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Worst downtown freeway exit tangles

Started by STLmapboy, May 14, 2020, 09:58:57 PM

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Quote from: ilpt4u on May 16, 2020, 11:05:13 PM
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Quote from: stridentweasel on May 16, 2020, 08:37:21 PM
Define "overengineered."


Anything that gets less total traffic than was expected upon design. Like a 3-lane freeway that gets few cards (coughAkroncough)
How about the two sequential Y-Interchange Freeway-style exits in East St Louis off 55/64, one for IL 3 South and the other for E St Louis surface streets (Tudor Ave Exit/Piggott Ave Entrance)?

Both of those were for freeways that were never built:  A freeway along IL 3 down to I-255 and then beyond to Marion, and a freeway out to the IL 15/IL 163 intersection.  Had they been built the PSB probably would have had even more issues, but I believe the one at IL 3 still handles a good amount of traffic.

I'm taking issue with the use of "overengineered".  It seems some would rather end up with a lot more Breezewood situations rather than have something built for future improvements that may not come to fruition.  It is usually easier to downgrade a facility/interchange rather than upgrade it if it is designed for less traffic than anticipated.


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Quote from: stridentweasel on May 15, 2020, 07:47:40 PM

Quote from: kphoger on May 15, 2020, 12:24:56 PM

Quote from: STLmapboy on May 14, 2020, 09:58:57 PM
the infamous alphabet loop of KC (https://www.google.pl/maps/@39.1008552,-94.5884894,2164m/data=!3m1!1e3).

I've never had a problem with KC's loop.

Have you ever tried following northbound I-35 (the signed way)?  Those two quick, consecutive lane changes to the left can be a pain.

It's so horrible that the 45-MPH speed limit is probably warranted.  But Kansas City drivers are so horrible that you're unlikely to ever see them come close to obeying it.

I-35 along its signed route is my usual route through the city at any time of day other than near rush hour.

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