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Author Topic: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting  (Read 5886 times)

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Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« on: July 06, 2017, 10:29:24 AM »

So, you can't have a US highway and interstate in the same state. How about when the same number touches?  When they moved US-10 in Minnesota to the new alignment, the old one was named county 10.  I'm sure that confuses no one.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2017, 11:00:04 AM »

Kitchener has King's Highway 8 and Waterloo RR 8 side-by-side. RR 8 between Weber St and the 401 was highway 8's former alignment. This sign can be confusing for non-locals:


There's also King's Highway 24 and Norfolk CR 24 north of Simcoe, ON, where the CR is the old alignment of the highway.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2017, 11:29:25 AM »

You mean like where I-64 has an exit for IN 64 west of New Albany?
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2017, 11:37:59 AM »

So, you can't have a US highway and interstate in the same state. . . .

Except it happens. US 69 awaits I-69 in Lufkin . . . .
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2017, 11:43:44 AM »

Also the idiotic I-74 monstrosity and US 74 in, of course, NC. 

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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2017, 11:49:34 AM »

Also the idiotic I-74 monstrosity and US 74 in, of course, NC.
And I-41 and US 41 in WI.

Also, WY 89 and US 89 come really close.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2017, 12:41:49 PM »

In DE, Concord Pike at I-95 is US 202 north of the interchange & DE 202 south of the interchange.

US 3 & MA 3 meet in Cambridge (at Mass Ave./MA 2A).

I-283 & PA 283 interchange w/each other near the PA Turnpike (I-76).
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2017, 01:15:28 PM »

You mean like where I-64 has an exit for IN 64 west of New Albany?

You beat me to it.  Was going to mention that.  Also, I-265 meets IN 265 at I-65, though I imagine IN 265 is going away before too long.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2017, 01:59:12 PM »

If you include situations where a road continues under the same number but in a different class, this is not terribly uncommon.

In California, I-15, I-110, I-210, and I-238 all continue under the same number but as state routes instead of Interstates.

In Pennsylvania, US 222 continues as PA 222 in Allentown. I was also going to suggest I-378 as a historical example, but I believe the non-freeway portion south of the Lehigh River wasnít designated as PA 378 until the Interstate designation was removed.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2017, 02:48:40 PM »

When they moved US-10 in Minnesota to the new alignment, the old one was named county 10.  I'm sure that confuses no one.

It's generally a mistake one makes only once (if at all) because the traffic on county road 10/old highway 10 can be atrocious.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2017, 03:05:32 PM »

Many cases in NY State: I-787 and NY 787, I-390 and NY 390, I-590 and NY 590, I-690 and NY 690, I-890 and NY 890, I-495 and NY 495, I-481 and NY 481.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2017, 03:11:07 PM »

!-794 and WI 794 in Milwaukee.

I-20 and GA 20 interchange east of Atlanta
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2017, 03:31:22 PM »

At this intersection: https://goo.gl/eV8bpr County route 657 (https://goo.gl/HxtmHQ) meets county route 657 (https://goo.gl/nu8Uze). Same county even. There is a third CR 657 that does not cross either of these in the same county too.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2017, 03:40:43 PM »

MN 65 and US 65 used to intersect in Minneapolis where they changed over, though US 65 has now long been truncated.

-MN 61 and Lake/St. Louis County 61, the old alignment of 61 between Duluth and Two Harbors. MnDOT seems to be toning this one down a bit as they apparently removed the physical "JCT COUNTY 61" markers from MN 61.

-I-35 and Freeborn County 35 in Geneva, MN.

-MN 45 and Carlton County 45 in Cloquet.

-MN 62 and Hennepin County 62 in Eden Prairie. The county portion remains after NIMBYs stopped the planned continuation of MN 62.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2017, 03:44:15 PM »

I-73(/74) intersects NC 73 in Norman
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2017, 03:50:19 PM »

MN 65 and US 65 used to intersect in Minneapolis where they changed over, though US 65 has now long been truncated.

-MN 61 and Lake/St. Louis County 61, the old alignment of 61 between Duluth and Two Harbors. MnDOT seems to be toning this one down a bit as they apparently removed the physical "JCT COUNTY 61" markers from MN 61.

-I-35 and Freeborn County 35 in Geneva, MN.

-MN 45 and Carlton County 45 in Cloquet.

-MN 62 and Hennepin County 62 in Eden Prairie. The county portion remains after NIMBYs stopped the planned continuation of MN 62.

To add to this, MN-112 and Le Sueur CR-112 intersect:

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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2017, 04:36:39 PM »

US 36 intersects CO 36 (an old routing of US 36/40/287) in Byers. I believe there is also a CO 40 in that area, but it doesn't show up on Wikipedia.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2017, 04:45:31 PM »

GA 20 has an exit on I-20; the State Route is north/south, which is a good idea:

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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2017, 05:37:18 PM »

GA 20 has an exit on I-20; the State Route is north/south, which is a good idea:

Well, it is right there, at least - turn onto GA 20 here (in either direction) and follow it far enough, and the signs will eventually start saying "WEST". But it's well away from I-20 by then.

Several other examples in the Peach State: US 27 intersects GA 27, for instance. And perhaps best of all, the US 23/GA 23 concurrency in southeast Georgia.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2017, 06:01:52 PM »

I was also going to suggest I-378 as a historical example, but I believe the non-freeway portion south of the Lehigh River wasnít designated as PA 378 until the Interstate designation was removed.
Correct.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2017, 07:35:40 PM »

US and VA 360.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2017, 08:00:41 PM »

How about State Routes that share the same number across the State Lines?

IL/MO 110 comes to mind

Similar to I-265 in IN, I-255 in IL continues north of its Interstate designation terminus @ I-270 as IL 255 (still a freeway)

This may be cheating, but IL 43/Harlem Ave and 43rd St near Chicago -- but calling these roads "highways" is a stretch -- a city street and a busy Arterial

Ogden Ave and 34th St is close to here as well, but it is east of Harlem/IL 43, and Ogden loses its US 34 designation at Harlem

US 41/Indianapolis Blvd in Highland, IN has the local 41st St as a Cross Street

I can locate more of the Numbered Route and Street Number crossings, but I think I will stop, as I don't think its the spirit of the OP's request
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2017, 08:15:31 PM »

So, you can't have a US highway and interstate in the same state.
Is this is a serious rule?

They are in different parts of the state, but IL has I-24 in Southern IL, and US 24 in Central IL

Unless the statement is to mean a US Highway and Interstate cannot meet and/or be concurrent in the same state. That, I am down with, except for WI, NC, and someday TX
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2017, 10:30:54 PM »

So, you can't have a US highway and interstate in the same state.
Is this is a serious rule?

Yes, and until the 74/74 and 41/41 abominations came along, to the best of my knowledge Illinois had the only exception, with the reasoning being that the two routes were so far apart that no one would get them confused.
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Re: Same number concurrencies or highways meeting
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2017, 11:16:40 PM »

How about State Routes that share the same number across the State Lines?

IL/MO 110 comes to mind

Similar to I-265 in IN, I-255 in IL continues north of its Interstate designation terminus @ I-270 as IL 255 (still a freeway)

This may be cheating, but IL 43/Harlem Ave and 43rd St near Chicago -- but calling these roads "highways" is a stretch -- a city street and a busy Arterial

Ogden Ave and 34th St is close to here as well, but it is east of Harlem/IL 43, and Ogden loses its US 34 designation at Harlem

US 41/Indianapolis Blvd in Highland, IN has the local 41st St as a Cross Street

I can locate more of the Numbered Route and Street Number crossings, but I think I will stop, as I don't think its the spirit of the OP's request

State Route 200 in ID/MT/ND/MN.
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