When did the Latino Community trade trumpets for accordians?

[roadman65]

I noticed now among the Latino community, as I work as a toll collector in Florida that has a high Hispanic population, is now listening to Polka music over the traditional horn music that has been popular with them for ages.

Every car that pulls up has polka music playing, but not like the German and Polish music on their radios, but from Spanish artists doing the Polka and if its on radio its being played by Spanish speaking DJs.

When did this shift occur?

[Max Rockatansky]

Nobody in my Wife's family (my wife is Hispanic) is listening to Polka music, that must be a Florida thing?  I haven't heard Polka music in general since Michigan in the late 1990s. 

[kevinb1994]

I noticed now among the Latino community, as I work as a toll collector in Florida that has a high Hispanic population, is now listening to Polka music over the traditional horn music that has been popular with them for ages.

Every car that pulls up has polka music playing, but not like the German and Polish music on their radios, but from Spanish artists doing the Polka and if its on radio its being played by Spanish speaking DJs.

When did this shift occur?

The answer's in the question.

[formulanone]

A quick google search (i.e. I have no idea) shows that the accordion seemed to come from Bohemian immigrants in Texas, and there must have been a natural flow to Northern Mexican music. Couple that with how music blends/crosses-over as it becomes more popular, and it makes a bit more sense. It also seems that it's popular in zydeco music, so it was probably influenced in multiple ways, since they're not that distant.

https://www.liveabout.com/mexican-popular-music-tejano-norteno-banda-2141529

[SectorZ]

That must be some Florida thing, because I don't hear that emanating from cars driven by Latin Americans in my area. Same generic stuff or hip hop, no "Extraño" Al Yankovic around me...

[kphoger]

You're most likely hearing a different musical genre than you used to hear.  Mexican music that features accordions is most likely norteño music, which is especially popular in northern Mexico and has become popular among Mexican-Americans as well.  Its roots go back to the 1800s, so it's not exactly a new sound.  Not only did the upper class in Mexico back then enjoy European-style music, but there was a sizable German immigration to northern Mexico (I've personally seen rural Mennonite communities in both Chihuahua and Coahuila), which influenced the music of the area.

Mexican music that uses brass instruments like the trumpet include mariachi and banda music.  The former isn't especially popular these days, and the latter is more of a thing in central and southern Mexico.

So I'm guessing that either (1) the immigrant population in your area is becoming more northern-Mexican-dominant than it used to be, or else (2) you're simply noticing that norteño music is becoming increasingly popular among Mexican-Americans in general, no matter what region of Mexico their family has its roots in.

[In_Correct]

It most certainly is not "Just In Florida".

I listened to popular songs such as Macarena (the 1993 version) and Feliz Navidad from 1970.

But the radio stations, for many decades, have been playing the same Accordion Polka Corizon music all the time.

This is simply be cause they are very selective about what is played on the radio.

They do have other genres such as Classical Guitar. Asturias ... my .mp3 file says it is Fernando Gonzalez Isaac Albeniz Austurias.

There is also the Mariachi, Banda, Jazz Music, Salsa Music, and Genres resembling and spanning Funk, Hip Hop, Rhythm & Blues, Rap, and Soul ... none of these genres are on the radio, but are still very popular in areas such as New Jersey.

[mgk920]

My understanding is that the accordion came from German immigrants who settled in southern Texas in the late 19th century, the same Germans who were settling in many other places in the USA, such as here in Wisconsin, at that time.  The local Latino crowd heard the new immigrants' traditional music, liked it and adapted it as part of their own - thus the inclusion of the accordion and other polka sounds in Latino music is a 100% American (as in 'USA') thing.

Mike

[SEWIGuy]

You're most likely hearing a different musical genre than you used to hear.  Mexican music that features accordions is most likely norteño music, which is especially popular in northern Mexico and has become popular among Mexican-Americans as well.  Its roots go back to the 1800s, so it's not exactly a new sound.  Not only did the upper class in Mexico back then enjoy European-style music, but there was a sizable German immigration to northern Mexico (I've personally seen rural Mennonite communities in both Chihuahua and Coahuila), which influenced the music of the area.

Mexican music that uses brass instruments like the trumpet include mariachi and banda music.  The former isn't especially popular these days, and the latter is more of a thing in central and southern Mexico.

So I'm guessing that either (1) the immigrant population in your area is becoming more northern-Mexican-dominant than it used to be, or else (2) you're simply noticing that norteño music is becoming increasingly popular among Mexican-Americans in general, no matter what region of Mexico their family has its roots in.

Are you saying that Latinos aren't a singular group, but a mix of of national backgrounds that have differing musical traditions that blend together over time?  Shocker.

[michravera]

I noticed now among the Latino community, as I work as a toll collector in Florida that has a high Hispanic population, is now listening to Polka music over the traditional horn music that has been popular with them for ages.

Every car that pulls up has polka music playing, but not like the German and Polish music on their radios, but from Spanish artists doing the Polka and if its on radio its being played by Spanish speaking DJs.

When did this shift occur?

It's not polka. It's Tejana. It's been popular in California at least since the 1980s. I suspect that it has been popular further east (like Texas and New Mexico) since well before that. Maybe it's just now made it to Florida, but I doubt it (Maybe you just weren't paying attention). Remember that a girl named "Selena" (about whom a movie was made starting JLo) was the first FEMALE star, but men have been at it for quite a while. I am pretty sure that my friends' parents listened to Tejana music when I was growing up in Sacramento in the 1960s.

The horn music with which you are more familiar has been around for a longer time, but I believe that it is more Mexican.

[kphoger]

Are you saying that Latinos aren't a singular group, but a mix of of national backgrounds that have differing musical traditions that blend together over time?  Shocker.

No, no, I'd never say something like that!   

What's funny to me is that, from my perspective, that accordion and sousaphone sound is the quintessential Mexican music sound.  I grew up the latter half of my childhood in western Kansas, and NPR played norteño music on Saturday afternoons–I assume because the Mexican immigrant population in southwestern Kansas favored that style.  In junior high and high school, my dad and I went on several camping trips to Big Bend NP, and we crossed the border by rowboat into Mexico (back when you could still do that) each time;  there was invariably someone blasting norteño music from his car speakers somewhere in the village.  Since 2006, I've taken a trip to Mexico twelve times, and only one of those trips was to states that don't border the USA.

For me, the only times I've really heard any other genres of Mexican music being played have been (1) in less-than-authentic Mexican restaurants here in the USA and (2) when a tour bus driver in Nayarit popped in a cassette tape of Mexican oldies back in the late 1990s.

My understanding is that the accordion came from German immigrants who settled in southern Texas in the late 19th century, the same Germans who were settling in many other places in the USA, such as here in Wisconsin, at that time.  The local Latino crowd heard the new immigrants' traditional music, liked it and adapted it as part of their own - thus the inclusion of the accordion and other polka sounds in Latino music is a 100% American (as in 'USA') thing.

It's not polka. It's Tejana. It's been popular in California at least since the 1980s.

The horn music with which you are more familiar has been around for a longer time, but I believe that it is more Mexican.

Tejano music derived from norteño music but added other instrumentation more commonly found in the USA.  As such, the presence of accordions in both genres is not a '100% American' thing.  Their presence in norteño music is, as I already explained, due to a combination of the popularity of European musical styles and the music of German immigrants in northern Mexico.  Their presence in tejano music was born out of that heritage and then also reinforced by the music of German and Polish immigrants in the southwestern USA.

[index]

When I first read the title of this post I assumed it was talking about interchanges for some reason, which made me very confused. I had some thought in my head about Latin American countries refusing to use trumpet interchanges.

[In_Correct]

When I first read the title of this post I assumed it was talking about interchanges for some reason, which made me very confused. I had some thought in my head about Latin American countries refusing to use trumpet interchanges.

Perhaps They Like Accordion Interchanges Instead.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/americas+interchange+el+paso+texas/@31.7012805,-106.2857042,16z?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/search/americas+interchange+el+paso+texas/@31.7012805,-106.2857042,867m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

[kphoger]

Perhaps They Like Accordion Interchanges Instead.

or PTLAII, for short

[In_Correct]

Perhaps They Like Accordion Interchanges Instead.

or PTLAII, for short

El P'tlaii.

[Desert Man]

The variety of Latinx and Hispanic peoples in the Americas including the USA: Mexican-Americans from Chicanos to recent immigrants-many are indigenous peoples from southern states Oaxaca and Chiapas, also Californios in CA to Hispanos in CO to NuevoMexicanos in NM to Tejanos in TX to Nortenos in AZ. Then you have Puerto Ricans and Nuyoricans in NYC and surrounding states in the Northeast. And Cuban exiles among Dominicans, Central and South Americans, Brazilians, Portuguese and Spaniards in FL, esp Miami (Little Havana and Calle Ocho) and Tampa (Ybor City and "Spanish" Town). There will be difficult kinds of music influenced by their local and regional cultures, from indigenous American to African Caribbean to European (Spain and otherwise). Latinx and Hispanic-American culture is found in all 50 states and territories from Chicago (in the top 5 most Latinx cities along with NYC, Miami, San Antonio in Texas and Los Angeles) to WA state (high concentrations of Mexicans in Yakima) to Hawaiian islands (historic Puerto Rican migration along with Euro-Latin relatives, the Portuguese).