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Yukon highway list?
« on: May 27, 2018, 11:56:31 PM »

Is there a definitive Yukon highway list? I ask because YT 37 is signed from 1, but I'm not convinced it's actually YT 37. Heck, I'm not convinced it's even maintained by Yukon.

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Re: Yukon highway list?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2018, 12:42:39 AM »

http://www.hpw.gov.yk.ca/pdf/ReportHwyLogPublic2012withedits.pdf

The log confusingly includes some highways in BC and maintained by BC that are extensions of YT routes, one of them BC 37. However, the log is more detailed for Yukon-maintained than BC-maintained segments.

As for who maintains route 37 in the Yukon, BC and YT maintain some highway km-age in each other's territory, most notably the Alaska Highway which zigzags along the BC/YT border, and also YT 2 and YT 3 between the Alaska and Yukon borders. But Yukon maintains the part of the Alaska Highway west of Watson Lake (including a long segment dipping into BC), so there's no obvious reason why it wouldn't maintain the part of route 37 north of the BC border. What makes you think BC maintains it, or that Yukon doesn't?
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Re: Yukon highway list?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2018, 01:36:38 AM »

http://www.hpw.gov.yk.ca/pdf/ReportHwyLogPublic2012withedits.pdf

The log confusingly includes some highways in BC and maintained by BC that are extensions of YT routes, one of them BC 37. However, the log is more detailed for Yukon-maintained than BC-maintained segments.

As for who maintains route 37 in the Yukon, BC and YT maintain some highway km-age in each other's territory, most notably the Alaska Highway which zigzags along the BC/YT border, and also YT 2 and YT 3 between the Alaska and Yukon borders. But Yukon maintains the part of the Alaska Highway west of Watson Lake (including a long segment dipping into BC), so there's no obvious reason why it wouldn't maintain the part of route 37 north of the BC border. What makes you think BC maintains it, or that Yukon doesn't?
There was seeming continuity of signage across the border - similar appearance until the last junction.

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Re: Yukon highway list?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2018, 01:38:06 AM »

http://www.hpw.gov.yk.ca/pdf/ReportHwyLogPublic2012withedits.pdf
What is your opinion of 3-digit highways? Obviously they're all unsigned, but man that would make clinching a bear!

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Re: Yukon highway list?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2018, 02:15:44 AM »

http://www.hpw.gov.yk.ca/pdf/ReportHwyLogPublic2012withedits.pdf
What is your opinion of 3-digit highways? Obviously they're all unsigned, but man that would make clinching a bear!

Travel Mapping ignores them all as unsigned (ditto for unsigned and short YT 14 and YT 15), which narrows my own clinching focus. Even clinching the signed one- and two-digit routes can be a bear, though I've done all of them except the last ~100 miles of the incredibly remote, no-services YT 10.
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Re: Yukon highway list?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2018, 11:12:01 PM »

http://www.hpw.gov.yk.ca/pdf/ReportHwyLogPublic2012withedits.pdf
What is your opinion of 3-digit highways? Obviously they're all unsigned, but man that would make clinching a bear!

Travel Mapping ignores them all as unsigned (ditto for unsigned and short YT 14 and YT 15), which narrows my own clinching focus. Even clinching the signed one- and two-digit routes can be a bear, though I've done all of them except the last ~100 miles of the incredibly remote, no-services YT 10.
I clinched 15 and plan on clinching 14 thanks to this log book. Wouldn't have known about them otherwise! 15 has a nice truss bridge and gas at the end.
I guess more - not just from a clinching perspective, but are they like the VA 600s, NC 4-digits, NY reference routes, or the QC 5-digits? How "official" are they? Any insight?

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Re: Yukon highway list?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2018, 11:28:12 PM »

I guess more - not just from a clinching perspective, but are they like the VA 600s, NC 4-digits, NY reference routes, or the QC 5-digits? How "official" are they? Any insight?

You're talking about the three-digit Yukon routes, right?

I can't compare to the other kinds of routes you listed, since I've never heard of the Quebec 5-digit routes, and don't know how the other three differ. All I can say is that since Yukon has no equivalents to county governments, and only a handful of municipal governments covering only a tiny fraction of the territory's land area, any rural road that's not private or in a national park would be maintained (if at all) by the territory rather than some other government. That would make them kind of like the VA and NC secondary routes, except for being unsigned.
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Re: Yukon highway list?
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2018, 01:03:59 AM »

I guess more - not just from a clinching perspective, but are they like the VA 600s, NC 4-digits, NY reference routes, or the QC 5-digits? How "official" are they? Any insight?

You're talking about the three-digit Yukon routes, right?

I can't compare to the other kinds of routes you listed, since I've never heard of the Quebec 5-digit routes, and don't know how the other three differ. All I can say is that since Yukon has no equivalents to county governments, and only a handful of municipal governments covering only a tiny fraction of the territory's land area, any rural road that's not private or in a national park would be maintained (if at all) by the territory rather than some other government. That would make them kind of like the VA and NC secondary routes, except for being unsigned.
The QC 5-digit system is essentially "we maintain all these rural roads for lack of other agency, and we need some way to categorize them, but these aren't routes." That's what I'm wondering about the Yukon roads.

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Re: Yukon highway list?
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2018, 08:38:13 PM »

I wonder why they left out 12 and 13.
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