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What happened to the handle?
« on: November 30, 2018, 10:54:55 PM »

I see now many toilets in hotel rooms are using a button on top the tank lid to flush instead of the usual front or side lever.

What is up with this new trend?
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2018, 11:06:10 PM »

Isn't a more efficient way of flushing and largely eliminates the water running via a bad seal?  I always hated jiggling the handle or having to mess with the chain.

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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2018, 10:53:43 AM »

Its a strange way to flush after all these years using the handle.  Never had chain issues and as far as leaks it usually came from the float valve assembly not the plunger or plug.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2018, 01:22:30 PM »

I think the ones that are set up so that it’s a little water for a #1 and a lot for a #2 are great. I even saw a toilet in England that had a sink built into the top, where the graywater from the sink was used to fill the toilet tank.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2018, 03:48:54 PM »

When I saw the thread title I thought internet handles. Like how people have replaced creative names with “firstnamelastname” on everything.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2018, 11:22:11 PM »

I worked at a place that has the top button-type flusher, but has a handle attached to that instead.  It takes so much pressure to push the button that the handle mechanism broke and the toilet remained unflushed, except when I noticed it and would lift the tank lid and press the plunger.  Not learning from their mistake, instead of buying a lid with a center button they tried to replace the handle.  You can lead a horse to water...
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2018, 12:15:30 AM »

The only time I've ever seen a toilet tank with a flush button on top was this year in a small town in East Texas. At the time I assumed the toilet was old.
The toilets at the Target where I work were replaced during a remodel last year. The new ones are auto-flush, but have a button in case you need to flush before you are finished. They are tankless commercial toilets.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2018, 12:26:33 AM »

When I saw the thread title I thought internet handles. Like how people have replaced creative names with “firstnamelastname” on everything.

And the first thing *I* thought of was "Breaker one-nine, this here's the Rubber Duck."  Am I really getting that old?
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2018, 02:27:28 AM »

people have replaced creative names with “firstnamelastname” on everything.

Creative but forgettable. :-P

I think the ones that are set up so that it’s a little water for a #1 and a lot for a #2 are great.

You can achieve a multi-style flush setup (with a #1 and #2 mode) with handles as well. The toilet at my last house had two handles embedded within each other.

Personally, I have no issue with button-style flushers, either on top or on the side.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2018, 08:59:02 AM »

I think the ones that are set up so that it’s a little water for a #1 and a lot for a #2 are great. I even saw a toilet in England that had a sink built into the top, where the graywater from the sink was used to fill the toilet tank.
The jail in Clark, NJ had it for the lieu or however you spell it had the sink on top the toilet using the drain from the sink as the tank to flush.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2018, 09:02:04 AM »

I think the ones that are set up so that it’s a little water for a #1 and a lot for a #2 are great. I even saw a toilet in England that had a sink built into the top, where the graywater from the sink was used to fill the toilet tank.
The jail in Clark, NJ had it for the lieu or however you spell it had the sink on top the toilet using the drain from the sink as the tank to flush.
"Loo" is how you spell the word that's British* English slang for the toilet.

*I don't know if this word is actually used outside England, to be honest.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2018, 09:05:07 AM »

*I don't know if this word is actually used outside England, to be honest.

Yes. It's used in the English-speaking parts of Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.

Wiktionary says it's also used in Australia and New Zealand, but it does not list Canada.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2018, 09:32:50 AM »

When I saw the thread title I thought internet handles. Like how people have replaced creative names with “firstnamelastname” on everything.

And the first thing *I* thought of was "Breaker one-nine, this here's the Rubber Duck."  Am I really getting that old?


That was my first thought as well.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2018, 02:13:03 PM »

Yes. It's used in the English-speaking parts of Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.
And the other parts if the language being used is English. :-P

Also the Republic of Ireland use it.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2018, 02:31:53 PM »

I hear "the loo" moderately often in the PNW and BC, though I've never been able to tell if it was a joke, or someone using the term because that's the first thing that came to their mind.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2018, 02:42:56 PM »

I hear "the loo" moderately often in the PNW and BC, though I've never been able to tell if it was a joke, or someone using the term because that's the first thing that came to their mind.
It's bad enough that "no worries" has crept into American English.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2018, 02:47:32 PM »

I hear "the loo" moderately often in the PNW and BC, though I've never been able to tell if it was a joke, or someone using the term because that's the first thing that came to their mind.
It's bad enough that "no worries" has crept into American English.

I don't think I realized that "no worries" hasn't always been used in the US. I've said it for years, and never thought twice. In the service industry, I think it's preferred to "no problem", since "problem" is one of those words you avoid. Are you anti-Australian? :-D
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2018, 03:23:32 PM »

I hear "the loo" moderately often in the PNW and BC, though I've never been able to tell if it was a joke, or someone using the term because that's the first thing that came to their mind.
It's bad enough that "no worries" has crept into American English.

I don't think I realized that "no worries" hasn't always been used in the US. I've said it for years, and never thought twice. In the service industry, I think it's preferred to "no problem", since "problem" is one of those words you avoid. Are you anti-Australian? :-D
No, just anti-pretentiousness (though I think it's just that 100% of the Americans I've met who use "no worries" are pretentious, rather than it being a phrase that only pretentious people use).

Interesting that it's preferred to "no problem" in the service industry, though I'm not sure "worry" is that much better than "problem."
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2018, 03:43:40 PM »

I hear "the loo" moderately often in the PNW and BC, though I've never been able to tell if it was a joke, or someone using the term because that's the first thing that came to their mind.
It's bad enough that "no worries" has crept into American English.

I don't think I realized that "no worries" hasn't always been used in the US. I've said it for years, and never thought twice. In the service industry, I think it's preferred to "no problem", since "problem" is one of those words you avoid. Are you anti-Australian? :-D
No, just anti-pretentiousness (though I think it's just that 100% of the Americans I've met who use "no worries" are pretentious, rather than it being a phrase that only pretentious people use).

Interesting that it's preferred to "no problem" in the service industry, though I'm not sure "worry" is that much better than "problem."

Hmm. I've always considered people who use "you're welcome" after every "thanks" or "thank you" to be a bit stuffy.

In fairness, I usually reserve "no worries" for when someone asks for something more unusual, where the perception might be that I may or may not be able to help. I also use "you bet", "sure thing", "you got it, man", "my pleasure". In fact, I rarely use "you're welcome".

Hotel didn't really care what we said as long as it didn't include "problem". "No worries", especially when said with a smile, seemed more casual to most of us, so it became common.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2018, 04:08:18 PM »

I read a compelling article in favor of "you're welcome" being the only acceptable response to "thank you," and I've mostly stopped saying "no problem" or "yup" or "mmm-hmm" or whatever else I used to say in response to "thank you."

I do not work in the service industry, though.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2018, 05:10:26 PM »

I read a compelling article in favor of "you're welcome" being the only acceptable response to "thank you," and I've mostly stopped saying "no problem" or "yup" or "mmm-hmm" or whatever else I used to say in response to "thank you."

I do not work in the service industry, though.

I learned after a while that most people appreciate a more human-to-human interaction, so I try not to reserve a single response for a remark such as "thanks" or "thank you". If all you say is "you're welcome" after every "thanks" or "thank you", people might begin to suspect you're reading from a script (especially in the service industry). Even in non-service industry interactions, only having a single response sounds kind of odd. Maybe it's just where I live. Most people I know are decently casual, with dozens of various responses to "thanks" or "thank you". Hell, "thanks brother/man/boss/mate" and "cheers" are also common around here. Responding to "thanks mate" with "you're welcome" sounds stranger than "no worries" or even responding back with "cheers".

If I was at a super-fancy party, I might whittle my responses down to "you're welcome" and "my pleasure". Otherwise I have quite a wide vocab.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2018, 05:26:47 PM »

I read a compelling article in favor of "you're welcome" being the only acceptable response to "thank you," and I've mostly stopped saying "no problem" or "yup" or "mmm-hmm" or whatever else I used to say in response to "thank you."

I do not work in the service industry, though.

I learned after a while that most people appreciate a more human-to-human interaction, so I try not to reserve a single response for a remark such as "thanks" or "thank you". If all you say is "you're welcome" after every "thanks" or "thank you", people might begin to suspect you're reading from a script (especially in the service industry). Even in non-service industry interactions, only having a single response sounds kind of odd. Maybe it's just where I live. Most people I know are decently casual, with dozens of various responses to "thanks" or "thank you". Hell, "thanks brother/man/boss/mate" and "cheers" are also common around here. Responding to "thanks mate" with "you're welcome" sounds stranger than "no worries" or even responding back with "cheers".

If I was at a super-fancy party, I might whittle my responses down to "you're welcome" and "my pleasure". Otherwise I have quite a wide vocab.
Christ, I forgot about Americans using "cheers" as a catchall "thanks/good luck/I wish you well" phrase.  That's not so much pretentious as "I just went to London for a week's vacation."  Provided you don't work in the service industry. 

Yeah, if I had to respond to "thanks/thank you" five billion times a day, I'd want to change things up too.  At least they're SAYING "thanks/thank you," though.  At the end of our first dinner on Queen Mary 2, my wife pointed out that we were the only ones at our table of ten diners who were saying "thank you" to the waitstaff.
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2018, 12:21:05 PM »

Around here, I've noticed that "Thank you" is losing ground to " 'preciate it". "I appreciate it/you're welcome" don't really seem like they go together, so you kind of have to come up with something other than "you're welcome".

I don't use "my pleasure" because 1) I try not to lie and 2) it reminds me too much of the bots that run Chick-Fil-A.

I never really got the huge aversion to "no problem" some people seem to have. I think it's mostly in the minds of stodgy, tie-wearing fucks that don't actually do any work and don't understand that literally nobody under the age of thirty (hell, could be thirty-five or forty at this point) is going to find it objectionable. We had a training class where the instructor was like "And obviously, you don't say 'no problem'" and nodded along without going into any more detail while the millennials in the class exchanged puzzled glances, as if we had been told not to use the word "portcullis" or "Cincinnati".
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Re: What happened to the handle?
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2018, 12:42:33 PM »

I wish arvo was used in the US. An Aussie at a baseball board I hang out  at used that when he was a poster.
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