Toll roads with premium toll lanes: do any exist?

Started by MaxConcrete, December 04, 2016, 01:15:15 PM

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MaxConcrete

I'm looking to find out if there exists a toll road where one or more lanes is a premium lane with higher tolls to provide faster service during traffic conditions.

Of course this type of premium lanes is called managed lanes on freeways with regular (untolled) lanes. But I don't know of any toll roads which have managed lanes in addition to the traditional tolled lanes. I'm also interested if any such premium lanes exist on bridges, especially in the NYC area.

I'm mainly interested in the United States, but international instances are also of interest. Thanks for any info.
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Brandon

We do not have any in Illinois.  You pay either the I-Pass (EZ Pass) rate or the cash rate (2x the I-Pass rate) on the ISTHA tollways, or the rate on the Chicago Skyway.
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I don't know of any, but I do recall reading about a proposal to construct HO/T lanes on a portion of the Homestead Extension of Florida's Turnpike. I don't know anything about the status of that proposal. I believe it was to be located to the south of the junction with I-75, which would make sense in terms of connecting to the network of other HO/T lanes on I-595 and on I-75 south of its interchange with I-595 (the latter were not yet open on my most recent trip to the area this past July).

If I find the article I saw, I'll edit this post.

Edited to add:
–This isn't the article I saw, but it indicates they are indeed building express lanes: http://www.floridasturnpike.com/icpp/projects.html

–I think this one is the article I saw in the Herald. It indicates the HEFT lanes are to be similar in operation to the existing ones on I-95: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article2198345.html
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I think the New Jersey Turnpike express lanes are considered "premium".
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Quote from: epzik8 on December 04, 2016, 05:54:57 PM
I think the New Jersey Turnpike express lanes are considered "premium".

Which express lanes?

cpzilliacus

Quote from: epzik8 on December 04, 2016, 05:54:57 PM
I think the New Jersey Turnpike express lanes are considered "premium".

No.  Only exception to that are the Turnpike's HOV (HOV-3) lanes from Exits 11 to 14 in the outer roadways.  Northbound 6 AM to 9 AM; southbound 4 PM to 7 PM.
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Quote from: MaxConcrete on December 04, 2016, 01:15:15 PM
I'm looking to find out if there exists a toll road where one or more lanes is a premium lane with higher tolls to provide faster service during traffic conditions.

On a technicality, we could say that the I-95 Express Toll Lanes (ETLs) in Baltimore County, Maryland qualify.   

The adjacent parallel conventional lanes are maintained by the  Maryland Transportation Authority  (the state's toll road and toll crossing agency), but there is no toll charged at the point where the ETLs are parallel to the conventional lanes (there is a toll point northbound much further north, well after the ETLs end (the northern terminus is at MD-43) and there is a toll point in both directions south of the ETLs at the Fort McHenry Tunnel (south of the southern ETL terminus at I-895)).
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UCFKnights

Quote from: 1995hoo on December 04, 2016, 04:10:30 PM
I don't know of any, but I do recall reading about a proposal to construct HO/T lanes on a portion of the Homestead Extension of Florida's Turnpike. I don't know anything about the status of that proposal. I believe it was to be located to the south of the junction with I-75, which would make sense in terms of connecting to the network of other HO/T lanes on I-595 and on I-75 south of its interchange with I-595 (the latter were not yet open on my most recent trip to the area this past July).

If I find the article I saw, I'll edit this post.

Edited to add:
–This isn't the article I saw, but it indicates they are indeed building express lanes: http://www.floridasturnpike.com/icpp/projects.html

–I think this one is the article I saw in the Herald. It indicates the HEFT lanes are to be similar in operation to the existing ones on I-95: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article2198345.html
Yup, I believe they are also under construction in Orlando on 528 west of the airport. They were proposed and scheduled to go to bidding for the Florida's Turnpike's portion of 417 but after backlash, offering to buy the road by CFX, and public outcry, they cancelled the expansion project entirely. It seems the Florida's Turnpike does not wish to expand any further roads without the tolls within a toll.

NE2

Quote from: UCFKnights on December 05, 2016, 12:18:31 AM
Yup, I believe they are also under construction in Orlando on 528 west of the airport.
Which, like I-95 near Baltimore, is a free portion of a toll road.
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UCFKnights

Quote from: NE2 on December 05, 2016, 01:11:16 AM
Quote from: UCFKnights on December 05, 2016, 12:18:31 AM
Yup, I believe they are also under construction in Orlando on 528 west of the airport.
Which, like I-95 near Baltimore, is a free portion of a toll road.
There is a mainline toll plaza in the express lane area.

Its also hard to call it a free area of the road. While you can traverse exits 1-3 without paying a toll, based on the setup of the mainline tolls, they are clearly charging $1 to traverse this 4-5 mile area. That $1 doesn't cover the tolls prior to the plaza as there was the airport plaza (recently removed) or ramp tolls (more added to replace the plaza) right behind it with 2 plazas in a row. Its just an unfair layout of the toll road switching tolling authorities between state and metro combined with the need for tight, busy exits making ramp tolls difficult. Just because its possible to make some free movements in an area doesn't make it a free portion of the road. When AET comes here, I'm sure the free movements will be stopped.

NE2

Quote from: UCFKnights on December 05, 2016, 06:41:00 AM
There is a mainline toll plaza in the express lane area.
Yes, but you won't be able to use the express lanes there unless you bypass the entire free segment.

They could have easily added ramp tolls when they built those interchanges decades ago. But they decided not to and left a free section from I-4 to OBT. This is a significant stretch of road, connecting I-4 to Florida's Turnpike and the Florida Mall.
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Pink Jazz

PR-22 in Puerto Rico has dynamic express toll lanes between the Toa Baja and Buchanan toll plazas.

Rick Powell

One of the options on the I-290 Eisenhower Expressway project study in Cook County is a premium toll/HOV "HOT" lane with value pricing, with the remainder being regular toll lanes. It is not the preferred alternative, however.



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