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Capital cities without a 3-di

Started by OCGuy81, April 21, 2022, 11:57:36 AM

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OCGuy81

I think this is the complete list. This is for signed 3-di routes.

Olympia,WA
Salem, OR
Sacramento, CA
Phoenix, AZ
Santa Fe, NM
Bismarck, ND
Pierre, SD
Lincoln, NE
Austin, TX
Jefferson City, MO
Madison, WI
Springfield, IL
Montgomery, AL
Charleston, WV
Dover, DE
Montpelier, VT

I feel I'm missing some...


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1995hoo

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"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
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OCGuy81

Quote from: 1995hoo on April 21, 2022, 12:01:07 PM
You forgot Juneau.

Dammit!! That should've been the easiest one! 😂

JayhawkCO

#4
Tallahassee
Frankfort
Helena

OCGuy81


JayhawkCO

And depending on how you count it, I-505 is technically in the Sacramento MSA.

I-55

Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 21, 2022, 12:10:29 PM
And depending on how you count it, I-505 is technically in the Sacramento MSA.

Here's a good comparison: If I-440 didn't exist in Nashville (or was just a TN state route) would I-840 count for this thread?
Purdue Civil Engineering '24
Quote from: I-55 on April 13, 2025, 09:39:41 PMThe correct question is "if ARDOT hasn't signed it, why does Google show it?" and the answer as usual is "because Google Maps signs stuff incorrectly all the time"

OCGuy81

Interesting how 40% of state capitals aren't served by a 3-di

OCGuy81


kphoger

Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 21, 2022, 12:25:43 PM
Interesting how 40% of state capitals aren't served by a 3-di

And yet it simultaneously makes the whole thread less interesting.   :-/

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
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Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

JayhawkCO

Quote from: I-55 on April 21, 2022, 12:16:55 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 21, 2022, 12:10:29 PM
And depending on how you count it, I-505 is technically in the Sacramento MSA.

Here's a good comparison: If I-440 didn't exist in Nashville (or was just a TN state route) would I-840 count for this thread?

I agree it's a valid comparison, but a loop around a central hub (Nashville) is a slightly different than a N/S bypass. I personally think it "serves" Sacramento enough.

SP Cook

Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 21, 2022, 12:25:43 PM
Interesting how 40% of state capitals aren't served by a 3-di

Well, some states are very small, and some quite large states have chosen to place their capital in something other than the largest city, or in some cases in places that can hardly even be called a city. 

OCGuy81


OCGuy81

Quote from: kphoger on April 21, 2022, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 21, 2022, 12:25:43 PM
Interesting how 40% of state capitals aren't served by a 3-di

And yet it simultaneously makes the whole thread less interesting.   :-/

I thought it'd be a fun discussion. But I can never be near as interesting as you. Teach me!

I-55

Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 21, 2022, 12:26:31 PM
Annapolis too. Left that off

If we counted unsigned 3dis it would count (same for I-305, I-194).
Purdue Civil Engineering '24
Quote from: I-55 on April 13, 2025, 09:39:41 PMThe correct question is "if ARDOT hasn't signed it, why does Google show it?" and the answer as usual is "because Google Maps signs stuff incorrectly all the time"

webny99

Quote from: kphoger on April 21, 2022, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 21, 2022, 12:25:43 PM
Interesting how 40% of state capitals aren't served by a 3-di

And yet it simultaneously makes the whole thread less interesting.   :-/

I think it's plenty interesting, but the problem is that there's only a fixed number of capitals, so it's not bound to be a very long discussion regardless of how many do/don't have 3di's.

kphoger

Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 21, 2022, 12:37:19 PM
But I can never be near as interesting as you. Teach me!

First, take a really goofy photo of yourself.  Then edit it with multiple filters and adjustments.  Then set it as your avatar on a geeky web forum.  Now you're well on your way!

:-D

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

kphoger

Quote from: webny99 on April 21, 2022, 12:44:59 PM

Quote from: kphoger on April 21, 2022, 12:28:00 PM

Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 21, 2022, 12:25:43 PM
Interesting how 40% of state capitals aren't served by a 3-di

And yet it simultaneously makes the whole thread less interesting.   :-/

I think it's plenty interesting, but the problem is that there's only a fixed number of capitals, so it's not bound to be a very long discussion regardless of how many do/don't have 3di's.

If we cross the 50% threshold, then it might me more interesting to ask which ones have a 3di...

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

MATraveler128

Formerly BlueOutback7

Lowest untraveled number: 96

skluth


JayhawkCO

Yep, my bad. Forgot about that one. Editing.

US 89

Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 21, 2022, 12:10:29 PM
And depending on how you count it, I-505 is technically in the Sacramento MSA.

Sacramento also has I-305, but it's not signed

JayhawkCO

Quote from: US 89 on April 21, 2022, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 21, 2022, 12:10:29 PM
And depending on how you count it, I-505 is technically in the Sacramento MSA.

Sacramento also has I-305, but it's not signed

Yep. OP specifically said signed.

1995hoo

Augusta, Maine, doesn't have a 3di within the city limits, although I-295's northern terminus is only about five miles to the south, so maybe that might count. I'd argue that what is now I-295 (which used to be I-95) was not really built to serve Augusta per se and was more to connect the coastal communities to Portland and to the Maine Turnpike. It also bears noting that the former I-495 part of the Maine Turnpike (now I-95) already existed long before an Interstate number was slapped on it (I believe that was in 1987 because an Interstate number was required to allow for a 65-mph speed limit).
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.



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