Notes from a 1966 LA Thomas Brothers

[cahwyguy]

Just came into possession of a 1966 LA Thomas Bros. (no, I can't scan it -- it is book bound, not spiral). Of most interest is the fact that it shows Route 2 continuing from its current freeway terminus to US 101 (as under construction or a planned routing) near Melrose. It doesn't show Route 64, nor does it show Route 170 as the Laurel Canyon. The 210 is still a planned routing.

Related to our discussion of Route 26: It doesn't show a number on the Pomona. It shows the 210 continuing down to the Pomona along what is now the 57 (not to the 10)... as well as continuing E parallel to Rte 30 into San Bernardino Cty., and US 60 along Holt, and 71 along Garey. Downtown, it shows the San Bernardino as the 60, the 101 cosigned through the downtown slot as the 105, and no number on the Pomona. The 60 goes down Holt to 5th, and then continues across 5th and Mission.

It also shows Route 22 continuing W around Anaheim St to a point W of the Harbor Freeway (which fits with my notes on my pages, as it was originally supposed to go that far, but that is not corroborated with the route definition)

It shows the Pacific Coast Freeway starting in Malibu around Trancas Cyn, running about a mile inland to Corral Canyon  and PCH.

It is in general in good shape, although pgs 31-51 have separated from the binding, so I have to be careful.

[Concrete Bob]

What I like about those Thomas Guides from the 1960s is that some of the proposed proposed freeways also include the proposed interchange ramps/configurations between the freeways as dotted lines.  I am guessing the Thomas Guide in your possession only showed freeway routes that were officially adopted by the State of California.  The specific routing for the Laurel Canyon Freeway (SR 170) was never adopted south of US 101 (La Cienega Boulevard in the Baldwin Hills, notwithstanding).  I am uncertain if the State of California actually adopted the route for the Malibu-Whitnall Freeway (SR 64).     

[cahwyguy]

What I like about those Thomas Guides from the 1960s is that some of the proposed proposed freeways also include the proposed interchange ramps/configurations between the freeways as dotted lines.  I am guessing the Thomas Guide in your possession only showed freeway routes that were officially adopted by the State of California.  The specific routing for the Laurel Canyon Freeway (SR 170) was never adopted south of US 101 (La Cienega Boulevard in the Baldwin Hills, notwithstanding).  I am uncertain if the State of California actually adopted the route for the Malibu-Whitnall Freeway (SR 64).     

I have a 1975 Thomas that does show the Whitnall, so it might just not have had a proposed routing yet. For the Glendale, it did show an interchange at Sunset, and then the interchange at the 101.

[Concrete Bob]

In the Thomas Guide I reviewed, the 101/2 interchange was a sort of half-stack interchange with these ramps:

West 2 to 101 North
101 North to 2 West
East 2 to 101 South
101 West to 2 East

Presumably, the movements from 2 East to 101 North and 101 South to 2 West would have been accomplished through the never-adopted 258 freeway, which would have run north-south on or near Western Avenue. 

The Thomas Guide I reviewed had no other planned ramp configurations out to the Beverly Hills Freeway's west termination point at 405.  The rest of the proposed path was shown as a dotted line noted as a "PROP FWY."  The freeway plans for the region were certainly ambitious.     

[sparker]

In the Thomas Guide I reviewed, the 101/2 interchange was a sort of half-stack interchange with these ramps:

West 2 to 101 North
101 North to 2 West
East 2 to 101 South
101 West to 2 East

Presumably, the movements from 2 East to 101 North and 101 South to 2 West would have been accomplished through the never-adopted 258 freeway, which would have run north-south on or near Western Avenue. 

The Thomas Guide I reviewed had no other planned ramp configurations out to the Beverly Hills Freeway's west termination point at 405.  The rest of the proposed path was shown as a dotted line noted as a "PROP FWY."  The freeway plans for the region were certainly ambitious.     

There's always been a split between the carriageways of the US 101/Hollywood Freeway near Melrose to accommodate the interchange with the then-proposed CA 2 freeway ("Glendale" to the east, "Beverly Hills" to the west).  It probably would have resembled the Santa Ana/Long Beach freeway interchange in Commerce, with multiple LH exits and entrances.