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Re: This is true? - Geographic oddities that defy conventional wisdom
« Reply #925 on: February 10, 2019, 12:12:42 PM »

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but the city limits of Anchorage Alaska (1963 sq mi) are larger than the entire state of Rhode Island (1212 sq mi) and approximately the size of the entire state of Delaware (1981 sq mi).
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« Reply #926 on: February 10, 2019, 03:17:50 PM »

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but the city limits of Anchorage Alaska (1963 sq mi) are larger than the entire state of Rhode Island (1212 sq mi) and approximately the size of the entire state of Delaware (1981 sq mi).
And I wonder how they plow that entire area after the snowfall...
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« Reply #927 on: February 10, 2019, 03:53:28 PM »

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but the city limits of Anchorage Alaska (1963 sq mi) are larger than the entire state of Rhode Island (1212 sq mi) and approximately the size of the entire state of Delaware (1981 sq mi).
And I wonder how they plow that entire area after the snowfall...

The City of Anchorage used to be much smaller. It consolidated with the former Greater Anchorage Area Borough, which swept into the new Anchorage Municipality several outlying communities that are not separately incorporated, and a lot of uninhabited mountains. The city limits thus encompass a lot of empty territory that has to go somewhere, and doesn't really belong in a neighboring borough like Kenai Peninsula or Matanuska-Susitna.

Alaska has other consolidated city-boroughs that are far larger in land area than Anchorage Municipality. The largest one is Yakutat city-borough, with more than ten times as many square miles within its boundaries (7,650) as residents (662). The Juneau, Sitka, Haines, and Wrangell city-boroughs also are larger than Anchorage.
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Re: This is true? - Geographic oddities that defy conventional wisdom
« Reply #928 on: February 10, 2019, 05:58:05 PM »

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but the city limits of Anchorage Alaska (1963 sq mi) are larger than the entire state of Rhode Island (1212 sq mi) and approximately the size of the entire state of Delaware (1981 sq mi).
And I wonder how they plow that entire area after the snowfall...

The City of Anchorage used to be much smaller. It consolidated with the former Greater Anchorage Area Borough, which swept into the new Anchorage Municipality several outlying communities that are not separately incorporated, and a lot of uninhabited mountains. The city limits thus encompass a lot of empty territory that has to go somewhere, and doesn't really belong in a neighboring borough like Kenai Peninsula or Matanuska-Susitna.

Alaska has other consolidated city-boroughs that are far larger in land area than Anchorage Municipality. The largest one is Yakutat city-borough, with more than ten times as many square miles within its boundaries (7,650) as residents (662). The Juneau, Sitka, Haines, and Wrangell city-boroughs also are larger than Anchorage.

If I remember correctly, those consolidated city-boroughs are larger in land area than any other city in the United States. Jacksonville is the largest city by land area in the United States after the consolidated city-boroughs in Alaska, with a land area of 747 sq mi.

Also Dane County is larger than Rhode Island. Talk about how small Rhode Island is.
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Re: This is true? - Geographic oddities that defy conventional wisdom
« Reply #929 on: February 10, 2019, 06:07:15 PM »

It takes less time to drive from Pensacola to Columbus, Ohio than Key West.
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« Reply #930 on: February 10, 2019, 11:58:34 PM »

It takes less time to drive from Pensacola to Columbus, Ohio than Key West.

That reminds me of how on I-10 in Texas it's faster to drive to either side of the country than to the other side of Texas. If you're in El Paso, it takes less time to drive to San Diego than it does to drive to the other side of Texas in Orange. Likewise, if you're in Orange, TX, it takes less time to drive to Jacksonville, FL than it does to El Paso.

Also at the far northern end of California, it is faster to drive the Canadian border than to San Diego.
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Re: This is true? - Geographic oddities that defy conventional wisdom
« Reply #931 on: February 11, 2019, 06:17:31 AM »

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but the city limits of Anchorage Alaska (1963 sq mi) are larger than the entire state of Rhode Island (1212 sq mi) and approximately the size of the entire state of Delaware (1981 sq mi).
And I wonder how they plow that entire area after the snowfall...
The City of Anchorage used to be much smaller. It consolidated with the former Greater Anchorage Area Borough, which swept into the new Anchorage Municipality several outlying communities that are not separately incorporated, and a lot of uninhabited mountains. The city limits thus encompass a lot of empty territory that has to go somewhere, and doesn't really belong in a neighboring borough like Kenai Peninsula or Matanuska-Susitna.

Alaska has other consolidated city-boroughs that are far larger in land area than Anchorage Municipality. The largest one is Yakutat city-borough, with more than ten times as many square miles within its boundaries (7,650) as residents (662). The Juneau, Sitka, Haines, and Wrangell city-boroughs also are larger than Anchorage.
If I remember correctly, those consolidated city-boroughs are larger in land area than any other city in the United States. Jacksonville is the largest city by land area in the United States after the consolidated city-boroughs in Alaska, with a land area of 747 sq mi.

Also Dane County is larger than Rhode Island. Talk about how small Rhode Island is.

This is how Phoenix, Arizona, has been growing in population, passing the size of other cities. It's not because it's population is growing, it's because it keeps annexing more suburbs.
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Re: This is true? - Geographic oddities that defy conventional wisdom
« Reply #932 on: February 11, 2019, 08:24:05 AM »

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but the city limits of Anchorage Alaska (1963 sq mi) are larger than the entire state of Rhode Island (1212 sq mi) and approximately the size of the entire state of Delaware (1981 sq mi).
And I wonder how they plow that entire area after the snowfall...
The City of Anchorage used to be much smaller. It consolidated with the former Greater Anchorage Area Borough, which swept into the new Anchorage Municipality several outlying communities that are not separately incorporated, and a lot of uninhabited mountains. The city limits thus encompass a lot of empty territory that has to go somewhere, and doesn't really belong in a neighboring borough like Kenai Peninsula or Matanuska-Susitna.

Alaska has other consolidated city-boroughs that are far larger in land area than Anchorage Municipality. The largest one is Yakutat city-borough, with more than ten times as many square miles within its boundaries (7,650) as residents (662). The Juneau, Sitka, Haines, and Wrangell city-boroughs also are larger than Anchorage.
If I remember correctly, those consolidated city-boroughs are larger in land area than any other city in the United States. Jacksonville is the largest city by land area in the United States after the consolidated city-boroughs in Alaska, with a land area of 747 sq mi.

Also Dane County is larger than Rhode Island. Talk about how small Rhode Island is.

This is how Phoenix, Arizona, has been growing in population, passing the size of other cities. It's not because it's population is growing, it's because it keeps annexing more suburbs.
I've heard this is what happened with Middletown DE and Smyrna DE, although there's also been a lot of construction in those towns.
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Re: This is true? - Geographic oddities that defy conventional wisdom
« Reply #933 on: March 09, 2019, 02:29:47 AM »

Jefferson County, WA is split in half by the Olympic Mountains, which means traveling from its coastal towns to the county seat in Port Townsend requires going around via Clallam County.

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« Reply #935 on: April 28, 2019, 05:55:24 PM »

I read somewhere that Evansville, IN is closer to Pensacola than is Key West. I looked it up, and it's true - by driving, Evansville is 600 miles and Key West is 830.  :wow:
Florida is closer to the Midwest than it is to Florida  :colorful:
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« Reply #936 on: April 28, 2019, 05:58:55 PM »

I read somewhere that Evansville, IN is closer to Pensacola than is Key West. I looked it up, and it's true - by driving, Evansville is 600 miles and Key West is 830.  :wow:
Florida is closer to the Midwest than it is to Florida  :colorful:

This is one reason why the Dixie Highway was routed to and from the Midwest, where there are historic connections with the Lincoln Highway and other historic roads and trails, etc.
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Re: This is true? - Geographic oddities that defy conventional wisdom
« Reply #937 on: May 09, 2019, 05:02:18 PM »

My brother and I were talking about places he could drive to in order to catch a cruise, in the instance driving might be cheaper than flying. Baltimore was first choice. Among the other cities he listed were Norfolk and Charleston, SC. I was a bit surprised to find that Charleston is closer than Norfolk. It doesn't seem logical considering that Kentucky and Virginia are neighbors, while there are at least two states (VA/NC, TN/NC, or TN/GA) between Kentucky and South Carolina.
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« Reply #938 on: May 09, 2019, 10:35:33 PM »

Among the other cities he listed were Norfolk and Charleston, SC. I was a bit surprised to find that Charleston is closer than Norfolk.

From where? I know you live near Stanton.
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« Reply #939 on: May 10, 2019, 06:32:27 PM »

Among the other cities he listed were Norfolk and Charleston, SC. I was a bit surprised to find that Charleston is closer than Norfolk.

From where? I know you live near Stanton.

He's right in the middle of the Golden Triangle. Owen County.
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« Reply #940 on: May 11, 2019, 10:19:28 AM »

It's almost exactly the same distance in a straight line from Montréal to the Gulf of Mexico as it is to the north cape of Québec.

In fact, from the southern Québec border it's approximately the same distance to the northernmost point of the province as it is to the Bahamas.

Québec is pretty huge. It's also the same distance south to north as San Diego is to Vancouver.

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« Reply #941 on: May 11, 2019, 02:37:42 PM »

When messing around with Maps I was surprised when I learned it’s still over 1,000 miles from Houlton, ME to the eastern tip of Newfoundland.
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« Reply #942 on: May 11, 2019, 09:24:59 PM »

Québec is pretty huge. It's also the same distance south to north as San Diego is to Vancouver.
Which Vancouver?
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« Reply #943 on: May 11, 2019, 09:26:25 PM »

Québec is pretty huge. It's also the same distance south to north as San Diego is to Vancouver.
Which Vancouver?

I assume Canada.
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« Reply #944 on: May 12, 2019, 09:08:37 AM »

Québec is pretty huge. It's also the same distance south to north as San Diego is to Vancouver.
Which Vancouver?

I assume Canada.

Or perhaps Vancouver, Washington.
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« Reply #945 on: May 12, 2019, 10:09:01 AM »

Québec is pretty huge. It's also the same distance south to north as San Diego is to Vancouver.
Which Vancouver?

I assume Canada.

Or perhaps Vancouver, Washington.
Doubtful.
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« Reply #946 on: May 12, 2019, 11:30:18 AM »

Québec is pretty huge. It's also the same distance south to north as San Diego is to Vancouver.
Which Vancouver?

I assume Canada.

Or perhaps Vancouver, Washington.
Doubtful.
A good tool for verifying such claims:
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http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=san-yvr&R=1200mi%40san
It seems borderline.
another fun fact to notice, though, is that San Diego to Vancouver BC is shorter than San Diego to Houston TX.
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« Reply #947 on: May 12, 2019, 05:02:45 PM »

In fact, from the southern Québec border it's approximately the same distance to the northernmost point of the province as it is to the Bahamas.

Montreal resident: "Honey, would you rather go to Nassau over Christmas or up to Ivujivic to see the Northern Lights?"

Mrs. Montreal resident: "You've gotta be f***ing kidding me!  What do you think?"

Montreal resident: "......uhhh......Nassau it is!?"
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« Reply #948 on: May 12, 2019, 05:19:43 PM »

Québec is pretty huge. It's also the same distance south to north as San Diego is to Vancouver.
Which Vancouver?

I assume Canada.

Or perhaps Vancouver, Washington.
Doubtful.

Honestly I don’t know why this trips people up so much. Vancouver, WA is just a suburb of Portland. If OP meant that one, he would have said Portland.
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« Reply #949 on: May 12, 2019, 05:42:06 PM »

Québec is pretty huge. It's also the same distance south to north as San Diego is to Vancouver.
Which Vancouver?

I assume Canada.

Or perhaps Vancouver, Washington.
Doubtful.

Honestly I don’t know why this trips people up so much. Vancouver, WA is just a suburb of Portland. If OP meant that one, he would have said Portland.
There is also some room for playing with toponyms.
For example, do you know that Amsterdam* is closer to NYC than London**?

*Amsterdam NY
** London ON
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