States with the worst drivers USA Today

[bing101]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/10/which-state-has-worst-drivers/20205339/

Odd Montana is Number one in the list.

[realjd]

I guess we're not that bad here in FL after all when you account for accident rates. We must be really good at driving like assholes, safely.

[Zeffy]

There's no way a list could not include Massachusetts in the top 5 - 4 of it's cities are in the "cities with the worst drivers" list!

[oscar]

Odd that Hawaii is worst for speeding -- the state has unusually low speed limits, and topography and road conditions also hold speeds down.

[on_wisconsin]

Again, another list totally invalidated for sheer lack of containing any mention of FIB'ville (Illinois).

[spooky]

Careless Driving — Pedestrian and bicyclist fatalities per 100,000 population

What a terrible way to define careless driving.

[freebrickproductions]

If they factored in not using your turn signal while driving, then I'm pretty sure Alabama would be near the top of the list.

[jeffandnicole]

The headline really isn't correct...it's States with the worst rate of fatalities.  States like NJ tend to rank low on these because of all the congestion: It's been often noted it's tough to go fast enough to have a fatal accident in the state.  States like Montana will rank high because people drive faster.  I wouldn't say that fatals relate to overall "worst drivers" though.

It depends on the state, but "Careless Driving" is a very generic violation that could cover a host of issues.  Delaware may mark that on accident reports in a lot of fatal accidents just as a generic cause for the accident. (Although careless is just the tip of the iceberg for how many of their drivers drive!!!)

[Brandon]

There's no way a list could not include Massachusetts in the top 5 - 4 of it's cities are in the "cities with the worst drivers" list!

Ditto with Illinois.  There's a reason they're called FIBs*.

*Fucking Illinois Bastards.

[hotdogPi]

Things don't suddenly get better or worse when you cross a state border (unless the number of lanes also changes, or similar things like that).

[Brandon]

Things don't suddenly get better or worse when you cross a state border (unless the number of lanes also changes, or similar things like that).

They do, however, get worse as one enters a specific metropolitan area.  Chicagoland and NW Indiana, for instance.  After traveling peacefully on I-65, I-94, or the Toll Road, I suddenly enter the Borman Expressway, and all hell breaks loose.

[jeffandnicole]

Things don't suddenly get better or worse when you cross a state border (unless the number of lanes also changes, or similar things like that).

They do, however, get worse as one enters a specific metropolitan area.  Chicagoland and NW Indiana, for instance.  After traveling peacefully on I-65, I-94, or the Toll Road, I suddenly enter the Borman Expressway, and all hell breaks loose.

Is it because people see the sign for the expressway and they go balistically insane, or is it simply a factor of more people, which occurs in Any City, USA?

[Brandon]

Things don't suddenly get better or worse when you cross a state border (unless the number of lanes also changes, or similar things like that).

They do, however, get worse as one enters a specific metropolitan area.  Chicagoland and NW Indiana, for instance.  After traveling peacefully on I-65, I-94, or the Toll Road, I suddenly enter the Borman Expressway, and all hell breaks loose.

Is it because people see the sign for the expressway and they go balistically insane, or is it simply a factor of more people, which occurs in Any City, USA?

A few factors.

1. More people is one of them, especially this stretch with driving habits from anywhere and everywhere.
2. More Chicago drivers here as well.  They're the worst of the offenders.  I've been in places with more people, and this freeway is the tops of the ones I've driven for craziness.

[cjk374]

Louisiana got ranked 6th because of all the Texans driving here.    

[Brandon]

Louisiana got ranked 6th because of all the Texans driving here.    

Yeah, I noticed that while driving in Texas on Thanksgiving week.  I felt like I'd gotten back to Chicagoland in some sort of weird time-and-space warp.

[realjd]

Things don't suddenly get better or worse when you cross a state border (unless the number of lanes also changes, or similar things like that).

They do, however, get worse as one enters a specific metropolitan area.  Chicagoland and NW Indiana, for instance.  After traveling peacefully on I-65, I-94, or the Toll Road, I suddenly enter the Borman Expressway, and all hell breaks loose.

Is it because people see the sign for the expressway and they go balistically insane, or is it simply a factor of more people, which occurs in Any City, USA?

A few factors.

1. More people is one of them, especially this stretch with driving habits from anywhere and everywhere.
2. More Chicago drivers here as well.  They're the worst of the offenders.  I've been in places with more people, and this freeway is the tops of the ones I've driven for craziness.

Do people from Joliet not consider themselves from Chicago, or does it get worse when you get to the city proper?

Come to think of it, Chicago is the only city I can think of where people will answer "where are you from?" with an obscure suburb name instead of just saying Chicago if they're from the metro area and talking to someone clearly not familiar with the area.