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Re: Florida
« Reply #2850 on: December 11, 2019, 05:56:23 AM »

Did FDOT ever apply for the I-795 designation on SR 9B? The whole thing has been open for a while now, but I haven't heard of it getting signed as an Interstate.
Iím sure itís going to be signed soon enough, though probably not until next year at the earliest.
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Re: Florida
« Reply #2851 on: December 11, 2019, 06:30:02 PM »

Did FDOT ever apply for the I-795 designation on SR 9B? The whole thing has been open for a while now, but I haven't heard of it getting signed as an Interstate.
Iím sure itís going to be signed soon enough, though probably not until next year at the earliest.

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Re: Florida
« Reply #2852 on: December 11, 2019, 08:24:40 PM »

Did FDOT ever apply for the I-795 designation on SR 9B? The whole thing has been open for a while now, but I haven't heard of it getting signed as an Interstate.
Probably not, but then again look how long it took to get FL 9A signed as East Beltway I-295.
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Re: Florida
« Reply #2853 on: December 12, 2019, 09:21:45 PM »

Florida senator: Palm Bay 'really dropped the ball' with I-95 interchange, connector road
Florida Today Published Dec. 12, 2019

Florida Sen. Tom Lee, a former Senate president, has served in Tallahassee from 1996 to 2006 and 2012 to the present.  But the Brandon Republican could not recall a situation like Palm Bay's new Interstate 95 interchange ó which remains closed four months after its completion.

ďIíve never heard of an interchange getting built with no connection to it," Lee said during Thursday's Joint Legislative Auditing Committee meeting.  "Sounds like somebody really dropped the ball," Lee said.


See the URL for the rest of the article.
https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2019/12/12/florida-senator-palm-bay-really-dropped-ball-95-interchange/2607009001/

No mystery, the connecting St. Johns Heritage Parkway segment has not yet been completed.

This interchange is actually south of Palm Bay, near the towns of Grant and Micco.  Currently there is 18 miles between the FL-514 Malabar Road interchange and the FL-512 Sebastian Blvd. interchange, with no intervening interchange, and this new interchange is 8 miles south of the Malabar Road interchange.

Hopefully it will be open next time I am in the area for a MelHi reunion in Sept. 2021!
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Re: Florida
« Reply #2854 on: December 12, 2019, 09:48:02 PM »

Found a Turnpike Route Marker Assembly with a diagonal down arrow like California. Also the I-75 arrow plaque is the wrong style, and the turnpike sign should be next to it
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8375775,-82.0454407,3a,20.3y,344.56h,89.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slYD7h7HOYuw1T6DBo89a2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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Re: Florida
« Reply #2856 on: December 22, 2019, 08:58:58 AM »

New Toll SR markers on pavement in Orlando:
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.4499861,-81.3495543,3a,75y,110.43h,76.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfmIDXJS3v9Z9qP_j68gBQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.4502215,-81.3504921,3a,18.8y,77.21h,78.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sST24QDJmeCI8uQEzBG3sRQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

They did goof up by making the top green

The Toll shield used to have green "caps". The yellow caps have only been around around for a decade, which resembles national usage for TOLL identification.

I like the orange outline, which seems to be much more common in Central Florida than the rest of the state.

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Re: Florida
« Reply #2857 on: December 22, 2019, 11:22:22 AM »

New Toll SR markers on pavement in Orlando:
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.4499861,-81.3495543,3a,75y,110.43h,76.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfmIDXJS3v9Z9qP_j68gBQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.4502215,-81.3504921,3a,18.8y,77.21h,78.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sST24QDJmeCI8uQEzBG3sRQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

They did goof up by making the top green


The Toll shield used to have green "caps". The yellow caps have only been around around for a decade, which resembles national usage for TOLL identification.

I like the orange outline, which seems to be much more common in Central Florida than the rest of the state.
I don't think I've ever seen it outside of Central Florida? The problem with it is that orange material seems to fade way faster then anything else, there are so many signs around where the state outline just appears missing as a result of that.
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Re: Florida
« Reply #2858 on: December 24, 2019, 08:40:51 PM »

New Toll SR markers on pavement in Orlando:
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.4499861,-81.3495543,3a,75y,110.43h,76.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfmIDXJS3v9Z9qP_j68gBQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.4502215,-81.3504921,3a,18.8y,77.21h,78.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sST24QDJmeCI8uQEzBG3sRQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

They did goof up by making the top green

The Toll shield used to have green "caps". The yellow caps have only been around around for a decade, which resembles national usage for TOLL identification.

I like the orange outline, which seems to be much more common in Central Florida than the rest of the state.

I know the standard used to be green tops. I called it a goof because they used an outdated standard that changed many years ago.
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Re: Florida
« Reply #2859 on: January 06, 2020, 08:30:38 AM »

Found a modern take on a Keys Shield on the last bit of FL 584 near Palm Harbor (Street View):




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Re: Florida
« Reply #2860 on: January 07, 2020, 08:08:24 PM »

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49312780623/in/dateposted-public/ See now SR 7 is not so secret along some parts of US 441.  Usually only street blades and traffic signal assemblies had any mention of the state designation.  Now FDOT has them installed on overhead sign assemblies and not the through US 441 shield.
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Re: Florida
« Reply #2861 on: January 07, 2020, 11:49:40 PM »

Looks like Florida's hurricane-resistant signs didn't fare so well in Michael. GSV Shows some were ripped right off the braces:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.9258908,-85.3892846,3a,60.8y,20.17h,78.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scyCXS80JqTXMJLnba3dLlw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Route marker assembly:https://www.google.com/maps/@29.9252412,-85.3885779,3a,15.7y,37.98h,77.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smtqntTK8_4tg0HTvf5mjYQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Anybody know what winds speeds there are designed to withstand?
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Re: Florida
« Reply #2862 on: January 08, 2020, 07:36:33 AM »

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49312780623/in/dateposted-public/ See now SR 7 is not so secret along some parts of US 441.  Usually only street blades and traffic signal assemblies had any mention of the state designation.  Now FDOT has them installed on overhead sign assemblies and not the through US 441 shield.

When I lived down there, it seemed both "State Road 7" and "441" were used interchangeably, with the the state road moniker used a little more frequently;  especially in western Palm Beach County where US 441 leaves the SR 7 routing. In Miami-Dade, "7th Avenue" is more commonly used.

Since it was called State Road 7 only a few years before US 441 was extended to Tamiami Trail, it's a curious case of the SR designation hanging on where most hidden numbers stay in obscurity.

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Re: Florida
« Reply #2863 on: January 09, 2020, 06:17:41 AM »

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49312780623/in/dateposted-public/ See now SR 7 is not so secret along some parts of US 441.  Usually only street blades and traffic signal assemblies had any mention of the state designation.  Now FDOT has them installed on overhead sign assemblies and not the through US 441 shield.

When I lived down there, it seemed both "State Road 7" and "441" were used interchangeably, with the the state road moniker used a little more frequently;  especially in western Palm Beach County where US 441 leaves the SR 7 routing. In Miami-Dade, "7th Avenue" is more commonly used.

Since it was called State Road 7 only a few years before US 441 was extended to Tamiami Trail, it's a curious case of the SR designation hanging on where most hidden numbers stay in obscurity.

I wish FDOT would sign SR 90 along US 41 just because it's a major east-west routing.
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Re: Florida
« Reply #2864 on: January 09, 2020, 11:48:24 AM »

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49312780623/in/dateposted-public/ See now SR 7 is not so secret along some parts of US 441.  Usually only street blades and traffic signal assemblies had any mention of the state designation.  Now FDOT has them installed on overhead sign assemblies and not the through US 441 shield.

When I lived down there, it seemed both "State Road 7" and "441" were used interchangeably, with the the state road moniker used a little more frequently;  especially in western Palm Beach County where US 441 leaves the SR 7 routing. In Miami-Dade, "7th Avenue" is more commonly used.

Since it was called State Road 7 only a few years before US 441 was extended to Tamiami Trail, it's a curious case of the SR designation hanging on where most hidden numbers stay in obscurity.
Well GA has it more confusing for US 221 north of Wrens.  It is very concurrent with a E-W signed state route, but GDOT has US 221 signed also as E-W with the state route companion. 

South Florida is more confusing with their signs as for example, US 41 is signed E-W in Miami-Dade County as it does run true east-west there.  However, US 98 is more complicated as it is signed E-W along the Lake Okeechobee shore concurrent with N-S US 441 there.  Yet north of the Okeechobee Line it is signed N-S all the way to Perry where it does change orientation on signs at the US 27 intersection with US 19.  What is confusing is that South Florida does not use the US 41 logic of changing (or keeping) US 98 in Martin and Palm Beach Counties to go along with the change or not.  If the US 41 logic prevails the change of US 98 from E-W to N-S would happen at Belle Glade where US 98 does truly run north and south from there to Okeechobee to the north and leave the part cosigned along SR 80 as E-W.

The issue I think is that FDOT D-4 is unaware that D-1 signs US 98 N-S as when I once contacted them, they pulled the routine that FHWA wants them to sign it that way due to that ruling even numbers are to be signed east-west which we all know is true, but some exceptions to take case like both US 4 and 62 in NY.  Both are even number US routes but are both signed N-S in the Empire State despite FHWA signing rules.  Plus do they know that US 92 and 192 also violate US numbering rules too as being in one state less than 300 miles.
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