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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #125 on: July 05, 2013, 07:46:10 PM »

I-69E is already AASHTO-approved for Brownsville TX (see discussion upthread).  The approved segment is already freeway, so might be little or nothing to wait for but putting up the signs.
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #126 on: July 05, 2013, 08:41:39 PM »

the I-69 statute technically includes a section from the Port of Corpus Christi to I-69E/US 77. I think that is I-37 and have emailed FHWA to see if that is correct (no response yet). Any insight here on that question will be appreciated
I-69E is already AASHTO-approved for Brownsville TX (see discussion upthread).  The approved segment is already freeway, so might be little or nothing to wait for but putting up the signs.

From the FHWA Statutory Listing of Corridors, do you have any info about this segment?:

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18. Corridor from Sarnia, Ontario, Canada, through Port Huron, Michigan ....
D.In the Lower Rio Grande Valley, the Corridor shall ....
iii. include the Corpus Christi North-side Highway and Rail Corridor from the existing intersection of United States Route 77 and Interstate Route 37 to United States Route 181

I'm not sure what the reference to the "Corpus Christi North-side Highway and Rail Corridor" means.
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #127 on: July 06, 2013, 12:19:42 AM »

I'm not sure what the reference to the "Corpus Christi North-side Highway and Rail Corridor" means.
The red road here, I think: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.8373&lon=-97.4984&zoom=13&layers=M
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #128 on: July 06, 2013, 09:34:47 AM »

^ NE2, thanks.

Interesting. Maybe it is a statutory cousin to MS 8, previously discussed near the bottom of this post, in that it is intended to be a non-interstate grade part of the I-69 Corridor.  I will post if and when FHWA provides their answer.

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As recently posted in the I-69 in TX thread, NE2 guessed correctly.



if it is I-37, then it will make for a great trivia question: What was the first interstate designation given to a part of the I-69 Corridor in Texas?  :sombrero:

Since the routing on your map incorporates part of I-37, I think I-37 survives as the answer to the proposed trivia question.
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #129 on: July 06, 2013, 09:41:58 AM »

It survives anyway, because I-37 and actual I-69(E) will overlap...
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #130 on: July 06, 2013, 09:58:48 AM »

... which will lead to a trivia question about I-37 having overlapped with both I-69E and the "Corpus Christi North-side Highway and Rail Corridor".  I-37 really gets around, but never quite overlapped with I-69 ...

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I may have prematurely impugned I-37's honor. I think it would be more accurate to say that I-37 currently connects to the "Corpus Christi North-side Highway and Rail Corridor". No current overlap.
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #131 on: July 06, 2013, 10:13:55 AM »

It survives anyway, because I-37 and actual I-69(E) will overlap...

Does "Excluding multi-interstate shield overlaps, what was the first interstate designation given to a part of the I-69 Corridor in Texas?" work?
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #132 on: July 06, 2013, 10:25:22 AM »

No, since the I-37/69E overlap is currently only I-37. Consider if they made the Corpus Christi thing into I-569 (like the Texarkana spur is I-369) - then you'd have a similar overlap between I-37 and I-569.
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #133 on: July 06, 2013, 11:12:37 AM »

No, since the I-37/69E overlap is currently only I-37. Consider if they made the Corpus Christi thing into I-569 (like the Texarkana spur is I-369) - then you'd have a similar overlap between I-37 and I-569.

I think it would be more likely that there would be an I-x37 designation that would connect to I-37 instead of creating a useless I-x69 overlap.  Nevertheless, your scenario must be considered in crafting a trivia question.

How about "Excluding currently projected overlaps of I-69, I-69C, and I-69E with currently signed parts of the currently existing interstate system, what was the first interstate designation given to a part of the I-69 Corridor in Texas?"?
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #134 on: July 06, 2013, 01:52:04 PM »

No, since the I-37/69E overlap is currently only I-37. Consider if they made the Corpus Christi thing into I-569 (like the Texarkana spur is I-369) - then you'd have a similar overlap between I-37 and I-569.

I think it would be more likely that there would be an I-x37 designation that would connect to I-37 instead of creating a useless I-x69 overlap.  Nevertheless, your scenario must be considered in crafting a trivia question.

How about "Excluding currently projected overlaps of I-69, I-69C, and I-69E with currently signed parts of the currently existing interstate system, what was the first interstate designation given to a part of the I-69 Corridor in Texas?"?
US 59. It's an interstate highway.

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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #135 on: July 06, 2013, 03:07:57 PM »

US 59. It's an interstate highway.

I can only imagine the disputes on Trivia Nights ....

If you insist, how about "Excluding currently projected overlaps of I-69, I-69C, and I-69E with currently signed parts of the currently existing Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways, and further excluding non-Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways designations on overlaps with other routes, what was the first interstate-shield designation given to a part of the I-69 Corridor in Texas?"?
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #136 on: July 12, 2013, 07:43:58 AM »

The letters on that Corpus Christi North-side Highway and Rail Corridor shield are gonna be mighty narrow.
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #137 on: July 12, 2013, 02:23:15 PM »

I am surprised that they did not make I-2, I-69S.
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #138 on: July 12, 2013, 04:19:15 PM »

I am surprised that they did not make I-2, I-69S.

no kidding, and they could change I-37 to I-69N
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #139 on: July 12, 2013, 08:05:07 PM »

I-35 could be renamed I-69X.
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #140 on: July 13, 2013, 01:55:03 AM »

I guess I-94 would then have to be I-69T.
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #141 on: July 13, 2013, 11:04:27 AM »

And something in Germany would be I-69ß. :)
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #142 on: July 13, 2013, 03:52:17 PM »

Too close to B?

Latin extended is clearly the way to go* after all the suffixes are used up, except looking, there's not that many that would be different enough: Ǝ, ʔ and Ž is all I can see that are upper case.

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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #143 on: July 13, 2013, 04:32:52 PM »

Latin extended is clearly the way to go after all the suffixes are used up, except looking, there's not that many that would be different enough: Ǝ, ʔ and Ž is all I can see that are upper case.

An I-69Ž shield would undoubtedly be one of the more popular dorm room shields.
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #144 on: July 16, 2013, 10:42:07 PM »

How about I-69#?

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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #145 on: July 17, 2013, 12:32:12 AM »

So southern Texas will be known as the I-69Δ?
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #146 on: July 17, 2013, 10:55:01 AM »

So southern Texas will be known as the I-69Δ?

Isn't that one in Mississippi?
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #147 on: July 17, 2013, 12:47:15 PM »

Since there is the occasional complaint that I-11 really does not fit the grid, why not change and go with another gridbuster that is more Vegas-centric: I-69$.
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #148 on: July 17, 2013, 01:34:55 PM »

Since there is the occasional complaint that I-11 really does not fit the grid, why not change and go with another gridbuster that is more Vegas-centric: I-69$.

Ka-ching! :P

Of course, I-17 (routed up I-11 with I-19 essentially up I-17) could kinda play into the whole "lucky 7" mentality. Or another grid-buster number that works even better is I-7, or I-777.
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Re: AASHTO May 5, 2013 Route Numbering Actions and Applications
« Reply #149 on: July 17, 2013, 04:12:03 PM »

Since there is the occasional complaint that I-11 really does not fit the grid, why not change and go with another gridbuster that is more Vegas-centric: I-69$.

Makes me think of prostitution.  But hey, that's legal in Nevada.  Better make sure there's a business route along the streets with the most sex workers.
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