Crash prone 'modern roundabouts'

[kalvado]

I'd personally much rather someone doing three times the speed limit plow into a rock than fifteen people.

What if the person is a bus driver carrying 15 people?

If a bus driver carrying fifteen people plows into fifteen people instead of a rock, then that would be a total of thirty.  So, still better.

Social darwinism is, of course, not without merit h but is generally considered out of fashion.
In the case at hand, if more socially acceptable concepts are to be applied, 3 casualties  about $20 million - should be enough to fire a few people from DOT, hire some real engineers - even with recent $100k surcharge for H1Bs -  and rebuild approaches and the intersection from scratch using proper design. Moreso potential 15 people crash.

[tradephoric]

If a bus driver carrying fifteen people plows into fifteen people instead of a rock, then that would be a total of thirty.  So, still better.

A crash resulting in 15 deaths at a roundabout is better than 30 deaths.  Valid point.

[Scott5114]

I think it would be a little silly for someone to advocate for the removal of bridge dolphins because ships are damaged after hitting them.

[kphoger]

I think it would be a little silly for someone to advocate for the removal of bridge dolphins because ships are damaged after hitting them.

In this case, are the decorative rocks protecting a valuable statue or something?  I'm confused by the analogy.

[kalvado]

I think it would be a little silly for someone to advocate for the removal of bridge dolphins because ships are damaged after hitting them.

You seem to be confused by "remove guardrails and jersey barriers" thread

[Scott5114]

I think it would be a little silly for someone to advocate for the removal of bridge dolphins because ships are damaged after hitting them.

In this case, are the decorative rocks protecting a valuable statue or something?  I'm confused by the analogy.

It's protecting the town of Silver Springs.

[jakeroot]

I think it would be a little silly for someone to advocate for the removal of bridge dolphins because ships are damaged after hitting them.

In this case, are the decorative rocks protecting a valuable statue or something?  I'm confused by the analogy.

It's protecting the town of Silver Springs.

Jokes aside, I assume the rocks are to protect cars on one side of the roundabout from cars on the other side of the roundabout.

That said, we have gone through how many guardrail design eras...yet giant boulders are perfectly fine for roundabout central islands? Perhaps we could invent a deflective roundabout central island design?

[kalvado]

I think it would be a little silly for someone to advocate for the removal of bridge dolphins because ships are damaged after hitting them.

In this case, are the decorative rocks protecting a valuable statue or something?  I'm confused by the analogy.

It's protecting the town of Silver Springs.

Jokes aside, I assume the rocks are to protect cars on one side of the roundabout from cars on the other side of the roundabout.

That said, we have gone through how many guardrail design eras...yet giant boulders are perfectly fine for roundabout central islands? Perhaps we could invent a deflective roundabout central island design?

Its a wild west design. Next thing to come is red light cameras paired with machine guns. Anything to protect the city!

[tradephoric]

Car smashed in high speed roundabout crash
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cwydzg0235do

[kphoger]

Car smashed in high speed roundabout crash
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cwydzg0235do

Yes, technically that was a roundabout (though not a "modern roundabout" as the thread title says).  But he was going a zillion miles an hour, ran a red light, and T-boned cross-traffic.  How would that have been any better if it weren't a roundabout?