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Walmart gas stations
« on: May 23, 2019, 12:52:07 AM »

A lot of people don't realize that the "Walmart" gas stations are actually Murphy USA gas stations, although the signs clearly show this.  In Fort Stockton, Texas outside of a Walmart Supercenter I saw an actual Walmart branded gas station.  How common are these?  I've noticed only one.

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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2019, 01:06:34 AM »

Ive only ever seen them in Florida. 

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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2019, 02:17:00 AM »

Murphy Oil is actually an independent company that had a deal to operate gas stations in Walmart outparcels. They are not owned by Walmart. Within the last few years, the agreement between Walmart and Murphy was ended, so new Walmarts have Walmart-branded stations.
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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2019, 02:21:31 AM »

A lot of people don't realize that the "Walmart" gas stations are actually Murphy USA gas stations, although the signs clearly show this.  In Fort Stockton, Texas outside of a Walmart Supercenter I saw an actual Walmart branded gas station.  How common are these?  I've noticed only one.

https://goo.gl/maps/E6VXuXXu13txTBSq5

Actually,
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/02/04/walmart-to-operate-own-gas-stations-going-forward/79809480/
https://consumerist.com/2016/02/04/walmart-ditching-murphy-usa-after-20-years-will-run-its-own-gas-stations-going-forward/

All the new ones I've seen in my area have since been Walmart-branded only, but the Murphy ones from before that deal ended are still on-site and branded as Murphy.  I've seen 1 or 2 post-Walmart new Murphy locations and neither are anywhere near a Walmart store.
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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2019, 02:44:58 AM »

I have seen (2) Walmart branded gas stations built alongside Neighborhood Market stores in my area recently.  There are also several standalone Murphy Express stations in my area, one being across the street from a Walmart.  So even though Murphy is no longer partnering with Walmart to build new stations on their immediate outparcels, they are definitely not losing business as a result.  Their Express stations are pretty nice on the inside, much like a Circle K or 7-11, but no fresh food offerings a la Sheetz or Wawa.
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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2019, 06:31:37 AM »

Yeah, a lot of the Walmart Neighborhood Market stores (including the one in my area) have Walmart-branded gas stations. Here, they often have the cheapest gas.

The Walmart Express stores also had Walmart-branded gas stations before they all closed. Dollar General took over most of the Express stores, including the gas pumps. Dollar General gas stations was something I never thought Id see.
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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2019, 07:15:11 AM »

Whatever the brand, it's all the same has unless it's a tier 1 brand (Sunoco, Exxon, etc).
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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2019, 07:26:02 AM »

Whatever the brand, it's all the same has unless it's a tier 1 brand (Sunoco, Exxon, etc).

Even then, it's the same.  It come from the same refinery and some "additives" of dubious quality are added.  All you really need is the EPA mandated amount of detergent in the fuel.  Anything else is extra crap that doesn't make your vehicle move.
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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2019, 08:26:03 AM »

Murphy Oil is actually an independent company that had a deal to operate gas stations in Walmart outparcels.

and they have two different brands: "Murphy USA" which are located in Walmart outparcels and accept Walmart gift cards & "Murphy Express" which are independent locations that do not accept Walmart gift cards.

I first learned of this distinction when I tried to use a Walmart gift card at a Murphy station across from the Walmart in Norton, VA. Turns out it was actually one of the Murphy Expresses, and just happened to be located right across from Walmart. 
 
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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2019, 08:29:13 AM »

Whatever the brand, it's all the same has unless it's a tier 1 brand (Sunoco, Exxon, etc).

Even then, it's the same.  It come from the same refinery and some "additives" of dubious quality are added.  All you really need is the EPA mandated amount of detergent in the fuel.  Anything else is extra crap that doesn't make your vehicle move.

Yep.  Until it "shut down", we lived a mile away from a Sunoco Refinery, and while a lot of the trucks were Sunoco trucks, you'd see unbranded trucks enter and exit all the time.

"Shut down" is in quotes because while it was widely reported it was shutting down, some of the tanks in the tank farm are still used for holding some sort of fuel/oil, and there is some trucking activity going in and out.  But clearly nowhere near the activity that it used to have.
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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2019, 04:19:01 AM »

The Walmart Express stores also had Walmart-branded gas stations before they all closed. Dollar General took over most of the Express stores, including the gas pumps. Dollar General gas stations was something I never thought Id see.

In TX, many of the Express (which used the Neighborhood Market label instead) locations that closed got snapped up by a regional grocery chain from east TX, and they were renamed Spring Market.  The fuel areas were retained in the transition, but the pharmacy sections were not.  Most towns that had the small-format Walmarts which became Spring Market stores were relieved to see that the locations were acquired and reopened.  They were mostly in areas that had either no grocery store, or previously had a local grocery that was pressured to the point of closing, due to the effect of Walmart's presence at the time.
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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2019, 01:52:01 PM »

Whatever the brand, it's all the same has unless it's a tier 1 brand (Sunoco, Exxon, etc).

Even then, it's the same.  It come from the same refinery and some "additives" of dubious quality are added.  All you really need is the EPA mandated amount of detergent in the fuel.  Anything else is extra crap that doesn't make your vehicle move.

A few years ago, I followed a Sheetz gas tanker truck out of the Marathon Ashland refinery in Catlettsburg, Ky., across the river into West Virginia. I guess it's cheaper or more economical for Sheetz to buy gas for its stations in the I-64 corridor there, rather than transport it from Pennsylvania or wherever else they usually bring it from.
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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2019, 02:56:14 PM »

Whatever the brand, it's all the same has unless it's a tier 1 brand (Sunoco, Exxon, etc).

Even then, it's the same.  It come from the same refinery and some "additives" of dubious quality are added.  All you really need is the EPA mandated amount of detergent in the fuel.  Anything else is extra crap that doesn't make your vehicle move.

A few years ago, I followed a Sheetz gas tanker truck out of the Marathon Ashland refinery in Catlettsburg, Ky., across the river into West Virginia. I guess it's cheaper or more economical for Sheetz to buy gas for its stations in the I-64 corridor there, rather than transport it from Pennsylvania or wherever else they usually bring it from.

Not uncommon at all.  Transportation costs can eat a lot into bringing refined fuel to a station.  It's why some of the most expensive stations in the US are along the Dalton Highway in spite of the pipeline nearby.  It's refined in southern Alaska and trucked back north.  Around Chicago, your fuel is coming one of three sources typically: BP Whiting, Citgo Romeoville/Lemont, or ExxonMobil Joliet.  Out of those, you'll see trucks for ExxonMobil, Shell, Thornton's, Pilot/Flying J, Love's, Kenan Advantage, etc.
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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2019, 11:08:27 PM »

That's strange, because I thought the USA station outside the Renton WalMart has been a USA for decades back when it was a Gov-Mart Bazaar.  Both Renton and Burien had Gov-Marts, and both had similar USA stations, and both have now been rebranded as Mobil.  Here's the Renton location, still with ghost USA lettering visible, and here is the Burien location with similar architecture.  Maybe my memory is faulty and the Renton station was another brand before WalMart went up across the parking lot.
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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2019, 11:31:47 PM »

Murphy Oil is headquartered in El Dorado, Arkansas, so the relationship smacks of in-state backscratching that harkens back to the pre-David Glass days.
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Re: Walmart gas stations
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2019, 11:33:32 PM »

The one on Goldenrod Road is just a Walmart Station and no Murphy Brand.  I believe the Old Lake Wilson Road Walmart has a Walmart Station in Kissimmee, FL too.
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