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Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« on: July 08, 2017, 10:37:34 AM »

Jackie Gleason on the Honeymooners who used to threaten his wife with his fists and making the famous lines "You're going to the moon." 

Ed Asner, as Lou Grant in Mary Tyler Moore, where he told Mary in the pilot episode " Hey Mary you have a nice caboose" meaning he though her ass was hot, as in those days all freight trains used cabooses at the rear of the train.

Ricky Ricardo on I Love Lucy spanking Lucy.

Those were classic and made TV funny, but with today's worlds standards and the escalation of acts of men toward women being degrading, modern television would not allow this thing as political activists groups would be making headlines and protesting the networks if a show like these were aired today.


Here is another twist All In The Family which allowed for censorship to be relaxed such as allowing phrases "What the Hell" and  allowing the toilet to be mentioned (and heard) plus allowing politics to be talked about on network TV and subjects such as the Vietnam protests and women's lib, along with talking about sexual promiscuous and the related were taboo as Rolling Stones when on the Ed Sullivan Show had to change the lyrics to their hit song Lets Spend The Night Together to  as the hint of sex could not even be mentioned at all originally, would not be allowed in today's world either.

Then look at the Honeymooners again, and What's Happening which used humor derived at poking fun at overweight people.  That is a big no no today.  I do not even think that Good Times or Maude (two more Norman Lear programs) could not be aired today with their controversial themes. 

It seems like slapstick comedy, obese jokes,  funny statements about punching females and commentary are not at all acceptable many decades later.  Any other things about modern television that changed comedy or even drama that can't be aired today?
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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2017, 11:00:57 AM »

Smoking is minimal.

A group of 4 friends has about 78 races and nationalities among them, in order not to offend anyone.

Remember many years ago the biggest issue was glasses?  Usually a group of kids had at least one wearing glasses, so that kids with glasses watching the show would feel like they would fit in.
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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2017, 11:12:23 AM »

Yes that is a great one.  Smoking!  As previous stars would smoke on camera, nowadays with the clean air act, nobody dares to feature them except when making a point about smoking being bad.

The last shows I remember were back in the 80's. Simon & Simon, where Gerald McRainey lit up smokes while playing Rick Simon was the last of that era with maybe a little spillage into the 90's.
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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2017, 11:54:07 AM »

For over-the-air TV, Sanford & Son.

(Warning: NSFW)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7HQiqvwQ5Xk
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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2017, 11:59:37 AM »

This segment from the mid-90s on a satire of the news would never get on the BBC today.
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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2017, 12:14:27 PM »

Old Motorweek episodes reference Asian automakers as "Orientals" which would probably be considered derogatory today.  There are a ton of them on the 70s, 80s, and 90s car thread.

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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2017, 12:34:19 PM »

On Married With Children, Al Bundy always made fun of overweight women.

On the first episode of MTV's "The Real World", they featured a gay guy with AIDS, as if to suggest that all or almost all gays had AIDS.

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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2017, 03:19:47 PM »

People today don't realize that some famous classic cartoons such as Looney Tunes and the Flintstones were not originally intended to be for children/family viewing. It's kind of like the Simpsons and South Parks and Family Guys of today are just the evolution of animation intended for adult viewing that grew out of that era.
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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2017, 04:41:53 PM »

Flintstones and the Smoking commercials. If this commercial aired today then lawsuits would go off the charts.

Cigarette commercials were banned on radio and TV by an act of Congress, effective January 2, 1971.
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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2017, 04:46:23 PM »

Speedy Gonzales.
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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2017, 05:06:25 PM »

Several years ago, the planned showing of a series of old Charlie Chan movies was cancelled after the network bosses got cold feet over a fear of offending Asians.

:rolleyes:

Also, the old 'I can't believe I ate the whole thing' series of Pepto-Bismol ads, over fear of offending Italians.

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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2017, 05:12:51 PM »

^^ And it was a flop since people did not remember it was an Alka-Seltzer ad, along with the spicy meatball ad.

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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2017, 06:20:59 PM »



Flintstones and the Smoking commercials. If this commercial aired today then lawsuits would go off the charts.




If Flintstones did the commercial then it would have a Pepe Frog type fallout here too.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pepe-frog-creator-wants-make-him-symbol-peace-love-n779101


https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/3936554/creator-of-pepe-the-frog-white-supremacist-meme-wants-to-reclaim-him-as-universal-symbol-of-peace-and-love/






Here is the fallout here.





Candy cigarettes, remember them?  After TV commercials disappeared with Jan 1, 1971 being the last day, as was mentioned during the Rose Bowl broadcast by NBC (it can be found on Youtube), the advertising had to be sneakier.  When watching a replay of the NFC Championshop game from January 1982 ("The Catch" DAL at SF), one sees a prominent Marlboro billboard in Candlestick Park.  As restrictions on advertising got tighter, point of sale advertising got more emphasis.  Joe Camel and Camelbucks anyone?

Now we have Pepe/Kek and Kekistan.  Shadilay!  As mass media turned into niche markets, so one could make TV shows garnering 1 to 2 percent marketshares a doable proposition, the real mass phenomenon became the meme.  Just like the weather, they're random action elements that can erupt at any time, sweep across the nation and then poof, they're last week's news.  Instead of commercials made by Madison Avenue, now it is whatever bubbles up from the audience that makes the splash!  I find it entertaining.

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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2017, 06:31:38 PM »

^^ And it was a flop since people did not remember it was an Alka-Seltzer ad, along with the spicy meatball ad.


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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2017, 07:38:12 PM »

Ethnic, racial and cultural stereotypes on commercials, comedies and cartoons are NOT acceptable in today's societal norms, esp. we became opposing of racism, as well sexism, anti-semitism, Islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, classism, ableism and ageism. Either this attitude started in the 1930s by the MPAA banned defamatory imagery of groups of people in film, the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s and PCness was a 1990s trend.

3 examples are the Alka-Seltzer ad from 1969 features an Italian-American family, actors in a commercial take set, the 1966 ad of Mountain Dew features poor whites or hillbillies with the commercial version of the soft drink, and the 1970 Fritos ad starring their retired Mexican character the Frito Bandito. (all can be found on Youtube).

My wife, who's of Mexican (technically Spanish and Apache), Italian and Filipino descent doesn't take offense from these commercials. I'm of half-French/Flemish, Scottish, German and Cherokee Indian descent. I've seen western movies portray Native Americans as savages and a movie character Detective Clouseau of the Pink Panther anthology played by Peter Sellers received negative attention in France for being a very "crude" French stereotype.
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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2017, 08:21:14 PM »

Some violence scenes from Captain Scarlet & the Mysterons, it was a kid show then.

And stuff we saw in the 1967-70 Spider-man cartoon who wouldn't be made today.

The 1980s classic kids show You Can't Do that on Television is perfectly named, I doubt we could do the same kinds of skits today.
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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2017, 08:39:55 PM »

A lot of stuff went right past the censors. There was an episode of 'CHiPs' where Erik Estrada made a big deal about the number 69, and the censors didn't catch it.

Around the same time, there was a set of episodes on 'Sesame Street' where several of the characters flew to Hawaii. The scene where Oscar the Grouch tries to take his trash can through the metal detector is full of very subtle adult jokes.
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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2017, 09:22:49 PM »

Speedy Gonzales.

Ironically, IIRC, Mexicans actually love that character.
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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2017, 09:39:52 PM »

Speedy Gonzales.

Ironically, IIRC, Mexicans actually love that character.

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Down at the cantina they giving green stamps with tequila!!"


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Re: Stuff on Old TV That Would Not Be Allowed Today
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2017, 12:04:04 AM »

Doug Funnie having a best friend nicknamed "Skeet". Though, this one is not a case of changing standards - the show predates the existence of the current slang term "skeet" and it's entirely a coincidence.


A movie, not a TV show, but the whole sequence with the Indian tribe in Peter Pan would never fly today.
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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2017, 12:08:51 AM »

When I was growing up, because of the Calgon commersh, every time someone said that "we need more" anything, someone would always say, "Ancient Chinese secret, huh?"

"We need more Froot Loops!"

"Ancient Chinese secret, huh?"
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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2017, 12:18:55 AM »

One thing you never see on TV anymore is commercials for bubble gum. I have no idea why.
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