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Title: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: RobbieL2415 on April 15, 2019, 10:29:07 PM
Here in CT we have a couple signs like this where a left on-ramp is place next to a right off-ramp.

Here.https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7536272,-72.6464466,3a,23.4y,172.36h,85.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3nze6cKgqIoXRwlTm5Ux_Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7536272,-72.6464466,3a,23.4y,172.36h,85.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3nze6cKgqIoXRwlTm5Ux_Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Here.https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7634329,-72.6381289,3a,15y,215.98h,86.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDSZGNmi8i22FZnCgEkP6bQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7634329,-72.6381289,3a,15y,215.98h,86.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDSZGNmi8i22FZnCgEkP6bQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

And here.https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7666776,-72.6853557,3a,15y,311.03h,91.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8_poTG0JLfIvwfokBQcRqA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7666776,-72.6853557,3a,15y,311.03h,91.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8_poTG0JLfIvwfokBQcRqA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Curious to see if other states do this.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: Big John on April 15, 2019, 10:52:32 PM
Prior to reconstruction of the Zoo Interchange in Milwaukee, there were signs on the prior on-ramps saying do not cross to the left-hand exits.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: stridentweasel on April 15, 2019, 11:27:17 PM
Westbound I-20 in Texas, as it merges with the southern/eastern end of I-635 and approaches the interchange with US 175, comes to mind:

https://goo.gl/maps/wpTAjdvomKu

In my opinion, this type of control would be better achieved with a physical barrier than a regulatory sign.  I have to wonder how strictly this is enforced.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: jakeroot on April 15, 2019, 11:36:40 PM
Couple examples on I-5 in Snohomish County, WA. All for HOV lanes to prevent weaving.

NO HOV EXIT TO [WA-525] [I-405] (http://bit.ly/2XlJywh)

[HOV] NO ACCESS TO EXIT 189 [WA-526 WEST] (http://bit.ly/2V6yyFg)

edit:

Another one in Seattle I forgot about: [NO EXIT TO OLIVE WAY ... ILLEGAL TO CROSS DOUBLE WHITE LINE] (http://bit.ly/2IpTJMW)
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: ibagli on April 16, 2019, 04:28:40 AM
There's one in Columbus (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9655715,-83.0208773,3a,75y,182.38h,90.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4m8jXmJ9a-3LUSUbJ0YaEQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) on OH-315 southbound, to stop traffic from trying to cross traffic entering from I-670. There also used to be one (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.956246,-82.9834682,3a,48.8y,204.22h,93t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDy2a6ponRlW0pLnUMqgh6g!2e0!5s20090701T000000!7i13312!8i6656) on I-71 southbound right before I-70, regarding an exit that has since been reconfigured.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 16, 2019, 04:33:03 AM
There used to be one of these in Arden Hills, MN, on the ramp from Snelling Ave SB to EB I-694, preventing immediate exit onto Lexington Ave. However, reconstruction of that section of I-694 in 2012/2013 eliminated that movement from Snelling to I-694 entirely.

Luckily there's one high-resolution series of GSV images (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0614566,-93.1579847,3a,17.6y,71.33h,86.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc38uHtrdJh5X1n29IcCHMw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) showing the sign.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: Great Lakes Roads on April 16, 2019, 04:40:16 AM
There's one in Columbus (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9655715,-83.0208773,3a,75y,182.38h,90.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4m8jXmJ9a-3LUSUbJ0YaEQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) on OH-315 southbound, to stop traffic from trying to cross traffic entering from I-670. There also used to be one (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.956246,-82.9834682,3a,48.8y,204.22h,93t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDy2a6ponRlW0pLnUMqgh6g!2e0!5s20090701T000000!7i13312!8i6656) on I-71 southbound right before I-70, regarding an exit that has since been reconfigured.

Found another one just south of downtown Columbus on I-71 from OH-315 southbound...
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9481844,-83.0160297,3a,15y,99.39h,92.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suEs4aa_vQycyDYfD218Cng!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

EDIT: Found one in Chicago on I-290...
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0571045,-88.0285217,3a,75y,200.86h,87.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVE-XlZ1LYD49tMlvSA0Vvw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: TheStranger on April 16, 2019, 05:20:51 AM
Along the Bayshore Freeway/US 101 in San Francisco, traffic coming in from the left hand side onramp from I-280 south is specifically directed not to merge multiple lanes into the Paul Avenue exit, but to use the following exit after that (Cow Palace/3rd Street/Bayshore Boulevard).

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7297124,-122.4035355,3a,25.3y,125.72h,93.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sefaPeOFixWk51qiuKYGUKw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: US 81 on April 16, 2019, 08:32:09 AM
Westbound I-20 in Texas, as it merges with the southern/eastern end of I-635 and approaches the interchange with US 175, comes to mind:

https://goo.gl/maps/wpTAjdvomKu

In my opinion, this type of control would be better achieved with a physical barrier than a regulatory sign.  I have to wonder how strictly this is enforced.

There used to be a few more around DFW that have been eliminated with all the freeway re-construction. 
The old Ft. Worth 'mixmaster' had several left and right exits/merges; traffic entering from northbound I-35W to westbound I-30 had signage telling them not to exit to Jones St. I saw that one being ignored so often I wondered why bother to sign if it (apparently) wasn't enforced.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: signalman on April 16, 2019, 10:26:38 AM
I can't think of an example of any such signage in New Jersey.  However, I can think of a local example with a physical barrier that prevents motorists to even attempt crossing I-287 in order to access either Parsippany Rd (CR 511) or Entin Road/Sylvan Way.  https://www.google.com/maps/@40.853703,-74.4235827,3a,76.6y,193.16h,83.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s16Qv5TfzFAKQRgRuQoWOFg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656.  I'm sure NJDOT is well aware that people wouldn't adhere to any such signage, so instead they just use a Jersey barrier.  The linked ramp is from I-80 WB to I-287 SB.  The above movements can be made via a local exit ramp, however, signage doesn't indicate such.  One must have some local road knowledge.  I also assume GPS would route a driver this way who wishes to access any of the above listed roads.  Since I don't use GPS myself I am merely guessing here and have no first-hand knowledge.  The local ramp I alluded to: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8633576,-74.4100262,3a,75y,280.4h,77.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjMj3IQH4KS16gg-9BOPR9Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
  And at the gore: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8657104,-74.4137958,3a,75y,295.06h,90.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8HVcgdgH75AVM45zjaIadg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: roadman on April 16, 2019, 11:23:27 AM
The ramp from I-291 west to I-91 south has "Access to Exit 7 Prohibited" signs.  As part of the Springfield Viaduct project, these signs have been supplemented by a Jersey barrier between lanes, which now makes it physically impossible for traffic to go from this ramp to Exit 7.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: Rothman on April 16, 2019, 11:53:22 AM
There used to be one of these in Arden Hills, MN, on the ramp from Snelling Ave SB to EB I-694, preventing immediate exit onto Lexington Ave. However, reconstruction of that section of I-694 in 2012/2013 eliminated that movement from Snelling to I-694 entirely.

Luckily there's one high-resolution series of GSV images (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0614566,-93.1579847,3a,17.6y,71.33h,86.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc38uHtrdJh5X1n29IcCHMw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) showing the sign.
I thought there was a sign like this on I-35W SB south of downtown Minneapolis.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 16, 2019, 12:11:55 PM
I thought there was a sign like this on I-35W SB south of downtown Minneapolis.

There may have been at one time (not sure where it would've been…), but chances are it's probably gone now with all the construction (past or present) on I-35W.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: hbelkins on April 16, 2019, 02:12:33 PM
There once was one on I-75 northbound in Cincinnati approaching I-74. I think the ramp was for I-74, but it used the grade of I-75 and there were signs saying "No Access to I-75" with there being no physical divider, only a thick white painted line. I"m not sure if this is still the case or not, as I haven't been on that section of I-75 in years.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: Brandon on April 16, 2019, 04:01:50 PM
EDIT: Found one in Chicago on I-290...
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0571045,-88.0285217,3a,75y,200.86h,87.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVE-XlZ1LYD49tMlvSA0Vvw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

There's a few more:

I-355 South at Boughton Road: https://goo.gl/maps/r66rEVXeLYz
I-290 West at Morgan Street (no longer exists): https://goo.gl/maps/GGPboQHqqdL2
I-90/94 West entry from 18th Street: https://goo.gl/maps/8f1pGytwoBL2
I-94 West at Deerfield Road: https://goo.gl/maps/SQdn6Fqx7HG2
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: frankenroad on April 16, 2019, 04:24:09 PM
There once was one on I-75 northbound in Cincinnati approaching I-74. I think the ramp was for I-74, but it used the grade of I-75 and there were signs saying "No Access to I-75" with there being no physical divider, only a thick white painted line. I"m not sure if this is still the case or not, as I haven't been on that section of I-75 in years.

That section of I-75 was majorly overhauled a couple years ago and that sign (and the need for it) have gone away.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: 1995hoo on April 16, 2019, 06:21:03 PM
The Inner Loop of the Capital Beltway (I-495) at I-66 (old Exit 9, now Exit 49) long had two exit ramps, one on the left and a loop ramp further along on the right. (The left-side ramp was the original exit, though it was reconfigured over the years.) Traffic entering at the previous interchange (US-50) saw a ground-mounted BGS telling them (but not requiring them) to use the right-side exit, this because using the left exit required changing across four lanes of traffic in under a mile. Didn’t matter: More than 75% of drivers forced their way over to the left-side ramp. The HO/T project solved the problem because the left exit is now for the HO/T lanes only and people entering from Route 50 have no access to it.

No Google Street View available—it goes back to 2012 a few months before the HO/T lanes opened and by then access to the left exit was closed during the construction.


(Edited to fill in a missing word. I typed the original post on my phone on the subway and the rocking motion was making it hard to type.)
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: GaryV on April 16, 2019, 07:47:03 PM
Davison Freeway (M-8) westbound ramp from Woodward:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4019393,-83.1000831,3a,75y,237.01h,82.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sz0r0nPRYml-O4RO6TKePnQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: ErmineNotyours on April 17, 2019, 12:03:25 AM
Couple examples on I-5 in Snohomish County, WA. All for HOV lanes to prevent weaving.

NO HOV EXIT TO [WA-525] [I-405] (http://bit.ly/2XlJywh)

[HOV] NO ACCESS TO EXIT 189 [WA-526 WEST] (http://bit.ly/2V6yyFg)

edit:

Another one in Seattle I forgot about: [NO EXIT TO OLIVE WAY ... ILLEGAL TO CROSS DOUBLE WHITE LINE] (http://bit.ly/2IpTJMW)

You got to most of the ones I was going to use, except:

◊ NO EXIT TO [SR-518] BURIEN SEA-TAC AIRPORT (https://goo.gl/maps/PLBLitHp6THT98jc7)
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: lepidopteran on April 17, 2019, 12:02:26 PM
There used to be one like that in Dayton, OH, on I-75 SB.  The on-ramp from Keowee St. had a black-on-white sign (IIRC) that read something like "No Exit to [SR-4 shield] Webster St.", since the Route 4 was a left exit at the time.  I'm not sure, but I think there was a similar sign for SR-4 traffic heading into I-75 SB (on the left) to not get off at Main St./SR-48.  In any event, since the infamous "Malfunction Junction" interchange was completely reconstructed, the sign is long gone because (1) the SR-4 ramp was moved to the right-hand side, and (2) the Keowee St. ramp was eliminated altogether.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: NE2 on April 17, 2019, 01:49:27 PM
I think I've seen these in Nashville.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: jakeroot on April 17, 2019, 02:45:30 PM
You got to most of the ones I was going to use, except:

◊ NO EXIT TO [SR-518] BURIEN SEA-TAC AIRPORT (https://goo.gl/maps/PLBLitHp6THT98jc7)

Ahh, of course. That's only the one I see the most. :banghead:
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: txstateends on April 17, 2019, 02:59:24 PM
A ramp to I-45 in downtown Dallas has a small sign before you get on to I-45 (a left-side on-ramp, BTW) about not exiting to I-30.

https://goo.gl/maps/jRCDCaQdmypDxbxt9
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: ErmineNotyours on April 17, 2019, 09:45:47 PM
You got to most of the ones I was going to use, except:

◊ NO EXIT TO [SR-518] BURIEN SEA-TAC AIRPORT (https://goo.gl/maps/PLBLitHp6THT98jc7)

Ahh, of course. That's only the one I see the most. :banghead:

Here's another: ACCESS TO SR520 PROHIBITED (https://goo.gl/maps/8WdETns9jUiRENZn7)
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: bassoon1986 on April 20, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
Westbound I-20 in Texas, as it merges with the southern/eastern end of I-635 and approaches the interchange with US 175, comes to mind:

https://goo.gl/maps/wpTAjdvomKu

In my opinion, this type of control would be better achieved with a physical barrier than a regulatory sign.  I have to wonder how strictly this is enforced.

I always found this one interesting because I-20 WB traffic cannot access one of its own exits. Although historically, 20 was on what is now 635 headed southwest.


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Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: TheHighwayMan394 on April 20, 2019, 12:43:44 PM
There used to be one of these in Arden Hills, MN, on the ramp from Snelling Ave SB to EB I-694, preventing immediate exit onto Lexington Ave. However, reconstruction of that section of I-694 in 2012/2013 eliminated that movement from Snelling to I-694 entirely.

Luckily there's one high-resolution series of GSV images (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0614566,-93.1579847,3a,17.6y,71.33h,86.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc38uHtrdJh5X1n29IcCHMw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) showing the sign.
I thought there was a sign like this on I-35W SB south of downtown Minneapolis.

There is still an extant one in Duluth warning traffic entering southbound I-35 from Central Ave not to cross to the MN 23/Grand Ave left exit.

I thought there was a sign like this on I-35W SB south of downtown Minneapolis.

There may have been at one time (not sure where it would've been…), but chances are it's probably gone now with all the construction (past or present) on I-35W.

There was a DO NOT CROSS TO LYNDALE AVE EXIT in the bad old days of the Crosstown Commons. That’s probably the one.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 20, 2019, 01:40:02 PM
I thought there was a sign like this on I-35W SB south of downtown Minneapolis.
There may have been at one time (not sure where it would've been…), but chances are it's probably gone now with all the construction (past or present) on I-35W.
There was a DO NOT CROSS TO LYNDALE AVE EXIT in the bad old days of the Crosstown Commons. That’s probably the one.

That's where I figured it would be if it existed, but I wasn't sure enough to say. The Crosstown began reconstruction around the time I got my license, so I never got to drive the old configuration (for better or worse!)
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: CtrlAltDel on April 20, 2019, 03:00:31 PM
There's a few more:
I-355 South at Boughton Road: https://goo.gl/maps/r66rEVXeLYz
I-290 West at Morgan Street (no longer exists): https://goo.gl/maps/GGPboQHqqdL2
I-90/94 West entry from 18th Street: https://goo.gl/maps/8f1pGytwoBL2
I-94 West at Deerfield Road: https://goo.gl/maps/SQdn6Fqx7HG2

There's also one on I-88 in Oak Brook.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/29pbz9d.jpg)
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: jay8g on April 21, 2019, 01:52:31 AM
Another Seattle one, which seems rather stating the obvious to me...

NO ACCESS TO EXPRESS LANES (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.7059875,-122.3303084,3a,39.2y,166.84h,84.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syisM-kTzqw3uLzjTkC-MgQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: Rothman on April 21, 2019, 11:12:25 AM
There used to be one of these in Arden Hills, MN, on the ramp from Snelling Ave SB to EB I-694, preventing immediate exit onto Lexington Ave. However, reconstruction of that section of I-694 in 2012/2013 eliminated that movement from Snelling to I-694 entirely.

Luckily there's one high-resolution series of GSV images (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0614566,-93.1579847,3a,17.6y,71.33h,86.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc38uHtrdJh5X1n29IcCHMw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) showing the sign.
I thought there was a sign like this on I-35W SB south of downtown Minneapolis.

There is still an extant one in Duluth warning traffic entering southbound I-35 from Central Ave not to cross to the MN 23/Grand Ave left exit.

I thought there was a sign like this on I-35W SB south of downtown Minneapolis.

There may have been at one time (not sure where it would've been…), but chances are it's probably gone now with all the construction (past or present) on I-35W.

There was a DO NOT CROSS TO LYNDALE AVE EXIT in the bad old days of the Crosstown Commons. That’s probably the one.
I believe the Lyndale sign is the one I was remembering.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: Truvelo on April 23, 2019, 05:45:52 PM
I have on more than one occasion entered EWR airport by joining US 1-9 southbound from Haynes Avenue and then swooped across to the left exit to the airport. I don't recall seeing any signs banning this movement.
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: wanderer2575 on April 25, 2019, 12:16:09 AM
Three of the four left exit/left entrance ramps at the I-94/M-10 interchange in downtown Detroit prohibit exiting at the next right exit.  It's commonly ignored; it's not at all unusual to see a vehicle cutting across three lanes in less than a quarter mile.  The northbound to westbound ramp has no such prohibition posted, perhaps because the next right exit is 3/4 mile away.

https://goo.gl/maps/NXY7gcx2yipRGQEG6
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: Brian556 on April 25, 2019, 12:53:08 AM
All these locations they put up signs saying you cant cross multiple lanes in a short distance. Yet, TxDOT thought it was ok to make exiting drivers cross three frontage road lanes in a very short distance to turn right. This is just absurd.
I-635 EB SH 289 (Preston Rd) https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9253637,-96.8058822,3a,22.9y,101.18h,86.25t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sy3FQtp3TDKAGLeQt6Redvw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dy3FQtp3TDKAGLeQt6Redvw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D280.55777%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9253637,-96.8058822,3a,22.9y,101.18h,86.25t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sy3FQtp3TDKAGLeQt6Redvw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dy3FQtp3TDKAGLeQt6Redvw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D280.55777%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100)

Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 25, 2019, 05:58:32 AM
All these locations they put up signs saying you cant cross multiple lanes in a short distance. Yet, TxDOT thought it was ok to make exiting drivers cross three frontage road lanes in a very short distance to turn right. This is just absurd.
I-635 EB SH 289 (Preston Rd) https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9253637,-96.8058822,3a,22.9y,101.18h,86.25t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sy3FQtp3TDKAGLeQt6Redvw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dy3FQtp3TDKAGLeQt6Redvw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D280.55777%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9253637,-96.8058822,3a,22.9y,101.18h,86.25t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sy3FQtp3TDKAGLeQt6Redvw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dy3FQtp3TDKAGLeQt6Redvw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D280.55777%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100)



You mean, like so (I simply turned the GSV rom the link above around): https://goo.gl/maps/eAhVhW5MqJ9iBCsEA
Title: Re: "No crossing to Exit X"
Post by: jakeroot on April 25, 2019, 12:43:18 PM
I don't remember where it was, but I remember one downtown Dallas frontage-road weave that was basically just a free-for-all. Cars were all over the road, no following of lane lines whatsoever.