the barrier island being narrow where Miami Beach it is not only wider, but the Biscayne Bay is much wider as well.  The first season showed the actual skyline of Downtown Miami where I think the later seasons used either Sunny Isles or even some place in Broward or Palm Beach Counties to depict Miami where the show is to be taken place.  Also the house used on the show was inside WDW near Orlando and on the back lot tour and was a focal point during the early 90's if you visited the former MGM Studios (now Disney's Hollywood Studios.  The neighbors house used in Empty Nest ( a spin off of the show) used a real live house someplace else (not in Disney) as during empty nest you sometimes saw traffic pass by that house.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: bing101 on August 21, 2018, 12:16:50 AM
How about Lethal Weapon 4 where the chase scene was on the  I-215 in Las Vegas. But the movie script said its was on the 210 Freeway in Los Angeles.

https://nevadafilm.com/scene-in-nevada-lethal-weapon-4/

Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: roadman65 on August 22, 2018, 05:47:31 PM
I was watching Walker Texas Ranger and they got the county name wrong for Dallas.  The Tarrant County Courthouse would not be used for prosecuting criminals arrested in Dallas.  Tarrant County, though near Dallas, is for Fort Worth.

However, the chase scenes are in Dallas as the long viaduct on Jefferson Blvd (Old US 77) is used when walker has his shoot outs with bad guys while in his pick up truck.  Even one scene involved with a helicopter was filmed there.  I am guessing its easy to close that roadway during peak travel times to do a film shoot so it appears almost in every episode.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: MCRoads on August 23, 2018, 02:08:44 PM
May not be what you mean in the total, but they always fill the crash attenuators with water. They are filled with sand, otherwise it would freeze during winter. GRRRRRR
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: RoadWarrior56 on August 23, 2018, 03:50:09 PM
My all-time favorite roadway inaccuracy from TV:  Approximately 10 years ago there was a short run TV series that aired on FOX called "Drive".  It involved a road race/road rally from Key West, FL to somewhere on the west coast based on some now-forgotten weird plot line.  What I do remember most distinctly is that all of the highway chase/race scenes all took place on the same section of a then unopened freeway in the Los Angeles area, with mountains and hills in the background.  In the very first episode the cars were supposively racing up the Keys along US 1, and they were filmed on this section of future I-210, a freeway with hills and mountains.  I was laughing out loud at the scene.  There are no hills and there are no freeways on the Florida Keys.  I think that series only lasted about 4-5 episodes before it was canceled.  I need to see if those episodes have been posted on YouTube.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: swhuck on August 23, 2018, 06:24:24 PM
Smokey and the Bandit: As someone else pointed out, the best route even then was via the road that would eventually be the I-22 corridor. This is about a 650 mile drive one way -- very doable in the amount of time they had -- rather than the 900 miles they claimed it was in the movie.

Logan: There is one scene -- probably the drugstore scene about two-thirds of the way through the movie -- where if you look hard you can see a Louisiana state highway sign. I believe they were supposed to be somewhere between Oklahoma and North Dakota at the time.

Logan again: At the end of the movie, the mountains at the US-Canada border in North Dakota. WTF?

Charmed: How many times did they show establishing shots of San Francisco with the Embarcadero freeway -- which was demolished after the 1989 quake? This series was filmed starting in 1998.



Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 23, 2018, 07:58:51 PM
Smokey and the Bandit: As someone else pointed out, the best route even then was via the road that would eventually be the I-22 corridor. This is about a 650 mile drive one way -- very doable in the amount of time they had -- rather than the 900 miles they claimed it was in the movie.
On the other hand, Atlanta to New England and back in 24 hours (the challenge they’re given at the end) would have been impossible.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: inkyatari on August 24, 2018, 11:59:34 AM
In the original Halloween, there's a scene where a car from Smith's Grove Sanitarium is found alongside a road, but there appear to be mountains in the background.  Remember this is set in Illinois.  I am willing to take away a sin for this scene, as there are a few places in southern illinois that have the Shawnee hills rising in the background, resembling mountains, however I give the sin back because those are desert mountains.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: Roadwarriors79 on August 25, 2018, 09:20:43 AM
Route number issues do not bother me that much, although there are lots of movies and such where you see incorrect route makers (there are lots of Georgia SRs in Smokey and the Bandit when they were in other states) is just laziness on the part of the editors. 

Geographic wrongs are a bit more.  Especially when it is unnecessary to further the plot.

My biggest gripe is the idea that inter-regional travel is conducted on inadequate non-freeway roads where stops bring the traveler into contact with inadequate services staffed by hostile or incompetent hill jacks.  In fact, you can go most anywhere on freeways or near-freeways, and recieve, for better or worse, standardized chain business services.

Hollywood would give someone the impression that the only way to drive cross country is on two lane roads through “flyover country” like the 50s and 60s.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 25, 2018, 11:58:57 AM
Route number issues do not bother me that much, although there are lots of movies and such where you see incorrect route makers (there are lots of Georgia SRs in Smokey and the Bandit when they were in other states) is just laziness on the part of the editors. 

Geographic wrongs are a bit more.  Especially when it is unnecessary to further the plot.

My biggest gripe is the idea that inter-regional travel is conducted on inadequate non-freeway roads where stops bring the traveler into contact with inadequate services staffed by hostile or incompetent hill jacks.  In fact, you can go most anywhere on freeways or near-freeways, and recieve, for better or worse, standardized chain business services.

Hollywood would give someone the impression that the only way to drive cross country is on two lane roads through “flyover country” like the 50s and 60s.
Road trips on two-lane roads just *look* better on film. At least in Rain Man they explained it away with Raymond being afraid to travel on expressways.

One notable exception to this is The Hangover - they drive between Southern California and Las Vegas on expressways.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 25, 2018, 12:00:42 PM
In the original Halloween, there's a scene where a car from Smith's Grove Sanitarium is found alongside a road, but there appear to be mountains in the background.  Remember this is set in Illinois.  I am willing to take away a sin for this scene, as there are a few places in southern illinois that have the Shawnee hills rising in the background, resembling mountains, however I give the sin back because those are desert mountains.
There’s a scene at the end of Debbie Does Iowa that takes place at a football game in, well, Iowa where there are some desert mountains visible in the background.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: jas on August 26, 2018, 12:59:57 PM
Not a movie, but in the song "Intentional Heartache" by Dwight Yoakam, the lines are "she drove south I-95 straight through Carolina", later to be followed by "she pulled off on a state route just north of Charlotte".  Not possible.

Also, "Wagon Wheel" by Old Crow Medicine Show, they sing about being picked up by a trucker outta Philly who's headed west from the Cumberland Gap to Johnson City, Tennessee, which is the opposite direction.
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Post by: abefroman329 on August 26, 2018, 03:06:12 PM
I once saw a few minutes of a movie set in the South that had scenes filmed on MARTA that tried to make it out to be some sort of long-distance rail system - and had some back-asswards geography, too (something along the lines of traveling from Atlanta to Macon by way of Savannah). Had Terence Stamp doing the world’s worst fake Southern accent. That’s all I remember about it.
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Post by: apeman33 on August 26, 2018, 03:23:19 PM
How about a 2-lane I-25 in Doctor Who? The real life version of the road is 4 lanes at the sign for Truth or Consequences NM.


Well, that's like the 2-lane Interstate 66 in Lexx... in the desert. Not quite accurate.


The one that bothers me, frequently, is the CW Superhero Shows, that nominally take place in fictional US cities, have a lot of Canadian signs, and Canadian traffic signals.


In CW's The Flash, Central City is obviously based on Portland, OR.  However, STAR Labs, keeps jumping sides of the Willamette River.  In one shot it is nestled between I-5 and the river, just south of the Marquam Bridge (where the lower waterfront development is now), in the next, it is on the east side of the river, where next to the Grand/MLK Viaducts merge, on OR 99E.  May not be directly road related, but annoying to me.


I would mention all the errors regarding ferries in movies that take place in the Puget Sound (Double Jeopardy, Grey's Anatomy, etc), but that would just take too long.

That's because the CW's budget for shows makes shooting in Los Angeles too expensive, so they shoot in Vancouver. This is also why Calista Flockhart's character became part-time on Supergirl when it switched from CBS to the CW; she didn't want to move when production moved to Canada.

Season One of the Flash made me speculate that Central City is in Canada, regardless. This is because they used B.C. Place for a scene in which Flash and Reverse Flash fought each other and I noticed the field was set up for Canadian football (goal posts on the goal line and a 55-yard line). So if Arrow's Star City is 600 miles away, as was once claimed when Flash ran there for an episode, and is also on a coast, then Star City is between Medford, OR and Eureka, CA .

Also, to the poster that started the thread, I found the U.S. 44 shield in Missouri in "Founder" interesting as well and also noticed in a later scene that there was also a U.S. 17 shield in a scene set in Arizona. That makes me think that whoever set up those shots thinks that interstate highways were once U.S routes that got promoted.
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Post by: bing101 on August 27, 2018, 12:53:40 AM
https://www.seventeen.com/celebrity/movies-tv/a47369/13-reasons-why-filming-locations/

Yes 13 reasons why was actually filmed in the North Bay in the San Francisco area note the fictional city of Crestmont is really done in Downtown Vallejo and Mare Island, Sebastapol, Benicia and Crockett

Note the Al Zampa/carquinez bridge has an appearance on this show.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: roadman on August 27, 2018, 01:43:06 PM
Not a movie, but in the song "Intentional Heartache" by Dwight Yoakam, the lines are "she drove south I-95 straight through Carolina", later to be followed by "she pulled off on a state route just north of Charlotte".  Not possible.

Also, "Wagon Wheel" by Old Crow Medicine Show, they sing about being picked up by a trucker outta Philly who's headed west from the Cumberland Gap to Johnson City, Tennessee, which is the opposite direction.

If the person in Wagon Wheel is destined for Raleigh, then why are they heading due south out of Roanoke?
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: 1 on August 27, 2018, 02:20:21 PM
Not a movie, but in the song "Intentional Heartache" by Dwight Yoakam, the lines are "she drove south I-95 straight through Carolina", later to be followed by "she pulled off on a state route just north of Charlotte".  Not possible.

Also, "Wagon Wheel" by Old Crow Medicine Show, they sing about being picked up by a trucker outta Philly who's headed west from the Cumberland Gap to Johnson City, Tennessee, which is the opposite direction.

If the person in Wagon Wheel is destined for Raleigh, then why are they heading due south out of Roanoke?

Google Maps and Apple Maps both say to start on US 220, which is due south.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: bcroadguy on August 28, 2018, 05:31:52 AM
"San Francisco" in the new Antman movie was filled with traffic lights that had yellow backs which were mounted on truss arms. I could instantly tell that it was filmed in Downtown Atlanta.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on August 28, 2018, 08:16:47 AM
"San Francisco" in the new Antman movie was filled with traffic lights that had yellow backs which were mounted on truss arms. I could instantly tell that it was filmed in Downtown Atlanta.
The MCU in general is terrible about that. Spider-Man: Homecoming had a scene set in Queens where you could clearly see a MARTA bus in the background, and Black Panther had a scene supposedly set at an art museum in London that was clearly the High.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: jon daly on August 28, 2018, 10:08:03 AM
Someone mentioned Vancouver upthread. A lot of shows are filmed up there; including the underrated and sorely missed USA Network funny cop show Psych.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: bing101 on November 18, 2018, 07:36:46 PM

In the Mickey Mouse Segment on San Francisco. Mickey and Minnie's cable car lands on a 3 tower Golden Gate Bridge.  The Mickey mouse division of Disney decided to do a hybrid of the Western half of the Bay Bridge and Golden gate Bridge for the segment and some of the cable car scenes has to be a parody of Bullitt though.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: sparker on November 18, 2018, 07:59:35 PM
Not a movie, but in the song "Intentional Heartache" by Dwight Yoakam, the lines are "she drove south I-95 straight through Carolina", later to be followed by "she pulled off on a state route just north of Charlotte".  Not possible.

Also, "Wagon Wheel" by Old Crow Medicine Show, they sing about being picked up by a trucker outta Philly who's headed west from the Cumberland Gap to Johnson City, Tennessee, which is the opposite direction.

If the person in Wagon Wheel is destined for Raleigh, then why are they heading due south out of Roanoke?

Someone jumped the gun and told them I-73 was finished! :sombrero:
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: tdindy88 on November 18, 2018, 08:48:21 PM
In the Mickey Mouse Segment on San Francisco. Mickey and Minnie's cable car lands on a 3 tower Golden Gate Bridge.  The Mickey mouse division of Disney decided to do a hybrid of the Western half of the Bay Bridge and Golden gate Bridge for the segment and some of the cable car scenes has to be a parody of Bullitt though.

Of course that's inaccurate. To my knowledge you can't even ride a cable car today (Nov. 18.) Not to mention the air's way too clear. Where's the smoke and haze Disney?
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: bing101 on November 19, 2018, 07:41:25 AM
In the Mickey Mouse Segment on San Francisco. Mickey and Minnie's cable car lands on a 3 tower Golden Gate Bridge.  The Mickey mouse division of Disney decided to do a hybrid of the Western half of the Bay Bridge and Golden gate Bridge for the segment and some of the cable car scenes has to be a parody of Bullitt though.

Of course that's inaccurate. To my knowledge you can't even ride a cable car today (Nov. 18.) Not to mention the air's way too clear. Where's the smoke and haze Disney?


 :-D  If you look at the description of the video the scene was made in 2014.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: bing101 on November 19, 2018, 07:48:39 AM
http://www.tu.edu/news/vn_themaster.html


http://www.visitvallejo.com/film-office/solano-county-feature-film-history


If your wondering where some of the "San Francisco" "Oakland" and "Napa Valley" Scenes in some of your movies and TV Shows are shot. According to this link its on Mare Island.





Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: DJ Particle on November 20, 2018, 03:26:39 AM
How about a 2-lane I-25 in Doctor Who? The real life version of the road is 4 lanes at the sign for Truth or Consequences NM.

I know the episode in question...it's one of the two animated episodes featuring the Tenth Doctor - "Dreamland"

It's not the 2 lane road that stands out in and of itself, as they did mean to show the early days of the Interstate system (which did often have 2-lane roads signed as Interstates).

What stands out is that particular scene supposedly takes place in *1947*!!  It shows the fabled "Roswell crash" happening.

Um...there were NO Interstate highways in 1947...

Not only that, but Truth or Consequences, NM wasn't named such until the mid-1950s.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: DJ Particle on November 20, 2018, 03:30:49 AM
Now for my own fave inaccuracy...

Not a TV Movie, but... themovie "One Crazy Summer" somehow had Hoops and his friend driving from Long Island to Woods Hole, MA...  by going WEST ON US-6 OVER BASS RIVER at the Dennis/Yarmouth line?!?   :hmmm:
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: The Nature Boy on December 04, 2018, 11:31:13 AM
Not a movie, but in the song "Intentional Heartache" by Dwight Yoakam, the lines are "she drove south I-95 straight through Carolina", later to be followed by "she pulled off on a state route just north of Charlotte".  Not possible.

Also, "Wagon Wheel" by Old Crow Medicine Show, they sing about being picked up by a trucker outta Philly who's headed west from the Cumberland Gap to Johnson City, Tennessee, which is the opposite direction.

If the person in Wagon Wheel is destined for Raleigh, then why are they heading due south out of Roanoke?

Someone jumped the gun and told them I-73 was finished! :sombrero:

Better question: How does someone who is Raleigh bound from New England end up that far west? According to Wikipedia, the writer of the song (aside from the parts ripped from Bob Dylan) wrote it while a student in Exeter, NH so let's assume that that is the starting point. It can't be that difficult to hitchhike down I-95, the busiest corridor on the east coast, and not end up hundreds of miles off course.

I can understand that hitchhiking can take you some weird places.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: SP Cook on December 04, 2018, 01:30:00 PM
Not a movie, but in the song "Intentional Heartache" by Dwight Yoakam, the lines are "she drove south I-95 straight through Carolina", later to be followed by "she pulled off on a state route just north of Charlotte".  Not possible.

All time worst geography in a song is, of course, Country Roads.  The song was originally written as "Almost Heaven, Massachusetts" as an attempt at a state song.  When John Denver decided to make the song country, he picked "West Virginia", where he had never been, to keep the number of syllables the same, picking it over Alabama.  He then changed the geographic items mentioned in the song, the Berkshire mountains and Naragansett Bay, with the Blue Ridge mountains and Shenandoah river, both of which are only in a tiny part of one county in WV, 99.9% in Virginia.  Other original lyrics included "fisherman's lady" "beautiful blue water" and "frosty taste of Falstaff's".  He kept the "radio reminds me of my home far away"  which worked for a song about someone driving east towards Boston, but not for someone driving (through Maryland) west towards the Shenandoah river, as the radio would be coming from behind you, from Washington and Baltimore, not from WV.

                                                                                   
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: ErmineNotyours on December 04, 2018, 10:33:45 PM
Another strange geographical reference in a song, Kim Wilde's "Kids of America": "New York to East California, there's a new wave comin' I warn ya."
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Post by: Finrod on December 15, 2018, 08:32:50 PM
Another MCU road inaccuracy: In Captain America: The Winter Soldier, during the scene where Nick Fury is being chased by the fake police in what's supposed to be downtown Washington DC, you can clearly see a US 6 - US 322 sign that they pass.  Neither of those roads go anywhere near DC, and they only overlap in downtown Cleveland.  They could have at least digitally edited the sign to be US 1 and US 50.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: ipeters61 on December 15, 2018, 08:50:16 PM
Not a road inaccuracy but I was thinking of this throughout the thread.  One day I was watching the Six Million Dollar Man on TV and they said that they were "25 miles [some direction] from Philadelphia."  In the desert.  There are no deserts around here.

I do want to give The Office props for using PA-307, with an actual PA shield, in the clip where Michael drives his car into the lake somewhere in the Scranton area (link in my signature).
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: MCRoads on December 17, 2018, 10:46:34 AM
Not a road inaccuracy but I was thinking of this throughout the thread.  One day I was watching the Six Million Dollar Man on TV and they said that they were "25 miles [some direction] from Philadelphia."  In the desert.  There are no deserts around here.

I do want to give The Office props for using PA-307, with an actual PA shield, in the clip where Michael drives his car into the lake somewhere in the Scranton area (link in my signature).

I believe that is user error, as the GPS clearly wanted them to go over the bridge. Where they were turning wasn’t even a road!
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: ipeters61 on December 17, 2018, 10:52:01 AM
Not a road inaccuracy but I was thinking of this throughout the thread.  One day I was watching the Six Million Dollar Man on TV and they said that they were "25 miles [some direction] from Philadelphia."  In the desert.  There are no deserts around here.

I do want to give The Office props for using PA-307, with an actual PA shield, in the clip where Michael drives his car into the lake somewhere in the Scranton area (link in my signature).

I believe that is user error, as the GPS clearly wanted them to go over the bridge. Where they were turning wasn’t even a road!
Maybe it's a shortcut, Dwight.  :spin:
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: roadman on December 17, 2018, 11:10:27 AM
Smokey and the Bandit: As someone else pointed out, the best route even then was via the road that would eventually be the I-22 corridor. This is about a 650 mile drive one way -- very doable in the amount of time they had -- rather than the 900 miles they claimed it was in the movie.
On the other hand, Atlanta to New England and back in 24 hours (the challenge they’re given at the end) would have been impossible.
The challenge was 18 hours, not 24.
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Post by: cabiness42 on December 17, 2018, 11:42:47 AM
In the movie The American President, during a White House Christmas party, Sydney recounts an incident on Dupont Circle, prompting AJ to ask "What were you doing up on the Hill". But Dupont Circle is northwest of the White House and Capitol Hill is to the southeast.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: Rothman on December 17, 2018, 03:01:18 PM
In the movie The American President, during a White House Christmas party, Sydney recounts an incident on Dupont Circle, prompting AJ to ask "What were you doing up on the Hill". But Dupont Circle is northwest of the White House and Capitol Hill is to the southeast.
I don't see the problem here.  Up does not always equal north.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: cabiness42 on December 17, 2018, 03:07:32 PM
In the movie The American President, during a White House Christmas party, Sydney recounts an incident on Dupont Circle, prompting AJ to ask "What were you doing up on the Hill". But Dupont Circle is northwest of the White House and Capitol Hill is to the southeast.
I don't see the problem here.  Up does not always equal north.

There is a little bit more to the conversation than the snippet I posted, but the implication is that Dupont Circle is very near Capitol Hill which it is not.
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Post by: abefroman329 on December 17, 2018, 03:34:25 PM
In the movie The American President, during a White House Christmas party, Sydney recounts an incident on Dupont Circle, prompting AJ to ask "What were you doing up on the Hill". But Dupont Circle is northwest of the White House and Capitol Hill is to the southeast.
I believe she got stuck in rush hour traffic on Dupont Circle.  That's a rookie mistake right there.

Sorkin's grasp of DC geography isn't great.  I never watched The West Wing, but I understood it was impossible for characters on that show to travel between two points in DC without traveling via Dupont Circle.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on December 17, 2018, 03:36:25 PM
I used to work in the office building that housed the flower shop that the President called to order flowers and, later, where he showed up in person.  It was in the office building behind the Willard Hotel, and it is very close to the White House.  Visiting foreign dignitaries would frequently stay at the Willard.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: FrCorySticha on December 18, 2018, 05:09:28 PM
How about a 2-lane I-25 in Doctor Who? The real life version of the road is 4 lanes at the sign for Truth or Consequences NM.

I know the episode in question...it's one of the two animated episodes featuring the Tenth Doctor - "Dreamland"

It's not the 2 lane road that stands out in and of itself, as they did mean to show the early days of the Interstate system (which did often have 2-lane roads signed as Interstates).

What stands out is that particular scene supposedly takes place in *1947*!!  It shows the fabled "Roswell crash" happening.

Um...there were NO Interstate highways in 1947...

Not only that, but Truth or Consequences, NM wasn't named such until the mid-1950s.

The 2-lane I-25 also shows up in the Twelfth Doctor 2-part The Zygon Invasion and The Zygon Inversion. In that case, it's supposed to be modern day, which is obviously wrong to portray it as a narrow, windy 2-lane.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: DJ Particle on December 19, 2018, 02:53:58 AM
The 2-lane I-25 also shows up in the Twelfth Doctor 2-part The Zygon Invasion and The Zygon Inversion. In that case, it's supposed to be modern day, which is obviously wrong to portray it as a narrow, windy 2-lane.

How did I miss that?   :confused:
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: RobbieL2415 on December 19, 2018, 08:17:39 PM
On the X-Files when they establish the location as San Francisco but the stoplights would all have yellow reflectors behind them meaning its actually BC, Canada.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: abefroman329 on December 20, 2018, 11:10:08 PM
It wasn’t a road inaccuracy, but a recent episode of Roseanne had a character say they were going to a concert “in Ravinia.” “At Ravinia” would’ve been the correct terminology, since it’s a concert venue and not the name of a city or town.
Title: Re: TV-Movie Road inaccuracies that drive you crazy!
Post by: ErmineNotyours on December 24, 2018, 11:28:52 AM
When I myself was a kid, I read the Ramona books by Beverly Cleary, set in Portland, Oregon.  In one book, she told her dad that she wanted to stand on the middle of the Interstate Bridge with her arms stretched out, one in Oregon and one in Washington.  That's a very kid thing to do; I myself was and am interested in state and international borders.  However, her dad dissuaded her of that notion, saying the bridge is on an Interstate highway, and is closed to pedestrians.  When I finally went over the bridge, I saw that it has a sidewalk, and later I was able to walk over it myself.  It's an old bridge, so it's likely it was open back when the book was being written.  Either this is a lapse in research, or a "character error".  Perhaps the dad really didn't know the bridge was open to pedestrians, or he didn't want to bother to drive out there and then walk several long minutes with traffic roaring right by you.  I walked out there to take a picture of an unusual sign that I'm posting over on the Good, Bad and Ugly thread over in Traffic Control.
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Post by: bing101 on February 09, 2019, 03:10:17 PM
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2017/09/07/bumblebee-film-to-transforms-vallejo-into-movie-set/

The movie Bumblebee uses San Francisco as its location but parts of the movie was filmed in Vallejo,CA.