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US 37
« on: February 02, 2019, 11:16:38 PM »

Looking over the US Ends timeline that was posted in another thread, I see that site makes the statement that US 37 never existed.

I'm not sure where the maps are now, nor do I know where my scan is, but US 37 did appear on maps in Kentucky and Tennessee. The route followed the general route of TN 28 (now US 127) and KY 35 (also now US 127) to Albany, then KY 90 to either US 31E or 31W.

I think I had the route documented on my very first rudimentary website on the old "Fun Facts About Kentucky Highways" page, but it's long since been taken down and I have no idea where I may have saved those HTML files.
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Re: US 37
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2019, 11:20:07 PM »

^ I also recall it showing up on some KY and TN maps.  But I also recall it was questioned whether the route was actually signed in the field.
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Re: US 37
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2019, 10:36:25 AM »

AASHTO tried to force it but the states said no. So mapmakers using AASHTO approvals to make changes would have shown it.
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Re: US 37
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2019, 10:50:14 AM »

That happened back during the Refinement Years, when AASHO was much more hands-on with respect to numbering decisions.  They wanted to eliminate split routes, and US 37 was their suggestion to replace one leg of the split in US 31.  They probably alerted commercial cartographers to this, which explains why US 37 was shown on some maps.  But I'm of the understanding that the states involved (Tennessee and Kentucky) never bought in to their idea, and never signposted US 37.  The Tennessee official from 1938 doesn't show it, nor does the Kentucky official from 1939.
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Re: US 37
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2019, 02:47:21 PM »

Gousha maps definitely showed a bunch of changes, many that never happened.  This list is from a Texaco map of South Carolina, dated Jan 1939 which had a map of much of the US east of the Mississippi on the reverse:

US 37 replaced 31E north of Glasgow KY and then followed KY 90 to Albany before heading south to Chattanooga along what became US 127
US 143 replaced 31E south of Glasgow KY and continued southwest of Nashville along TN 100 to at least Linden then it doesn't show how it connected with US 43 but I assume it was TN 13/AL 17 to Florence AL
US 129 extended north to replace US 25W
US 411 extended north from US 64 like it actually did so that it could also replace US 11E
US 43 extended north to Columbia TN then to Nashville, then replaces US 41W
US 11W becomes US 11
US 25E becomes US 25
US 41E becomes US 41
US 45E and 45W become 45 and 45 ALT (but the map I have doesn't say which one becomes which - they both say NEW 45
US 49E and 49W is just like the 45E/W changes
US 19E and 19W is just like the 45E/W changes though I have seen a different map that shows 19E as 19 ALT...
US 15 extended north from US 6 to Rochester NY

US 70N and 70S and US 30N and US 30S did not show any proposed changes...
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Re: US 37
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2019, 05:11:32 PM »



Gousha maps definitely showed a bunch of changes, many that never happened.  This list is from a Texaco map of South Carolina, dated Jan 1939 which had a map of much of the US east of the Mississippi on the reverse.

Do you happen to have scans of this map?
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Re: US 37
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2019, 07:19:27 PM »



Gousha maps definitely showed a bunch of changes, many that never happened.  This list is from a Texaco map of South Carolina, dated Jan 1939 which had a map of much of the US east of the Mississippi on the reverse.

Do you happen to have scans of this map?



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Re: US 37
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2019, 07:33:14 PM »

Thanks! That's a great map.
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Re: US 37
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