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Title: Bombogenesis
Post by: 02 Park Ave on January 03, 2018, 05:33:42 PM
Has anyone along the East Coast experienced a rapidly falling barometer yet today?
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: jp the roadgeek on January 03, 2018, 09:16:55 PM
Anyone who's over 40 and their aches and pains start acting up can certainly tell you.  Mine haven't yet because we're still up at 30.2 inHg
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: 02 Park Ave on January 03, 2018, 11:50:39 PM
Here in South Jersey it has dropped form 30.17 at 6:00 pm to 30.01 at 11:49 pm.  Not that much but still it is dropping.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: Hurricane Rex on January 04, 2018, 01:39:01 AM
I've heard it being called a snow hurricane on talk radio because of the pressure drop.

Of course, I live in the Northwest but I feel bad with what you're all going through.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: 02 Park Ave on January 04, 2018, 06:00:44 AM
29.61 at 6:00 am
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on January 04, 2018, 06:39:33 AM
Here in South Jersey it has dropped form 1021.7 at 6:00 pm to 1016.3 at 11:49 pm.  Not that much but still it is dropping.

1002.7 at 6:00 am

Fixed for me :sombrero:.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: 02 Park Ave on January 04, 2018, 07:39:38 AM
It has been forecast to drop down to 950 millibars.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: 02 Park Ave on January 04, 2018, 10:00:49 AM
997.3 millibars at 1000 hours.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: 1995hoo on January 04, 2018, 10:04:26 AM
The Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel is closed due to conditions in the Virginia Beach area.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: jp the roadgeek on January 04, 2018, 10:47:00 AM
29.5 inHg at 10 AM
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: 02 Park Ave on January 04, 2018, 02:02:51 PM
995.3 millibars at 1400 hours.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: Road Hog on January 04, 2018, 05:30:19 PM
Weather people are always inventing new terminology for the latest big event. This is basically just a big nor’easter.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on January 04, 2018, 06:41:26 PM
I beg to differ. I've heard the term "bombogenesis" before. See also explosive cyclogenesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive_cyclogenesis).
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: Hurricane Rex on January 05, 2018, 01:38:56 AM
Weather people are always inventing new terminology for the latest big event. This is basically just a big nor’easter.
I would say its more the media as bombogenisis has been used before but bomb cyclone, which has been used by some media, isn't a weather term.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: cjk374 on January 05, 2018, 07:43:41 PM
But then they (whoever "they" are) have named this "Winter Storm Grayson" like it is a hurricane. Why?
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: TheHighwayMan394 on January 05, 2018, 08:30:36 PM
But then they (whoever "they" are) have named this "Winter Storm Grayson" like it is a hurricane. Why?

That’s entirely a Weather Channel “invention”. The NWS and other weather agencies objected to TWC doing this and refuse to use the names. Unfortunately it gained a lot of traction a few years ago when the former mayor of NYC used one of TWC’s names as a twitter hashtag and that put the winter storm names into mainstream usage.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: MNHighwayMan on January 05, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
But then they (whoever "they" are) have named this "Winter Storm Grayson" like it is a hurricane. Why?
That’s entirely a Weather Channel “invention”. The NWS and other weather agencies objected to TWC doing this and refuse to use the names. Unfortunately it gained a lot of traction a few years ago when the former mayor of NYC used one of TWC’s names as a twitter hashtag and that put the winter storm names into mainstream usage.

This whole TWC naming winter "storms" really put me off, especially after the NWS objected. I stopped watching their channel after that BS started (not that I did much watching to begin with, but…)
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: Hurricane Rex on January 06, 2018, 03:48:48 AM
But then they (whoever "they" are) have named this "Winter Storm Grayson" like it is a hurricane. Why?
That’s entirely a Weather Channel “invention”. The NWS and other weather agencies objected to TWC doing this and refuse to use the names. Unfortunately it gained a lot of traction a few years ago when the former mayor of NYC used one of TWC’s names as a twitter hashtag and that put the winter storm names into mainstream usage.

This whole TWC naming winter "storms" really put me off, especially after the NWS objected. I stopped watching their channel after that BS started (not that I did much watching to begin with, but…)

Hurricanes make sense to name them but winter storms..

You dun goofed TWC. Listen to the NWS.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on January 06, 2018, 08:35:31 AM
But then they (whoever "they" are) have named this "Winter Storm Grayson" like it is a hurricane. Why?
That’s entirely a Weather Channel “invention”. The NWS and other weather agencies objected to TWC doing this and refuse to use the names. Unfortunately it gained a lot of traction a few years ago when the former mayor of NYC used one of TWC’s names as a twitter hashtag and that put the winter storm names into mainstream usage.

This whole TWC naming winter "storms" really put me off, especially after the NWS objected. I stopped watching their channel after that BS started (not that I did much watching to begin with, but…)

Then don't come to Europe. We have started to officially name Winter storms :sombrero:.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: SSOWorld on January 06, 2018, 12:18:26 PM
But then they (whoever "they" are) have named this "Winter Storm Grayson" like it is a hurricane. Why?
That’s entirely a Weather Channel “invention”. The NWS and other weather agencies objected to TWC doing this and refuse to use the names. Unfortunately it gained a lot of traction a few years ago when the former mayor of NYC used one of TWC’s names as a twitter hashtag and that put the winter storm names into mainstream usage.

This whole TWC naming winter "storms" really put me off, especially after the NWS objected. I stopped watching their channel after that BS started (not that I did much watching to begin with, but…)

Then don't come to Europe. We have started to officially name Wind storms :sombrero:.

FTFY  :sombrero: as winter storms are nothing out of the ordinary and pass through very often.  Wind storms in Europe are really only named in some countries (UK, Ireland) - take 'ex-Ophelia' for example.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: 02 Park Ave on January 06, 2018, 03:04:53 PM
The Met Office in the UK names winter storms.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on January 06, 2018, 03:26:06 PM
Then don't come to Europe. We have started to officially name Wind storms :sombrero:.

FTFY  :sombrero: as winter storms are nothing out of the ordinary and pass through very often.  Wind storms in Europe are really only named in some countries (UK, Ireland) - take 'ex-Ophelia' for example.

And from this year also France, Spain and Portugal have set up a joint list. We already have had Ana, Bruno and now Carmen. A different list from that used in the British Isles, but they are working together to write a single list for all five countries next year.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: 1 on January 06, 2018, 03:27:20 PM
Then don't come to Europe. We have started to officially name Wind storms :sombrero:.

FTFY  :sombrero: as winter storms are nothing out of the ordinary and pass through very often.  Wind storms in Europe are really only named in some countries (UK, Ireland) - take 'ex-Ophelia' for example.

And from this year also France, Spain and Portugal in a joint list. We already have had Ana, Bruno and now Carmen. A different list from that used in the British Isles, but they are working together to write a single list for all five countries next year.

Six countries, right? Why would Andorra be excluded?
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: kphoger on January 08, 2018, 01:27:15 PM
Why would Andorra be excluded?

I can only assume it's because Andorra likes to be different.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: MNHighwayMan on January 08, 2018, 01:39:55 PM
Why would Andorra be excluded?

I can only assume it's because no one cares about Andorra likes to be different.

Fixed that for you. :bigass:
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: english si on January 08, 2018, 05:28:24 PM
Wind storms in Europe are really only named in some countries (UK, Ireland) - take 'ex-Ophelia' for example.
bad example. While it was part of the windstorm season, it wasn't named in it as it had already been named and they decided not to rename it 'Brian'.

Norway called Desmond 'Synne'. Angus was 'Nannette' in France, Belgium, Netherlands and Germany. 'Some countries' seems to be most of them that get Atlantic weather! Denmark and Sweden also name storms that are relevant to them. France, Spain and Portugal announced co-ordinated systematic names at the beginning of last month and have had Ana, Bruno and Carmen.

I gather the UK & Ireland and Franco-Iberian names list will be co-ordinated so as to be the same next season. At least that will mean less chance of having to pronounce Gaelic names (it's phonetic, but with different sounds to English). I'd imagine that the Dutch, Danes, Deutsch, etc will want in too and will have one Europe-wide system for naming North Atlantic extra-tropical cyclones.
The Met Office in the UK names winter storms.
Not quite. The Met Office, along with Met Éireann, name winter storms.

We had Eleanor (very English name - even though it's Greek via Provençal) earlier this week, and the next one will be Fionn (very Irish name that English people can't pronounce properly - I gather it's Fy-unn).
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: 02 Park Ave on March 02, 2018, 10:39:07 AM
Has W.S. Riley been classified as a bombogenesis yet?
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: froggie on March 02, 2018, 12:51:16 PM
W.S. what...?
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: US71 on March 02, 2018, 12:52:12 PM
Has W.S. Riley been classified as a bombogenesis yet?

Yes
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: MNHighwayMan on March 02, 2018, 04:11:49 PM
W.S. what...?

Winter Storm Riley. It's The Weather Channel's weak-ass, lame system of naming particularly impactful storms.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: US71 on March 02, 2018, 05:08:22 PM
W.S. what...?

Winter Storm Riley. It's The Weather Channel's weak-ass, lame system of naming particularly impactful storms.

Riley will likely be followed by W.S. Quinn
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: jp the roadgeek on March 02, 2018, 09:18:33 PM
W.S. what...?

Winter Storm Riley. It's The Weather Channel's weak-ass, lame system of naming particularly impactful storms.
An idea that was stolen from a station here in Hartford that has been naming winter storms for over 50 years.  This particular storm was not named because most of the area received rain, with only higher elevations getting significant snow.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: Alps on March 03, 2018, 12:47:01 AM
W.S. what...?

Winter Storm Riley. It's The Weather Channel's weak-ass, lame system of naming particularly impactful storms.

Riley will likely be followed by W.S. Quinn
Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman?
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: MNHighwayMan on March 03, 2018, 12:50:44 AM
W.S. what...?
Winter Storm Riley. It's The Weather Channel's weak-ass, lame system of naming particularly impactful storms.
Riley will likely be followed by W.S. Quinn
Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman?

Now that's a throwback to a time I thought I'd largely forgotten. I remember my mom watching re-runs of that while I was a young-ish kid. Hell, I wasn't even a year old when the show originally first started airing.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: froggie on March 03, 2018, 07:54:31 AM
W.S. what...?

Winter Storm Riley. It's The Weather Channel's weak-ass, lame system of naming particularly impactful storms.

Oh I know.  My point was that those of us who do REAL, operational meteorology (as opposed to showtime ratings grabs) do not use such names.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: MNHighwayMan on March 03, 2018, 09:16:43 AM
Oh I know.  My point was that those of us who do REAL, operational meteorology (as opposed to showtime ratings grabs) do not use such names.

Ah, right. Sometimes it's hard to tell seriousness from sarcasm on the Internet. ;-)
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: US71 on March 03, 2018, 10:12:36 AM
W.S. what...?

Winter Storm Riley. It's The Weather Channel's weak-ass, lame system of naming particularly impactful storms.

Oh I know.  My point was that those of us who do REAL, operational meteorology (as opposed to showtime ratings grabs) do not use such names.

"The National Weather Service does not name winter storms because a winter storm's impact can vary from one location to another, and storms can weaken and redevelop, making it difficult to define where one ends and another begins"
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: Hurricane Rex on March 04, 2018, 02:37:02 AM
W.S. what...?

Winter Storm Riley. It's The Weather Channel's weak-ass, lame system of naming particularly impactful storms.

Oh I know.  My point was that those of us who do REAL, operational meteorology (as opposed to showtime ratings grabs) do not use such names.
Only tropical systems deserve to be named.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: US71 on March 04, 2018, 10:10:37 AM
W.S. what...?

Winter Storm Riley. It's The Weather Channel's weak-ass, lame system of naming particularly impactful storms.

Oh I know.  My point was that those of us who do REAL, operational meteorology (as opposed to showtime ratings grabs) do not use such names.
Only tropical systems deserve to be named.

“The Weather Channel has confused media spin with science and public safety.” --  AccuWeather President Joel Myers
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: 02 Park Ave on March 05, 2018, 01:46:50 PM
The next nor'easter, called by some "W.S. Quinn", is anticipated to hit the U.S. east coast Wednesday night.

All of the damaged caused by the previous nor'easter, called by some "W.S. Riley", has not been taken care of yet and may not have been by then.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: US71 on March 05, 2018, 01:55:23 PM
The next nor'easter, called by some "W.S. Quinn", is anticipated to hit the U.S. east coast Wednesday night.

All of the damaged caused by the previous nor'easter, called by some "W.S. Riley", has not been taken care of yet and may not have been by then.

Only on The Weather Channel does R come before Q
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 05, 2018, 02:10:05 PM
The next nor'easter, called by some "W.S. Quinn", is anticipated to hit the U.S. east coast Wednesday night.

All of the damaged caused by the previous nor'easter, called by some "W.S. Riley", has not been taken care of yet and may not have been by then.

Only on The Weather Channel does R come before Q

It didn't.

Quinn has been a slow-moving storm, which stared in the Pacific Northwest on 2/28.  Riley was a faster storm, which didn't approach the US until 3/1.  Even though the Weather Channel shouldn't be naming these storms anyway, Quinn technically did form and hit the US prior to Riley.

Now, in reality, here's another issue with these storms that you typically don't see with tropical storms.  Quinn is drifting across the country, and will meet up with another low pressure system off the VA/NC coast, and move northwards.  In the tropical storm world, these two systems would have had separate identities.  In the Weather Channel world, they will just mostly ignore that 2nd low pressure system, and simply give it the identity of the 1st low pressure system.

Being that nearly no one remembers what storms A-P were named and what they did, anything the Weather Channel wants to do is pretty much made up anyway, and by Friday no one will remember this one either.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: froggie on March 05, 2018, 04:59:03 PM
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/81442242/welcome-to-the-weather-channel-where-the-names-are-imaginary-and-the-storms-dont-matter.jpg)
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: jp the roadgeek on March 05, 2018, 08:57:20 PM
The next nor'easter, called by some "W.S. Quinn", is anticipated to hit the U.S. east coast Wednesday night.

All of the damaged caused by the previous nor'easter, called by some "W.S. Riley", has not been taken care of yet and may not have been by then.

Around here, it will be called Winter Storm Elsa.

www.wfsb.com/story/36804227/channel-3s-reporters-name-this-seasons-storms
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: ET21 on March 06, 2018, 12:46:28 PM
Around here, it was called a late winter storm system
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: 02 Park Ave on March 06, 2018, 10:36:39 PM
Verizon has sent out an e-mail this evening advising their customers on how to recover from the forthcoming storm.  They identify the storm as "Winter Storm Quinn" several times in the notification.

The odd thing is that Verizon dropped The Weather Channel from their fios TV system several years ago and now they are using The Weather Channel's name for the storm.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: US71 on March 06, 2018, 10:56:39 PM
Verizon has sent out an e-mail this evening advising their customers on how to recover from the forthcoming storm.  They identify the storm as "Winter Storm Quinn" several times in the notification.

The odd thing is that Verizon dropped The Weather Channel from their fios TV system several years ago and now they are using The Weather Channel's name for the storm.

Quinn, you say?

(http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/2016/11/gerrit-graham-as-q2-star-trek-voyager-death-wish-0.jpg)
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: Interstate 69 Fan on March 07, 2018, 09:12:55 AM
Verizon has sent out an e-mail this evening advising their customers on how to recover from the forthcoming storm.  They identify the storm as "Winter Storm Quinn" several times in the notification.

The odd thing is that Verizon dropped The Weather Channel from their fios TV system several years ago and now they are using The Weather Channel's name for the storm.
:-D
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: 02 Park Ave on March 12, 2018, 10:29:40 PM
This current nor'easter is forecast to bombogenesis.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: US71 on March 12, 2018, 10:38:53 PM
This current nor'easter is forecast to bombogenesis.

WS Skylar
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: MNHighwayMan on March 12, 2018, 11:12:56 PM
WS Skylar

:no: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: jp the roadgeek on March 12, 2018, 11:25:02 PM
WS Skylar

:no: :rolleyes:

Winter Storm Ferris on aforementioned local station
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: 02 Park Ave on March 14, 2018, 06:27:22 PM
Still another nor'easter is forecast to strike the US east coast in a week's time.
Title: Re: Bombogenesis
Post by: US71 on March 14, 2018, 07:24:10 PM
Still another nor'easter is forecast to strike the US east coast in a week's time.

That would likely be Toby ;)