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Historic US route and active US route at the same time

Started by Revive 755, April 19, 2016, 06:29:37 PM

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Revive 755

In Iowa there are signs for 'Historic US 6', even where US 6 has not been rerouted onto I-80 (Example in Iowa City).  Is there anywhere else that uses the historic shields when the actual route has not been decommissioned?  Please do not count regular shields using 'Old' or 'Former' banners.

Side note before someone else mentions it:  I have not searched the web to see how many of the Historic US 6 shields, if any, should instead be for Historic US 32.



Mapmikey

Oregon has Historic US 30 shields on its former non I-84 routing just east of Portland.

Oddly, Virginia put up brown "Historic Route 1" text signs (i.e. no shield) underneath a fair number of US 1 shield assemblies throughout the Commonwealth.  Other than a few street changes within cities, US 1 pretty much follows its original path. 


Max Rockatansky

US 6 has a huge following, I actually bought one of those Historic US 6 signs off the club that produced a lot of them a couple years back.  They seemed pretty dedicated to the route, they even had an annual news letter.  I've seen some trace historic US 101 signs out here in California, mostly down in San Diego but in other places along the El Camino Real a LOOOOONNNNG time ago.

US71

There are some sections of "Historic US 40" out west
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: US71 on April 19, 2016, 10:20:29 PM
There are some sections of "Historic US 40" out west

Donner Pass actually has a pretty nice one out in the Sierras.  Long disconnected from the rest of what is currently US 40 though.

Buck87

US 20 recently had some historic route shields pop in towns in north central Ohio (my avatar is a cropped version of one)

The ones I've seen in Norwalk and Monroeville are placed on former alignments of US 20, though the ones in Bellevue are on the current alignment.

RobbieL2415

The eastern end of US 6 in Provincetown, MA is under NPS jurisdiction.  There are "State Highway Ends/Begins" signs a tenth of a mile (or two) before the actual terminus.  Old US 6 is signed as MA 6A through the center of Provincetown, but the "historic" signage is on the four-lane bypass, which makes no sense to me.

froggie


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Quote from: Buck87 on April 20, 2016, 09:45:36 AM
US 20 recently had some historic route shields pop in towns in north central Ohio (my avatar is a cropped version of one)

The ones I've seen in Norwalk and Monroeville are placed on former alignments of US 20, though the ones in Bellevue are on the current alignment.
Damn, beaten to it.

The US20 society does like signing HistUS20 conncurrently with US20, though will take the original alignment where it is different.

I think - as well as MA, NY, PA and OH stretches, many of which are at least partially concurrent with US20 - Lusk, WY has a fairly big stretch of HistUS20 with some stretches concurrent with current US20.
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on April 20, 2016, 09:53:10 AM
The eastern end of US 6 in Provincetown, MA is under NPS jurisdiction.  There are "State Highway Ends/Begins" signs a tenth of a mile (or two) before the actual terminus.  Old US 6 is signed as MA 6A through the center of Provincetown, but the "historic" signage is on the four-lane bypass, which makes no sense to me.
That one is dumb!

vdeane

The two sections of Historic US 20 that I'm aware of (I-81 to I-88 and east of New Lebanon) are almost entirely concurrent with US 20, with the New Lebanon one taking a reference route that was US 20 for its one nonconcurrent section.  Someone should really petition MassDOT to remove the historic US 6 signs in Provincetown (honestly, I don't think they should be on any sections that are concurrent with the current route, but the US 6 one is the stupidest).
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PHLBOS

Quote from: vdeane on April 20, 2016, 12:47:07 PM
The two sections of Historic US 20 that I'm aware of (I-81 to I-88 and east of New Lebanon) are almost entirely concurrent with US 20, with the New Lebanon one taking a reference route that was US 20 for its one nonconcurrent section.  Someone should really petition MassDOT to remove the historic US 6 signs in Provincetown (honestly, I don't think they should be on any sections that are concurrent with the current route, but the US 6 one is the stupidest).
Along the US 20 stretch between Auburn and Sturbridge (both in Massachusetts); there's at least one Historic US 20 shield posted on the road.
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peterj920

There are historic US 41 route markers along Wis 241/27th St in Milwaukee.  There's a website with a guide that l listed below and the signs were posted to brand the business district. 

http://www.experience41.com/

paulthemapguy

The only examples I've seen, other than Historic 66's, are the example cited in the OP and this in Auburn, CA

https://goo.gl/maps/DRuWXGZJdPL2

I went on US6 in Iowa to find Historic US6 signs near the Amana Colonies area back in February.  I don't see a point in those unless US6 is being rerouted along I-80
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Max Rockatansky

Forgot about the Historic US 395 section between Temecula and San Diego on I-15.

Super Mateo



This is at the end of the western concurrency with US 63.



Going the opposite direction, though, signage guides US 6 and Historic 6 in different directions.

cpzilliacus

The old National Road west of Cumberland, Maryland is now signed as Alternate U.S. 40.   U.S. 40 follows the route of I-68 from Hancock to a point where it diverts from freeway at Keyser's Ridge, and heads west/northwest into Pennsylvania toward Uniontown.

In the past, I believe sections of Alternate U.S. 40 were signed as Scenic U.S. 40.
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hbelkins

Quote from: cpzilliacus on April 22, 2016, 04:54:11 PM
The old National Road west of Cumberland, Maryland is now signed as Alternate U.S. 40.   U.S. 40 follows the route of I-68 from Hancock to a point where it diverts from freeway at Keyser's Ridge, and heads west/northwest into Pennsylvania toward Uniontown.

In the past, I believe sections of Alternate U.S. 40 were signed as Scenic U.S. 40.

Some sections between Cumberland and Hancock are still signed as Scenic 40.
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Rothman

Quote from: cpzilliacus on April 22, 2016, 04:54:11 PM
The old National Road west of Cumberland, Maryland is now signed as Alternate U.S. 40.   U.S. 40 follows the route of I-68 from Hancock to a point where it diverts from freeway at Keyser's Ridge, and heads west/northwest into Pennsylvania toward Uniontown.

In the past, I believe sections of Alternate U.S. 40 were signed as Scenic U.S. 40.

*scratches head*

I sort of miss the days before I-68 where you had to take US 40 around the almost-hairpin curve on the hill.  I can't remember how old US 40 was signed once I-68 was completed though, or even where old US 48 was signed and where it wasn't.
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cpzilliacus

Quote from: Rothman on April 25, 2016, 11:48:36 AM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on April 22, 2016, 04:54:11 PM
The old National Road west of Cumberland, Maryland is now signed as Alternate U.S. 40.   U.S. 40 follows the route of I-68 from Hancock to a point where it diverts from freeway at Keyser's Ridge, and heads west/northwest into Pennsylvania toward Uniontown.

In the past, I believe sections of Alternate U.S. 40 were signed as Scenic U.S. 40.

*scratches head*

I sort of miss the days before I-68 where you had to take US 40 around the almost-hairpin curve on the hill.  I can't remember how old US 40 was signed once I-68 was completed though, or even where old US 48 was signed and where it wasn't.

U.S. 48 was signed on what is now I-68.  In the years prior to the end of U.S. 48 (and its re-desigation as I-68), U.S. 40 followed U.S. 48 from Hancock to Keyser's Ridge. 

Though I can remember driving the corridor in about 1983, and that was before (most of what is now) I-68 had been built between Hancock and Cumberland (the terrible hairpin turn at the crest of Sideling Hill was there west of Hancock, and featured the most-densely and brightly illuminated section of road I have ever seen anywhere). U.S. 48 just came to an (unannounced) end someplace in Cumberland, probably around the east end of the Cumberland Thruway.  There were short freeway sections of U.S. 40 from the I-70 interchange at U.S. 40 and U.S. 522 to the foot of Sideling Hill, and another in the vicinity of Town Hill east of Flintstone. 
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