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Title: Alberta's Highways
Post by: aridawn on June 20, 2013, 07:15:08 PM
Breaking news out of Alberta.  TCH-1 and AB-1A are both closed due to washed out bridges and Culverts due to flooding from torrential rains received in the last weeks.  Rain continues to fall, calling for the evacuations in and around Canmore and Highriver.  Calgary is on alert as two major rivers, Elbow and Bow, coming from the Canmore area converge.  Traffic is being detoured up to TCH-16 heading east and west to avoid the water logged Southern Alberta region.  Here is the news report on the flooding courtesy of CTV Calgary. http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/evacuations-underway-in-canmore-1.1333644 (http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/evacuations-underway-in-canmore-1.1333644)
Title: Provision for HOV Lanes Coming to Alberta Highways
Post by: dmuzika on October 29, 2013, 02:33:49 PM
The Alberta government is looking to table a bill that allows transit-only and HOV lanes for provincial highways, with Deerfoot Trail (Hwy 2), Stony Trail (Hwy 201), Anthony Henday Drive (Hwy 216) and Hwy 63 (between Fort McMurray and the oilsands plants) as the main candidates.  Currently HOV lanes were only allowed on municipally controlled routes, such as 9 Ave SE and Centre Street in Calgary.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/calgary/Alberta+plans+only+carpool+lanes+provincial+highways/9093980/story.html
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: oscar on October 29, 2013, 04:47:12 PM
The Alberta government is looking to table a bill that allows transit-only and HOV lanes for provincial highways, with Deerfoot Trail (Hwy 2), Stony Trail (Hwy 201), Anthony Henday Drive (Hwy 216) and Hwy 63 (between Fort McMurray and the oilsands plants) as the main candidates.  Currently HOV lanes were only allowed on municipally controlled routes, such as 9 Ave SE and Centre Street in Calgary.

The use of the word "table" confused me at first.  In U.S. legislative parlance, "table" usually means "kill" (or at least postpone indefinitely).  In Canada, does it mean "put on the table" for further discussion?
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: xcellntbuy on October 29, 2013, 08:31:30 PM
To table a bill in Canadian constitutional practice is to bring the bill up for debate and discussion in the legislature by the government of the day.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: dmuzika on October 30, 2013, 11:49:19 PM
To table a bill in Canadian constitutional practice is to bring the bill up for debate and discussion in the legislature by the government of the day.

I didn't know that "table" essentially meant the opposite in U.S. legislative parlance to Canada, good to know.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: vdeane on October 31, 2013, 09:06:29 PM
The Canadian phrase comes from an old tradition in the British Parliament which involved an actual table.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: Big John on October 31, 2013, 09:08:38 PM
The opposite American phrase also came about literally placing a bill to be killed on a specified table.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: Chris on November 22, 2013, 05:18:30 PM
Southeast Stoney Trail (Highway 201) around Calgary opened to traffic today. That's 25 km of six-lane freeway.

http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/5463.htm
(they used the wrong week in the press release, they state it opened Friday 15 November, but it's Friday 22 November, perhaps they'll correct this).
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: Alps on November 22, 2013, 07:42:13 PM
Southeast Stoney Trail (Highway 201) around Calgary opened to traffic today. That's 25 km of six-lane freeway.

http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/5463.htm
(they used the wrong week in the press release, they state it opened Friday 15 November, but it's Friday 22 November, perhaps they'll correct this).
Back to Calgary I go, I suppose.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on November 22, 2013, 07:57:24 PM
I have been following the construction of both Calgary's and Edmonton's ring roads for the past little while.  While it is undoubtably great for both cities, in terms of freeway design, both 201 and 216 look pretty vanilla.  Only the Deerfood and maybe Glenmore Trail in Calgary look like they'd be any fun to drive.

Some of the roads through the foothills look promising though.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: aridawn on November 25, 2013, 11:58:43 AM
I found the Crowchild and Sarce Trails fun to drive in Calgary.  The Glenmore Trail and 16th Ave were both to crowded and packed with traffic for my taste.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: agentsteel53 on November 25, 2013, 12:04:57 PM
35 up to NWT is the one to drive...
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: dmuzika on November 25, 2013, 05:44:41 PM
I found the Crowchild and Sarce Trails fun to drive in Calgary.  The Glenmore Trail and 16th Ave were both to crowded and packed with traffic for my taste.

Sarcee Trail SW, Shaganappi Trail, and 14 St NW offer some good views of the city.  Glenmore can be busy, but during off periods it's not too bad, hopefully the city widens it to 6 lanes west of Crowchild Trail soon.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: Stephane Dumas on December 01, 2013, 02:00:37 PM
The SE gap of Stoney Trail is open,
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/southeast-ring-road-to-open-friday-1.2435992

here a couple of pictures who are posted on Skyscraperpage
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=6351793&postcount=5247
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=6349405&postcount=5215
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=6350014&postcount=5230
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: oscar on December 14, 2013, 09:12:49 AM
35 up to NWT is the one to drive...

Only if you're really into boredom. 

The only thing that keeps AB 35 from being the most boring highway ever is that, if you're lucky, you'll see a train on its way to or from Hay River NWT.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: Alps on December 14, 2013, 10:26:17 AM
35 up to NWT is the one to drive...

Only if you're really into boredom. 

The only thing that keeps AB 35 from being the most boring highway ever is that, if you're lucky, you'll see a train on its way to or from Hay River NWT.
Far from. I thoroughly enjoyed my trip up to, through, and down from NWT. I'm not bored by a landscape that vastly different than my own. Now, having to drive more than two days through the outback, that did become boring.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: Chris on December 14, 2013, 10:35:26 AM
The third bridge across the Athabasca River in Fort McMurray opened to traffic recently. The bridge has been expanded to 10 lanes. This would also make it Canada's northernmost freeway.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3702/10482132436_af48911b3e_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/governmentofalberta/10482132436/)
Highway 63 river bridges in Fort McMurray (http://www.flickr.com/photos/governmentofalberta/10482132436/) by Government of Alberta (http://www.flickr.com/people/governmentofalberta/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: Truvelo on December 16, 2013, 04:38:17 PM
I assume the unusual layout in that last picture is because it was originally one bridge and the others have been added piecemeal. Quite why such a remote outpost needs a collector distributor system is beyond me when there are plenty of busier crossings that are crying out for such a luxury.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: Brandon on December 16, 2013, 05:34:51 PM
I assume the unusual layout in that last picture is because it was originally one bridge and the others have been added piecemeal. Quite why such a remote outpost needs a collector distributor system is beyond me when there are plenty of busier crossings that are crying out for such a luxury.

The far left bridge, from Google Maps, is a truss bridge.  I'm guessing that was the first bridge here.  The middle one is the second bridge, added later when the road was divided.  The third one is the new one.  My guess is that the setup is because of the need to have both freeway and local traffic crossing the only bridge in the area.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: dmuzika on December 19, 2013, 01:32:21 PM
Fort McMurray has a bit of an interesting layout that result in major traffic issues.  There's only one highway (Hwy 63) that goes south and connects Fort McMurray to the rest of the world; it's central business area is located south of the Athabasca River while the majority if its residential area and the Oilsands plants (main employment area) are located north of the river.  With Oilsands plant development, there are a lot of oversized loads that come from the south going north where police have to close traffic and they preveously used the middle bridge.  There are a lot of non-resident workers to there is a lot more traffic than it's population would indicate.

A friend of mine used to work & live in Fort McMurrey.  He told me that there were stores that were located on the north side of the river that were charging more than the southside stores simply because of the convenience of not fighting traffic on Hwy 63.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: Chris on December 19, 2013, 02:17:29 PM
According to Alberta Transportation, the AADT on the Highway 63 bridge is 60,000 vehicles per day. That's quite high for such a remote place where all traffic is generated in the local area. The AADT further south is only 2,500 - 5,000 vpd (these parts are being twinned).
Title: Re: New Alberta Highway Shields
Post by: dmuzika on July 08, 2014, 06:28:38 PM
Alberta has revised its highway shields to reflect its logo that was updated a couple years ago.  Some of the shields are starting to show up in the Calgary region.

Here's what they have looked like for a while:

Old Primary (1-216)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Alberta_Highway_36.svg)
Source: Wikipedia; http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Alberta_Highway_36.svg

Old Secondary (500-986)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Alberta_Highway_592.svg)
Source: Wikipedia; http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Alberta_Highway_592.svg

New Primary (1-216)
(http://albertasafetysign.com/image/cache//data/TRAFFIC/IB/IB-2---Alberta-Route-Marker-for-Highway-Numbers-1-216-500x500.jpg)
Source: Alberta Safety Sign; http://albertasafetysign.com/image/cache//data/TRAFFIC/IB/IB-2---Alberta-Route-Marker-for-Highway-Numbers-1-216-500x500.jpg

New Secondary (500-986)
(http://albertasafetysign.com/image/cache//data/TRAFFIC/IB/IB-100---Alberta-Route-Marker-for-Highway-Numbers-500-986-500x500.jpg)
Source: Alberta Safety Sign; http://albertasafetysign.com/image/cache//data/TRAFFIC/IB/IB-100---Alberta-Route-Marker-for-Highway-Numbers-500-986-500x500.jpg
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: Dr Frankenstein on July 08, 2014, 10:18:58 PM
I'm usually pretty open to new sign/shield designs.

But this... meh. It's not godawful (but I'm sure most of this board thinks it is), but it's not impressive. My biggest gripe is that the stylized Alberta signature is pretty much unreadable from a moving car. My second gripe is that the numerals are too small.

For some reasons, while I don't have issues with Clearview numerals in legends, I do think it looks funky on a shield. It's not because it's the first time I see it; Ottawa and Winnipeg use it on their municipal road shields.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on July 08, 2014, 10:53:13 PM
The older Alberta legend looks pretty dated though, compared to the new stylized version.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: Alps on July 09, 2014, 08:28:21 PM
The older Alberta legend looks pretty dated though, compared to the new stylized version.
There was a period of old legend with Clearview, not reflected below. I saw it in the field last year.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on January 24, 2015, 03:03:16 PM
A selected few projects that are proposed in Alberta:

Medicine Hat By-pass:
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/projects/assets/Area_8_South/Hwy%201%20Medicine%20Hat/bypass%201.pdf

Highway 3 and Hwy 4, Lethbridge By-pass:
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/projects/assets/Area_8_South/Hwy%203%20Lethbridge/Key_Plan.pdf

Hwy 63 freeway upgrade in Fort McMurray:
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/projects/assets/Northeast/Freeway_Upgrades_Ft_Mac/Hwy63_FTMcM_freeway_overview.pdf

Hwy 2 Twinning, Peace River:
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/projects/assets/Area_1_North_West/Hwy_2_location_Plan.pdf
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: jakeroot on January 25, 2015, 03:12:30 AM
What's up with the weird bend in the Northeastern section of the Calgary Ring Road (Hwy 201)?
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: Concrete Bob on January 25, 2015, 03:58:47 AM
The odd bend in Stoney Trail (NE) where it goes from east-west to north-south is to accomodate for a future interchange for a future freeway that will head due north of the bend to join on up with QE2 somwhere north of Airdrie. 

When one heads south on Stoney Trail to the point where it turns west along the Marquis of Lorne Trail, there is an "overpowered" interchange leading to 88th Street.  88th Street is expected to be upgraded to a freeway that will extend to Alberta 2 down around Okotoks. 

When these extentions are both built, I would guess that Alberta 2 will be "routed" along the entire north-south stretch, bypassing Calgary's core altogether.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on January 25, 2015, 10:03:56 AM
I remember reading years ago, that one day TCH-1 will be re-routed east from Calgary along today's Hwy 22-X and 901.  I've always surmised that that's the reason that exit numbers haven't yet been applied to TCH-1 east of Calgary.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: dmuzika on January 26, 2015, 05:57:52 PM
I remember reading years ago, that one day TCH-1 will be re-routed east from Calgary along today's Hwy 22-X and 901.  I've always surmised that that's the reason that exit numbers haven't yet been applied to TCH-1 east of Calgary.

Probably.  Although there are only 4 interchanges between Calgary and Medicine Hat (approx 270 km); Chestermere, Hwy 9, and two interchanges serving Brooks.

Personally, I'd like to see Hwy 22X reserved as a feeder to Hwy 201 and see TCH 1 serve the city.  Instead of connecting with Hwy 22X/201 and following the edge of the city, I think TCH 1 would be better served by connecting with Hwy 560 somewhere between Strathmore & Langdon and following Glenmore Trail and Sarcee Trail to reconnect with the exisitng TCH 1 near C.O.P.  Interestingly enough, the province has a plan to convert Hwy 560 to freeway standard between Calgary and Langdon (see http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/projects/assets/Area_7_Calgary_Area/Hwy_560/Recomended_plan.pdf).  It would involve less kms of new highway than expanding Hwy 22X/901 to Gliechen.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: jakeroot on January 26, 2015, 06:03:43 PM
The odd bend in Stoney Trail (NE) where it goes from east-west to north-south is to accomodate for a future interchange for a future freeway that will head due north of the bend to join on up with QE2 somwhere north of Airdrie. 

When one heads south on Stoney Trail to the point where it turns west along the Marquis of Lorne Trail, there is an "overpowered" interchange leading to 88th Street.  88th Street is expected to be upgraded to a freeway that will extend to Alberta 2 down around Okotoks. 

When these extentions are both built, I would guess that Alberta 2 will be "routed" along the entire north-south stretch, bypassing Calgary's core altogether.

I'm guessing the future interchange is expected to look similar to the 201/88th Street interchange?
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on January 27, 2015, 09:26:24 AM
While Glenmore Trail is undoubtedly a way better routing for Hwy 1 than 16th Avenue currently is, looking from Google Maps, Glenmore Trail looks somewhat undersized to be the TCH Routing.  To me, Glenmore looks very much like an urban commuter road, more akin to the Allen Expressway in Toronto than a through truck route like a standard interstate.

I can definitely understand though, why Alberta's DOT would prefer twinning 560 instead of 901 from a cost perspective though.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: dmuzika on January 28, 2015, 01:23:44 AM
While Glenmore Trail is undoubtedly a way better routing for Hwy 1 than 16th Avenue currently is, looking from Google Maps, Glenmore Trail looks somewhat undersized to be the TCH Routing.  To me, Glenmore looks very much like an urban commuter road, more akin to the Allen Expressway in Toronto than a through truck route like a standard interstate.

I can definitely understand though, why Alberta's DOT would prefer twinning 560 instead of 901 from a cost perspective though.

I agree that Glenmore Trail is not optimal, but you can make the argument that outside of Ontario, few urban Canadian freeways are truly up to interstate standards.  In Alberta, the only ones that qualify would be Deerfoot Trail (AB 2) and the more recently constructed Stoney Trail (AB 201) and Anthony Henday Drive (AB 216).   Yellowhead Trail, TCH 16 through Edmonton, is almost as big of a mess as TCH 1 through Calgary.  Significant sections of Glenmore Trail would have to be upgraded; specifically sections west of Crowchild Trail (which will happen in conjunction with the SW Ring Road) and east of Ogden Road.  The ROW exists and the city has plans to do the freeway upgrades, but as always funding is the issue.  Stoney Trail would still exist to serve as the bypass route.

Glenmore Trail would be an 80 km/h freeway, comparable some of the Autoroutes through Montreal, but is a third the size of Montreal and a fifth the size of Toronto so there wouldn’t be the same traffic challenges.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: 7/8 on July 29, 2016, 08:37:09 PM
It sounds like the southwest portion of Calgary's ring road will finally be built :)

http://calgaryherald.com/life/homes/new-homes/s-w-ring-road-to-support-growth-of-new-communities-commercial-hubs (http://calgaryherald.com/life/homes/new-homes/s-w-ring-road-to-support-growth-of-new-communities-commercial-hubs)

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After years of negotiation and planning, preliminary work on building the southwest ring road from Glenmore Trail to Macleod Trail is finally under way. When completed, the new freeway is expected to have a huge impact on residential and transportation development in southwest Calgary.

With a completion deadline of fall 2021, the 31-kilometre link will include 14 interchanges and cut through the Tsuu T’ina Nation, west of Weaselhead Flats.

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John Hall, co-ordinator for Centre West Planning for the City of Calgary, says the new link will improve access to southeast Calgary, such as the South Health Campus and the industrial areas, and will take pressure off Macleod Trail.

Utility-relocation work began in July, with full construction expected to begin in the fall, pending a final agreement being signed with Mountain View Partners, Lamb says.

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Construction timing for the final piece of the ring-road puzzle, connecting Glenmore and Highway 1, has yet to be determined, Lamb adds.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 29, 2016, 09:09:58 PM
I heard about this.

I was actually going to start a generic 'Western Canada Road Projects' Page. This board only really covers Ontario and Quebec in detail.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: 7/8 on July 29, 2016, 09:15:19 PM
I heard about this.

I was actually going to start a generic 'Western Canada Road Projects' Page. This board only really covers Ontario and Quebec in detail.

I think that would be a great idea, since there doesn't seem to be enough demand for separate province threads. I would like to hear and learn about any projects out west :)
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: haljackey on August 14, 2017, 12:31:53 PM
Canada's first diverging diamond interchange opens in Calgary.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/diverging-diamond-interchange-opens-calgary-1.4245773 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/diverging-diamond-interchange-opens-calgary-1.4245773)

Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: srpyyc on October 29, 2017, 01:36:57 PM
Hi Folks,

Here is a road video I made of Alberta's Highway 40 through the Highwood Pass.  The highway is closed from December 15th to June 15th each year.


Thanks!

Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: jakeroot on October 29, 2017, 07:07:55 PM
Here is a road video I made of Alberta's Highway 40 through the Highwood Pass.  The highway is closed from December 15th to June 15th each year.

Interesting schedule for closing. Most of the mountain highways in my area are closed by mid November, but reopen again in late April.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: srpyyc on October 30, 2017, 01:07:57 AM
The annual closure is for wildlife protection rather than just because of the winter conditions.  Indeed, as soon as the snow clears in May, cyclists take to the closed highway in droves to enjoy a vehicle-free ride before the June 15th opening.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: bing101 on August 29, 2018, 06:21:57 PM

Here is a cool roadgeek tour by Western Canada Roads on the TransCanada Highway at Banff.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: dvferyance on March 05, 2019, 01:28:51 PM
A selected few projects that are proposed in Alberta:

Medicine Hat By-pass:
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/projects/assets/Area_8_South/Hwy%201%20Medicine%20Hat/bypass%201.pdf

Highway 3 and Hwy 4, Lethbridge By-pass:
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/projects/assets/Area_8_South/Hwy%203%20Lethbridge/Key_Plan.pdf

Hwy 63 freeway upgrade in Fort McMurray:
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/projects/assets/Northeast/Freeway_Upgrades_Ft_Mac/Hwy63_FTMcM_freeway_overview.pdf

Hwy 2 Twinning, Peace River:
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/projects/assets/Area_1_North_West/Hwy_2_location_Plan.pdf
Trans Canada highway is mostly a freeway as is through Medicine Hat they can't just simply upgrade the remainder to a freeway? Seems a lot cheaper than building a whole new bypass.
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: swiz_01 on March 06, 2019, 10:30:33 AM
A selected few projects that are proposed in Alberta:

Medicine Hat By-pass:
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/projects/assets/Area_8_South/Hwy%201%20Medicine%20Hat/bypass%201.pdf

Highway 3 and Hwy 4, Lethbridge By-pass:
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/projects/assets/Area_8_South/Hwy%203%20Lethbridge/Key_Plan.pdf

Hwy 63 freeway upgrade in Fort McMurray:
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/projects/assets/Northeast/Freeway_Upgrades_Ft_Mac/Hwy63_FTMcM_freeway_overview.pdf

Hwy 2 Twinning, Peace River:
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/projects/assets/Area_1_North_West/Hwy_2_location_Plan.pdf
Trans Canada highway is mostly a freeway as is through Medicine Hat they can't just simply upgrade the remainder to a freeway? Seems a lot cheaper than building a whole new bypass.

The non-freeway stretches through there (3 lights in Redcliff, 2 lights and an unsignalled intersection in Medicine Hat, and numerous unsignalled intersections in Dunmore) are pretty tucked in between some tight frontage roads.  Not to mention the contours of the land coming down and up from the river valley.  It definitely could be done, with some Texas-style frontage roads and ramp combinations, or some SPUIs.

Another source of local controversy about the Med. Hat bypass is that if it does take the shorter route along the southwest side, it would be disturbing prime irrigated farmland.  Where if it went the longer way around, on the northeast side, it would only be going through unirrigated farmland and bald prairie. 

Additionally, Medicine Hat has been stagnating in population and industry for some time now.  So residents feel that if you are trying to attract people and industry to the city, why would you take the highway out to where people cannot see the city?  But hey, that the Alberta Government for you.  Projects like this take ages to happen, if at all.   
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: compdude787 on March 06, 2019, 07:20:04 PM
Wouldn't it be cheaper to just upgrade the existing road to freeway than it would be to build a freeway on a new alignment?
Title: Re: Alberta's Highways
Post by: cbeach40 on March 08, 2019, 01:29:07 PM
Wouldn't it be cheaper to just upgrade the existing road to freeway than it would be to build a freeway on a new alignment?

Often, depends on how much vertical and horizontal realignment is necessary to bring it to modern freeway standards.

Likely a bypass is being selected in order to separate local and through traffic, rather than just building up once corridor for both.