A Stop Sign on Railroad Tracks

[Regnaur]

This stop sign exists in the Port of Long Beach, CA. Huh?

[Max Rockatansky]

Followed by a "Keep Here"  way behind the tracks.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Now I'm curious what the most tracks crossed at one crossing are (this one is 8).

[1995hoo]

Now I'm curious what the most tracks crossed at one crossing are (this one is 8).

The most I know of is 10 in Sanford, Florida: https://goo.gl/maps/4gRz1nwiG6jsU7Vp9  (I've passed that sign many times, but I've never crossed all ten tracks because I always make the right turn up ahead into the train station. Never had any reason to go the other way.)

I think we've had the "most tracks at a crossing" discussion before because I'm certain I remember discussing that location.

[sprjus4]

Here's another 8 track one along Portlock Rd in Chesapeake, VA.

[kphoger]

Wichita has a 14-track crossing.  I can't remember off the top of my head if any bigger one has been mentioned in previous discussions.

[kphoger]

OK, I found the old thread, and it looks like nobody could come up with a current location that beats 14 tracks.  Historical examples, yes, but none current.

[skquinn]

This stop sign exists in the Port of Long Beach, CA. Huh?

This is crazy. In order to stop for the stop sign, you have to stop on railroad tracks at least briefly. Who comes up with these things?

[mrsman]

This stop sign exists in the Port of Long Beach, CA. Huh?

This is crazy. In order to stop for the stop sign, you have to stop on railroad tracks at least briefly. Who comes up with these things?

I guess this could be made safer with a signalized crossing, stopping before the tracks.  But there doesn't seem to be a way to put a stop sign behind the tracks because then, you'd be too far to see cross traffic.  So if a signal were warranted, it can be placed behind the tracks.

[kphoger]

More from the rail yard in Wichita...

Stop sign on a 7-track crossing

Stop sign on a 3-track crossing

[mrsman]

More from the rail yard in Wichita...

Stop sign on a 7-track crossing

Stop sign on a 3-track crossing

Is there any way to address the safety of this without signalizing the intersection?

[Brian556]

More from the rail yard in Wichita...

Stop sign on a 7-track crossing

Since this intersection is an all-way stop, drivers should easily go out of turn in order to clear the tracks. There are tons of examples of this situation where the intersection is not an all-way stop, which is really dangerous.

Stop sign on a 3-track crossing

Is there any way to address the safety of this without signalizing the intersection?

Since this intersection is an all-way stop, drivers should easily go out of turn in order to clear the tracks. There are tons of examples of this situation where the intersection is not an all-way stop, which is really dangerous.

[kphoger]

More from the rail yard in Wichita...

Stop sign on a 7-track crossing

Stop sign on a 3-track crossing

Is there any way to address the safety of this without signalizing the intersection?

Since this intersection is an all-way stop, drivers should easily go out of turn in order to clear the tracks. There are tons of examples of this situation where the intersection is not an all-way stop, which is really dangerous.

What intersection is an all-way stop?  None of the ones you quoted are all-way stops.

[Brian556]

More from the rail yard in Wichita...

Stop sign on a 7-track crossing

Stop sign on a 3-track crossing

Is there any way to address the safety of this without signalizing the intersection?

Since this intersection is an all-way stop, drivers should easily go out of turn in order to clear the tracks. There are tons of examples of this situation where the intersection is not an all-way stop, which is really dangerous.

What intersection is an all-way stop?  None of the ones you quoted are all-way stops.

This one (but they forgot to install all-way plaques)
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7747187,-118.2389926,3a,75y,270.51h,89.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sU1U0AiMhitQnlZheUhKc-A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

[Jet380]

More from the rail yard in Wichita...

Stop sign on a 7-track crossing

Stop sign on a 3-track crossing

Is there any way to address the safety of this without signalizing the intersection?

One option would be to have stop signs on all approaches except for the railway crossing, as is sometimes done at entries to car parks. That will allow free-flowing movement off the crossing, but it could cause its own safety issues.

Alternatively you could ban all movements from the crossing except a right turn, to at least reduce the time drivers spend waiting on the tracks.

Otherwise you would be looking at wholesale changes to the road layout, to reassign priority or to create extra queuing space between the crossing and the intersection. But by this point, full signalisation would be cheap by comparison!

For the Long Beach example at least, the crossing is at the entry to the port terminal and I would assume all rail movements would be done slowly and under supervision. So, in practice, there should be ample time for a vehicle to clear the crossing before the train arrives.

[kphoger]

The Wichita examples I posted are in or near the freight yard, which is directly parallel to Broadway (old US-81).  Putting stop signs on Broadway would definitely NOT be a solution here.

[thenetwork]

There used to be a huge multi-track crossing on Westwood Avenue in Toledo OH.  Sometime in the last few decades, they closed the street off from either side the:

Toledo
Ohio
https://maps.app.goo.gl/KxCdgz6ThwEpoeBu9

[kphoger]

There used to be a huge multi-track crossing on Westwood Avenue in Toledo OH.  Sometime in the last few decades, they closed the street off from either side the:

Toledo
Ohio
https://maps.app.goo.gl/KxCdgz6ThwEpoeBu9

Link just goes to a map of the entire city of Toledo.