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Started by BridgesToIdealism, October 27, 2020, 07:33:03 PM

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kphoger

Quote from: DandyDan on October 28, 2020, 04:57:57 AM
Whatever you think of I-180 in Illinois existing, the bridge over the Illinois River at Hennepin needs to exist, at least for local traffic.

Why?  Before I-180, there was already a bridge over the Illinois River in Hennepin (old Route 26).

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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thspfc

Quote from: kphoger on October 28, 2020, 12:23:50 PM
Quote from: DandyDan on October 28, 2020, 04:57:57 AM
Whatever you think of I-180 in Illinois existing, the bridge over the Illinois River at Hennepin needs to exist, at least for local traffic.

Why?  Before I-180, there was already a bridge over the Illinois River in Hennepin (old Route 26).
It doesn't exist anymore, so how is that relevant today? I-180 in IL was created to serve a power plant (or something of that sort, I'm not entirely sure), and it is now very lightly traveled because that power plant/whatever it was closed. The point is that the I-180 bridge over the river is the only bridge that currently exists in Hennepin, so the bridge will stay regardless of what happens to I-180 itself.

Flint1979

Quote from: thspfc on October 28, 2020, 01:28:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 28, 2020, 12:23:50 PM
Quote from: DandyDan on October 28, 2020, 04:57:57 AM
Whatever you think of I-180 in Illinois existing, the bridge over the Illinois River at Hennepin needs to exist, at least for local traffic.

Why?  Before I-180, there was already a bridge over the Illinois River in Hennepin (old Route 26).
It doesn't exist anymore, so how is that relevant today? I-180 in IL was created to serve a power plant (or something of that sort, I'm not entirely sure), and it is now very lightly traveled because that power plant/whatever it was closed. The point is that the I-180 bridge over the river is the only bridge that currently exists in Hennepin, so the bridge will stay regardless of what happens to I-180 itself.
Steel plant

thspfc

Quote from: Flint1979 on October 28, 2020, 01:49:05 PM
Quote from: thspfc on October 28, 2020, 01:28:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 28, 2020, 12:23:50 PM
Quote from: DandyDan on October 28, 2020, 04:57:57 AM
Whatever you think of I-180 in Illinois existing, the bridge over the Illinois River at Hennepin needs to exist, at least for local traffic.

Why?  Before I-180, there was already a bridge over the Illinois River in Hennepin (old Route 26).
It doesn't exist anymore, so how is that relevant today? I-180 in IL was created to serve a power plant (or something of that sort, I'm not entirely sure), and it is now very lightly traveled because that power plant/whatever it was closed. The point is that the I-180 bridge over the river is the only bridge that currently exists in Hennepin, so the bridge will stay regardless of what happens to I-180 itself.
Steel plant
You sure it wasn't Flint?  :-D

Flint1979

Quote from: thspfc on October 28, 2020, 01:50:09 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 28, 2020, 01:49:05 PM
Quote from: thspfc on October 28, 2020, 01:28:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 28, 2020, 12:23:50 PM
Quote from: DandyDan on October 28, 2020, 04:57:57 AM
Whatever you think of I-180 in Illinois existing, the bridge over the Illinois River at Hennepin needs to exist, at least for local traffic.

Why?  Before I-180, there was already a bridge over the Illinois River in Hennepin (old Route 26).
It doesn't exist anymore, so how is that relevant today? I-180 in IL was created to serve a power plant (or something of that sort, I'm not entirely sure), and it is now very lightly traveled because that power plant/whatever it was closed. The point is that the I-180 bridge over the river is the only bridge that currently exists in Hennepin, so the bridge will stay regardless of what happens to I-180 itself.
Steel plant
You sure it wasn't Flint?  :-D
Haha. Well I know it was a Jones and Laughlin plant and that's a steel company and the name of the drive leading to the plant is called Steel Drive.

kphoger

Quote from: thspfc on October 28, 2020, 01:28:14 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 28, 2020, 12:23:50 PM

Quote from: DandyDan on October 28, 2020, 04:57:57 AM
Whatever you think of I-180 in Illinois existing, the bridge over the Illinois River at Hennepin needs to exist, at least for local traffic.

Why?  Before I-180, there was already a bridge over the Illinois River in Hennepin (old Route 26).

It doesn't exist anymore, so how is that relevant today? I-180 in IL was created to serve a power plant (or something of that sort, I'm not entirely sure), and it is now very lightly traveled because that power plant/whatever it was closed. The point is that the I-180 bridge over the river is the only bridge that currently exists in Hennepin, so the bridge will stay regardless of what happens to I-180 itself.

I think you were tracking along the lines of "should be demolished", whereas I was tracking along the lines of "should never have been built".

My point is that, had I-180 never been built, the locals of Hennepin would nevertheless have a bridge across the river.  It would still be part of Route 26.

Your point is that, now that I-180 has been built and the old bridge demolished, the existing bridge should be kept even if I-180 were ripped up.

Both of those points are valid.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.