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Title: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on January 31, 2017, 11:11:44 AM
Yes corco, I know I have posted this in other forums (no need to link to them), however, for the Amazon Prime customers here at AARoads, I would like to know what shipping carriers Amazon uses for most of your Prime orders.

For me, the vast majority come using the hybrid Amazon+USPS service (which show as USPS on Amazon's tracking page), where Amazon transports the item to my local post office and the USPS makes the last mile delivery.  We do get occasional UPS and OnTrac as well, with UPS often for heavier items and OnTrac for items that get shipped at the last minute to meet the two day delivery window. However, we never get FedEx for any Prime orders.  We haven't yet gotten Amazon (the white Amazon vans) Logistics all the way to our house for our own orders, however, we have gotten them when buying items for some friends who live in more central locations in the Valley.

What does Amazon use for your Prime orders?
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 31, 2017, 11:16:31 AM
Not that we order too much, but it appears USPS is who we generally get our Prime orders from.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on January 31, 2017, 11:30:13 AM
Not that we order too much, but it appears USPS is who we generally get our Prime orders from.

Note that many Prime orders that show as "USPS" on Amazon's tracking page are actually a hybrid Amazon+USPS shipping service, where Amazon transports the package to a local post office and the USPS makes the last mile delivery.  When you track the package on the USPS website, it shows that the package is with a "shipping partner" until the package arrives at the post office.  This is similar in operations to FedEx SmartPost and UPS SurePost/Mail Innovations, however, it is handled by Amazon themselves and is much quicker.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: coatimundi on January 31, 2017, 11:40:52 AM
We use it all the time, and it's been USPS for smaller items and then UPS for larger.

UPS has a relationship with USPS to carry its smaller packages. I actually worked on a management system for that years ago.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: SP Cook on January 31, 2017, 11:42:14 AM
I find no rhyme nor reason to the subject.  Packages seem to come from USPS, UPS, and Fed Ex Ground in a mixture which seems to have no pattern.  Also note the "hybrid" system where (generally) UPS delivers it to the nearest USPS sortation facility for final delivery.  Also certain items are shipped directly from China via China Post, with labels in English and Chinese.  This is generally bad service as the packages often take weeks to show up, but you cannot tell until just before you check out when the delivery date will be weeks away.  Have also received packages direct from Canada and the UK on occasion, also a semingly random mix of carriers, including the Royal Mail or Canada Post via the UPU.

Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: doorknob60 on January 31, 2017, 01:13:00 PM
In Meridian, I'd say 2/3 of the time it's the hybrid Amazon/USPS thing, and 1/3 of the time UPS. It seems like when they originate from Seattle area it's the USPS hybrid, and other places it's UPS. Don't know how consistent that is. When I lived in Nampa though, it was pretty much all UPS. Maybe just a coincidence (timing), or not. I can't think of the last time I've got FedEx or OnTrac from Amazon, but it can happen.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on January 31, 2017, 01:39:55 PM
In Meridian, I'd say 2/3 of the time it's the hybrid Amazon/USPS thing, and 1/3 of the time UPS. It seems like when they originate from Seattle area it's the USPS hybrid, and other places it's UPS. Don't know how consistent that is. When I lived in Nampa though, it was pretty much all UPS. Maybe just a coincidence (timing), or not. I can't think of the last time I've got FedEx or OnTrac from Amazon, but it can happen.

We do in fact get FedEx for the majority of merchant-fulfilled (non-Prime) orders.  My guess the reason why FedEx isn't used much for Prime shipping is because the USPS and UPS simply gave Amazon better pricing. The vast majority of Prime items are either sold or fulfilled by Amazon; the merchant-fulfilled Prime program is still in its infancy and is by invitation to certain sellers only.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: jakeroot on January 31, 2017, 02:15:10 PM
While working at my hotel the other day, I saw an Amazon-branded Ford Transit deliver a package. Might have been one of those same-day deliveries.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on January 31, 2017, 02:47:42 PM
While working at my hotel the other day, I saw an Amazon-branded Ford Transit deliver a package. Might have been one of those same-day deliveries.

That is Amazon Logistics.  They are found in some major cities with local fulfillment centers.  I have seen them here in the Phoenix area, although they don't seem to serve our neighborhood, which is probably why the USPS does the last mile delivery for most of our Prime items.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: corco on January 31, 2017, 03:09:50 PM
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/for-amazon-prime-users-what-shipping-providers-does-amazon-use-for-your-orders.2492250/

http://www.city-data.com/forum/shopping-consumer-products/2670094-amazon-prime-members-what-shipping-service.html
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: jakeroot on January 31, 2017, 04:37:26 PM
^^^

Even though you asked him not to post those links, Pink Jazz, there's only so many carriers in this country. Judging by the combined seven pages of responses in those other forums, I would have expected that you could have come to a conclusion by now (since Prime users are the same on every forum).
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on January 31, 2017, 05:21:57 PM
^

However, more specifically it seems to vary by region.  Whatever carrier Amazon uses in one city they may use someone else in a different city.

And are there really any other users here who are members of City-Data and/or Anandtech?
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: vdeane on January 31, 2017, 09:44:18 PM
They always used UPS when I was a member, but that was a year or two ago.  I used it mainly for the video streaming, so I dropped it when they dropped Doctor Who; the free two day shipping was just a bonus for me.  Honestly, I don't buy anything except Kindle books and MP3s from Amazon any more anyways, since I don't like how they're making some products Prime exclusives.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: kphoger on February 01, 2017, 01:09:44 PM
Most times it's by UPS, but sometimes by USPS.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: ET21 on February 01, 2017, 08:44:48 PM
Working as a package handler with UPS at the moment, we get a TON of Amazon (my truck alone during a day could see anywhere between 1000 and 1500 Amazons). From what I've learned so far, UPS tends to deliver the packages to the city or UPS hub and then transfers them to the local handlers (USPS or other shippers). If the package is a certain size or weight, then it is handled by a UPS truck.

Amazon is slowly building it's own fleet of delivery drivers, so some under-served areas may see this more than UPS or FedEx.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Scott5114 on February 01, 2017, 09:54:41 PM
They stuff my packages in a cinder block and throw it through the window.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: spooky on February 02, 2017, 12:50:21 PM
drone.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on February 11, 2017, 02:43:53 PM
FYI, for a recent Prime order we decided to go with one-day shipping due to the immediate need for an item my mom wants since she needs it for a party tonight, and for the very first time we got a Prime item shipped using FedEx (specifically FedEx Express Priority Overnight).  Perhaps Amazon uses FedEx more for one-day Prime shipments rather than two-day.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: vdeane on February 11, 2017, 06:11:17 PM
Does Amazon give a discount to Prime members choosing one day shipping?
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: lordsutch on February 11, 2017, 10:41:24 PM
Does Amazon give a discount to Prime members choosing one day shipping?

One-day shipping for Prime members is usually $3.99/item, although large/heavy items may be more.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: US71 on February 12, 2017, 07:21:26 PM
Speaking of Amazon, beginning March 1st they will be collecting sales tax for Arkansas.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Scott5114 on February 13, 2017, 06:05:09 AM
Speaking of Amazon, beginning March 1st they will be collecting sales tax for Arkansas.

Oklahoma as well. OK has been making a huge stink about online sites bypassing sales tax collection. I feel like that indicates that the concept of sales taxes is out of date for 21st century commerce, but that's out of the remit of this forum...
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 13, 2017, 06:14:34 AM
Is Amazon building distribution centers in those states?  When Amazon started collecting Sales Tax in NJ, it was because they had a 'physical presence'...which was in the form of a new distribution center.

BTW, yesterday (Sunday), I saw an Amazon package delivered via plain white rental van across the street.  Driver put the package at the door and walked back to the van.  Didn't even bother knocking.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: US71 on February 13, 2017, 10:22:38 AM
Is Amazon building distribution centers in those states?  When Amazon started collecting Sales Tax in NJ, it was because they had a 'physical presence'...which was in the form of a new distribution center.

BTW, yesterday (Sunday), I saw an Amazon package delivered via plain white rental van across the street.  Driver put the package at the door and walked back to the van.  Didn't even bother knocking.

The states are desperate for tax revenue.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 13, 2017, 10:29:32 AM
Is Amazon building distribution centers in those states?  When Amazon started collecting Sales Tax in NJ, it was because they had a 'physical presence'...which was in the form of a new distribution center.

BTW, yesterday (Sunday), I saw an Amazon package delivered via plain white rental van across the street.  Driver put the package at the door and walked back to the van.  Didn't even bother knocking.

The states are desperate for tax revenue.

Right...but there is a reason why Amazon is suddenly going to charge sales tax for those two states, and deal with all the related accounting of such.  It's not because they're doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: US71 on February 13, 2017, 05:50:18 PM
Is Amazon building distribution centers in those states?  When Amazon started collecting Sales Tax in NJ, it was because they had a 'physical presence'...which was in the form of a new distribution center.

BTW, yesterday (Sunday), I saw an Amazon package delivered via plain white rental van across the street.  Driver put the package at the door and walked back to the van.  Didn't even bother knocking.

The states are desperate for tax revenue.

Right...but there is a reason why Amazon is suddenly going to charge sales tax for those two states, and deal with all the related accounting of such.  It's not because they're doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.

Right! The state legislatures passed a law.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: realjd on February 14, 2017, 02:08:06 PM
Central Florida here. Almost entirely USPS, including Sunday deliveries. Occasaionally it'll be a UPS or rarely FedEx. UPS tends to handle overnight orders, or weirdly shaped or large packages that wouldn't fit on a standard issue USPS jeep.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: realjd on February 14, 2017, 02:12:31 PM
Is Amazon building distribution centers in those states?  When Amazon started collecting Sales Tax in NJ, it was because they had a 'physical presence'...which was in the form of a new distribution center.

BTW, yesterday (Sunday), I saw an Amazon package delivered via plain white rental van across the street.  Driver put the package at the door and walked back to the van.  Didn't even bother knocking.

The states are desperate for tax revenue.

Right...but there is a reason why Amazon is suddenly going to charge sales tax for those two states, and deal with all the related accounting of such.  It's not because they're doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.

Right! The state legislatures passed a law.

The state can't compel an out of state company to charge taxes on purchases made across state lines. It's up to state residents to declare any purchases and pay additional taxes on their tax returns. If Amazon is actually charging and paying sales tax to Arkansas, it's because they want to, not because they're legally required to regardless of state law. They likely just don't want to bother with the legal fees to challenge Arkansas's law.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on February 14, 2017, 05:48:14 PM
Central Florida here. Almost entirely USPS, including Sunday deliveries. Occasaionally it'll be a UPS or rarely FedEx. UPS tends to handle overnight orders, or weirdly shaped or large packages that wouldn't fit on a standard issue USPS jeep.

Sunday deliveries will always be USPS or Amazon Logistics (the latter only in select areas), since neither UPS nor FedEx have a contract with Amazon for Sunday deliveries (the USPS is the exclusive partner).
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: vdeane on February 14, 2017, 09:28:18 PM
Is Amazon building distribution centers in those states?  When Amazon started collecting Sales Tax in NJ, it was because they had a 'physical presence'...which was in the form of a new distribution center.

BTW, yesterday (Sunday), I saw an Amazon package delivered via plain white rental van across the street.  Driver put the package at the door and walked back to the van.  Didn't even bother knocking.

The states are desperate for tax revenue.

Right...but there is a reason why Amazon is suddenly going to charge sales tax for those two states, and deal with all the related accounting of such.  It's not because they're doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.

Right! The state legislatures passed a law.

The state can't compel an out of state company to charge taxes on purchases made across state lines. It's up to state residents to declare any purchases and pay additional taxes on their tax returns. If Amazon is actually charging and paying sales tax to Arkansas, it's because they want to, not because they're legally required to regardless of state law. They likely just don't want to bother with the legal fees to challenge Arkansas's law.
If Amazon has a warehouse or something in the state, it's legally considered an Arkansas company for the purposes of sales tax collection, same as any company that's in multiple states.  NY even tried to make that count for simply having affiliates in the state!
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Duke87 on February 15, 2017, 12:29:22 AM
The state can't compel an out of state company to charge taxes on purchases made across state lines. It's up to state residents to declare any purchases and pay additional taxes on their tax returns. If Amazon is actually charging and paying sales tax to Arkansas, it's because they want to, not because they're legally required to regardless of state law. They likely just don't want to bother with the legal fees to challenge Arkansas's law.
If Amazon has a warehouse or something in the state, it's legally considered an Arkansas company for the purposes of sales tax collection, same as any company that's in multiple states.  NY even tried to make that count for simply having affiliates in the state!

Various other states have done that as well. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_tax) Amazon has in some cases responded by cutting off their affiliates within the state. They did this in Connecticut in 2011 but a couple years later they announced plans to build a distribution center in Connecticut and started collecting CT sales tax.

For New York's law, they filed suit challenging it but the New York State supreme court upheld it and the US supreme court refused to hear an appeal (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-12-02/amazon-rejected-by-u-s-high-court-on-new-york-sales-tax).

All this brouhaha hinges on Quill v. North Dakota (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quill_Corp._v._North_Dakota), where the US supreme court ruled that a company selling products from a catalogue could not be compelled by a state where they have no physical presence to collect sales tax solely for shipping products there. The logic being that this is interstate commerce and therefore only the federal government can pass legislation requiring retailers to collect sales tax for customers located in a different state. To this day, the federal government has not done so.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on March 08, 2017, 11:06:05 AM
I actually wonder if we will start to get Amazon Logistics for some Prime orders now, since apparently our ZIP code was added to the free one-day delivery area for qualifying orders over $35.  Still don't get free same-day delivery, though.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: kkt on March 10, 2017, 01:56:53 PM
It seems like Amazon goes to some lengths to be sure you DON'T get one day delivery unless you pay the higher shipping charge.  They'll let things sit in the warehouse for a couple of days before shipping if delivery could happen sooner than you've paid for.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on March 14, 2017, 10:34:48 PM
I just ordered something (a dash cam and a microSD card) for the first time using the free one-day shipping, and it still shipped using the Amazon+USPS shipping.  Our order cutoff time for the free one-day shipping is around 4 PM, so my guess is that Amazon needs enough time for the local post office to receive and deliver the item in order to meet the guarantee.  So I guess this means no Amazon Logistics to our address.

 I do believe that only items in one of the local fulfillment centers qualify for the free one-day shipping, since my items shipped from one of the fulfillment centers in Phoenix.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on April 08, 2017, 07:46:29 PM
Of an interesting note, it appears that I just placed my first order that is using the Prime Air transportation network.  As stated, the majority of my orders are shipped using the Amazon linehaul network with the USPS doing the last mile delivery.  However, historically the long distance Prime packages were more likely to ship UPS.  However, this time I have an order from the Shakopee, MN fulfillment center that according to the USPS tracking went through Rockford IL, Wilmington, OH, and Phoenix, AZ.  These are Prime Air (operated by Air Transport International) destinations.  It looks like I will be getting UPS less often now probably except maybe for some heavy packages.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on June 15, 2017, 08:58:48 AM
Looks like for the very first time we got an order using Amazon Logistics to our own address, so it appears they have expanded their delivery area to serve Queen Creek.  However, we are still outside the free Same-Day Delivery area.

EDIT: I just found out that Amazon Flex (the parent of Amazon Logistics) has recently opened a delivery center in Chandler.  I'm guessing this will be the delivery center that will serve our address.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: froggie on June 15, 2017, 03:19:08 PM
To answer the OP, up here it's usually UPS.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on June 15, 2017, 05:38:30 PM
I was told by an Amazon rep in a live chat that our ZIP code is on the radar to be added to the Free Same-Day Delivery area with the new Delivery Station that opened in Chandler.

The way the Amazon shipping is structured is that there are three types of centers - Fulfillment Centers, Sort Centers, and Delivery Stations.  Fulfillment Centers are where all items sold by Amazon as well as the third-party items that are fulfilled by Amazon are stored.  Sort centers are typically in major cities, and sort packages by ZIP code to distribute to Delivery Stations or to local USPS Post Offices.  Delivery Stations are the centers where packages are loaded onto Amazon Logistics vans for last-mile delivery.

My guess is that Amazon is more likely to use UPS or FedEx in areas that are not in proximity to Sort Centers.  For addresses in metropolitan areas with Sort Centers, but are not within a reasonable radius of a Delivery Station, the Sort Center will typically hand off the package to the USPS for last-mile delivery which has been the case for our address until now.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: epzik8 on June 18, 2017, 09:00:32 PM
The United States Postal Service.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on July 25, 2017, 12:37:12 PM
Just as an update on more recent experiences, with Amazon Logistics now serving my area, they now seem to do be doing all of the Free One-Day Prime shipments to my address now. However, most of my Two-Day Prime shipments still seem to get assigned to USPS for the last mile, although I get Amazon Logistics at times (with UPS for one recent order).

My guess is that because Amazon Logistics deals with a lot of the Free Same-Day and One-Day orders, many of the Two-Day orders will overflow to USPS and other carriers.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: sharkyfour on July 29, 2017, 01:54:06 PM
Rural eastern CT here...  Until about 12-18 months ago, it was almost exclusively UPS, with the occasional USPS or FedEx delivery.  Ever since the BDL5 sorting center opened in CT, it's been 90% the Amazon/USPS hybrid, with UPS 2-Day or an occasional FedEx overnight filling in when the item isn't fulfilled within the northeast.  Actually slowed many of my packages down a day, as UPS used to only promise 2-day delivery from the NJ/PA warehouses but 90% of the time they actually delivered overnight.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on July 29, 2017, 04:54:52 PM
Rural eastern CT here...  Until about 12-18 months ago, it was almost exclusively UPS, with the occasional USPS or FedEx delivery.  Ever since the BDL5 sorting center opened in CT, it's been 90% the Amazon/USPS hybrid, with UPS 2-Day or an occasional FedEx overnight filling in when the item isn't fulfilled within the northeast.  Actually slowed many of my packages down a day, as UPS used to only promise 2-day delivery from the NJ/PA warehouses but 90% of the time they actually delivered overnight.


I'd expect that the majority of metropolitan areas that have Sortation Centers present will get more Amazon+USPS.  However, if there are Amazon Logistics Delivery Stations in the area, then Amazon Logistics will take priority especially with Free Same-Day and One-Day orders, with Amazon+USPS being the main overflow carrier.

Note that some of the Sortation Centers can serve fairly large areas.  For example, the Phoenix (PHX8) Sortation Center has some packages that go to Albuquerque.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Pink Jazz on December 13, 2018, 01:02:56 PM
As an update to our area, Amazon Logistics is now the majority for our area (they started serving our area in May 2017), with Free One-Day orders pretty much being Amazon Logistics exclusively. We still occasionally get USPS (we got three by USPS recently).  UPS and OnTrac are less common, and only once have we ever gotten FedEx (for a paid One-Day shipping upgrade).

BTW, as of September of this year Amazon added our ZIP code to the Same-Day Delivery area although we have yet to order any Same-Day packages.  Also, as of the summer I actually heard that Amazon Logistics extended their service boundaries further to San Tan Valley in the east, Black Canyon City in the north, Buckeye in the west, and Casa Grande and Maricopa in the south.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: bing101 on December 13, 2018, 01:19:18 PM
FedEx, UPS and USPS sent Amazon Packages to my place in the past though.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: roadman on December 13, 2018, 01:55:34 PM
Before Amazon started using Fred's Trucking and similar nondescript "carriers" to deliver Prime packages in our area, most of the stuff was delivered by UPS.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: abefroman329 on December 13, 2018, 02:26:20 PM
Is Amazon building distribution centers in those states?  When Amazon started collecting Sales Tax in NJ, it was because they had a 'physical presence'...which was in the form of a new distribution center.

BTW, yesterday (Sunday), I saw an Amazon package delivered via plain white rental van across the street.  Driver put the package at the door and walked back to the van.  Didn't even bother knocking.

The states are desperate for tax revenue.

Right...but there is a reason why Amazon is suddenly going to charge sales tax for those two states, and deal with all the related accounting of such.  It's not because they're doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.
Because they can, thanks to a recent Supreme Court decision.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: abefroman329 on December 13, 2018, 02:32:43 PM
Ours are primarily delivered by Amazon Logistics.  We have a chronic issue with packages not being delivered to the correct address.  Our development consists of six townhouses, two rows of three units, and each row has a separate street address and A, B, and C units.  We live in the A unit, which is closest to the street, and the drivers habitually leave all the packages for all three units at our doorstep.  We've finally complained to Amazon Logistics enough that they're supposed to stop doing this, although recently they've gotten so lazy that they ring our doorbell, ask us if we know the people who live at whichever other unit they're supposed to deliver to, and would we mind giving it to them.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: abefroman329 on December 17, 2018, 07:26:26 AM
Ours are primarily delivered by Amazon Logistics.  We have a chronic issue with packages not being delivered to the correct address.  Our development consists of six townhouses, two rows of three units, and each row has a separate street address and A, B, and C units.  We live in the A unit, which is closest to the street, and the drivers habitually leave all the packages for all three units at our doorstep.  We've finally complained to Amazon Logistics enough that they're supposed to stop doing this, although recently they've gotten so lazy that they ring our doorbell, ask us if we know the people who live at whichever other unit they're supposed to deliver to, and would we mind giving it to them.
UPDATE: We are still getting packages addressed to others. Despite Amazon assuring me that the issue had been fixed.

Apparently this is the answer to the question “let’s cut out the middleman and deliver our own packages, what could possibly go wrong?”
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: sparker on December 23, 2018, 02:02:47 AM
Seems to depend upon the size of the parcel; small things, including most media, go USPS.  Mid-sized packages (up to 5-7 pounds and a half cubic foot or less) tend to travel FedEx (usually Ground); while larger/heavier items are split as what seems randomly between UPS and FedEx.  Obviously, there's functional parity between the two private carriers, but vendors such as Amazon definitely prefer both the significantly lowered cost for small and/or light packages that USPS has long provided. 

Alternately, ebay shipment, at least in my experience, tends to be dominated by FedEx -- but where there's an option, most customers (including my own) do tend to prefer FedEx over UPS for anything reasonably valuable (their rates are essentially identical).
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 23, 2018, 03:35:45 AM
Is Amazon building distribution centers in those states?  When Amazon started collecting Sales Tax in NJ, it was because they had a 'physical presence'...which was in the form of a new distribution center.

BTW, yesterday (Sunday), I saw an Amazon package delivered via plain white rental van across the street.  Driver put the package at the door and walked back to the van.  Didn't even bother knocking.

The states are desperate for tax revenue.

Right...but there is a reason why Amazon is suddenly going to charge sales tax for those two states, and deal with all the related accounting of such.  It's not because they're doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.
Because they can, thanks to a recent Supreme Court decision.

Well, yeah, over a year and a half since I wrote my comment.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: kphoger on December 28, 2018, 01:42:43 PM
most customers (including my own) do tend to prefer FedEx over UPS for anything reasonably valuable (their rates are essentially identical).

Not for my wife and me.  FedEx is the only carrier who has ever literally thrown a package at our house from halfway out in the yard.  I assume the driver didn't think anyone would notice because there was no car in the driveway, but I had merely taken the car to work and my wife was watching the driver through the window.

We were also privy to a situation that happened in eastern Asia about 12 to 15 years ago that soured our opinion of FedEx.  My wife was a live-in nanny for a couple in the Chicago suburbs, and the wife in that family ran a business out of her basement selling a certain type of item that she had manufactured in China.  Her shipments would usually come over to the USA by container ship.  One time, FedEx in China changed the shipping price to more than what they had told her.  After some back-and-forth between her and them, she arranged for her contact in China to go to the FedEx facility there and reclaim the goods until things could be settled.  But, by the time her contact arrived at FedEx, they had shipped it to the Philippines in order to prevent her from doing so.  Basically, they held the goods captive in a foreign country.  My wife's boss called the office of the CEO of FedEx, and his secretary called FedEx in the Philippines with this directive:  Get the goods on the first shipment out of the Philippines, no matter where it's headed.  All was eventually made right, but we certainly haven't forgotten the ordeal.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: US71 on January 02, 2019, 10:42:50 AM
I got a delivery Monday vie Fed-Up, er Fed Ex.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: abefroman329 on January 02, 2019, 11:47:39 AM
I got a delivery Monday vie Fed-Up, er Fed Ex.
The dean of students at my college loved to make the "UPS and FedEx have merged and formed a new company called FedUP" joke during my freshman year.  That summer, there had been a strike by UPS drivers, and...well, either it was legitimately having a knock-on effect on businesses that relied on UPS deliveries to conduct business, or they were using the strike as an excuse to drag ass.  Either way, it was a pain for some consumers.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: US71 on January 02, 2019, 12:28:45 PM
I got a delivery Monday vie Fed-Up, er Fed Ex.
The dean of students at my college loved to make the "UPS and FedEx have merged and formed a new company called FedUP" joke during my freshman year.  That summer, there had been a strike by UPS drivers, and...well, either it was legitimately having a knock-on effect on businesses that relied on UPS deliveries to conduct business, or they were using the strike as an excuse to drag ass.  Either way, it was a pain for some consumers.

That's an old joke. I know someone who works for Fed-Ex and has never found the joke funny.
 
Nor does UPS appreciate being called OOPS ;)
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: abefroman329 on January 02, 2019, 01:33:31 PM
I got a delivery Monday vie Fed-Up, er Fed Ex.
The dean of students at my college loved to make the "UPS and FedEx have merged and formed a new company called FedUP" joke during my freshman year.  That summer, there had been a strike by UPS drivers, and...well, either it was legitimately having a knock-on effect on businesses that relied on UPS deliveries to conduct business, or they were using the strike as an excuse to drag ass.  Either way, it was a pain for some consumers.

That's an old joke. I know someone who works for Fed-Ex and has never found the joke funny.
 
Nor does UPS appreciate being called OOPS ;)
You should make friends with someone who works for UPS so they can confirm the rumor that UPS delivery drivers aren't allowed to make left turns.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Brandon on January 02, 2019, 01:33:58 PM
I got a delivery Monday vie Fed-Up, er Fed Ex.
The dean of students at my college loved to make the "UPS and FedEx have merged and formed a new company called FedUP" joke during my freshman year.  That summer, there had been a strike by UPS drivers, and...well, either it was legitimately having a knock-on effect on businesses that relied on UPS deliveries to conduct business, or they were using the strike as an excuse to drag ass.  Either way, it was a pain for some consumers.

That's an old joke. I know someone who works for Fed-Ex and has never found the joke funny.
 
Nor does UPS appreciate being called OOPS ;)

UPS earns the "Oops" nickname.  Of course, FedEx is "FuckUps" to me, with the USPS being "Oopsies".

I've had to ship coolers full of of water samples, on ice, in one-quart sized glass containers from time to time.  I swear, no matter how much bubble wrap you use, FedEx somehow manages to break at least one in the cooler.  Then there was the weekend they decided to leave a few of these coolers out in the hot Memphis sun instead of following the Saturday delivery instructions.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: abefroman329 on January 02, 2019, 01:36:06 PM
Then there was the weekend they decided to leave a few of these coolers out in the hot Memphis sun instead of following the Saturday delivery instructions.
I bet they were still happy to pocket the premium you paid for Saturday delivery.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: Brandon on January 02, 2019, 01:40:48 PM
Then there was the weekend they decided to leave a few of these coolers out in the hot Memphis sun instead of following the Saturday delivery instructions.
I bet they were still happy to pocket the premium you paid for Saturday delivery.

I think our company lawyers got the refund out of them.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 06, 2019, 08:10:24 AM
NJ.com had a story yesterday regarding Amazon's distribution warehouses.  There's about 100 of them in the country, and New Jersey will have 10 of them!  One of their newest ones opened just a few miles from me, just off Exit 19 of I-295, and its oversized logo can easily be seen from 295 while the trees are bare of leaves. 

Also, apparently during weekdays the public can go in and take a look inside the warehouses!

https://www.nj.com/expo/news/g66l-2019/02/c1957c0f4a9901/spinning-robots-are-just-part-of-the-magic-of-what-happens-at-amazon-after-you-click-buy.html
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: kevinb1994 on February 06, 2019, 03:57:07 PM
NJ.com had a story yesterday regarding Amazon's distribution warehouses.  There's about 100 of them in the country, and New Jersey will have 10 of them!  One of their newest ones opened just a few miles from me, just off Exit 19 of I-295, and its oversized logo can easily be seen from 295 while the trees are bare of leaves. 

Also, apparently during weekdays the public can go in and take a look inside the warehouses!

https://www.nj.com/expo/news/g66l-2019/02/c1957c0f4a9901/spinning-robots-are-just-part-of-the-magic-of-what-happens-at-amazon-after-you-click-buy.html

I remember when they started to expand in the state while I was still living there (as it is the state where I was born and grew up).
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: abefroman329 on February 06, 2019, 05:31:12 PM
NJ.com had a story yesterday regarding Amazon's distribution warehouses.  There's about 100 of them in the country, and New Jersey will have 10 of them!  One of their newest ones opened just a few miles from me, just off Exit 19 of I-295, and its oversized logo can easily be seen from 295 while the trees are bare of leaves. 

Also, apparently during weekdays the public can go in and take a look inside the warehouses!

https://www.nj.com/expo/news/g66l-2019/02/c1957c0f4a9901/spinning-robots-are-just-part-of-the-magic-of-what-happens-at-amazon-after-you-click-buy.html
Meanwhile in Illinois, Amazon is being sued because one of their warehouse employees had a heart attack and died, (allegedly) because they waited too long to call 911, either had no AEDs or didn't have anyone trained on their use (can't recall which), and then the receptionist wouldn't allow the EMTs onto the warehouse floor for several minutes after they arrived.
Title: Re: Amazon Prime - what shipping carriers does Amazon use for your orders?
Post by: bing101 on February 22, 2019, 05:26:07 PM


https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-could-replace-dead-rolling-acres-shopping-mall-report-2019-2


Amazon in talks to takeover a former mall in Ohio and convert it into a shipping center.