Never have I seen so many driving failures in one day on the interstate. It was like no one could do anything right, poor lane choices and more
https://youtu.be/q6DSs-trIzA
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I don't think honking continuously for 14 seconds accomplishes anything other than announce to the world that you're way, way too aggressive.
I like the bit about the drivers driving "unlawfully slow", yet the video has his speed indicated in yellow at the bottom of the frame and doesn't drop below 45 MPH the whole time.
Also I'm pretty sure I heard a sat-nav reading directions out. Guess Interstate driving is hard enough you need a computer telling you where to go...
Another U-Toob video to monetize ... :thumbdown:
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 18, 2021, 03:10:15 AM
I like the bit about the drivers driving "unlawfully slow", yet the video has his speed indicated in yellow at the bottom of the frame and doesn't drop below 45 MPH the whole time.
Because I move away from them before it does
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Also I'm pretty sure I heard a sat-nav reading directions out. Guess Interstate driving is hard enough you need a computer telling you where to go...
It's not that I don't know where to go, I just want the fastest way to where I'm going, plus it let's me know when slowdowns etc are coming up.
Quote from: Crash_It on January 17, 2021, 11:58:24 PM
Never have I seen so many driving failures in one day on the interstate. It was like no one could do anything right, poor lane choices and more
Wow, you expected Interstate driving in Chicago to be an experience in civility and predictability? See, I've never once expected that. Maybe that's the difference between you and good defensive drivers. I expect both fast and aggressive behavior from those who drive the highway every day and also sluggish and hesitant behavior from those who are unfamiliar with the area.
All of those poor lane choice maneuvers looked like completely normal driver behavior to me, the kind one
should fully expect to see on an urban highway like that. Last-second exits and blind or hesitant lane changes are very common in that sort of environment. Your unwillingness to accommodate them makes
you a threat to highway safety. By assuming they know you're not letting them over, you risk them side-swiping you. By continuing around them, you cause them to slow down even more, or even stop as the case may be, which means they end up impeding traffic even more than they would have if you had been polite and allowed them over.
Quote from: US 89 on January 18, 2021, 12:14:19 AM
I don't think honking continuously for 14 seconds accomplishes anything other than announce to the world that you're way, way too aggressive.
Oh, it can definitely accomplish other things too! Like causing other drivers to slow down unnecessarily because they think they're in imminent danger. Or causing other drivers to take their eyes off the road in order to find out what someone's honking that much about. Or startling another driver enough to make him or her jerk the steering wheel suddenly. All of which can actually
cause an accident.
I didn't see anything in that video that I would not expect to see on urban Interstates here in the DC area, in Miami, or in New York (the urban areas where I drive the most often). If anything, those drivers struck me as more courteous than I would expect: Most of them used their blinkers instead of just shoving over.
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 18, 2021, 12:09:26 PM
I didn't see anything in that video that I would not expect to see on urban Interstates here in the DC area, in Miami, or in New York (the urban areas where I drive the most often). If anything, those drivers struck me as more courteous than I would expect: Most of them used their blinkers instead of just shoving over.
Miami has the worst drivers:
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 30, 2013, 12:46:41 PM
Miami. I have driven in every major US metropolitan area larger than, oh approximately Branson, Missouri. so I think I have a good scientific basis for this opinion... and, trust me, folks, it's Miami.
Quote from: vtk on July 26, 2013, 09:29:02 AM
Quote from: realjd on July 25, 2013, 11:28:37 PM
Miami drivers aren't that bad once you get used to them
That's it right there. Good drivers are predictable drivers.
except Miami does not feature predictably bad driving. Oregon, for example, you can get used to the fact that people do 55mph three-abreast on the freeway.
Miami, however, you cannot get used to the driving, which includes such behavior as running a stop sign, pulling in front of you as to completely stop your progress, and getting out of the car to swear at you. go ahead and try to predict that!
DC should be similar to Miami in that you have people from everywhere. However, New York
should have better drivers than Chicago, at least according to Brandon.
Quote from: 1 on January 18, 2021, 12:13:31 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 18, 2021, 12:09:26 PM
I didn't see anything in that video that I would not expect to see on urban Interstates here in the DC area, in Miami, or in New York (the urban areas where I drive the most often). ...
Miami has the worst drivers:
To the extent that it's even relevant whether Miami is worse than DC or Chicago, it can't be said definitively that Miami
is worse.
Quote from: Crash_It on January 18, 2021, 04:06:30 AM
It's not that I don't know where to go, I just want the fastest way to where I'm going, plus it let's me know when slowdowns etc are coming up.
You have to have the computer tell you that instead of just looking at a map? Wow, I guess it
is that hard, huh?
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 18, 2021, 12:26:10 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on January 18, 2021, 04:06:30 AM
It's not that I don't know where to go, I just want the fastest way to where I'm going, plus it let's me know when slowdowns etc are coming up.
You have to have the computer tell you that instead of just looking at a map? Wow, I guess it is that hard, huh?
If there are two equally good ways to get there, but it's rush hour, a GPS is often helpful in telling you which one has less delay.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 11:58:23 AM
Wow, you expected Interstate driving in Chicago to be an experience in civility and predictability?
Why, of course! That's what draws people to Chicago's interstates in the first place, right?
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 11:58:23 AM
I expect both fast and aggressive behavior from those who drive the highway every day and also sluggish and hesitant behavior from those who are unfamiliar with the area.
I'm going to go even a step further:
Expect fast and aggressive behavior
and sluggish and hesitant behavior from those who drive the highway every day.
Expect sluggish and hesitant behavior
and fast and aggressive behavior from those who are unfamiliar with the area.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 11:58:23 AM
Quote from: US 89 on January 18, 2021, 12:14:19 AM
I don't think honking continuously for 14 seconds accomplishes anything other than announce to the world that you're way, way too aggressive.
Oh, it can definitely accomplish other things too!
I am guilty of honking continuously for a number of seconds... not sure if it was 14 though... at a location that appears to be somewhat similar to the one in the video. It was certainly an overreaction, and I've matured enough since then that I would handle it differently now;
however, no one who witnessed it could've possibly thought I was being aggressive. It was in response to someone trying to cut in at the last second after blowing past more than a mile of slow/stopped traffic.
Quote from: 1 on January 18, 2021, 12:36:45 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 18, 2021, 12:26:10 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on January 18, 2021, 04:06:30 AM
It's not that I don't know where to go, I just want the fastest way to where I'm going, plus it let's me know when slowdowns etc are coming up.
You have to have the computer tell you that instead of just looking at a map? Wow, I guess it is that hard, huh?
If there are two equally good ways to get there, but it's rush hour, a GPS is often helpful in telling you which one has less delay.
Yeah, but for someone who goes on the internet to complain about how Interstate driving is
so hard for some people, it should be easy to know, right? After all, he's apparently good enough at Interstate driving to judge others. He must know everything there is to know about it.
Quote from: renegade on January 18, 2021, 03:53:58 AM
Another U-Toob video to monetize ... :thumbdown:
I doubt that these videos are even monetized, though
Crash_It would need to confirm this. I have never received any form of ad before a video on his channel. Even if it is monetized, It probably doesn't draw that much money in, given the channel's statistics. Scrolling through the channel's videos, the highest viewcount was ~3k, though the average is much lower than that.
Be careful not to run out of horn juice.
Quote from: webny99 on January 18, 2021, 12:41:36 PM
I am guilty of honking continuously for a number of seconds... not sure if it was 14 though... at a location that appears to be somewhat similar to the one in the video. It was certainly an overreaction, and I've matured enough since then that I would handle it differently now; however, no one who witnessed it could've possibly thought I was being aggressive. It was in response to someone trying to cut in at the last second after blowing past more than a mile of slow/stopped traffic.
Chalk that one up as just another behavior I fully expect to see on the highway.
Quote from: stridentweasel on January 18, 2021, 12:50:46 PM
Be careful not to run out of horn juice.
Call it by the correct name: horn fluid. It runs out especially fast during cold weather, so
Crash_It might be due for a visit to the mechanic soon.
"Speeds up when I go to pass (unlawful)" cite statute please
While he was far too indecisive, you had the space to move over to let him in cleanly but for some reason chose not to. He was probably trying to figure out what you were doing.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 12:51:47 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 18, 2021, 12:41:36 PM
I am guilty of honking continuously for a number of seconds... It was in response to someone trying to cut in at the last second after blowing past more than a mile of slow/stopped traffic.
Chalk that one up as just another behavior I fully expect to see on the highway.
For me, the degree to which cutting in is acceptable depends on the specifics of the circumstance. It's almost always more acceptable on a surface street than it is on the freeway, with very little overlap. On the freeway, I'm only OK with it if you can do it smoothly without causing disruption to dozens of other drivers. But perhaps my view is too nuanced.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 18, 2021, 01:07:55 PM
"Speeds up when I go to pass (unlawful)" cite statute please
He's probably misinterpreting
625 ILCS 5/11-703(b) (https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=062500050HCh%2E+11+Art%2E+VII&ActID=1815&ChapterID=49&SeqStart=123900000&SeqEnd=125400000) and thinking it applies to Interstate highways.
It doesn't, because the first clause excludes them by virtue of 625 ILCS 5/11-704(a)2.
Quote from: webny99 on January 18, 2021, 01:10:41 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 12:51:47 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 18, 2021, 12:41:36 PM
I am guilty of honking continuously for a number of seconds... It was in response to someone trying to cut in at the last second after blowing past more than a mile of slow/stopped traffic.
Chalk that one up as just another behavior I fully expect to see on the highway.
For me, the degree to which cutting in is acceptable depends on the specifics of the circumstance. It's almost always more acceptable on a surface street than it is on the freeway, with very little overlap. On the freeway, I'm only OK with it if you can do it smoothly without causing disruption to dozens of other drivers. But perhaps my view is too nuanced.
In my experience, the reason it ends up being a "disruption to dozens of other drivers" is because the other drivers refuse to just let the guy in. If they did, he could merge at the same speed of traffic as the other lane, and only a couple of drivers would have to slow down any more than they were already going. It's when nobody lets him in that he ends up merging from 0 mph and the domino effect happens.
In the OP's video, I saw him refuse to let a guy in who was already slowing down on the left side of traffic and running out of room. That driver probably had to come to a complete stop or something very near it, which means the disruption behind
Crash-It's vehicle was likely more severe than if he had just tapped his brakes a little and let the guy over.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 01:30:40 PM
In my experience, the reason it ends up being a "disruption to dozens of other drivers" is because the other drivers refuse to just let the guy in. If they did, he could merge at the same speed of traffic as the other lane, and only a couple of drivers would have to slow down any more than they were already going. It's when nobody lets him in that he ends up merging from 0 mph and the domino effect happens.
Unless, of course, traffic is already going 0 mph or barely moving.
Quote from: webny99 on January 18, 2021, 03:42:39 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 01:30:40 PM
In my experience, the reason it ends up being a "disruption to dozens of other drivers" is because the other drivers refuse to just let the guy in. If they did, he could merge at the same speed of traffic as the other lane, and only a couple of drivers would have to slow down any more than they were already going. It's when nobody lets him in that he ends up merging from 0 mph and the domino effect happens.
Unless, of course, traffic is already going 0 mph or barely moving.
In which case, drivers should
definitely take turns letting each other go.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 04:06:08 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 18, 2021, 03:42:39 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 01:30:40 PM
In my experience, the reason it ends up being a "disruption to dozens of other drivers" is because the other drivers refuse to just let the guy in. If they did, he could merge at the same speed of traffic as the other lane, and only a couple of drivers would have to slow down any more than they were already going. It's when nobody lets him in that he ends up merging from 0 mph and the domino effect happens.
Unless, of course, traffic is already going 0 mph or barely moving.
In which case, drivers should definitely take turns letting each other go.
And block the traffic that isn't exiting?
Quote from: webny99 on January 18, 2021, 04:13:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 04:06:08 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 18, 2021, 03:42:39 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 01:30:40 PM
In my experience, the reason it ends up being a "disruption to dozens of other drivers" is because the other drivers refuse to just let the guy in. If they did, he could merge at the same speed of traffic as the other lane, and only a couple of drivers would have to slow down any more than they were already going. It's when nobody lets him in that he ends up merging from 0 mph and the domino effect happens.
Unless, of course, traffic is already going 0 mph or barely moving.
In which case, drivers should definitely take turns letting each other go.
And block the traffic that isn't exiting?
Yeah, I don't agree that traffic should be let into a queue if they are blocking lanes used by a different movement such as the thru movement. Those people should consider themselves as having missed their exit, and proceed straight and turn around.
We may have slightly different scenarios in mind, but... If we assume a single exit-only lane and the rest of the lanes are through-only, then... yeah, maybe the rightmost through lane would be better served that way. Depends on the situation
I'll give you a similar example that I use every day going home from work. The details are a little different, but bear with me...
This is southbound I-135 at the Kellogg interchange.
Black lines = I-135 SB through lanes
Blue line = Accel/Decel lane from 1st-2nd Streets to Kellogg WB
Red line = 'Normal' path to go from I-135 SB to Kellogg EB (my route home from work)
(https://i.imgur.com/sTRiGGK.png)
At rush hour, the ramp to Kellogg WB is often backed up, enough that the tailback frequently bleeds into the rightmost through lane of I-135 SB. It also makes merging onto I-135 SB from 1st-2nd Streets rather... ummm... exciting. The I-135 SB to Kellogg WB is a very heavy movement here during the afternoon rush, much heavier than than to Kellogg EB and probably fairly close to I-135 through-traffic.
It's quite common for drivers going my way (to Kellogg EB) to use the red line below instead.
(https://i.imgur.com/2rBQwaT.png)
They use the middle through lane until the last possible second–bypassing all the drivers stuck waiting to merge west–and then jump across the rightmost through lane into a nearly empty ramp. Occasionally, they have to slow down to around 35 or 40 mph to do it, but I assert that it's no more dangerous to do that than add their car to the congestion mess, where further slow-down could result in a rear-end collision on I-135. Some other drivers even do that 'modified' red line path and then merge into the blue line path once on the two-lane part of the exit ramp. Sometimes that means I have to slow down quite a bit, because they have to slow down quite a bit in order to merge west, but I'd rather have to do that than have the lane change happen on the interstate mainline.
OK, so that's all really confusing. My main point is that maybe the through lanes are better used to store exiting traffic if exiting traffic is substantially congested.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 12:52:51 PM
Quote from: stridentweasel on January 18, 2021, 12:50:46 PM
Be careful not to run out of horn juice.
Call it by the correct name: horn fluid. It runs out especially fast during cold weather, so Crash_It might be due for a visit to the mechanic soon.
Many modern vehicles have synthetic honking fluid, which is designed for the demands and rigors of today's first-world problems.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 04:41:24 PM
We may have slightly different scenarios in mind, but... If we assume a single exit-only lane and the rest of the lanes are through-only, then... yeah, maybe the rightmost through lane would be better served that way. Depends on the situation
I'll give you a similar example that I use every day going home from work. The details are a little different, but bear with me...
...
OK, so that's all really confusing. My main point is that maybe the through lanes are better used to store exiting traffic if exiting traffic is substantially congested.
Actually, it wasn't that confusing to me because I remember you mentioning this interchange previously in a similar context. It's actually almost identical to the situation where my immature, 18-year-old self honked at someone for 14 seconds (which, for reference, is right here (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1405121,-77.5410505,3a,32.3y,313.92h,93.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBAZinGlAzPAOf6iD5XaZEA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1)). Both are confusing situations that probably makes non-local drivers nervous even in light traffic, not to mention at rush hour.
As for the congestion, in my example and probably yours as well, it's a no-win situation. The ramp needs to be widened, but you can't dump two entrance lanes onto the 590 mainline, which is tricky enough as-is (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1438081,-77.5432672,3a,15y,34.99h,91.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfv2x5oRb5swnY0VvlzL10g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1). I know there's a happy medium between people cutting in at the last second and everyone going single file for two miles, but I haven't found it yet, so I'm really open to suggestions for how this should or could be handled.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 04:41:24 PM
It also makes merging onto I-135 SB from 1st-2nd Streets rather... ummm... exciting.
Same with my example for the traffic getting on at Penfield Road. The merging usually happens immediately where the entrance ramp joins the highway, and with so much traffic switching lanes, you've got a tricky, backup-prone weave -- which is, of course, possible to bypass altogether by keeping left until you're past the mess and then cramming your way in at the last second. That's what I can't stand.
Quote from: webny99 on January 18, 2021, 05:18:40 PM
The merging usually happens immediately where the entrance ramp joins the highway, and with so much traffic switching lanes, you've got a tricky, backup-prone weave -- which is, of course, possible to bypass altogether by keeping left until you're past the mess and then cramming your way in at the last second. That's what I can't stand.
I get it that a lot of people can't stand such behavior, but I remain unconvinced that it's either (a) a poor decision, considering the situation, or (b) all that bad for overall traffic flow.
Some people merge early, others merge late, and it's our job as drivers to expect and accommodate both as a normal part of highway driving.
For what it's worth, I have no guilty conscience when one lane of the Interstate is closed up ahead, a bazillion drivers all merge over a mile and a half in advance of the closure, and I get in front of them because I waited till farther down the line to merge over. Their jumping the gun and wasting their own time is no reason for me to do so and waste mine. But that's a topic for another thread and, indeed, has already been on here.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 18, 2021, 05:18:40 PM
... you've got a tricky, backup-prone weave -- which is, of course, possible to bypass altogether by keeping left until you're past the mess and then cramming your way in at the last second. That's what I can't stand.
I get it that a lot of people can't stand such behavior, but I remain unconvinced that it's either (a) a poor decision, considering the situation, or (b) all that bad for overall traffic flow.
Well, of course it's not a bad decision
for you... it saves a couple minutes on a good day and even more on a bad day. But it's not just bad for traffic flow... it's what causes the backups in the first place.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 05:48:36 PM
For what it's worth, I have no guilty conscience when one lane of the Interstate is closed up ahead, a bazillion drivers all merge over a mile and a half in advance of the closure, and I get in front of them because I waited till farther down the line to merge over. Their jumping the gun and wasting their own time is no reason for me to do so and waste mine. But that's a topic for another thread and, indeed, has already been on here.
Absolutely. I have no issues with that. I'm a big advocate of the zipper merge, especially in construction zones. The situation we've been talking about, though, is different because it involves streams of traffic on which the congestion has, at least theoretically, no bearing. Other drivers aren't necessarily just stuck in it anyways.
Quote from: webny99 on January 18, 2021, 08:28:30 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 18, 2021, 05:18:40 PM
... you've got a tricky, backup-prone weave -- which is, of course, possible to bypass altogether by keeping left until you're past the mess and then cramming your way in at the last second. That's what I can't stand.
I get it that a lot of people can't stand such behavior, but I remain unconvinced that it's either (a) a poor decision, considering the situation, or (b) all that bad for overall traffic flow.
Well, of course it's not a bad decision for you... it saves a couple minutes on a good day and even more on a bad day. But it's not just bad for traffic flow... it's what causes the backups in the first place.
In some places, I suppose. In others, no. At the Wichita example, the backup is caused by heavy traffic on the Kellogg mainline, plus all traffic from I-135 having to merge in at one point after just having merged into itself (SB and NB exiting traffic forming one lane). That is, the backup is due to something farther downstream than what we're talking about. By doing the "bad" thing, a "rogue" driver is actually shifting the potential conflict from the I-135 mainline onto the ramp. That, in my opinion, is actually preferable.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 09:05:50 PM
At the Wichita example, the backup is caused by heavy traffic on the Kellogg mainline, plus all traffic from I-135 having to merge in at one point after just having merged into itself (SB and NB exiting traffic forming one lane). That is, the backup is due to something farther downstream than what we're talking about. By doing the "bad" thing, a "rogue" driver is actually shifting the potential conflict from the I-135 mainline onto the ramp. That, in my opinion, is actually preferable.
That's an interesting distinction. My example doesn't have two ramps merging into one, but it does have more curvature and less generous sightlines. Drivers braking (usually unnecessarily) while trying to force their way in to the 590 mainline as they go around a curve also contributes to the backups.
The signage and lane markings, though, do seem to encourage merging before the first split. Unlike the Wichita example, each exit has its own sign (as seen in my first GSV link upthread), and there's a solid white line between the two lanes all the way from the original gore to where the ramps split. This is likely partly due to curvature and partly due to the length between the two splits: Your example is about 800 feet while the NY one is closer to 600 feet. I'd say your argument starts to make more sense once the distance between the two points exceeds 1000 feet, as in this San Antonio example (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.5318987,-98.4863212,3a,43.2y,142.16h,81.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRIEtiNgF09nilmwN09H8hQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), while it becomes borderline dangerous to have any merging
at all going on in cases where said zone is less than 500 feet, such as the opposite side of my example (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1442722,-77.5531969,3a,22.6y,119.14h,86.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdCnCY_do9k2mm-pSd5e9NQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) (I-490 EB to NY/I-590), which only has about 350 feet. I'd argue it's dangerous to be switching lanes at any point in those 350 feet, congestion or no congestion.
I just got a new dashcam! I almost certainly won't be using it to create this kind of post. Maybe I can use it to show people cool road configurations or bridges or landscapes or designs, and not complaints about other drivers. I've been thinking about maybe providing a walkthrough of how DDI's work? Anyway, there has to be better applications for dashcam usage.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on January 19, 2021, 10:46:55 AM
I just got a new dashcam! I almost certainly won't be using it to create this kind of post. Maybe I can use it to show people cool road configurations or bridges or landscapes or designs, and not complaints about other drivers. I've been thinking about maybe providing a walkthrough of how DDI's work? Anyway, there has to be better applications for dashcam usage.
We all hope so. Roadgeeking is a hobby, not an outlet for our frustrations.
I try to separate the frustrations of my commute from the joys of road travel for travel sake.
Quote from: ozarkman417 on January 18, 2021, 12:50:17 PM
Quote from: renegade on January 18, 2021, 03:53:58 AM
Another U-Toob video to monetize ... :thumbdown:
I doubt that these videos are even monetized, though Crash_It would need to confirm this. I have never received any form of ad before a video on his channel. Even if it is monetized, It probably doesn't draw that much money in, given the channel's statistics. Scrolling through the channel's videos, the highest viewcount was ~3k, though the average is much lower than that.
Not monetized yet. I'm 20 something subscribers short of that. The amount of views I get are far more than that. Prior to the changes I got 3 paychecks when I used to be monetized. I'm not putting these videos on here to solicit for subscribers. You like my content? You make the decision on your own as to whether or not to subscribe.
Quote from: Crash_It on January 19, 2021, 12:12:24 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on January 18, 2021, 12:50:17 PM
Quote from: renegade on January 18, 2021, 03:53:58 AM
Another U-Toob video to monetize ... :thumbdown:
I doubt that these videos are even monetized, though Crash_It would need to confirm this. I have never received any form of ad before a video on his channel. Even if it is monetized, It probably doesn't draw that much money in, given the channel's statistics. Scrolling through the channel's videos, the highest viewcount was ~3k, though the average is much lower than that.
Not monetized yet. I'm 20 something subscribers short of that. The amount of views I get are far more than that. Prior to the changes I got 3 paychecks when I used to be monetized. I'm not putting these videos on here to solicit for subscribers. You like my content? You make the decision on your own as to whether or not to subscribe.
Well, one actually constructive piece of criticism: Be sure you actually know the law before claiming people are breaking it.
This makes at least twice now that you've betrayed a misunderstanding of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Take it to heart that a guy 700 miles away, who hasn't lived in Illinois in thirteen years, knows the Illinois Vehicle Code better than you apparently do.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on January 19, 2021, 10:46:55 AM
I just got a new dashcam! I almost certainly won't be using it to create this kind of post. Maybe I can use it to show people cool road configurations or bridges or landscapes or designs, and not complaints about other drivers. I've been thinking about maybe providing a walkthrough of how DDI's work? Anyway, there has to be better applications for dashcam usage.
I use mine for that too... See this video
https://youtu.be/Me0XCJ5Bd-4
Quote from: kphoger on January 19, 2021, 12:15:50 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on January 19, 2021, 12:12:24 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on January 18, 2021, 12:50:17 PM
Quote from: renegade on January 18, 2021, 03:53:58 AM
Another U-Toob video to monetize ... :thumbdown:
I doubt that these videos are even monetized, though Crash_It would need to confirm this. I have never received any form of ad before a video on his channel. Even if it is monetized, It probably doesn't draw that much money in, given the channel's statistics. Scrolling through the channel's videos, the highest viewcount was ~3k, though the average is much lower than that.
Not monetized yet. I'm 20 something subscribers short of that. The amount of views I get are far more than that. Prior to the changes I got 3 paychecks when I used to be monetized. I'm not putting these videos on here to solicit for subscribers. You like my content? You make the decision on your own as to whether or not to subscribe.
Well, one actually constructive piece of criticism: Be sure you actually know the law before claiming people are breaking it.
This makes at least twice now that you've betrayed a misunderstanding of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Take it to heart that a guy 700 miles away, who hasn't lived in Illinois in thirteen years, knows the Illinois Vehicle Code better than you apparently do.
There were drivers being slow and not in the correct lane for doing so
Driving Under the minimum speed
Changing lanes over gore lines and without making sure it was clear to do so
Changing lanes without indicating
All of these are violations of the Illinois vehicle code.
I was referring to this:
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 01:19:30 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 18, 2021, 01:07:55 PM
"Speeds up when I go to pass (unlawful)" cite statute please
He's probably misinterpreting 625 ILCS 5/11-703(b) (https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=062500050HCh%2E+11+Art%2E+VII&ActID=1815&ChapterID=49&SeqStart=123900000&SeqEnd=125400000) and thinking it applies to Interstate highways.
It doesn't, because the first clause excludes them by virtue of 625 ILCS 5/11-704(a)2.
Speeding up while being passed is only illegal on two-lane highways. Not expressways.
Quote from: Crash_It on January 19, 2021, 12:19:40 PM
There were drivers being slow and not in the correct lane for doing so
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All of these are violations of the Illinois vehicle code.
Also, I'm unaware of any "correct lane for" "drivers being slow" according to the Illinois Vehicle Code. Please either (a) cite your reference and be prepared for the rest of us to evaluate your claim, or else (b) stop saying that's a thing.
The closest I know of is the requirement to stay out of the
left lane of a fully controlled-access highway unless there's no other vehicle directly behind the driver or if congestion etc. make it reasonable to be there [625 ILCS 5/11-701(d)—(e)]. Nothing about any lane to the right of the leftmost one.
I had an incident last night that would have been Crash-It worthy.
It's a 5-lane road (2 lanes each way, plus a center left turn lane). I'm coming up toward my turn, and preparing to move to the center lane. More than a block from the intersection, another car goes into the left turn lane and begins passing me. It was well before the yellow turn lane markings turn to a solid white. In fact, I think it was before the previous side street. Fortunately I saw the car before it was too late.
My reactions were quite different than what would be in a Crash-It video though. I didn't lay on the horn for multi-seconds. (I did semi-yell, "What are you doing?") Instead I simply took evasive action - put on the brakes, didn't move left, and let the other car go first. Done.
I remember a few years ago I was driving on I-75 northbound and everyone on the highway was doing about 77 to 80 miles an hour. All of the sudden we dropped to about 40 miles an hour for no reason at all other than some car in the middle Lane didn't know how to drive at highway speeds. I was screaming get fucking moving dumbass this is I-75 not your driveway.
Quote from: GaryV on January 19, 2021, 12:54:20 PM
I had an incident last night that would have been Crash-It worthy.
It's a 5-lane road (2 lanes each way, plus a center left turn lane). I'm coming up toward my turn, and preparing to move to the center lane. More than a block from the intersection, another car goes into the left turn lane and begins passing me. It was well before the yellow turn lane markings turn to a solid white. In fact, I think it was before the previous side street. Fortunately I saw the car before it was too late.
My reactions were quite different than what would be in a Crash-It video though. I didn't lay on the horn for multi-seconds. (I did semi-yell, "What are you doing?") Instead I simply took evasive action - put on the brakes, didn't move left, and let the other car go first. Done.
My wife learned to drive in Branson, where the Strip is a non-stop two-lane road with center TWLTL. Traffic gets so backed up there sometimes, that it's pretty common to drive more than a quarter-mile in the center lane, passing dozens of stopped vehicles, on the way to a left turn. So, in driver's ed, she was taught to ALWAYS check your mirror before moving into the TWLTL, because there's a good chance someone is coming up from behind you in it. That had never really occurred to me before meeting her, but it's now become SOP for me as well.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on January 19, 2021, 10:46:55 AM
I just got a new dashcam! I almost certainly won't be using it to create this kind of post. Maybe I can use it to show people cool road configurations or bridges or landscapes or designs, and not complaints about other drivers. I've been thinking about maybe providing a walkthrough of how DDI's work? Anyway, there has to be better applications for dashcam usage.
Looking forward to it! We need more cool roads and bridges, and less road rage.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2021, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 18, 2021, 05:18:40 PM
The merging usually happens immediately where the entrance ramp joins the highway, and with so much traffic switching lanes, you've got a tricky, backup-prone weave -- which is, of course, possible to bypass altogether by keeping left until you're past the mess and then cramming your way in at the last second. That's what I can't stand.
I get it that a lot of people can't stand such behavior, but I remain unconvinced that it's either (a) a poor decision, considering the situation, or (b) all that bad for overall traffic flow.
Some people merge early, others merge late, and it's our job as drivers to expect and accommodate both as a normal part of highway driving.
I just wanted to pop into say that I completely agree with your position here. I think a lot of people falsely assume that traffic only generates because of poor lane changing decisions, or rubber-band breaking, etc. While this kind of incidental congestion does occur, I think most traffic is actually caused by overall congestion: too many people trying to use one lane or road.
For an example very similar to your drawing above, I take you to
Southbound I-5 in Lakewood, WA (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1684695,-122.4749229,557m/data=!3m1!1e3). Traffic frequently backs up southbound along I-5 approaching WA-512 as, although it is a two-lane exit ramp, the exit-only portion of that two-lane exit only begins about a half mile upstream from the exit. What traditionally happens is a big dance of traffic going south: the #4 lane is full of cars that fully understand that the exit is coming up soon, and are waiting in what they correctly assume is the lane to use to exit. Traffic in every other lane (#1 to #3) also knows the #4 lane is ultimately necessary to access either exit lane, but does not use the #4 lane until very shortly before the exit. Nearer the split, most traffic in the #4 lane changes into the #5 lane; the other cars in lanes #1 to #3 change over quickly at the last moment, and exit using the #4 lane.
The problem? People using the #4 lane for the entire time. If everyone having to exit had to use the #4 lane, the backup would be enormous, and certainly more dangerous. Having traffic trying to exit from every lane gradually reduces the speed of each lane, but the overall backup is much shorter as a result, and safer as you don't have one lane barely moving adjacent to a lane that is moving at racecar speeds.