Pennsylvania

[74/171FAN]

guess the detour for PA 352 proves that the signage for the US 13 changes approved by AASHTO recently have not been done yet.

I must have missed something. How is 13 getting realigned?

See here:  https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27090.msg2562670#msg2562670

Basically, US 13 is being realigned onto PA 291 and Morton Ave.  The current US 13 alignment will become US 13 Business.

[ekt8750]

guess the detour for PA 352 proves that the signage for the US 13 changes approved by AASHTO recently have not been done yet.

I must have missed something. How is 13 getting realigned?

See here:  https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27090.msg2562670#msg2562670

Basically, US 13 is being realigned onto PA 291 and Morton Ave.  The current US 13 alignment will become US 13 Business.

Makes perfect sense. That's usually the route I take through Chester to begin with. Also 13 is poorly signed in the city to begin with so that will be an added benefit.

[jemacedo9]

guess the detour for PA 352 proves that the signage for the US 13 changes approved by AASHTO recently have not been done yet.

I must have missed something. How is 13 getting realigned?


See here:  https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27090.msg2562670#msg2562670

Basically, US 13 is being realigned onto PA 291 and Morton Ave.  The current US 13 alignment will become US 13 Business.

Makes perfect sense. That's usually the route I take through Chester to begin with. Also 13 is poorly signed in the city to begin with so that will be an added benefit.

Wasn't Morton Ave lowered under the underpass there to remove the low clearance?  I think that opened the door for the re-route.

[74/171FAN]

Clarifying jemacedo9's post was "Wasn't Morton Ave lowered under the underpass there to remove the low clearance?  I think that opened the door for the re-route."

It sounds like you are referring to this project.

Crews are reconstructing curbs and sidewalks; milling and resurfacing the streets; installing new traffic signals; and reconstructing Morton Avenue from 7th Street to 4th Street to lower the road under the Amtrak overpass to increase vertical clearance from 12 feet 9 inches to 13 feet 9 inches.   

[jemacedo9]

Clarifying jemacedo9's post was "Wasn't Morton Ave lowered under the underpass there to remove the low clearance?  I think that opened the door for the re-route."

It sounds like you are referring to this project.

Crews are reconstructing curbs and sidewalks; milling and resurfacing the streets; installing new traffic signals; and reconstructing Morton Avenue from 7th Street to 4th Street to lower the road under the Amtrak overpass to increase vertical clearance from 12 feet 9 inches to 13 feet 9 inches.   

Yes (and I fixed the quote tags above).

[74/171FAN]

PennDOT District 2 is reporting a crash closing all lanes of US 322 on the east end of the State College Bypass.

[sbeaver44]

guess the detour for PA 352 proves that the signage for the US 13 changes approved by AASHTO recently have not been done yet.

I must have missed something. How is 13 getting realigned?

See here:  https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27090.msg2562670#msg2562670

Basically, US 13 is being realigned onto PA 291 and Morton Ave.  The current US 13 alignment will become US 13 Business.

Ahhh man I gotta go back and re-clinch US 13 in PA again

[74/171FAN]

PennDOT District 2 is reporting a crash closing all lanes of US 322 on the east end of the State College Bypass.

US 322 has reopened.

Also in relation to I-90 at PA 215: Interstate 90 Ramps for Route 215 in Erie County to be Closed

Update on PA 8 north of I-80: Work to Start Soon on the Second Year of the Route 8 Reconstruction Project in Venango County

[MASTERNC]

Nice of PennDOT to permit closure of a detour route around the SR 320 Hanging Rock project.

https://www.penndot.gov/RegionalOffices/district-6/pages/details.aspx?newsid=6535

[74/171FAN]

The lane configuration through the work zone will be three lanes on eastbound and one remaining on westbound.

This can't be right, can it?  3 lanes EB???

I think that means 2 EB and 1 WB on the eastbound roadway.

The lane configuration through the work zone will be three lanes on eastbound and one remaining on westbound.

This can't be right, can it?  3 lanes EB???

I think that means 2 EB and 1 WB on the eastbound roadway.

Now that I've reread it again, yeah, that must be it.

They should have called it the Express Lane setup or a split traffic pattern.  The wording was definitely confusing at first read.

Hopefully this link makes it clearer.  (https://www.penndot.gov/RegionalOffices/district-2/pages/details.aspx?newsid=1927)

[Crown Victoria]

The PA Transportation Revenue Options Commission (T-ROC) met for the first time yesterday. A final report is due August 1 of this year.

Potential revenue options discussed initially include doubling registration fees, a vehicle sales tax (presumably in addition to the sales tax already collected), electric car fees, mileage taxes, statewide tolling of Interstates, and congestion pricing.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2021/03/panel-begins-work-on-finding-new-ways-to-pay-for-pas-transportation-needs.html

[74/171FAN]

PennDOT District 1:  Route 6 Closed in Crawford County 

And here is the wind damage.

Also from District 6 on US 202: Morris Road to Close Beginning April 12 for Construction in Whitpain Township

[roadman65]

https://goo.gl/maps/V1Z9vrhdCzYF4K8u9
Love here how both freeways are I-70 above and below, but to get from one to the other is over a mile of driving between the two.

PS Love I am sarcastic.

[74/171FAN]

Upcoming closure on PA 320:  PECO to Close Route 320 (Sproul Road) Beginning April 14 for Utility Improvement in Marple Township

[MASTERNC]

Sounds like PennDOT is redoing bridge decks on I-79 north of the Ohio River in Pittsburgh.  Thought that stretch was done (bridges included) not that long ago.  Understand repaving but the bridges are a surprise.

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/transportation/2021/03/31/Pennsylvania-Department-of-Transportation-Allegheny-County-Beaver-County-Lawrence-County-road-projects-summer-schedule/stories/202103310075

[jemacedo9]

https://www.penndot.gov/regionaloffices/district-9/pages/details.aspx?newsid=904

Work to Begin on the Route 219 Meyersdale Bypass to Berlin Preservation Project

Overall work will consist of 4.4 miles of pavement preservation, bridge preservation, and safety enhancements to the existing four-lane facility. Concrete patching and overlay will take place on the four-lane roadways, a small portion of two-lane roadway will also be milled and overlayed.

Is this referring to the old US 219 routing between Berlin and Meyesrdale...of which I don't think there is a 4-lane section?
Or is this referring to the new US 219 freeway that shouldn't need any preservation as it is less than 5 years old?

[Mr_Northside]

https://www.penndot.gov/regionaloffices/district-9/pages/details.aspx?newsid=904

Is this referring to the old US 219 routing between Berlin and Meyesrdale...of which I don't think there is a 4-lane section?
Or is this referring to the new US 219 freeway that shouldn't need any preservation as it is less than 5 years old?

I suspect that this project must include at least part of the Meyersdale bypass, given I don't know that the 2-lane old route has any concrete, and the article also mentions putting cable barrier in the median.

[74/171FAN]

https://www.penndot.gov/regionaloffices/district-9/pages/details.aspx?newsid=904

Is this referring to the old US 219 routing between Berlin and Meyesrdale...of which I don't think there is a 4-lane section?
Or is this referring to the new US 219 freeway that shouldn't need any preservation as it is less than 5 years old?

I suspect that this project must include at least part of the Meyersdale bypass, given I don't know that the 2-lane old route has any concrete, and the article also mentions putting cable barrier in the median.

It comes off as referring to the new four-lane portion...

[BrianP]

https://www.penndot.gov/regionaloffices/district-9/pages/details.aspx?newsid=904

Is this referring to the old US 219 routing between Berlin and Meyesrdale...of which I don't think there is a 4-lane section?
Or is this referring to the new US 219 freeway that shouldn't need any preservation as it is less than 5 years old?

I suspect that this project must include at least part of the Meyersdale bypass, given I don't know that the 2-lane old route has any concrete, and the article also mentions putting cable barrier in the median.

It comes off as referring to the new four-lane portion...

It is odd that they mention Berlin.  But the 4.4 miles they refer to seems to match up with the old Meyersdale bypass if you include the two lane part down to here where the full shoulders end.  And it's about there where the bypass would meet the old road.

[74/171FAN]

Well in regard to Old US 219 (SR 2047): Work to Continue on Route 2047 (Berlin Plank Road) and 3021 (Plank Road), Brotherton Road Berlin/Somerset Interchange Project

[jemacedo9]

https://www.penndot.gov/regionaloffices/district-9/pages/details.aspx?newsid=904

Is this referring to the old US 219 routing between Berlin and Meyesrdale...of which I don't think there is a 4-lane section?
Or is this referring to the new US 219 freeway that shouldn't need any preservation as it is less than 5 years old?

I suspect that this project must include at least part of the Meyersdale bypass, given I don't know that the 2-lane old route has any concrete, and the article also mentions putting cable barrier in the median.

It comes off as referring to the new four-lane portion...

It is odd that they mention Berlin.  But the 4.4 miles they refer to seems to match up with the old Meyersdale bypass if you include the two lane part down to here where the full shoulders end.  And it's about there where the bypass would meet the old road.

That makes more sense...but agreed that mentioning Berlin is odd. 

But even there...is it already time for pavement rehab?  The Meyersdale Bypass is what...15 years old?

[sbeaver44]

Last night I drove all of PA 867, 868, and the section of PA 869 east of I-99 to clinch.   Going NB on 867, it takes a very odd route through Roaring Spring proper.  The turn from Sprang onto Main I missed partly because the 867 shield was missing for the left turn.  It is also a weird intersection and I couldn't tell which way the "left"  meant...and guessed wrong.   According to wiki, that is maintained by Roaring Spring Borough, not PennDOT.  And they could definitely have done a much better job with signage through the Borough.  I had to park and pull up Wiki + a map to figure out how it traversed the Borough.

Additionally, I feel like 868 would have been fine as a quadrant route. 

It's been a few years since I was on 869 west of I-99.  But I like the entire route.

[Mr_Northside]

But even there...is it already time for pavement rehab?  The Meyersdale Bypass is what...15 years old?

I'm pretty sure it opened in 1998..... so I think it's going on 23 years now.

Fuck, I feel old as dirt.

[74/171FAN]

Last night I drove all of PA 867, 868, and the section of PA 869 east of I-99 to clinch.   Going NB on 867, it takes a very odd route through Roaring Spring proper.  The turn from Sprang onto Main I missed partly because the 867 shield was missing for the left turn.  It is also a weird intersection and I couldn't tell which way the "left"  meant...and guessed wrong.   According to wiki, that is maintained by Roaring Spring Borough, not PennDOT.  And they could definitely have done a much better job with signage through the Borough.  I had to park and pull up Wiki + a map to figure out how it traversed the Borough.

Additionally, I feel like 868 would have been fine as a quadrant route. 

It's been a few years since I was on 869 west of I-99.  But I like the entire route.

I agree with you on PA 869.  It definitely has scenic value, and I think is one of the better mountain routes to drive in that area.  You even get practically an aerial view of I-99/US 220.

[noelbotevera]

While fooling around Google Maps, I found this curiosity. It is located on US 1 at the bleeding edge of the Philly city limits, near where US 1 turns into a freeway into New Jersey. The overpass is old - maybe 1960s or 1970s - and is located in the middle of a field. There does seem to be remnants of roads and parking lots to the north (towards the top) but any sort of access from this side is gated.

Any story behind this?