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US-15 freeway opens in NY State

Started by lepidopteran, October 10, 2013, 06:54:58 PM

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I'd love to see US-15 remain where it is - or in my dreams, re-commissioned up NY-15. It's always been one of my favorite roads since I was a kid and I have fond memories of traveling down it on trips from Buffalo to Southern Maryland, way back to when most of it was still 2-lane.

It sounds like they'll decommission it in Williamsport at some point, though I do agree with possibly routing it over PA-147 after the CSVT is built.


Alps

Quote from: Roadgeek Adam on October 19, 2013, 01:35:10 PM
Quote from: vdeane on October 19, 2013, 12:49:42 PM
Doesn't US 220 technically enter NY for a VERY small distance (up to old 17)?

I don't think AASHTO likes the idea of US 15 ending at the border (or I-99 for that matter); I seem to recall a roadmeet mention of NYSDOT proposing it and having it rejected.

220 enters NY for .10 of a mile, going to old 17, yes.

Historically, 15 ended at the NY state line for 1936-7, but that was because of the NY ego.
No, it was because NY rejected the PA ego wherein every road had to be a US highway.

english si

Quote from: Steve on October 21, 2013, 07:48:33 PMNo, it was because NY rejected the PA ego wherein every road had to be a US highway.
Was it Schuster's granddad pushing for it?

That said, while Bud gave US220 a relatively silly interstate number, he didn't try and get interstate designations for other freeways in his district (US22, US219).

NE2

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/numbers.cfm
QuoteHowever, Colonel Greene took one look at the field map and concluded that too many roads had been selected. During the Joint Board's April meeting, he had advocated that the U.S. designation be given only to transcontinental routes; seeing the field map convinced him that the Joint Board would have to eliminate a large number of alternates, short cuts, and cross roads that could not fairly be considered as of transcontinental significance, or even of major importance.

The New York map was drawn in accordance with Colonel Greene's views on the type of route that should be given a U.S. number. He indicated that on his own initiative, he would send a copy of his New York State map to the other States so they could more clearly see his idea of the desirable density of transcontinental routes.

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/us22.cfm
QuotePrior to November 11, 1926, AASHO had added several routes to the U.S. numbered system at the request of William H. Connell, Pennsylvania's Engineering Executive and Deputy Secretary of Highways.

Anyway, it wasn't only Pennsylvania that was too greedy for New York: US 6 at first had a gap, ending at the Connecticut border and picking back up at the Delaware River, and US 4 ended at the first available crossing route in New York (NY 5 could have made a perfect US 4).
pre-1945 Florida route log

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