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Title: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on March 06, 2019, 06:09:58 PM
Well, this came out of left field. :no:

Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: MNHighwayMan on March 06, 2019, 06:49:19 PM
That's not good, at all. Pancreatic cancer is about the worst cancer you can get, and as morbid as it is to say, he's probably not making it out of 2019. X-(
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: bulldog1979 on March 06, 2019, 07:06:31 PM
My great uncle and his brother-in-law were both diagnosed with stage IV pancreatic cancer around the same time in the 1990s, and both were given 6 months to live. The brother-in-law gave up and was dead in 4.5 months. My great uncle decided to fight it and lived another 3.5 years.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: US71 on March 06, 2019, 09:51:56 PM
My great uncle and his brother-in-law were both diagnosed with stage IV pancreatic cancer around the same time in the 1990s, and both were given 6 months to live. The brother-in-law gave up and was dead in 4.5 months. My great uncle decided to fight it and lived another 3.5 years.

Sounds like my dad and Prostate cancer: he was give I think 3-4 years, but beat and lived 9 years.

FWIW, Art Fleming died of pancreatic cancer.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: txstateends on March 07, 2019, 01:28:04 AM
Very sad news.  Would be good if Alex can make it at least through his remaining 3 years.  If he "leaves the building" sooner, well, he's had a good long career.  Hopefully his fight won't be a painful one.  Can't believe he's 78.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on March 07, 2019, 08:39:05 AM
Can't believe he's 78.

Me either. He looks good for his age. He’s already survived 2 heart attacks. Hell, I think his mom is still alive.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: Henry on March 07, 2019, 10:05:34 AM
This is really one from the "Say it ain't so!" department. I can see Sony lining up potential replacements if Alex doesn't make it to 2022, when his current contract is set to expire. But I hope he does, and best of luck to him.

Can't believe he's 78.

Me either. He looks good for his age. He’s already survived 2 heart attacks. Hell, I think his mom is still alive.
And Johnny Gilbert, the show's only announcer since it first aired in 1984, is still doing his job at age 94.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: Mr. Matté on March 07, 2019, 12:21:52 PM
Can't believe he's 78.

Me either. He looks good for his age. He’s already survived 2 heart attacks. Hell, I think his mom is still alive.

That's true because I had sex with her lass-t week!
(https://i.gifer.com/2XXX.gif)
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on April 18, 2019, 07:37:06 PM
Brief update.

Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: kevinb1994 on April 18, 2019, 07:42:01 PM
Brief update.


Continued well-wishes for Mr. Trebek as he continues his treatment. Hopefully he can do more than Season 36.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: Henry on April 19, 2019, 02:47:59 PM
I'm pretty confident that he'll be around to do the show for as long as he can.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on May 02, 2019, 08:18:10 AM
For those that missed it, Alex was interviewed on Good Morning America yesterday.

Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on May 14, 2019, 07:46:35 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeopardy-host-alex-trebek-on-his-cancer-diagnosis/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeopardy-host-alex-trebek-on-his-cancer-diagnosis/)
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on May 29, 2019, 10:39:52 AM
He’s close to remission. :thumbsup:

https://people.com/health/alex-trebek-pancreatic-cancer-near-remission/ (https://people.com/health/alex-trebek-pancreatic-cancer-near-remission/)
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: US71 on May 29, 2019, 11:31:26 AM
He’s close to remission. :thumbsup:

https://people.com/health/alex-trebek-pancreatic-cancer-near-remission/ (https://people.com/health/alex-trebek-pancreatic-cancer-near-remission/)

Cautiously optimistic.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: roadman65 on May 29, 2019, 01:24:07 PM
Gregg Allman was confident he was going to make it and look what happened to him.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on August 30, 2019, 08:08:51 AM
Back for Season 36.

Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: US71 on September 06, 2019, 10:17:24 PM
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on September 17, 2019, 02:07:49 PM
Aaaand he's back to chemo...

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/jeopardy-host-alex-trebek-undergoing-chemotherapy-numbers-sky-65651536 (https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/jeopardy-host-alex-trebek-undergoing-chemotherapy-numbers-sky-65651536)

Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: Henry on September 18, 2019, 10:19:37 AM
Now all we can do is hope that he makes it through Season 36.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on October 07, 2019, 12:35:13 PM
Now all we can do is hope that he makes it through Season 36.

It's beginning to look unlikely.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/alex-trebek-tells-lisa-laflamme-i-m-not-afraid-of-dying-1.4625438 (https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/alex-trebek-tells-lisa-laflamme-i-m-not-afraid-of-dying-1.4625438)
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: US71 on October 10, 2019, 12:30:40 PM
Now all we can do is hope that he makes it through Season 36.

It's beginning to look unlikely.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/alex-trebek-tells-lisa-laflamme-i-m-not-afraid-of-dying-1.4625438 (https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/alex-trebek-tells-lisa-laflamme-i-m-not-afraid-of-dying-1.4625438)

He's putting up a good fight, but I'm beginning to wonder if he'll survive the season. If he does, I suspect he will retire early.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on March 04, 2020, 05:59:07 PM
Alex just gave a one-year update.

Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: Life in Paradise on March 05, 2020, 11:56:36 AM
He definitely fights with class and tenacity.  Most of us have no idea of the struggles behind the scenes so that he keeps going.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on July 16, 2020, 07:52:12 PM
New update.

Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: US71 on July 16, 2020, 08:15:09 PM
I wonder if he hears "A Time for Tony" in his sleep ;)
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: Takumi on November 08, 2020, 12:47:56 PM
The Guardian has reported that Alex has lost his battle. Sad news.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/nov/08/alex-trebek-host-jeopardy-dies
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: cabiness42 on November 08, 2020, 01:05:35 PM
The Guardian has reported that Alex has lost his battle. Sad news.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/nov/08/alex-trebek-host-jeopardy-dies

Sad indeed. I wonder how many more episodes were shot before he died. It will be weird watching them. Also wondering who replaces him.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on November 08, 2020, 01:53:18 PM
The Guardian has reported that Alex has lost his battle. Sad news.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/nov/08/alex-trebek-host-jeopardy-dies

Sad indeed. I wonder how many more episodes were shot before he died. It will be weird watching them. Also wondering who replaces him.

According to this article, there are no current plans to announce a new host. The last time Alex was in the studio was on Oct. 29.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alex-trebek-beloved-jeopardy-host-dies-after-cancer-battle-age-n990066 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alex-trebek-beloved-jeopardy-host-dies-after-cancer-battle-age-n990066)
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: STLmapboy on November 08, 2020, 01:55:00 PM
RIP
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: 1995hoo on November 08, 2020, 03:29:22 PM
The Guardian has reported that Alex has lost his battle. Sad news.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/nov/08/alex-trebek-host-jeopardy-dies

Sad indeed. I wonder how many more episodes were shot before he died. It will be weird watching them. Also wondering who replaces him.

The report I heard on the radio said new episodes with him will air thru approximately Christmas.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: US71 on November 08, 2020, 09:13:12 PM
The Guardian has reported that Alex has lost his battle. Sad news.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/nov/08/alex-trebek-host-jeopardy-dies

Sad indeed. I wonder how many more episodes were shot before he died. It will be weird watching them. Also wondering who replaces him.

The report I heard on the radio said new episodes with him will air thru approximately Christmas.

Multiple sources on Fakebook say Christmas Day.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: roadman65 on November 10, 2020, 06:03:25 PM
https://apple.news/ASqnK_FDRQEe8iKjcU-VI2Q

RIP Alex
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: jeffandnicole on November 10, 2020, 06:32:47 PM
On Philadelphia's 6ABC Action News Facebook Page, they posted a short video clip recorded a few weeks ago that was to be played during the annual Thanksgiving Day Celebration (rather than a parade this year). 

https://6abc.com/entertainment/alexs-last-message-for-the-delaware-valley/7772369/
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on November 23, 2020, 09:00:28 PM
Looks like Ken Jennings will be the first interim host.

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ken-jennings-will-be-first-interim-jeopardy-host-following-death-n1248722 (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ken-jennings-will-be-first-interim-jeopardy-host-following-death-n1248722)
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: 1 on November 23, 2020, 09:05:06 PM
Looks like Ken Jennings will be the first interim host.

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ken-jennings-will-be-first-interim-jeopardy-host-following-death-n1248722 (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ken-jennings-will-be-first-interim-jeopardy-host-following-death-n1248722)

Fun fact: Ken Jennings has made 7 posts on this forum.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=1285
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: kkt on November 24, 2020, 05:50:10 PM
Looks like Ken Jennings will be the first interim host.

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ken-jennings-will-be-first-interim-jeopardy-host-following-death-n1248722 (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ken-jennings-will-be-first-interim-jeopardy-host-following-death-n1248722)

Fun fact: Ken Jennings has made 7 posts on this forum.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=1285

Hey, cool!
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: JoePCool14 on November 24, 2020, 08:56:21 PM
Looks like Ken Jennings will be the first interim host.

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ken-jennings-will-be-first-interim-jeopardy-host-following-death-n1248722 (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ken-jennings-will-be-first-interim-jeopardy-host-following-death-n1248722)

Fun fact: Ken Jennings has made 7 posts on this forum.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=1285

Now that's what I call a fun fact. It would be amusing to see AARoads actually show up on a Jeopardy question.

Also, because I have not said so yet, Rest in Peace, Mr. Trebek.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: US71 on November 24, 2020, 09:30:50 PM
Looks like Ken Jennings will be the first interim host.

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ken-jennings-will-be-first-interim-jeopardy-host-following-death-n1248722 (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ken-jennings-will-be-first-interim-jeopardy-host-following-death-n1248722)

Fun fact: Ken Jennings has made 7 posts on this forum.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=1285

Now that's what I call a fun fact. It would be amusing to see AARoads actually show up on a Jeopardy question.

Also, because I have not said so yet, Rest in Peace, Mr. Trebek.

AARoads may offer a question (Route 66 related or something similar), but a direct reference I have my doubts.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: LM117 on November 26, 2020, 08:08:51 PM
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Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: US71 on November 26, 2020, 11:25:52 PM
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I wonder if they will flash "pre-recorded" on the screen like Hollywood Squares did for Wally Cox and Charlie Weaver.? (http://[tweet)
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: iowahighways on November 27, 2020, 11:14:02 AM
I wonder if they will flash "pre-recorded" on the screen like Hollywood Squares did for Wally Cox and Charlie Weaver.?

On the episodes that have aired so far, they haven’t. But each episode has a dedication to Trebek at the end.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: michravera on November 27, 2020, 02:37:09 PM
I wonder if they will flash "pre-recorded" on the screen like Hollywood Squares did for Wally Cox and Charlie Weaver.?

On the episodes that have aired so far, they haven’t. But each episode has a dedication to Trebek at the end.

I'm hoping that Brooke Burns, host of "Dog Eat Dog", "The Chase", and "Masterminds" will get the gig when all is said and done. When I saw Ken do a category, his delivery was what I thought was too slow for the pace or Jeopardy!. Anne Robins, British host, or Jane Lynch, the current host of "The Weakest Link" would both be good as well. Brooke, Anne, and Jane all can read clues fast enough and slow enough and can do interviews as well as explain rules of the game. Brooke and Anne have had the good experience of multi-lingual clues and I am sure that Jane could do so as well with a little advanced preparation.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: wanderer2575 on November 27, 2020, 03:32:41 PM
^^  It's about more than just reading the answers and explaining the rules.  Alex's will be difficult shoes to fill because he (I think uniquely) demonstrated two completely different personalities simultaneously:  He was a seemingly aloof, authoritarian master over the show, maybe even showing a little superiority in overpronouncing accents and foreign words.  But at the same time, he had genuine warmth, often cracking a joke with (not at) a contestant and putting him or her at ease, and he never belittled a contestant. 

I haven't seen the current iteration of The Weakest Link, but the host of the original behaved (by design) like a snot and I assume that quality has carried over.  Hardly the appropriate persona for what Jeopardy watchers are accustomed to.  Ken Jennings brings immediate recognition value but that won't count for much very long if he doesn't have the game show host skills.  And it really is a skill.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: Scott5114 on November 27, 2020, 06:05:56 PM
When I saw Ken do a category, his delivery was what I thought was too slow for the pace or Jeopardy!.

One category is nowhere near enough to judge someone's hosting abilities. Finding the proper pacing and way of melding your personal style into the format is something that takes a few episodes at the very least. [ETA: Also, having looked up the relevant video on YouTube, he was standing in front of a green-screen in a series of prerecorded videos for those. They're not going to reflect a more natural delivery inherent to "doing it live", so to speak.]

Hell, it took Drew Carey two seasons (or more, according to your taste) to shed the new-host awkwardness when he took over The Price Is Right. Part of that is because hosting TPIR is a few orders of magnitude more complex than Jeopardy! (and requires instant-recall of the rules of 75 different mini-games, some of which show up once every few months or so, whereas J! is the same thing every day), but I don't think judging someone's performance by one category is remotely close to fair.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: michravera on November 27, 2020, 11:45:07 PM
When I saw Ken do a category, his delivery was what I thought was too slow for the pace or Jeopardy!.

One category is nowhere near enough to judge someone's hosting abilities. Finding the proper pacing and way of melding your personal style into the format is something that takes a few episodes at the very least. [ETA: Also, having looked up the relevant video on YouTube, he was standing in front of a green-screen in a series of prerecorded videos for those. They're not going to reflect a more natural delivery inherent to "doing it live", so to speak.]

Hell, it took Drew Carey two seasons (or more, according to your taste) to shed the new-host awkwardness when he took over The Price Is Right. Part of that is because hosting TPIR is a few orders of magnitude more complex than Jeopardy! (and requires instant-recall of the rules of 75 different mini-games, some of which show up once every few months or so, whereas J! is the same thing every day), but I don't think judging someone's performance by one category is remotely close to fair.

I agree about the fairness of being judged by one category, but it's all that has aired. On the other hand, Brooke and Anne both have at least 10 years of experience and Jane has shown her abilities on 5 or 6 shows. I'd rather go with proven ability than stardom.

In broadcasting American Football, you go for the sportscaster first and the Football player or coach second. Of course, it's best to have someone (or a pair) who is both. But, sportscasters can do football with some preparation a lot better than football players can do sportscasting.

... and so, I would rather have a trivia gameshow host above a trivia legend who tries to host a trivia show. For that matter, I'd rather have the trivia host from Lily Macs in Sunnyvale (he's great, but I am sure that MGE can do better) than Ken Jennings.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: In_Correct on November 28, 2020, 12:13:28 AM

Ken Jennings:

It is impressive that Ken Jennings is a member of AARoads, and that he won game shows including Jeopardy!, but I have other people I wish to see as host.

Anne Robinson:

Well of course she is a snot on the prime time version of The Weakest Link. It helped make it remarkable. What I did not like to see is the silly "Reality" interviews of The Weakest Links. ... such as the guy that said he would get hurt now that he lost. ... W.T.F.

Even more impressive about Anne Robinson's personality is that she resembles Judge Judy Sheindlin but Anne is not as extreme. I often fantasize about similar celebrities / personalities wondering how they feel about each other.

John O'Hurley:

Remembering the energy that Art Fleming had, particularly in The All New Jeopardy! (which that article did not even mention, despite being an N.B.C. programme at the time) John O'Hurley can easily represent both of the Jeopardy! hosts.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: vdeane on November 28, 2020, 08:28:05 PM
What I did not like to see is the silly "Reality" interviews of The Weakest Links. ... such as the guy that said he would get hurt now that he lost. ... W.T.F.
Maybe the guy thought he was playing the Doctor Who version:
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: rickmastfan67 on November 28, 2020, 11:22:08 PM
Ken Jennings or Levar Burton would be my top 2 picks at the moment for Alex's replacement.  I personally wouldn't want somebody else that hosted another game show full time to be a replacement, as that would possibly bring too much baggage.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: In_Correct on November 30, 2020, 02:57:01 PM
Ken Jennings or Levar Burton would be my top 2 picks at the moment for Alex's replacement.  I personally wouldn't want somebody else that hosted another game show full time to be a replacement, as that would possibly bring too much baggage.

Levar Burton would be another great choice. ... Does Omarosa count as a full time game show host? and why not choose a former game show host?? Would the fans hate them???

Another possibility I wish them to have is if they could bring back multiple versions of the game show ... such as the Syndicated version, a Prime Time version, and a Network Day Time version for example ... each with a different host to see how well they like it.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: Scott5114 on November 30, 2020, 04:14:33 PM
and why not choose a former game show host?? Would the fans hate them???

The problem I can see is that Jeopardy! is a format from the 1960s that was revived in the 1980s, and functions like a game show of that era—that is, there are enough actual game mechanics going on to fill the whole episode, and the host's job is to facilitate the contestants' interactions with the game mechanics. The only fluff not having to do with the game is the contestant interviews at the start of Act 2.

Contrast this with the modern, post Who Wants To Be a Millionaire? style of game show, where you have about one fourth of the episode doing actual gameplay and the rest sitting around a dramatically-lit set trying to build tense moments. A host of that era of game show would do pretty poorly with Jeopardy!, because they require vastly different skill sets, so you'd basically be having to train someone from the ground up anyway. At that point you might as well just go with someone with good diction and no game show experience, like LeVar Burton.

The only game show hosts with any relevant experience are dead, retired—Wink Martindale is an excellent example of the game show host archetype of this era but is 86 years old—or hosting one of the few legacy formats still on the air: Pat Sajak of course, Drew Carey, and Wayne Brady. I wouldn't consider Family Feud adequate hosting experience for Jeopardy! because, as it was originally created as a vehicle for Richard Dawson, it's one of the weakest of all the Goodson-Todman formats, and is far more host-dependent than J! is.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: jeffandnicole on November 30, 2020, 05:24:47 PM
I think the issue with just staying with people that have already hosted game shows is that you'll eventually run out of people that have just hosted game shows. 

Along with Ken, I think a good, all around news person actually would be a good fit. They tend to have a steady, serious demeanor that would continue the approach Trebek had to hosting. The biggest issue with that, especially today, would be people have a tendency to play the politics card simply because of the network that person was on.

In referencing Drew Carey, I'm not sure I like him as host of TPIR, even after all these years. Although in fairness, maybe what I actually don't like is how the game show changed audiences, from an older aged audience to a younger aged audience, even though the show never did a single thing on their own that caused this to occur.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: US71 on November 30, 2020, 05:42:25 PM
and why not choose a former game show host?? Would the fans hate them???

The problem I can see is that Jeopardy! is a format from the 1960s that was revived in the 1980s, and functions like a game show of that era—that is, there are enough actual game mechanics going on to fill the whole episode, and the host's job is to facilitate the contestants' interactions with the game mechanics. The only fluff not having to do with the game is the contestant interviews at the start of Act 2.

Contrast this with the modern, post Who Wants To Be a Millionaire? style of game show, where you have about one fourth of the episode doing actual gameplay and the rest sitting around a dramatically-lit set trying to build tense moments. A host of that era of game show would do pretty poorly with Jeopardy!, because they require vastly different skill sets, so you'd basically be having to train someone from the ground up anyway. At that point you might as well just go with someone with good diction and no game show experience, like LeVar Burton.

The only game show hosts with any relevant experience are dead, retired—Wink Martindale is an excellent example of the game show host archetype of this era but is 86 years old—or hosting one of the few legacy formats still on the air: Pat Sajak of course, Drew Carey, and Wayne Brady. I wouldn't consider Family Feud adequate hosting experience for Jeopardy! because, as it was originally created as a vehicle for Richard Dawson, it's one of the weakest of all the Goodson-Todman formats, and is far more host-dependent than J! is.

There's Peter Marshall, but he's 94.

It's almost like good game hosts are from another generation.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: brad2971 on November 30, 2020, 05:53:38 PM
and why not choose a former game show host?? Would the fans hate them???

The problem I can see is that Jeopardy! is a format from the 1960s that was revived in the 1980s, and functions like a game show of that era—that is, there are enough actual game mechanics going on to fill the whole episode, and the host's job is to facilitate the contestants' interactions with the game mechanics. The only fluff not having to do with the game is the contestant interviews at the start of Act 2.

Contrast this with the modern, post Who Wants To Be a Millionaire? style of game show, where you have about one fourth of the episode doing actual gameplay and the rest sitting around a dramatically-lit set trying to build tense moments. A host of that era of game show would do pretty poorly with Jeopardy!, because they require vastly different skill sets, so you'd basically be having to train someone from the ground up anyway. At that point you might as well just go with someone with good diction and no game show experience, like LeVar Burton.

The only game show hosts with any relevant experience are dead, retired—Wink Martindale is an excellent example of the game show host archetype of this era but is 86 years old—or hosting one of the few legacy formats still on the air: Pat Sajak of course, Drew Carey, and Wayne Brady. I wouldn't consider Family Feud adequate hosting experience for Jeopardy! because, as it was originally created as a vehicle for Richard Dawson, it's one of the weakest of all the Goodson-Todman formats, and is far more host-dependent than J! is.

There's Peter Marshall, but he's 94.

It's almost like good game hosts are from another generation.

Alfonso Ribeiro would be an underrated Jeopardy! host.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: In_Correct on November 30, 2020, 10:14:00 PM

About Family Feud:

Perhaps, but the Fast Money round requires them to read it quickly.

About From Another Generation:

Bob Eubanks is 82 - 83.

David Ruprecht just turned 72.

Ross Shafer turns 66 next week.

Chuck Woolery is 79 - 80.

...

Tom Kennedy died one month before Alex Trebek.

About Broadcasters:

Gordon Elliott just turned 64. Unlikely to return as a game show host and instead be came a producer for day time talk shows.

Kevin O'Connell just turned 72. He seems to be retired, and was a game show host for only a few weeks. He spent most of his time as a Meteorologist.

Lynn Swann is 68 - 69. ... This host is interesting as he paneled and later hosted To Tell The Truth with Alex Trebek taking over.

Robin Ward is 76 - 77 ... a Canadian. and a Meteorologist.

Using Journalists, Meteorologists, and Sportscasters as game show hosts has been done several times.

About The Price Is Right:

Rich Fields is also a Meteorologist.

In defense of Drew Carey, he resembles Bill Cullen, but this is a coincidence.

About Fluff In Game Shows:

Not every classic game show is filled with Questions And Answers. Or even Panels. Truth Or Consequences is one. Beat The Clock is another. Another very good example is: Treasure Hunt.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: michravera on December 01, 2020, 11:58:39 AM
and why not choose a former game show host?? Would the fans hate them???

The problem I can see is that Jeopardy! is a format from the 1960s that was revived in the 1980s, and functions like a game show of that era—that is, there are enough actual game mechanics going on to fill the whole episode, and the host's job is to facilitate the contestants' interactions with the game mechanics. The only fluff not having to do with the game is the contestant interviews at the start of Act 2.

Contrast this with the modern, post Who Wants To Be a Millionaire? style of game show, where you have about one fourth of the episode doing actual gameplay and the rest sitting around a dramatically-lit set trying to build tense moments. A host of that era of game show would do pretty poorly with Jeopardy!, because they require vastly different skill sets, so you'd basically be having to train someone from the ground up anyway. At that point you might as well just go with someone with good diction and no game show experience, like LeVar Burton.

The only game show hosts with any relevant experience are dead, retired—Wink Martindale is an excellent example of the game show host archetype of this era but is 86 years old—or hosting one of the few legacy formats still on the air: Pat Sajak of course, Drew Carey, and Wayne Brady. I wouldn't consider Family Feud adequate hosting experience for Jeopardy! because, as it was originally created as a vehicle for Richard Dawson, it's one of the weakest of all the Goodson-Todman formats, and is far more host-dependent than J! is.

There's Peter Marshall, but he's 94.

It's almost like good game hosts are from another generation.

Alfonso Ribeiro would be an underrated Jeopardy! host.

I missed Alfonso Ribeiro as a possible host. He has hosted a "lockout" format game show also, "Catch 21" and was great at it. In my opinion, "slow solo game" and "take turns" format game show hosts need not apply.  "The Weakest Link" is a "fast solo" format. "MasterMinds" is a "lockout" format. So is part of "The Chase" and so was "Dog Eat Dog". Small parts of "Family Feud" and "Wheel" are lockout also. However, "Wheel" doesn't require questions to be asked during the lockout.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: golden eagle on December 03, 2020, 09:50:05 PM
Someone mentioned Jane Lynch as a possible replacement. Not a bad idea. Though she has a daily show of her own, how about Ellen Degeneres?

I’m not expecting Pat Sajak to die or retire anytime soon, but who would be a good replacement for him on Wheel of Fortune? Would Vanna White stay or leave when Pat’s gone?
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: US71 on December 03, 2020, 09:54:50 PM
Someone mentioned Jane Lynch as a possible replacement. Not a bad idea. Though she has a daily show of her own, how about Ellen Degeneres?

I’m not expecting Pat Sajak to die or retire anytime soon, but who would be a good replacement for him on Wheel of Fortune? Would Vanna White stay or leave when Pat’s gone?

Ellen is a bit controversial.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: cabiness42 on December 04, 2020, 07:27:15 AM
It's really important for Jeopardy to get this right the first time and not end up with a series of hosts that leave or get pushed out after a year or two.

There is an opportunity to expand the audience, so the new host should be younger, and if it's a person of color and/or a woman that will help as well.

If Jane Lynch were younger she'd be the perfect fit. Her harsh persona from Glee and Weakest Link wouldn't play on Jeopardy but that's just a shtick and she could easily leave that behind. At 60, I don't know if she would want to take on something this big.

Ellen would be great at the job but realistically it would be a step down from the brand she's built up around her current shows so I can't imagine she would be interested.

Alfonso Ribeiro is the best idea I've heard so far. Previous experience, not tied down to anything huge right now, under 50.

An off-the-wall idea would be Mike Golic. Just ended his 20 year morning radio run and definitely has the personality for it. Not sure if he has enough name recognition outside the sports world though.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: brad2971 on December 04, 2020, 07:42:39 AM
Someone mentioned Jane Lynch as a possible replacement. Not a bad idea. Though she has a daily show of her own, how about Ellen Degeneres?

I’m not expecting Pat Sajak to die or retire anytime soon, but who would be a good replacement for him on Wheel of Fortune? Would Vanna White stay or leave when Pat’s gone?

Ellen is a bit controversial.

In this day and age, Ellen is no more controversial than Pat Sajak is. Speaking of Pat, his name and persona (along with Vanna White's) is much more tied to "Wheel of Fortune" than Alex Trebek was to Jeopardy! The TV business would likely have to let "Wheel of Fortune" die for a few years after Pat and Vanna leave the show together before Game Show Network tries to revive it on their app (we're about two years away from live/ondemand streaming video becoming majority TV viewing, so best to start thinking apps as opposed to cable/broadcast channels for new talent).
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: In_Correct on December 04, 2020, 05:54:31 PM
Someone mentioned Jane Lynch as a possible replacement. Not a bad idea. Though she has a daily show of her own, how about Ellen Degeneres?

I’m not expecting Pat Sajak to die or retire anytime soon, but who would be a good replacement for him on Wheel of Fortune? Would Vanna White stay or leave when Pat’s gone?

Ellen is a bit controversial.

I agree about Ellen not being a good host for Jeopardy! also Jane. ... and  Alfonso Ribeiro is not ideal either.

Levar Burton, Lynn Swann, Omarosa, and perhaps Baron James would be good.

Mike Golic is not Off The Wall. He would be a good host as well. He reminds me of John O'Hurley and Tim Ryan.

If Pat Sajak is ever replaced: just replace him with Chuck Woolery. Pat Sajak is just as controversial, ... there is one episode from the early 21st Century where he could not handle an excited contestant. While the contestant was not disqualified, Pat seemed to call the police on him. Vanna would probably stay, just like Kelly Ripa.



Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: US71 on December 04, 2020, 06:01:18 PM
Someone mentioned Jane Lynch as a possible replacement. Not a bad idea. Though she has a daily show of her own, how about Ellen Degeneres?

I’m not expecting Pat Sajak to die or retire anytime soon, but who would be a good replacement for him on Wheel of Fortune? Would Vanna White stay or leave when Pat’s gone?

Ellen is a bit controversial.

I agree about Ellen not being a good host for Jeopardy! also Jane. ... and  Alfonso Ribeiro is not ideal either.

Levar Burton, Lynn Swann, Omarosa, and perhaps Baron James would be good.

Mike Golic is not Off The Wall. He would be a good host as well. He reminds me of John O'Hurley and Tim Ryan.

If Pat Sajak is ever replaced: just replace him with Chuck Woolery. Pat Sajak is just as controversial, ... there is one episode from the early 21st Century where he could not handle an excited contestant. While the contestant was not disqualified, Pat seemed to call the police on him. Vanna would probably stay, just like Kelly Ripa.



Woolery is 79...probably not a good fit for Wheel. Then again, Sajak is 74
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: Scott5114 on December 04, 2020, 07:30:01 PM
In this day and age, Ellen is no more controversial than Pat Sajak is.

Ellen is controversial, not because of her orientation (because, as you note, it's 2020 and who cares), but because it's come out how much of a douche she is to her staff.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: Big John on December 04, 2020, 08:47:53 PM
If Pat Sajak is ever replaced: just replace him with Chuck Woolery. Pat Sajak is just as controversial, ... there is one episode from the early 21st Century where he could not handle an excited contestant. While the contestant was not disqualified, Pat seemed to call the police on him. Vanna would probably stay, just like Kelly Ripa.

Woolery was the emcee of Wheel of Fortune in the 1970s
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: In_Correct on December 05, 2020, 05:54:02 AM
Another good host would be Bob Bergen.

If Pat and even Vanna were to leave Wheel Of Fortune, perhaps David Sidoni and Tanika Ray.
Title: Re: Alex Trebek diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer
Post by: I-39 on December 05, 2020, 09:25:11 PM
If Pat and even Vanna were to leave Wheel Of Fortune, perhaps David Sidoni and Tanika Ray.

Pat and Vanna will never leave WOF. They are arguably even more iconic and it will never be the same once their gone.