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Title: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: ghYHZ on July 09, 2016, 01:37:34 PM
Presently there’s a passenger only ferry.....but beginning in late 2017 you’ll be able to drive aboard a new ferry in St. Pierre-Miquelon and off in Fortune NL.......France to Canada in an hour! (scroll down here for English)

http://www.damen.com/en/news/2016/04/la_collectivite_territoriale_de_st_pierre_et_miquelon_selects_damen_for_two_fast_ferries

http://www.tourisme-saint-pierre-et-miquelon.com/en/2-discover.html

Looks like some SPM plated vehicles sitting on the dock in Fortune in this Street-View link. And just guessing here.....they must be barged across now on an irregular basis.
 
https://goo.gl/maps/q5wvtH2ToqM2

Just last week I spotted an SPM plated vehicle at our local McDonalds. We’re on the TCH so any vehicle from St. Pierre heading west after coming off the Newfoundland Ferry would probably pass through here.
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: MisterSG1 on July 09, 2016, 02:18:52 PM
Presently there’s a passenger only ferry.....but beginning in late 2017 you’ll be able to drive aboard a new ferry in St. Pierre-Miquelon and off in Fortune NL.......France to Canada in an hour! (scroll down here for English)

http://www.damen.com/en/news/2016/04/la_collectivite_territoriale_de_st_pierre_et_miquelon_selects_damen_for_two_fast_ferries

http://www.tourisme-saint-pierre-et-miquelon.com/en/2-discover.html

Looks like some SPM plated vehicles sitting on the dock in Fortune in this Street-View link. And just guessing here.....they must be barged across now on an irregular basis.
 
https://goo.gl/maps/q5wvtH2ToqM2

Just last week I spotted an SPM plated vehicle at our local McDonalds. We’re on the TCH so any vehicle from St. Pierre heading west after coming off the Newfoundland Ferry would probably pass through here.

Would have much preferred if you called the topic "Drive from France to NEWFOUNDLAND in an hour"

My late grandmother always proclaimed that "Canada ends at Halifax" and she is absolutely right.
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: jakeroot on July 09, 2016, 02:22:28 PM
Looks like some SPM plated vehicles sitting on the dock in Fortune in this Street-View link. And just guessing here.....they must be barged across now on an irregular basis.
 
https://goo.gl/maps/q5wvtH2ToqM2

Pretty sure NL is the only place in North America where you regularly see European-plated vehicles.

For that matter, I'm pretty sure SPM is the only place in North America with European-sized plates.
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 09, 2016, 04:52:22 PM
My late grandmother always proclaimed that "Canada ends at Halifax" and she is absolutely right.

Huh? I think I'm missing something here. NL, formed in 1949, was Canada's tenth province. Even though their road signs IMO are the worst in the country, Newfoundland is just another province, no?

I wouldn't mind visiting SPM though. It's a little part of Europe, right here in North America.
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: corco on July 09, 2016, 05:24:08 PM

https://goo.gl/maps/q5wvtH2ToqM2

Just last week I spotted an SPM plated vehicle at our local McDonalds. We’re on the TCH so any vehicle from St. Pierre heading west after coming off the Newfoundland Ferry would probably pass through here.


Great News! A Dacia Sandero in Canada!
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: ghYHZ on July 09, 2016, 05:27:49 PM
My late grandmother always proclaimed that "Canada ends at Halifax" and she is absolutely right.

Tell that to someone from Cape Breton! 
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: ghYHZ on July 09, 2016, 05:28:57 PM

Huh? I think I'm missing something here. NL, formed in 1949, was Canada's tenth province.

Newfoundland wasn’t formed in 1949......it was a colony of Great Britain that joined Canada on March 31, 1949.

Prior to that.....anyone entering Canada from Newfoundland was processed through Customs just like anyone coming from a foreign country. A coworkers parents were born Newfoundlanders but overnight on March 31/49....became Canadians!
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: MisterSG1 on July 09, 2016, 05:46:31 PM
My late grandmother always proclaimed that "Canada ends at Halifax" and she is absolutely right.

Huh? I think I'm missing something here. NL, formed in 1949, was Canada's tenth province. Even though their road signs IMO are the worst in the country, Newfoundland is just another province, no?

I wouldn't mind visiting SPM though. It's a little part of Europe, right here in North America.

See that's the thing, Newfoundland wasn't "created" in 1949 from the Northwest Territories like the prairie provinces were, from 1907 to 1948, Newfoundland was a country in the same sense Canada was. Essentially when Newfoundland joined Canada, it's like trying to picture New Zealand becoming a state of Australia.

Like Brexit, the 1948 referendums were a very close vote, with a very slim majority opting to join Canada, and this was due mostly to Joseph Smallwood's brainwashing, really I've done a lot of investigation and research myself on these referendums and there was something clearly rotten about the whole process, my grandmother voted for "Responsible government" in that referendum. The day after the vote happened, all the ballots were burned.

Also what's interesting is when Newfoundland was gobbled up by Canada, all of Newfoundland's history became forgotten....for instance, July 1 is a very sacred day in Newfoundland, it was the day of a massacre in 1916, 100 years ago at Beaumont-Hamel, which is part of the Battle of the Somme. Also, Newfoundland had absolutely nothing to do with what is generally seen as Canada's battle, Vimy Ridge, and thus that memorial on the $20 means absolutely nothing to me. Also the Newfoundlanders were at Gallipoli on the eastern front, the Canadians were not in this battle so who gives a crap right.

So yes SignGeek, Newfoundland wasn't just "another province", it was actually it's own country at one point.
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: ghYHZ on July 09, 2016, 05:46:43 PM
....... Even though their road signs IMO are the worst in the country, Newfoundland is just another province, no?

Really don’t see anything wrong with signs in Newfoundland (but hay.....I wouldn’t even know what clearview is!)
 
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HQFMxQHHAzs/Tmz7Dq8znqI/AAAAAAAALc4/BwtHUllMx_UIOh80dKnrpGqpqvNie0L6wCCo/s800/IMG_0273.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qfZ1ZNpSLHg/Tm_IAt1YSZI/AAAAAAAAH2E/KFAB1LGdW1M1OO5np7_F7Z9yqovNjaLuACCo/s800/IMG_0149.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MuzmA1d4B5c/Tm_Gyj6KhtI/AAAAAAAAH1w/hoFWZCZpzY03eoX-j6vWCA_EvOFQVIW_ACCo/s800/IMG_0097.JPG)
 (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W85HfDx_Yw8/Tm_HJHkTwWI/AAAAAAAAH10/Jxit-rEy_FIKw51HPau3AU926FcOGK8JQCCo/s800/IMG_0136.JPG)
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: english si on July 09, 2016, 06:13:39 PM
A ro-ro ferry isn't really 'drive'. It's more like 'park up, wait some time while actual movement takes place, drive off'. But interesting that St Pierre and Miquelon will be connected will be connected with Canada.

Of course, the trade deal that would be needed to justify it has been stalled over an unrelated visa dispute between Romania/Bulgaria (where most of the EU only extended free-movement to in the last two year) and Canada, and the biggest cheerleader for EU-wider world trade deals has recently decided that it shouldn't be held hostage by 27 other countries having a veto on its trade policy and thus must go its own way.
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: ghYHZ on July 09, 2016, 06:29:38 PM
A ro-ro ferry isn't really 'drive'. It's more like 'park up, wait some time while actual movement takes place, drive off'.

Yes....I think most people realize that but it’s a common enough term here with our numerous ferry operations! You drive-on the ferry then drive-off at your destination.
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: oscar on July 11, 2016, 10:06:40 AM
....... Even though their road signs IMO are the worst in the country, Newfoundland is just another province, no?

Really don’t see anything wrong with signs in Newfoundland (but hay.....I wouldn’t even know what clearview is!)

The standard black-text-on-white-squares standard signs are ... functional. But the more elaborate named-route signs are really cool, like these:

(http://www.alaskaroads.com/viking-trail-new-marker-large.jpg)

(http://www.alaskaroads.com/NL460-route-marker_DSC3154.jpg)

(http://www.alaskaroads.com/baccalieu-trail-sign-large.jpg)

(http://www.alaskaroads.com/NL513-route-marker_DSC4169.jpg)
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: Henry on July 11, 2016, 10:59:41 AM
I never realized that you could make it from Canada to France in an hour. These ferries must be really fast to achieve that feat!
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: english si on July 11, 2016, 11:26:39 AM
You can drive from France to Brazil without need for boats - here's the border control (taken by wikipedia user Loljules)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Postes_de_contr%C3%B4le.JPG/640px-Postes_de_contr%C3%B4le.JPG) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Postes_de_contr%C3%B4le.JPG)
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: 7/8 on July 11, 2016, 12:09:25 PM
I knew there was a ferry from SPM to Newfoundland, but I just assumed it accepted cars (I guess I was wrong).

I hope they add GSV of the islands once the ferry is open  :)

Now that SPM will soon be connected to North America by car, the 407 will need to add SPM licence plates to their system for billing :-D
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: ModernDayWarrior on July 11, 2016, 01:46:52 PM
But the real question is this: when will they be building the new bridge for the North American Interstate Highway System, finally connecting Saint Pierre and Miquelon to Alanland?  :)
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: vdeane on July 11, 2016, 01:58:26 PM
They are both among the 15 North American countries... perhaps there will be a link to the European interstate system?

How About having the North American Interstate Highway System, in all 15 North American countries, the countries will be, the U.S., Mexico, Canada, Alaska, Yukon, Northwest Terrtiories, Nunavut, Quebec, Greenland, Iceland, Alanland, Hawaii, Bermuda, Belize, and Saint Pierre and Miquelon, not central america, caribbean, or south america because i considered them other continents, and i would also like to have to have the interstate highway system in Europe and Australia, in Europe will have them in every country, like the UK, France or Spain, and in Australia will have them also in every country, like in Australia (Nation), or New Zealand, and this interstates can also be in Antarctica, and maybe South Africa, because in Antarctica theres only 1 or 2 countries, and about 5 or 6 Territories, and in South Africa because it looks like Europe, Australia, or North America, and those continents like North America, Europe, and Australia do look alike along with Antarctica and South Africa, theres my plan
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: kphoger on July 11, 2016, 05:27:05 PM
Oh, how I miss Alanland!
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: ghYHZ on December 03, 2017, 07:51:19 AM
The new passenger & vehicles ferries have arrived and will enter service next spring between Saint-Pierre et Miquelon and Fortune, Newfoundland.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/new-ferries-arrive-st-pierre-miquelon-1.4425096

https://goo.gl/maps/NwbF32FKzUG2
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: theroadwayone on January 14, 2018, 04:43:24 PM
Oh, how I miss Alanland!
What was Alanland?
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: 1 on January 14, 2018, 04:48:40 PM
Oh, how I miss Alanland!
What was Alanland?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7720.0

Warning: It's 80 pages long.
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: Alps on January 14, 2018, 05:12:10 PM
Oh, how I miss Alanland!
What was Alanland?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7720.0 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7720.0)

Warning: It's 80 pages long.
There are so many warnings you need before going there.  :-D
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: abefroman329 on March 28, 2018, 10:58:00 AM
Oh, how I miss Alanland!
What was Alanland?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7720.0 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7720.0)

Warning: It's 80 pages long.
There are so many warnings you need before going there.  :-D

Having just read the first post, my addition is "Warning: May Cause Headaches."
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: english si on March 28, 2018, 05:54:17 PM
Having just read the first post, my addition is "Warning: May Cause Headaches."
Before long, you'd want to change that to "May or may not cause headaches"
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: 1 on March 28, 2018, 05:55:27 PM
Having just read the first post, my addition is "Warning: May Cause Headaches."
Before long, you'd want to change that to "May or may not cause headaches"

Will and will not.
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: index on April 22, 2018, 11:24:28 AM
My late grandmother always proclaimed that "Canada ends at Halifax" and she is absolutely right.

Even though their road signs IMO are the worst in the country, Newfoundland



I wholeheartedly agree with this. Newfoundland's signs remind me of my first attempts at making them.
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: MisterSG1 on April 22, 2018, 11:45:39 AM
My late grandmother always proclaimed that "Canada ends at Halifax" and she is absolutely right.

Even though their road signs IMO are the worst in the country, Newfoundland



I wholeheartedly agree with this. Newfoundland's signs remind me of my first attempts at making them.

I’m not going to disagree with you on that, the signage is very bad in Newfoundland.
Title: Re: Drive from France to Canada in an Hour!
Post by: Richard3 on May 28, 2018, 12:09:54 AM
According to this CBC article, new ferries (named Nordet and Suroît) are operating since May 15th, but can't carry vehicles because the port installations in Fortune, NL are not ready to unload vehicles.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/stpierre-fortune-ferry-upgrades-stalled-1.4641268 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/stpierre-fortune-ferry-upgrades-stalled-1.4641268)