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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #975 on: July 25, 2018, 09:48:20 PM »

Did CT 15 ever have a MA counterpart where I-84 currently is from the MA Line to the Mass Pike?  I think on some old maps I did see, I believe, a mention of a MA 15 where I-84 is now located within Mass.

Yes. The street name is even called "Route 15", even though it doesn't carry that designation anymore.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #976 on: July 25, 2018, 10:25:57 PM »

Then it was an upgraded expressway in MA as well.   As in CT it was the former Wibur Cross Highway that was a divided highway turned freeway later, so in Mass it was the same I take.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #977 on: July 25, 2018, 11:41:47 PM »

Correct. On October 1, 1980, CT's portion was truncated to East Hartford and MA's was eliminated (and later reassigned to the 1000 feet of roadway between RI 15 and MA 152 in Seekonk).  Many mapping programs still (erroneously) refer to Mashapaug Rd as Route 15. Maybe there should be a designation a la New Hampshire or PA that refer to roads as "Old Route xx"
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #978 on: July 26, 2018, 09:18:46 AM »

Many mapping programs still (erroneously) refer to Mashapaug Rd as Route 15.
Even the Pilot station along that road (reachable by Exit 1 off I-84 in Sturbridge, MA) lists its address on credit card receipts as Route 15.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #979 on: July 27, 2018, 06:54:10 PM »

Did CT 15 ever have a MA counterpart where I-84 currently is from the MA Line to the Mass Pike?  I think on some old maps I did see, I believe, a mention of a MA 15 where I-84 is now located within Mass.
Yes. The old MA 15 begins in Holland and ends at Main St. in Sturbridge.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #980 on: July 27, 2018, 09:48:09 PM »

I seem to remember I-86 not making it quite to the Pike at one time.  Wish I still had the Pike ticket from back then that had MA 15 marked on it.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #981 on: July 29, 2018, 11:27:05 PM »

I have added new photos from my latest tour through the I-95 Add-A-Lane Project area in Needham and Wellesley. Work is getting closer to completion. Here's the view northbound prior to the MA 9 exit:


The rest can be seen on my I-95 in Mass. Photo Gallery: http://www.malmeroads.net/mass21c/i95photos.html#addalane

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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #982 on: July 30, 2018, 09:10:39 AM »

I seem to remember I-86 not making it quite to the Pike at one time.  Wish I still had the Pike ticket from back then that had MA 15 marked on it.
Until I-86 was changed back to I-84, the toll tickets read MA 15 - even though I-86 did directly connect with the Pike.  Also, the signs for Exit 9 had I-86 and MA 15 shields on them.  When I-86 was changed back to I-84, and MA 15 removed from the freeway, the MA 15 shield was changed to a US 20 shield, and 'TO' added.  The revised legend was carried through on the 1995 re-signing project, however, US 20 has been relegated to secondary signs under the current West Stockbridge to Auburn sign project - which is logical, given that US 20 goes to neither Hartford nor NY City.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #983 on: August 01, 2018, 02:42:01 PM »

A co-worker of mine says there's a new sign on the Mass Pike in Blandford, replacing the one that says:

    HIGHEST TURNPIKE
    ELEVATION 1724 FEET

    NEXT HIGHEST ELEVATION
    ON I-90
    OACOMA, SOUTH DAKOTA
    1729 FEET

Can anyone confirm and post a picture?
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #984 on: August 01, 2018, 03:58:34 PM »

No picture...but as I was through that area on July 17th (coming back to CT from Troy, NY), I can confirm today's sign is worded differently.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #985 on: August 01, 2018, 04:16:20 PM »

A co-worker of mine says there's a new sign on the Mass Pike in Blandford, replacing the one that says:

    HIGHEST TURNPIKE
    ELEVATION 1724 FEET

    NEXT HIGHEST ELEVATION
    ON I-90
    OACOMA, SOUTH DAKOTA
    1729 FEET

Can anyone confirm and post a picture?
No photo, but here's the official sign plan with the new wording, confirmed by those who have seen the sign:

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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #986 on: August 04, 2018, 11:23:32 AM »

A co-worker of mine says there's a new sign on the Mass Pike in Blandford, replacing the one that says:

    HIGHEST TURNPIKE
    ELEVATION 1724 FEET

    NEXT HIGHEST ELEVATION
    ON I-90
    OACOMA, SOUTH DAKOTA
    1729 FEET

Can anyone confirm and post a picture?

I can confirm; I reported this earlier in this thread:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=10638.msg2340362#msg2340362
« Last Edit: August 04, 2018, 11:26:25 AM by empirestate »
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #987 on: August 22, 2018, 06:22:17 PM »

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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #988 on: August 22, 2018, 11:18:44 PM »

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3378746,-71.2671506,3a,60y,127.01h,66.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sa7_i5KDxInmBzYl-Mqdw7A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Some button copy goodness I found...no idea if it's still there,
No, this sign, and other entrance ramps signs, was replaced when All Electronic Tolling went into effect at the end of October 2016:


More AET sign images available at: http://www.malmeroads.net/mass21c/i90photos.html#aet

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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #989 on: August 23, 2018, 09:06:38 AM »

I know the reasoning behind using Series C or D (?) lettering for the control cities is due to this sign being designed to MassDOT's new (post-paddle) D6 standards but IMHO, either Series E should have been used here.  Such easily fits this sign panel.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #990 on: August 23, 2018, 10:23:38 AM »

Did CT 15 ever have a MA counterpart where I-84 currently is from the MA Line to the Mass Pike?  I think on some old maps I did see, I believe, a mention of a MA 15 where I-84 is now located within Mass.
Yes, I remember seeing that in old maps, especially when I-86 was signed on that section instead.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #991 on: August 23, 2018, 10:50:42 AM »

MA 15 was also on old (early 1980s) Pike tickets.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #992 on: August 23, 2018, 11:43:48 AM »

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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #993 on: August 23, 2018, 09:48:47 PM »

What exactly is wrong with the Washington Bridge?  Drove over it recently prior to construction and it didn't look like it needed repair.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #994 on: August 23, 2018, 10:03:41 PM »

Per WJAR, it's been more than 20 years since the westbound portion of the Washington Bridge was repaired.

https://turnto10.com/news/local/construction-on-interstate-195-west-to-start-sunday-night
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #995 on: August 27, 2018, 07:32:20 PM »

I heard this report that mentioned congestion pricing today:

https://www.wgbh.org/news/local-news/2018/08/26/traffic-congestion-is-there-any-way-out
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #996 on: August 28, 2018, 10:56:18 AM »

I know the reasoning behind using Series C or D (?) lettering for the control cities is due to this sign being designed to MassDOT's new (post-paddle) D6 standards but IMHO, either Series E should have been used here.  Such easily fits this sign panel.
MassDPW's original D6/D8 (paddle) sign standards did call for variable font depending on legend length.  That is something they will be revisiting as they refine their new LGS standards.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #997 on: August 29, 2018, 11:23:08 PM »

I recall when the DCR was created some of the old MDC roads were transferred to MassDOT.  Is there a good source of info on which?  The MassDOT roads shapefile says MassDOT owns Route 16 in Medford, but some locals say this isn't the case.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #998 on: August 30, 2018, 10:48:09 AM »

I recall when the DCR was created some of the old MDC roads were transferred to MassDOT.  Is there a good source of info on which?  The MassDOT roads shapefile says MassDOT owns Route 16 in Medford, but some locals say this isn't the case.
The transfer of Route 16 from DCR to MassDOT is fairly recent, and may still be in process AFAIK.  And most of the old MDC roads are still under DCR jurisdiction - it's only snow removal and other maintenance on the major parkways (Storrow Drive, Soldiers Field Road, VFW Parkway for examples) that has been transferred to MassDOT.  This change occurred shortly after a winter where some pedestrians were struck by cars - they were forced to walk in the road because the sidewalks hadn't been cleared.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #999 on: August 30, 2018, 10:50:31 AM »

Drove through the new roundabout in Beverly at exit 18 (MA128 @ MA22). Overall it's easier to make that left onto 22 North. Not sure how I feel about the paddle signs though. Interestingly this project was fully funded by the city, as they wanted to get it done as soon as possible.

Also NJ has taken over part of MA 22 in Hamilton. :)

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