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Started by Alex, March 07, 2009, 07:01:05 PM

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Crown Victoria

#2350
Quote from: VTGoose on September 07, 2022, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: Crown Victoria on September 03, 2022, 12:54:09 PM
Apparently some progress has been made detailing potential improvements to the I-81 corridor from Maryland to I-78. I don't recall seeing any of this being publicized in the media or discussed in this forum, but here it is.

This has only been years in the making, probably going back to the late '90s (it would take some digging to find out). At any rate, I-81 was a known problem from Tennessee to New York and the various states got together to discuss solutions. West Virginia (with only a short section) was the most proactive, widening sections of the interstate and making other improvements. Virginia entertained some public/private solutions (such as separate truck lanes, etc.) but didn't act until just recently. It appears that Pennsylvania is also finally doing something these many years later. Had the various proposals been acted on way back then, travel on I-81 would probably be much better today. Hindsight is wonderful.

Bruce in Blacksburg

You do realize that I was referring to the current list of improvements being pursued by PennDOT as listed on the site linked to directly below my statement that you quoted, right? There's been very little publicity about any of it, probably because there's not much widening involved.

I am most certainly aware of efforts over decades to improve I-81. It would be great to see I-81 at six lanes all the way from I-77 to I-84, but I also realize that won't happen anytime soon.


Roadsguy

Quote from: Crown Victoria on September 07, 2022, 08:58:13 PM
It would be great to see I-81 at six lanes all the way from I-77 to I-84

Honestly, I think I-78 should be six-laned over to Allentown before 81 is widened north from 78. From I-80 north to Scranton, though, could really use it.

Fortunately, there is also a project to widen I-81 in Luzerne County through the Wilkes-Barre area. This one is actually supposed to go to construction in the next few years, and will probably be the first "proper" widening (i.e. through multiple interchanges, not just a glorified auxiliary lane) of 81 in the state.
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Crown Victoria

#2352
Quote from: Roadsguy on September 07, 2022, 09:13:16 PM
Quote from: Crown Victoria on September 07, 2022, 08:58:13 PM
It would be great to see I-81 at six lanes all the way from I-77 to I-84

Honestly, I think I-78 should be six-laned over to Allentown before 81 is widened north from 78. From I-80 north to Scranton, though, could really use it.

Fortunately, there is also a project to widen I-81 in Luzerne County through the Wilkes-Barre area. This one is actually supposed to go to construction in the next few years, and will probably be the first "proper" widening (i.e. through multiple interchanges, not just a glorified auxiliary lane) of 81 in the state.

Of course. The section of I-81 between I-78 and I-80 could wait until I-78 itself is widened. But I figure, I-81 in Schuylkill County could use truck lanes anyway, so we may as well include that section and take the six-lane all the way to I-84 (or even to I-476 at Clarks Summit).

Maybe PennDOT should have pursued tolling I-81 instead of I-80 (and also dropped the mass transit funding idea). And maybe VDOT should have chosen tolls on I-81. But that's a whole other discussion...

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ARMOURERERIC

FWIW, the PA Turnpike Scranton Beltway plan is rapidly moving up their capital improvement plans

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74/171FAN

#2357
Looking through the CE Expert System this morning, I saw some interesting traffic control for planned bridge replacements on PA 903 and PA 97.

PA 903:  (seems to be a one way temporary bridge)
QuoteA temporary run around for northbound traffic on S.R. 903 will be in place during construction. The run around will carry traffic through a temporary bridge over Mud Run, east of S.R. 903.

PA 97:  (detour goes into MD)

(For PA 611) PennDOT - District 6 News: PECO to Close Southbound Route 611 (Old York Road) at Night for Utility Improvement in Abington Township

PennDOT - District 1 News: Pymatuning State Park Trail Extension Project in Crawford County Marks Milestone with Reassembly of the Messerall Truss Bridge
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Crown Victoria


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74/171FAN

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MASTERNC

Interesting use of four section left turn signals outside Philly in Upper Darby. Newer installations along Landsdowne Ave and US 1 have the setup for flashing yellow arrows but they aren't using the flashing signal. The sequence of the lenses is the same but there is no flashing phase and they use a Left Turn Signal sign for protected turns instead of a FYA sign.


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74/171FAN

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74/171FAN

#2371
PennDOT - District 4 News: PennDOT Resumes Environmental Reviews for I-81 Susquehanna Bridges Project

(For US 11, PA 307, and the President Biden Expressway) PennDOT Announces Online Plans Displays for the SR 3023 (Cedar Ave) Section D50, over Roaring Brook Bridge Rehabilitation, SR 8025 Section 250, over Roaring Brook Bridge Rehabilitation, and SR 8025 Section PRS, over Ramp D in the City of Scranton, Lackawanna County

(For US 119)  PennDOT - District 10 News: Traffic Alert - US 119 Ramp Closure for Repairs

PennDOT - District 8 News: Repairs Planned on SB I-83 John Harris Memorial (South) Bridge

CE Expert System Links:

September 30, 2022:
US 6/US 209 Bridge over Delaware River

QuoteBridge rehabilitation on State Route 6 (Pike Street) over the Delaware River in Matamoras Borough, Pike County. The existing structure is a two-span steel thru truss bridge built in 1939. Existing bridge deck will be replaced with a reinforced concrete deck. Other work activities consist of blast clean and painting of truss members, structural steel repairs, steel member repair, concrete substructure repairs, open grid deck replacement and approach milling and paving. Full depth roadway pavement reconstruction will be limited to the immediate bridge approaches only, where grade adjustments will be needed for the new bridge deck. New guide rail, signing, and pavement markings will also be provided throughout the project limits. The majority of the bridge work can be accomplished from the approaches within existing legal right-of-way. The need for new ROW acquisition is being evaluated. Temporary construction easements will be provided, as necessary, for construction access or to accommodate erosion and sedimentation control measures.

I-83 SB at PA 238 (Exit 24) Offramp

QuoteThe project includes widening of the Exit 24 South Bound Ramp of I-83 to create a separate right turn lane for traffic turning onto westbound Church Road (S.R. 0238) to reduce congestion. The project is located in Manchester Township, York County. The project will also include traffic signal improvements to both the signal at the ramp intersection with Church Road and at the Church Road/Board Road/Exit 24 northbound ramp intersection. A retaining wall is proposed west of the ramp to limit the cut slope. The ramp will be closed during construction and traffic will be detoured.

October 3, 2022:

PA 403 between US 219 and PA 985
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roadman65

#2374
Speaking of the above link, I noticed the Paxton Street detour for I-83 northbound brought me onto GSV.
https://goo.gl/maps/dmkwJgqfvJr8V7kb6
I can't help notice that Paxton is four lanes and has a raised curb median that was typical of four lane highways in PA decades ago.  I assume this part of Paxton was once US 322 before the current Eisenhower interchange got built.
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